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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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September 11, 2021, 11:28:40 AM
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The quality of basketball in the Philippines is slowly diminishing because our supposed to star in the future are playing with other countries due to their competitive salary, just like our good professionals in the Philippines choose to work abroad for greener pasture.

What can the PBA do to stop them from choosing other league over the PBA, I think this brings a serious message that they have to act immediately.
Those who are going in the Japan B-League mostly are players who aren't playing in the PBA with the exception of Kiefer Ravena. Anyway there are 2 reasons that I think we know why they are going into other league.

1. Age restrictions - in order for a player to enter the draft, they must be at least 22 years old. There might be some that have reached 22 years old and older but they prefer to play in Japan probably because of competition, experience and the second one that I will say.
2. Money or Salary - lets face the truth that Japan is a rich country and if you will compare the salary of players in Japan and PH, the difference is very big. These players have families to feed anyway and include also the fact that they will learn more if they will play into other leagues.



Or safe to say the young players that are probably in their 20s, some PBA players will doubt of leaving the PBA as they don't know what would be their future abroad and if they will be able to come back in the PBA again. The concern is, what if the young potential players are all going to play abroad? Will the fans still enjoy the PBA?


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What can PBA do to stop what is happening?? One way that I'm seeing is an expansion. I mean add more teams so they can add more talented players. Another one is to increase the salary but I will not expect for this to happen.

Both are needed, expansion to number of teams and increase of salary.

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September 11, 2021, 11:37:04 AM
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A well-balanced scoring of the Phoenix Fuelmasters made them dominate the blackwater elite.

6 players scored double-digit, this is similar to the DYIP beating the Blackwater where everyone was scoring.
I think Blackwater will have their worst season this year with the way they are playing, they are not even competing well, they lose by double digits, there's no sign of progress on this team.

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September 11, 2021, 03:38:33 PM
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How about mini gambling guys if Blackwater will have a single win or not this conference.

Small bet between $10-$30 in USDT. I'm with NO. No odds or something just 1:1.

I'm with NO. Blackwater will have a 0 win record. Cheesy

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September 11, 2021, 08:50:53 PM
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A well-balanced scoring of the Phoenix Fuelmasters made them dominate the blackwater elite.
Good rotation of players leads them to win the game, Wright get all the support he neeeded.

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6 players scored double-digit, this is similar to the DYIP beating the Blackwater where everyone was scoring.

A good sign that they are now good in shape, Perkins, Jazul and Chua contribute decently. No longer A Matthew Wright
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I think Blackwater will have their worst season this year with the way they are playing, they are not even competing well, they lose by double digits, there's no sign of progress on this team.

No sign of progress, the chance to end this season without a win is very likely to happen.  Tongue

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September 11, 2021, 08:57:09 PM
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Horrible Blackwater Bossing.

With their recent loss, they are now in a 17 losing streak which ties a PBA record for the second-longest losing streak. Actually, they are good during early minutes but while the game is in progress, you will notice some disruptions on game. How about their way of freezing themselves if caught?

If I'm correct games played like layer is already paid of 17 losing streaks?
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September 11, 2021, 09:42:07 PM
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How about mini gambling guys if Blackwater will have a single win or not this conference.

Small bet between $10-$30 in USDT. I'm with NO. No odds or something just 1:1.

I'm with NO. Blackwater will have a 0 win record. Cheesy

That's interesting, but if we can make a rule like this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204905.0, then maybe we will see some bettors interested in putting their bet on Blackwater. Personally I don't think Meralco would have a single win this conference, but if the odds are attractive, then I might put a bet on that.

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September 12, 2021, 11:18:42 AM
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How about TNT vs Ginebra, which team do you think would win?

If I'm not mistaken, if Ginebra will lose in this game, they will be on a 3 losing streak.

1st they lose to DYIP, 2nd SMB, and then to TNT tonight.
We are at halftime now and TNT is leading by 7 points.

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September 12, 2021, 11:54:41 AM
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How about TNT vs Ginebra, which team do you think would win?

If I'm not mistaken, if Ginebra will lose in this game, they will be on a 3 losing streak.

1st they lose to DYIP, 2nd SMB, and then to TNT tonight.
We are at halftime now and TNT is leading by 7 points.

Game is over, TNT won the battle and dominated the Ginebra San Miguel by 21 points. Now, I like to ask everyone who is consistently watching the PBA, does the acquisition of C. Stand really help the team? or does it only makes the team ruined the chemistry and the results in a struggle?

Another great game by Mickey Williams by the way, he scored 27 points in this game and he lead the team to win.

story of the game : https://pba.ph/news/tnt-dominates-ginebra-pumps-up-bid-for-coveted-qf-seat
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September 12, 2021, 11:55:43 AM
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How about TNT vs Ginebra, which team do you think would win?

If I'm not mistaken, if Ginebra will lose in this game, they will be on a 3 losing streak.

1st they lose to DYIP, 2nd SMB, and then to TNT tonight.
We are at halftime now and TNT is leading by 7 points.

Ginebra lose with the score of 67-88 in favor of TNT. This is expected since they start to lose to DYIP. I think they don't have enough motivation to bounce back from the bottom. They will be in rock bottom next blackwater if they can't solve there internal issue. I don't know exactly what's happening to Ginebra right but this happened a lot before so I believe they will manage to recover because they are the team that has the most fan on PBA.

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September 12, 2021, 12:31:58 PM
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How about TNT vs Ginebra, which team do you think would win?

If I'm not mistaken, if Ginebra will lose in this game, they will be on a 3 losing streak.

1st they lose to DYIP, 2nd SMB, and then to TNT tonight.
We are at halftime now and TNT is leading by 7 points.

Game is over, TNT won the battle and dominated the Ginebra San Miguel by 21 points. Now, I like to ask everyone who is consistently watching the PBA, does the acquisition of C. Stand really help the team? or does it only makes the team ruined the chemistry and the results in a struggle?

Another great game by Mickey Williams by the way, he scored 27 points in this game and he lead the team to win.

story of the game : https://pba.ph/news/tnt-dominates-ginebra-pumps-up-bid-for-coveted-qf-seat


3 straight losses not good for Gin kings, same with that question did they win the trade?

Slaughter understands how the system works. He might not as dominant as
C.Stan but moving without the ball and giving good space for their legit scorer is the majority of his share way back.

They still have remaining games that can bring them up and able to move to the next round. They just need to start
winning every game now if they are still pursuing to win another title.
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TNT is now leading the whole conference Score 7-1 good start in this season but the problem is when they  up to finals their strategy will fade  and get loss from the opponent. Past few years their team succeed and they win from quarter to semi- final and the final game was come their game was different and their strategy was change then sadly they loss

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September 12, 2021, 12:58:27 PM
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Ginebra lose with the score of 67-88 in favor of TNT. This is expected since they start to lose to DYIP. I think they don't have enough motivation to bounce back from the bottom. They will be in rock bottom next blackwater if they can't solve there internal issue. I don't know exactly what's happening to Ginebra right but this happened a lot before so I believe they will manage to recover because they are the team that has the most fan on PBA.

They really have this chemistry issue with the arrival of Cstand, seems that the latter is having a hard time adjusting to coach Tim Cone's system.

With this situation Ginebra is in, i don't that that they would reach the semis and we might see some trades involving Cstand in the future.

NorthPort's situation is opposite with Ginebra and they are winning game lately and seems to me that NorthPort have the advantage of the Cstand-Slaughter trade.
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TNT is now leading the whole conference Score 7-1 good start in this season but the problem is when they  up to finals their strategy will fade  and get loss from the opponent. Past few years their team succeed and they win from quarter to semi- final and the final game was come their game was different and their strategy was change then sadly they loss
That's what we usually saw in the past, however, they have a new coach already and I think he is successful with his job as his first year after being out for a while, Chot Reyes is having a good run in the PBA. Also, the TNT is a much more improved team now as they have Mikey Willimans which become their top scorer and he is getting into the grove now.

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Horrible Blackwater Bossing.
With their recent loss, they are now in a 17 losing streak which ties a PBA record for the second-longest losing streak. Actually, they are good during early minutes but while the game is in progress, you will notice some disruptions on game. How about their way of freezing themselves if caught?
If I'm correct games played like layer is already paid of 17 losing streaks?

From what I have seen, I think that their chemistry is not working. They feel blacked out while attacking. They don't know where their teammates are or where to pass the ball to. Maybe some changes in the squad might have helped. Going on a 17 losing streak is no joke. This has already made the players demoralized.

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September 12, 2021, 01:13:15 PM
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TNT is now leading the whole conference Score 7-1 good start in this season but the problem is when they  up to finals their strategy will fade  and get loss from the opponent. Past few years their team succeed and they win from quarter to semi- final and the final game was come their game was different and their strategy was change then sadly they loss
That's what we usually saw in the past, however, they have a new coach already and I think he is successful with his job as his first year after being out for a while, Chot Reyes is having a good run in the PBA. Also, the TNT is a much more improved team now as they have Mikey Willimans which become their top scorer and he is getting into the grove now.

Yes we all know that Chot Reyes is one of the Best coach in the PBA history and have a good relationship for his team, so now I think they will win and get the championship  this season  as I can see their top scorers are pretty good dedication and motivation will bring them to victory.

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September 12, 2021, 01:20:55 PM
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TNT is now leading the whole conference Score 7-1 good start in this season but the problem is when they  up to finals their strategy will fade  and get loss from the opponent. Past few years their team succeed and they win from quarter to semi- final and the final game was come their game was different and their strategy was change then sadly they loss
That's what we usually saw in the past, however, they have a new coach already and I think he is successful with his job as his first year after being out for a while, Chot Reyes is having a good run in the PBA. Also, the TNT is a much more improved team now as they have Mikey Willimans which become their top scorer and he is getting into the grove now.

Yes we all know that Chot Reyes is one of the Best coach in the PBA history and have a good relationship for his team, so now I think they will win and get the championship  this season  as I can see their top scorers are pretty good dedication and motivation will bring them to victory.

I believe it's possible that they can get a championship this conference, it's good for Jason Willams as he wants to win before he retires.

Anyway, all the games today have already concluded, and in the last game, it was the Northport who are victorious again against the NLEX, this is their 3 win streak and this team is just getting better. While the BGSM is struggling, North Port on the other hand is enjoying its success.

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A well-balanced scoring of the Phoenix Fuelmasters made them dominate the blackwater elite.
6 players scored double-digit, this is similar to the DYIP beating the Blackwater where everyone was scoring.
I think Blackwater will have their worst season this year with the way they are playing, they are not even competing well, they lose by double digits, there's no sign of progress on this team.

I don't know if the issue is with the players or the coaching staff not being able to strategize correctly around the players. When 6 of you opponent's players score double figures, you have genuine issues with your squad. And this needs to be addressed as soon as possible, otherwise Blackwaters are up for a tough season ahead.
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September 12, 2021, 04:10:26 PM
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TNT is now leading the whole conference Score 7-1 good start in this season but the problem is when they  up to finals their strategy will fade  and get loss from the opponent. Past few years their team succeed and they win from quarter to semi- final and the final game was come their game was different and their strategy was change then sadly they loss
That's what we usually saw in the past, however, they have a new coach already and I think he is successful with his job as his first year after being out for a while, Chot Reyes is having a good run in the PBA. Also, the TNT is a much more improved team now as they have Mikey Willimans which become their top scorer and he is getting into the grove now.

Yes we all know that Chot Reyes is one of the Best coach in the PBA history and have a good relationship for his team, so now I think they will win and get the championship  this season  as I can see their top scorers are pretty good dedication and motivation will bring them to victory.

They are on the top but it's still early to assume that, it will be depend if who's team they'll going to meet if by chance they will move to the finals.

SMC Corp. Still the big nemesis by Pangilinan Group, whoever from SMB, BGSM and Magnolia are all competitive
and not easily can be beaten up.

Talking about winning the title, coach Chot is not new to that but the players that he's handling right now, that's still
questionable. Let us enjoy first this bubble and talk about it when we already see them in the finals.
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They really have this chemistry issue with the arrival of Cstand, seems that the latter is having a hard time adjusting to coach Tim Cone's system.
Since the arrival of CStan the chemistry between all ginebra players is collapsing, unlike before where young players are rotating and finding their space inside, they are scavenging balls and try all the best to help.

We are no longer seeing that; they are just pure rotations and they are just trying to follow the system that coach Tim design for them.
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With this situation Ginebra is in, i don't that that they would reach the semis and we might see some trades involving Cstand in the future.
Too early for that, knowing coach Tim, he will give CStan enough time to adopt. Maybe it's hard now for them to reach the finals, but who knows? They won't be called, never say die for nothing! Hehehe classic Ginebra follower Tongue Roll Eyes
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NorthPort's situation is opposite with Ginebra and they are winning game lately and seems to me that NorthPort have the advantage of the Cstand-Slaughter trade.
Indeed, they just escape and win over NLEX. They are now in the good run, placing themselves in a much better standing.

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They really have this chemistry issue with the arrival of Cstand, seems that the latter is having a hard time adjusting to coach Tim Cone's system.
Since the arrival of CStan the chemistry between all ginebra players is collapsing, unlike before where young players are rotating and finding their space inside, they are scavenging balls and try all the best to help.
That wasn't the expectation, we know that coach Tim Cone is good with handling his players and creating a good chemistry.
I also don't understand why they are having some problem, I see that C. Stand have a good season with the SMB, so maybe they should look at how did the SMB coaching did that so his talent will not be wasted.


We are no longer seeing that; they are just pure rotations and they are just trying to follow the system that coach Tim design for them.
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With this situation Ginebra is in, i don't that that they would reach the semis and we might see some trades involving Cstand in the future.
Too early for that, knowing coach Tim, he will give CStan enough time to adopt. Maybe it's hard now for them to reach the finals, but who knows? They won't be called, never say die for nothing! Hehehe classic Ginebra follower Tongue Roll Eyes
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NorthPort's situation is opposite with Ginebra and they are winning game lately and seems to me that NorthPort have the advantage of the Cstand-Slaughter trade.
Indeed, they just escape and win over NLEX. They are now in the good run, placing themselves in a much better standing.

Their win sometimes is not really that convincing, I miss the old Ginebra where they can dominate the opponent.
Maybe it's a karma for trading Greg after an assurance that if he will sign with them, they will not trade him.

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