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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
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Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
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October 08, 2021, 07:38:45 PM
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It was a trap, SMB does not show their toughness in this game, they didn't even try to come back as the whole game ended up a well domination by the TNT.

We were not expecting that it's a trap, SMB did a great job on a comeback win in game 2 but they seem playing tired in game 3. Anyway, we can't change what happen but SMB still has game 4 to try to even the series and for sure they will make sure they will win and will not play catch-up game as they would usually lose on that scenario.

TNT played well, there's no question about that, and I agree with you, SMB seems tired the role players did not contribute that much. Still have another game to compete. Maybe they will try harder to beat TNT's system. Coach Leo needs to work with each player to be more competitive and not to allow TNT's stars to just keep taking shots and have a higher confidence. SMB needs to work more with good defense and a good counter with every conversion from TNT players. A long way for this series and they need to keep working hard if they want to win.

Though TNT is really an improved team, William's presence is now bringing big impact, together with Erram, Rosario and Poguy coach Chot made this team more solid and very competitive.

If SMB's best player could not deliver an MVP  contribution, SMB will likely lose in the series. We need to see more from June Mar Fajardo in game 4, it's an important game as they are behind and they need to even the series to have a chance to win it. Maybe in game 4, I will try to put a bet on SMB 1st half win, I like to see them playing harder and win the first half again.

JMF has returned from an injury, plus his mother died, so he is not 100% yet. if the Beermen are really a good team, this is the time to show some support to JMF and help the team to win so they could give this as a gift to JMF. SMB is still not out in the series, TNT still has to win 2 more games which looks easy now but once SMB found the best strategy, the advantage might be on them.

He has to move on, he is a professional and he should not bring that at work. 

JMF has been consistent as an MVP during the All Filipino cup prior to the pandemic is not that effective this time, though the stat is still good his impact on the floor is not like before already. He can score and grab rebounds because of his height, but his production really drops and that affected the play of the SMB as they usually rely on JMF to generate points in the paint, they live on it, now they'll die on it.

As we can also notice, Castro does not force himself to score anymore, he is lucky to have been surrounded by a lot of guys who can spread the floor and they are getting contributions from anyone within the team.

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October 08, 2021, 08:52:46 PM
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He has to move on, he is a professional and he should not bring that at work. 

JMF has been consistent as an MVP during the All Filipino cup prior to the pandemic is not that effective this time, though the stat is still good his impact on the floor is not like before already. He can score and grab rebounds because of his height, but his production really drops and that affected the play of the SMB as they usually rely on JMF to generate points in the paint, they live on it, now they'll die on it.

As we can also notice, Castro does not force himself to score anymore, he is lucky to have been surrounded by a lot of guys who can spread the floor and they are getting contributions from anyone within the team.

Erram even undersize but the determination is there. With the help of Rosario, Fajardo really having a hard time making a good lift for SMB, we can't really say what's affecting Fajardos production,

either his injuries or the kind of system Chot Reyes brings to his shoulder, but the key factors here are the productions of the whole team. Even Fajardo and Romeo do the best that they can,

without additional help from their teammates, more likely they will lose this series.

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October 08, 2021, 11:47:43 PM
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JMF has returned from an injury, plus his mother died, so he is not 100% yet. if the Beermen are really a good team, this is the time to show some support to JMF and help the team to win so they could give this as a gift to JMF. SMB is still not out in the series, TNT still has to win 2 more games which looks easy now but once SMB found the best strategy, the advantage might be on them.

It's discrediting JMF if you still insist that he's not 100% because of that reason. Let's also looked at how good TNT is. Gives credit to their hard work. If TNT will win on the series, there should not be a reason that JMF is not at 100%. Not all the times that SMB will be the team to beat in the league and SMB fans should not be blinded by that.
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October 09, 2021, 02:37:08 AM
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JMF has returned from an injury, plus his mother died, so he is not 100% yet. if the Beermen are really a good team, this is the time to show some support to JMF and help the team to win so they could give this as a gift to JMF. SMB is still not out in the series, TNT still has to win 2 more games which looks easy now but once SMB found the best strategy, the advantage might be on them.

It's discrediting JMF if you still insist that he's not 100% because of that reason. Let's also looked at how good TNT is. Gives credit to their hard work. If TNT will win on the series, there should not be a reason that JMF is not at 100%. Not all the times that SMB will be the team to beat in the league and SMB fans should not be blinded by that.

It's more on how the coach and players design the gameplay.

As of this moment, it's on the side of TNT they really made good adjustment to identify what's their advantage
against SMB. There're no excuses or anything, Lets accept the fact that the domination of Fajardo is no longer that much.
Kudos to the hard work of TNT's defense, they made it harder for SMB as to how we saw that from this
current series.

Glad we really enjoy this semi-finals between two heavy favorite teams from the league.
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October 09, 2021, 05:42:11 AM
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JMF has returned from an injury, plus his mother died, so he is not 100% yet. if the Beermen are really a good team, this is the time to show some support to JMF and help the team to win so they could give this as a gift to JMF. SMB is still not out in the series, TNT still has to win 2 more games which looks easy now but once SMB found the best strategy, the advantage might be on them.

It's discrediting JMF if you still insist that he's not 100% because of that reason. Let's also looked at how good TNT is. Gives credit to their hard work. If TNT will win on the series, there should not be a reason that JMF is not at 100%. Not all the times that SMB will be the team to beat in the league and SMB fans should not be blinded by that.

It's more on how the coach and players design the gameplay.

As of this moment, it's on the side of TNT they really made good adjustment to identify what's their advantage
against SMB. There're no excuses or anything, Lets accept the fact that the domination of Fajardo is no longer that much.
Kudos to the hard work of TNT's defense, they made it harder for SMB as to how we saw that from this
current series.

Glad we really enjoy this semi-finals between two heavy favorite teams from the league.

This is more like a Finals series, but I'm glad that TNT has really improved now, unlike in the past that SMB always dominates them. Coach Chot Reyes really help a lot for the team, maybe this season is not for the SMB teams, it's for the Pangilinan teams. Also, if TNT will advance, I guess they will be the favorites against Magnolia, but I believe the series would be better as it could reach game 7.
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October 09, 2021, 06:59:37 AM
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JMF has returned from an injury, plus his mother died, so he is not 100% yet. if the Beermen are really a good team, this is the time to show some support to JMF and help the team to win so they could give this as a gift to JMF. SMB is still not out in the series, TNT still has to win 2 more games which looks easy now but once SMB found the best strategy, the advantage might be on them.

It's discrediting JMF if you still insist that he's not 100% because of that reason. Let's also looked at how good TNT is. Gives credit to their hard work. If TNT will win on the series, there should not be a reason that JMF is not at 100%. Not all the times that SMB will be the team to beat in the league and SMB fans should not be blinded by that.

It's more on how the coach and players design the gameplay.

As of this moment, it's on the side of TNT they really made good adjustment to identify what's their advantage
against SMB. There're no excuses or anything, Lets accept the fact that the domination of Fajardo is no longer that much.
Kudos to the hard work of TNT's defense, they made it harder for SMB as to how we saw that from this
current series.

Glad we really enjoy this semi-finals between two heavy favorite teams from the league.

This is more like a Finals series, but I'm glad that TNT has really improved now, unlike in the past that SMB always dominates them. Coach Chot Reyes really help a lot for the team, maybe this season is not for the SMB teams, it's for the Pangilinan teams. Also, if TNT will advance, I guess they will be the favorites against Magnolia, but I believe the series would be better as it could reach game 7.

SMB has come back before when they are down 3-1 and won the NBA Finals, so please don't think that the series is already over, TNT maybe leading by 1 win but SMB could even the series and will make this series very unpredictable to judge. It's also a battle of adjustment and just like what the Meralco did, SMB could also adjust and win the next game.

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October 09, 2021, 07:36:45 AM
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It's also a battle of adjustment and just like what the Meralco did, SMB could also adjust and win the next game.

Yes it is, and these two coaches are veterans, they have already won championships in the past, so they know what they are doing and they will not panic. I'm guessing, in game 4 I think SMB will not anymore the favorites because of what happened in game 3, so if we ever think of backing them, we should bet early.

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October 09, 2021, 09:18:06 AM
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SMB has come back before when they are down 3-1 and won the NBA Finals, so please don't think that the series is already over, TNT maybe leading by 1 win but SMB could even the series and will make this series very unpredictable to judge. It's also a battle of adjustment and just like what the Meralco did, SMB could also adjust and win the next game.

PBA finals mate. Cheesy

Adjustment is already not an issue on that series. They already adjust. It's just a battle of who will take the last laugh. That time when SMB overcome a 1-3 deficit in the Finals against Alaska, they are all in prime and they rely on JMF. It should already be a 3-0 win for TNT now but they just got comfortable in Game 2. If SMB will do some necessary push, TNT will also do the same.
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October 09, 2021, 10:01:52 AM
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JMF has returned from an injury, plus his mother died, so he is not 100% yet. if the Beermen are really a good team, this is the time to show some support to JMF and help the team to win so they could give this as a gift to JMF. SMB is still not out in the series, TNT still has to win 2 more games which looks easy now but once SMB found the best strategy, the advantage might be on them.
There are 2 scenarios with this.
1. JMF has came back from a serious injury that he had years ago. There is this thing on his mind that "what if it will happen again" thing that might affect his performance. I already said this just before this conference happens.
2. TNT knows how to stop him. That's all.

With the 2 that I said, the second one is what is happening right now. TNT knows how to stop him. If you watched those 3 games, you will see that Erram is dominating him inside the paint. Erram is more athletic and faster than him and he can defend JMF too not 1v1 but at least the team can stop him. We can always say that Fajardo isn't at his 100% performance after his injury but at least, give some credits to the bigs of TNT because they can stop him inside. Smiley

I don't know if many will agree with me but I think TNT has all the tools in stopping SMB. They can defend SMB's shooters well and they are one of the best defensive teams this conference. At the same time, they can stop Fajardo and Tautuaa too when SMB will rely on inside points. The bigs of TNT is strong enough to defend these 2 bigs of SMB. I'm an SMB fan but right now, it seems that they are having a hard time defeating this TNT team.

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October 09, 2021, 10:51:52 AM
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I don't know if many will agree with me but I think TNT has all the tools in stopping SMB. They can defend SMB's shooters well and they are one of the best defensive teams this conference. At the same time, they can stop Fajardo and Tautuaa too when SMB will rely on inside points. The bigs of TNT is strong enough to defend these 2 bigs of SMB. I'm an SMB fan but right now, it seems that they are having a hard time defeating this TNT team.

They have the tools on beating not just SMB but all teams in the league. SMB just becomes a favorite because of their playoffs winning history and have that "never say die" motto 2nd to BGSM but people are not realizing that SMB is not the strong team before even they have the best point guards in the league in the name of Terrence Romeo and CJ Perez.

If TNT will lose on this series. It's a disappointment and they are fit to call a choked team. I'm with TNT here to win the series.
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October 09, 2021, 11:56:30 AM
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It's also a battle of adjustment and just like what the Meralco did, SMB could also adjust and win the next game.

Yes it is, and these two coaches are veterans, they have already won championships in the past, so they know what they are doing and they will not panic. I'm guessing, in game 4 I think SMB will not anymore the favorites because of what happened in game 3, so if we ever think of backing them, we should bet early.

Coach Chot as a veteran and reputable coach is one of the reasons why TNT is strong. His presence on the bench makes his players motivated that they need to contribute more as they are handled by the former Gilas coach for a long. Finishing a season with only 1 loss is already a big and hard achievement. In this playoff match against SMB, they managed to take big leads against this team which is unusual in the past playoffs of the All-Filipino Cup conference.

Big game tomorrow. If SMB will be downed by 3-1, I have never seen them beating TNT 3 times in a row.

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October 09, 2021, 11:58:55 AM
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I don't know if many will agree with me but I think TNT has all the tools in stopping SMB. They can defend SMB's shooters well and they are one of the best defensive teams this conference. At the same time, they can stop Fajardo and Tautuaa too when SMB will rely on inside points. The bigs of TNT is strong enough to defend these 2 bigs of SMB. I'm an SMB fan but right now, it seems that they are having a hard time defeating this TNT team.

They have the tools on beating not just SMB but all teams in the league. SMB just becomes a favorite because of their playoffs winning history and have that "never say die" motto 2nd to BGSM but people are not realizing that SMB is not the strong team before even they have the best point guards in the league in the name of Terrence Romeo and CJ Perez.

If TNT will lose on this series. It's a disappointment and they are fit to call a choked team. I'm with TNT here to win the series.

Fajardo is supposed to dominate, but he is not dominating now so he is not a big threat anymore, he is not fast yet and the TNT bigs can easily double him. John Paul Erram has been consistently scoring against Fajardo, I think he had an average of 20 points in the last 2 games, which shows that the defense of Fajardo is weak and he is now a liability to the team. (not totally)

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October 09, 2021, 01:09:49 PM
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Betting odds are out already, take it early as it might move tomorrow.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/matches

TNT KaTropa - 1.80
San Miguel Beermen - 1.98

Magnolia Hotshots - 1.60
Meralco Bolts - 2.30

Magnolia + SMB parlay = 3.168 (good odds for me as Magnolia will be a sure win in game 4)

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October 09, 2021, 03:08:02 PM
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Betting odds are out already, take it early as it might move tomorrow.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/matches

TNT KaTropa - 1.80
San Miguel Beermen - 1.98

Magnolia Hotshots - 1.60
Meralco Bolts - 2.30

Magnolia + SMB parlay = 3.168 (good odds for me as Magnolia will be a sure win in game 4)

Looks very interesting parlay Kabayan, I also see that possibilities. SMB will do their best to tie this series while Magnolia will not let Bolts to regain the momentum and tie the series. Though it's only my opinion, Cojuangco group will bounce from that losses with their both franchise. Though right now I don't have any balance from my stake account,  Grin

Wish you GoodLuck! that parlay is sweet if you managed to win both games. Wink

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October 09, 2021, 08:39:31 PM
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Betting odds are out already, take it early as it might move tomorrow.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/matches

TNT KaTropa - 1.80
San Miguel Beermen - 1.98

Magnolia Hotshots - 1.60
Meralco Bolts - 2.30

Magnolia + SMB parlay = 3.168 (good odds for me as Magnolia will be a sure win in game 4)

Looks very interesting parlay Kabayan, I also see that possibilities. SMB will do their best to tie this series while Magnolia will not let Bolts to regain the momentum and tie the series. Though it's only my opinion, Cojuangco group will bounce from that losses with their both franchise. Though right now I don't have any balance from my stake account,  Grin

Wish you GoodLuck! that parlay is sweet if you managed to win both games. Wink

Cojuangco group already has one team heading to the Finals, and that is the Magnolia as they are dominating the Bolts although they loss in game 3. No Almazan yet I guess, so Magnolia might make an adjustment again, and if refs are not against Magnolia tonight, they can easily beat the undermanned Meralco Bolts.

SMB vs TNT, I have doubt on this now, it's probably TNT will advance, so I don't want to get hype with what the fans are thinking now.



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October 09, 2021, 09:00:32 PM
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Betting odds are out already, take it early as it might move tomorrow.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/matches

TNT KaTropa - 1.80
San Miguel Beermen - 1.98

Magnolia Hotshots - 1.60
Meralco Bolts - 2.30

Magnolia + SMB parlay = 3.168 (good odds for me as Magnolia will be a sure win in game 4)

Looks very interesting parlay Kabayan, I also see that possibilities. SMB will do their best to tie this series while Magnolia will not let Bolts to regain the momentum and tie the series. Though it's only my opinion, Cojuangco group will bounce from that losses with their both franchise. Though right now I don't have any balance from my stake account,  Grin

Wish you GoodLuck! that parlay is sweet if you managed to win both games. Wink

Cojuangco group already has one team heading to the Finals, and that is the Magnolia as they are dominating the Bolts although they loss in game 3. No Almazan yet I guess, so Magnolia might make an adjustment again, and if refs are not against Magnolia tonight, they can easily beat the undermanned Meralco Bolts.
With the looks of it, Magnolia will likely end the series in 3-1 score. If there's a fix game, I think game 3 was fixed so Meralco will not be swept, but usually it only happens one time, no more fix from now on and the better team will win.


SMB vs TNT, I have doubt on this now, it's probably TNT will advance, so I don't want to get hype with what the fans are thinking now.

I would also not bet on SMB to win, I guess I'll just bet on 1sthalf (SMB)/ Full time (TNT) as that's what I see in this game.
TNT will likely win this game as they are so dominant in the last 2 games. (though SMB came back).
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October 09, 2021, 10:47:33 PM
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Cojuangco group already has one team heading to the Finals, and that is the Magnolia as they are dominating the Bolts although they loss in game 3. No Almazan yet I guess, so Magnolia might make an adjustment again, and if refs are not against Magnolia tonight, they can easily beat the undermanned Meralco Bolts.

Yup, Almazan is a big loss to the Bolts and they can't win the series without him. So with that, i'm rooting for the Hotshot this game 4 as they can't allow the Bolts to even the series and bring that confidence back, Magnolia -3.5 @1.97 boosted.

SMB vs TNT, I have doubt on this now, it's probably TNT will advance, so I don't want to get hype with what the fans are thinking now.

This is one hell of a series for SMB, seems that TNT got their numbers so far and they are having a hard time figuring how to depend on the TNT bombardment from the rainbow country, 3s are killing the Beermen, and base on what I saw in game 3, I got a feeling that this would be TNT's year to be in the Finals so TNT ML @1.90 for me.
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October 10, 2021, 06:21:18 AM
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Cojuangco group already has one team heading to the Finals, and that is the Magnolia as they are dominating the Bolts although they loss in game 3. No Almazan yet I guess, so Magnolia might make an adjustment again, and if refs are not against Magnolia tonight, they can easily beat the undermanned Meralco Bolts.

Yup, Almazan is a big loss to the Bolts and they can't win the series without him. So with that, i'm rooting for the Hotshot this game 4 as they can't allow the Bolts to even the series and bring that confidence back, Magnolia -3.5 @1.97 boosted.

From the history of this series, both teams win with a much more comfortable lead, handicap like that if more likely covered if Magnolia
Will take this game from the Bolts again. But, considering the so-called fix games  Roll Eyes Tongue who knows, right? Good luck though, I know
you did your research and most of the time follows your instinct Grin

SMB vs TNT, I have doubt on this now, it's probably TNT will advance, so I don't want to get hype with what the fans are thinking now.

This is one hell of a series for SMB, seems that TNT got their numbers so far and they are having a hard time figuring how to depend on the TNT bombardment from the rainbow country, 3s are killing the Beermen, and base on what I saw in game 3, I got a feeling that this would be TNT's year to be in the Finals so TNT ML @1.90 for me.

No longer interested with martingale? Grin we all see that rainbow arc festival from TNT.

Adjustment is what SMB needs to tie this series if they are still aiming to win, tough call as both teams are well respected
and very competitive. Wishing you luck !

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October 10, 2021, 10:02:12 AM
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Wow! I did not see it coming, after a bad performance by the SMB in game 3, they bounce back strong to win by blowout and tie the series. This should go to game 7, and I think next game's winner will be the TNT. Meanwhile, looks like another blowout win by Magnolia is in the making now, they are up 20 points and they are ready to hand the Bolts another loss and this will be a 3-1 series after tonight.

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October 10, 2021, 10:36:38 AM
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Wow! I did not see it coming, after a bad performance by the SMB in game 3, they bounce back strong to win by blowout and tie the series. This should go to game 7, and I think next game's winner will be the TNT.
If you will see the recap on the PBA website, you will see something that didn't happen on Game 3.
The starters especially Erram didn't play that much compare to Game 3. They gave more time to their bench. Maybe this is because SMB got a huge lead coming to the 4th Quarter that they gave up already and give more time to the bench.

I didn't watch the whole game because of power outage but what happened to TNT in Game 3 happened to SMB in Game 4. The points are distributed and 7 players got double digits. I would love to see this series and the other one to go to 7 games. More games = more entertainment and more revenue Cheesy. Lets see what will happen in Game 5.

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