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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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September 20, 2021, 09:58:34 PM
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By the way, anyone knows is there a betting site offering PBA futures or outright betting? Even a fiat bookies will do.
I will check for you mate, I guess I saw a post before about a local fiat bookie in the Philippines that offers a PBA future. For now, since we are mostly focused on crypto sportsbooks, what odds they'll display are only available, PBA is not like NBA which is a big market, so we have to just enjoy what we can get now.

The playoffs is in the air, much excitement will be seen for sure as we don't know yet if after this they would resume immediately.

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September 20, 2021, 10:12:37 PM
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Greg got a boost and as well as coach Pido for winning their game against ROS. Well, the last game was really controversial when coach Pido decided to let Greg out with just a 2 second remaining. That time remaining was longer than it can ever be.
Many still can't be moved on with that match but with this win that they've just took forgotten that mistake and certain win but was stolen by the last-second minute pass and play.
Greg was furious about why he was taken out, they could have won that game if he was inside. This time, they proven that coach Pido's decision was wrong because he had a game-winning block in this game and not only that, he also registered good stats making him the best player in the game.

Greg has proven himself to be one of the most valuable players in the PBA, he is playing very well to tell the Kings that they made a decision trading him to Northport, I hope Greg is loving where he is now as he is making a big impact to the team and suddenly, Northport has become an interesting team to watch. I guess today they'll have a break, no scheduled games today per https://pba.ph/.

Monster Gregzilla! Northport bounce back after an issue that results in their loss recently. Greg since the start of the conference doesn't show any signs that he is not comfortable with his team. He found the chemistry right away compare to Standhardinger in Ginebra.

But his monster performance should always be backed up by his teammates. Having a big man in the league is important and Northport is one of the team that has it. They need to utilized other player to support Greg.

It could be the 2nd block of Greg if he was not pulled out in their game against the Magnolia Hotspots, but lesson learned, I'm sure coach Pido will not pull him out anymore and will let him play until the game is over. The fans now appreciate how valuable Greg is, with Northport, his talent is very obvious compared to playing with the Ginebra which he does not have a good statistics, that's why he got traded.

Many fans got dissapointed on that substitution since he can change the game by his pressence inside the court but unfortunately their coach pull him out thats why we see an unfortunate result to them. Fans know how valuable he is inside the paint  the only thing he needs is to be utilize and get more minutes so that he can produce more quality performance in the game.

Some fans even speculate that the game was fixed because Northport is a farm team for SMC teams, lol.

Anyway, it's already over, coach Pido and Greg already corrected their mistake by winning a crucial game and Greg was the hero in that game. Hopefully, they will continue to win so this Northport will have a great conference with the help of Greg Slaughter.

We can't blame fans to speculate that way knowing how crucial the game is but they decide to take Greg out of the game which we know can contribute more bigger than to the player who replace him at that time, but since it already happens and they made an adjustment well that's fine and good thing there last game comes with good result since if not they will get more disappointment from the fans and might many will lose interest to them.

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September 20, 2021, 10:22:54 PM
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By the way, anyone knows is there a betting site offering PBA futures or outright betting? Even a fiat bookies will do.
I will check for you mate, I guess I saw a post before about a local fiat bookie in the Philippines that offers a PBA future. For now, since we are mostly focused on crypto sportsbooks, what odds they'll display are only available, PBA is not like NBA which is a big market, so we have to just enjoy what we can get now.

The playoffs is in the air, much excitement will be seen for sure as we don't know yet if after this they would resume immediately.

You are correct that PBA is not a big market compare to NBA and no way they will. But I'm expecting some local fiat bookies here will offer betting futures since that's what "local" betting is served for so they should cover that betting option.

I tried asking my close one as he is an agent of PN**** but find no options for the PBA future. I didn't mention the site as it has a bad reputation here although I don't understand as that platform is considered a legit one here in our place and running for years now if I'm not mistaken.

Thanks for the effort mate.
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September 20, 2021, 10:51:27 PM
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We can't blame fans to speculate that way knowing how crucial the game is but they decide to take Greg out of the game which we know can contribute more bigger than to the player who replace him at that time, but since it already happens and they made an adjustment well that's fine and good thing there last game comes with good result since if not they will get more disappointment from the fans and might many will lose interest to them.
It's already done though and they have redeemed themselves already. I guess a mistake like that is also being used for them to be better with their next games.
It's also they have to take and there's no need to prolong that last few seconds of game play. For sure if they've made another mistake, they will be called out again by their fans. The difference today is because there's social media and mistakes like that will spread quickly.

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September 20, 2021, 11:13:14 PM
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We can't blame fans to speculate that way knowing how crucial the game is but they decide to take Greg out of the game which we know can contribute more bigger than to the player who replace him at that time, but since it already happens and they made an adjustment well that's fine and good thing there last game comes with good result since if not they will get more disappointment from the fans and might many will lose interest to them.
It's already done though and they have redeemed themselves already. I guess a mistake like that is also being used for them to be better with their next games.
It's also they have to take and there's no need to prolong that last few seconds of game play. For sure if they've made another mistake, they will be called out again by their fans. The difference today is because there's social media and mistakes like that will spread quickly.
The wide spread by the help of social media really plays a big role, but as professionals they already learned and move on from that mistake, fans are likely trying to prolong that case to keep reminding the coaching staff not to make another same mistake.

NP is now in a good shape, they comeback and this time they take the win, what we've seen from that game is coach Pido is willing to
adjust, a good sign that he wanted to win and be more competitive.

We would see more good and quality games from NP as Gregzilla is showing that he missed the league, and he's bringing what he was expected since joining PBA. Late but still good if they manage to keep improving the stats of the whole team.

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September 20, 2021, 11:26:55 PM
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We can't blame fans to speculate that way knowing how crucial the game is but they decide to take Greg out of the game which we know can contribute more bigger than to the player who replace him at that time, but since it already happens and they made an adjustment well that's fine and good thing there last game comes with good result since if not they will get more disappointment from the fans and might many will lose interest to them.
It's already done though and they have redeemed themselves already. I guess a mistake like that is also being used for them to be better with their next games.
It's also they have to take and there's no need to prolong that last few seconds of game play. For sure if they've made another mistake, they will be called out again by their fans. The difference today is because there's social media and mistakes like that will spread quickly.
The wide spread by the help of social media really plays a big role, but as professionals they already learned and move on from that mistake, fans are likely trying to prolong that case to keep reminding the coaching staff not to make another same mistake.

NP is now in a good shape, they comeback and this time they take the win, what we've seen from that game is coach Pido is willing to
adjust, a good sign that he wanted to win and be more competitive.

We would see more good and quality games from NP as Gregzilla is showing that he missed the league, and he's bringing what he was expected since joining PBA. Late but still good if they manage to keep improving the stats of the whole team.

Yup, what's done is already done and they're moving forward to their next match. Many made fun of coach Pido with that mistake and now he has done good and many have taken back what they've said to coach Pido.
It's not still that crucial for the game and there are games to play with and they don't think about it anymore and for sure that they'll be better with the next matches they have.

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September 20, 2021, 11:29:24 PM
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Blackwater Bossing coaching staff to undergo major revamp following record-breaking losing streak

Just recently, we all know that Blackwater made the history of the longest losing streak in league history. They finished at a record of 0-11. I'm not aware that it's not just only the standing but they already lost 19 straight games. Yes, since the last year's bubble.

Revamping coaching staff? Is that really their problem? Maybe slightly yes, as the coach's role is to give morale to players while assembling and forming teams. But for me, it's on the players. I'm not taking the reason that they are still not in shape as other teams on their level are improving.

Even Coach Tim Cone will coach them, if these players don't have that desire to compete, then it's useless. Even Phil Jackson won't give this team a win lol. Losing 19 straight games is not a joke and a serious problem already. They should revamp from top to bottom.

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September 21, 2021, 03:31:22 AM
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Some fans even speculate that the game was fixed because Northport is a farm team for SMC teams, lol.
That was because of the recent news that one of the SMB players is accused of being a tipster, but actually, it's not new, people already suspect that this league is rig.
I read the article, and there have been some screenshots of exchange messages by the accused and the one who accused. However, it seems like the PBA is not so interested in investigating it as in the first place, the accused has denied the accusation, and it does not help for the image of the PBA if they will prove the accusation to be true.

The accused always denies don't they? But PBA also has their reasons for not digging deeper in this matter. But people are not stupid. They know almost certainly what's going on. But the main thing is people choose to forget most of the things through time. The same thing will happen here. Though people are not sure, they know. Screenshots can be fake but what about the message exchanges?

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September 21, 2021, 09:18:36 AM
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Blackwater Bossing coaching staff to undergo major revamp following record-breaking losing streak

Just recently, we all know that Blackwater made the history of the longest losing streak in league history. They finished at a record of 0-11. I'm not aware that it's not just only the standing but they already lost 19 straight games. Yes, since the last year's bubble.
And that streak will continue at the start of the next season. I still can't imagine how this team didn't managed to get even just 1 win. Well, maybe there is a problem internally. The management maybe? or the players themselves because they are lacking morale and focus? or even the coach for some reasons.

Revamping coaching staff? Is that really their problem? Maybe slightly yes, as the coach's role is to give morale to players while assembling and forming teams. But for me, it's on the players. I'm not taking the reason that they are still not in shape as other teams on their level are improving.
If you will see the roster of the team, you can't see even one all-star caliber player on it. They are just average players that are into one team hoping to get a win and remove the current lose streak.

Even Coach Tim Cone will coach them, if these players don't have that desire to compete, then it's useless. Even Phil Jackson won't give this team a win lol. Losing 19 straight games is not a joke and a serious problem already. They should revamp from top to bottom.
Kinda funny TBH at least on my side but its very disappointing to see them losing 19 straight games. Revamping the whole management is a good start. Getting better players will be a good start. Having a better coach will be a good start. Revamping the whole team itself might be a step towards players getting their morale boosted. If there is a problem in the team then they must fix it if they want to get wins.

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September 21, 2021, 09:48:44 AM
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Blackwater Bossing coaching staff to undergo major revamp following record-breaking losing streak

Just recently, we all know that Blackwater made the history of the longest losing streak in league history. They finished at a record of 0-11. I'm not aware that it's not just only the standing but they already lost 19 straight games. Yes, since the last year's bubble.

Revamping coaching staff? Is that really their problem? Maybe slightly yes, as the coach's role is to give morale to players while assembling and forming teams. But for me, it's on the players. I'm not taking the reason that they are still not in shape as other teams on their level are improving.

Even Coach Tim Cone will coach them, if these players don't have that desire to compete, then it's useless. Even Phil Jackson won't give this team a win lol. Losing 19 straight games is not a joke and a serious problem already. They should revamp from top to bottom.
What a coincidence, I was just browsing on newsfeed and the news came out from One Sports about this contract review. When they're not working well and they keep on losing, there's really a major thing that they have to change and now is the right time for them to review each contract and revamping the team. If they want to prolong this franchise and make it worthy, they should really need to make a lot of changes, from the coaching staff, players and almost everything to see if there's going to be a sudden change.

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September 21, 2021, 04:00:57 PM
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Blackwater Bossing coaching staff to undergo major revamp following record-breaking losing streak

Just recently, we all know that Blackwater made the history of the longest losing streak in league history. They finished at a record of 0-11. I'm not aware that it's not just only the standing but they already lost 19 straight games. Yes, since the last year's bubble.

Revamping coaching staff? Is that really their problem? Maybe slightly yes, as the coach's role is to give morale to players while assembling and forming teams. But for me, it's on the players. I'm not taking the reason that they are still not in shape as other teams on their level are improving.

Even Coach Tim Cone will coach them, if these players don't have that desire to compete, then it's useless. Even Phil Jackson won't give this team a win lol. Losing 19 straight games is not a joke and a serious problem already. They should revamp from top to bottom.
What a coincidence, I was just browsing on newsfeed and the news came out from One Sports about this contract review. When they're not working well and they keep on losing, there's really a major thing that they have to change and now is the right time for them to review each contract and revamping the team. If they want to prolong this franchise and make it worthy, they should really need to make a lot of changes, from the coaching staff, players and almost everything to see if there's going to be a sudden change.

No offense from the team owner, but if they wanted to make a good change it should be the players that they needed to revamp.

Even you have coach Tim or Coach Chot, with the squad you have from your roster,
it's impossible to make any miracle wining a single game,

there's none who are willing to step up, sorry for the word but all those players are
not the type of players who are willing to step up and bring to the competition to a good level,
they are just there to play, win or lose  they are okay with the paycheck.
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September 21, 2021, 09:19:41 PM
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Blackwater Bossing coaching staff to undergo major revamp following record-breaking losing streak

Just recently, we all know that Blackwater made the history of the longest losing streak in league history. They finished at a record of 0-11. I'm not aware that it's not just only the standing but they already lost 19 straight games. Yes, since the last year's bubble.

Revamping coaching staff? Is that really their problem? Maybe slightly yes, as the coach's role is to give morale to players while assembling and forming teams. But for me, it's on the players. I'm not taking the reason that they are still not in shape as other teams on their level are improving.

Even Coach Tim Cone will coach them, if these players don't have that desire to compete, then it's useless. Even Phil Jackson won't give this team a win lol. Losing 19 straight games is not a joke and a serious problem already. They should revamp from top to bottom.
What a coincidence, I was just browsing on newsfeed and the news came out from One Sports about this contract review. When they're not working well and they keep on losing, there's really a major thing that they have to change and now is the right time for them to review each contract and revamping the team. If they want to prolong this franchise and make it worthy, they should really need to make a lot of changes, from the coaching staff, players and almost everything to see if there's going to be a sudden change.

No offense from the team owner, but if they wanted to make a good change it should be the players that they needed to revamp.

Even you have coach Tim or Coach Chot, with the squad you have from your roster,
it's impossible to make any miracle wining a single game,

there's none who are willing to step up, sorry for the word but all those players are
not the type of players who are willing to step up and bring to the competition to a good level,
they are just there to play, win or lose  they are okay with the paycheck.

Maybe there's a big problem inside, not only the coaching staff and the players, the management as well. They will have a lot of time to review and evaluate what has happened, their record is worst, and therefore they should act on it immediately. Actually, this team has been struggling every season, but this is their worst so far.
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September 21, 2021, 10:08:04 PM
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Blackwater Bossing coaching staff to undergo major revamp following record-breaking losing streak

Just recently, we all know that Blackwater made the history of the longest losing streak in league history. They finished at a record of 0-11. I'm not aware that it's not just only the standing but they already lost 19 straight games. Yes, since the last year's bubble.

Revamping coaching staff? Is that really their problem? Maybe slightly yes, as the coach's role is to give morale to players while assembling and forming teams. But for me, it's on the players. I'm not taking the reason that they are still not in shape as other teams on their level are improving.

Even Coach Tim Cone will coach them, if these players don't have that desire to compete, then it's useless. Even Phil Jackson won't give this team a win lol. Losing 19 straight games is not a joke and a serious problem already. They should revamp from top to bottom.
What a coincidence, I was just browsing on newsfeed and the news came out from One Sports about this contract review. When they're not working well and they keep on losing, there's really a major thing that they have to change and now is the right time for them to review each contract and revamping the team. If they want to prolong this franchise and make it worthy, they should really need to make a lot of changes, from the coaching staff, players and almost everything to see if there's going to be a sudden change.

No offense from the team owner, but if they wanted to make a good change it should be the players that they needed to revamp.

Even you have coach Tim or Coach Chot, with the squad you have from your roster,
it's impossible to make any miracle wining a single game,

there's none who are willing to step up, sorry for the word but all those players are
not the type of players who are willing to step up and bring to the competition to a good level,
they are just there to play, win or lose  they are okay with the paycheck.
They're like became the farm team of stronger teams and I guess it's not too late for them to have this revamp. It may seem to be late when they should've done this before when they always get to kicked early for many conferences.
They will have a revamp and for sure that they'll start to invest with greater players that shall uplift the team and also it will include the coaching staff and it seems that the owner wants to give his company's name on the PBA to have a better title.

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September 22, 2021, 08:20:22 AM
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They're like became the farm team of stronger teams and I guess it's not too late for them to have this revamp. It may seem to be late when they should've done this before when they always get to kicked early for many conferences.
They will have a revamp and for sure that they'll start to invest with greater players that shall uplift the team and also it will include the coaching staff and it seems that the owner wants to give his company's name on the PBA to have a better title.

The last time they are playing good is when Parks still with them, he single carried this team and try to make a playoff appearance,

after that there's none and each conference they attempt they keep ending up last in winners tally.
revamping is really the best thing to do now, they need to invest more money with good talents and have a much better winning percentage.

This current roster don't have any winning chemistry and the management needs to part ways with most of them if not all.

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We have SMB vs Alaska tonight at 6;00 Pm.

Only 1 game and I'm taking the SMB at -7.5 since this is a must win for them and I believe they will handle Alaska easily who lose against the DYIP in double digits. Also betting on the total and my pick is under 186.5.

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September 22, 2021, 10:18:23 AM
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We have SMB vs Alaska tonight at 6;00 Pm.

Only 1 game and I'm taking the SMB at -7.5 since this is a must win for them and I believe they will handle Alaska easily who lose against the DYIP in double digits. Also betting on the total and my pick is under 186.5.

I got it at -6.5 @2.02 boosted for SMB as i bet early in the morning and look like they are heading now for a win, leading by seven points in the middle of the second quarter. Alaska is depleted and playing fatigue so an upset is unlikely in this game, all we have to wait for now is what will be the lead after the final buzzer sound.

On the other hand, Ginebra seems to be in disarray t the moment. Scottie Thompson is being listed with injury while Mark Caguia is on the free-agent while rumors have it that Ginebra big man will soon be taking his act on Japan B league. Who might that be? Any guess?
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September 22, 2021, 10:29:38 AM
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We have SMB vs Alaska tonight at 6;00 Pm.

Only 1 game and I'm taking the SMB at -7.5 since this is a must win for them and I believe they will handle Alaska easily who lose against the DYIP in double digits. Also betting on the total and my pick is under 186.5.

I got it at -6.5 @2.02 boosted for SMB as i bet early in the morning and look like they are heading now for a win, leading by seven points in the middle of the second quarter. Alaska is depleted and playing fatigue so an upset is unlikely in this game, all we have to wait for now is what will be the lead after the final buzzer sound.
Alaska flip things fast, they are in the lead now, with 4 points, good run in the 2nd quarter as they only allow the SMB to score 10 points.

On the other hand, Ginebra seems to be in disarray t the moment. Scottie Thompson is being listed with injury while Mark Caguia is on the free-agent while rumors have it that Ginebra big man will soon be taking his act on Japan B league. Who might that be? Any guess?
Is it Japeth or C. Stand? well, if they will look for better opportunity, then they can play with the B League, it's where the money is.

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September 22, 2021, 12:02:52 PM
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I thought SMB would lose the game.

Nice last play design by the SMB, just in time and Marcio did not fail us with this game-winning shot.
SMB just won by 1 point and they did not cover the spread.  Sad

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We have SMB vs Alaska tonight at 6;00 Pm.

Only 1 game and I'm taking the SMB at -7.5 since this is a must win for them and I believe they will handle Alaska easily who lose against the DYIP in double digits. Also betting on the total and my pick is under 186.5.

I got it at -6.5 @2.02 boosted for SMB as i bet early in the morning and look like they are heading now for a win, leading by seven points in the middle of the second quarter. Alaska is depleted and playing fatigue so an upset is unlikely in this game, all we have to wait for now is what will be the lead after the final buzzer sound.
Alaska flip things fast, they are in the lead now, with 4 points, good run in the 2nd quarter as they only allow the SMB to score 10 points.

Lost my bet here but what a ballgame, Alaska did fight until the seconds of the game. A clutch trey by Marcio Lassiter did seal the win for SMB, wow.

On the other hand, Ginebra seems to be in disarray t the moment. Scottie Thompson is being listed with injury while Mark Caguia is on the free-agent while rumors have it that Ginebra big man will soon be taking his act on Japan B league. Who might that be? Any guess?
Is it Japeth or C. Stand? well, if they will look for better opportunity, then they can play with the B League, it's where the money is.

Per rumor, I think it would CStand. Also, there are rumors that CStand's arrival on Ginebra is not welcome by most of his teammates, this might also be the one reason why they are losing games opposite to what we all have expected.
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September 22, 2021, 01:27:12 PM
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Per rumor, I think it would CStand. Also, there are rumors that CStand's arrival on Ginebra is not welcome by most of his teammates, this might also be the one reason why they are losing games opposite to what we all have expected.
Then it's time for him to look for a team that will appreciate him, and I think he will be more valued in B League as C. Stand is used to playing in international competitions. I think C. Stand really has the talent, he just belongs to the wrong team which obviously affected his performance and his statistics.
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