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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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October 07, 2021, 08:13:21 PM
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Betting with Tropang Texters this time around and might be a close one so it's under 905. I can see they are probably disappointed on the recent outcome because they got the lead until 3rd yet they still get the defeat. I'm thinking this time it may that be a close game and more tighten defense on and of the board, having a good luck with my bet.
I like that pick though but the odds, is very low, what site are you using? I have the same bet at under 90.5 but  I can get 1.90, 10% higher than the odds you take. Anyway, if you win that's alright but in the long run, I suggest you choose a good bookie that offers the competitive odds.
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October 07, 2021, 08:25:12 PM
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Paul Lee has a lesser burden now because he has Abueva who provides energy in the floor. Meralco has no chance to beat the Magnlio, they have been dominated already in the last 2 games.

Everyone was stepping up actually.

We saw that, that's why he delivers more because the defense is not only focused on him. Meralco is now on the brink of elimination, one loss and everything will be gone for them ( at least they should not expect to come back from 3-0 deficit). Therefore, they have to give everything they have and they can in game 3, it should be considered as a win or go home game for them.
No excuse for them, game 3 is a must-win game, if they lose, then consider this as the series over. The other match-up is more fun, SMB came back from a huge deficit in order to even the series, and now it's only a best of 5 series, and game 1 and game 2 were really entertaining.

As of now, no odds are available yet but expect tonight it will be open.

This series is less competitive than the other. Bolts will be swept if Almazan won't suit up for tomorrow's game as Cliff Hodge will be abuse by Calvin Abueva and Jackson Corpuz down low. It's only the TNT Katropa of the MVP group of companies who got a chance for the trophy.

If we based our bet for the 3rd game of SMB and TNT on the previous games then betting for TNT is more likely will give us the win for our money if the spread moves in favor of TNT like 2.5 or 3.5.

Odds are not out yet and if ever bookies will give odds like above as speculated then i might go with the Katropa.

Well not hopefully, Alamzan should suit up. If not, they'll be eaten by Magnolia. Hodge can't contain Abueva at most, and in return Abueva is just toying Hodge. Plus, Sangalang and Lee on the other hand are getting the the deal done. In addition, Abueva still contributing on the scoring as well plus his effort on the defensive side. Magnolia right now, is quite a scary team, to be honest, or it's just that Meralco lacks the manpower to overthrow Magnolia?

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October 07, 2021, 08:59:30 PM
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Betting with Tropang Texters this time around and might be a close one so it's under 905. I can see they are probably disappointed on the recent outcome because they got the lead until 3rd yet they still get the defeat. I'm thinking this time it may that be a close game and more tighten defense on and of the board, having a good luck with my bet.
I like that pick though but the odds, is very low, what site are you using? I have the same bet at under 90.5 but  I can get 1.90, 10% higher than the odds you take. Anyway, if you win that's alright but in the long run, I suggest you choose a good bookie that offers the competitive odds.
If only Sportsbet offers that market, I could get at least 2.00 using a price boost, yes, odds different matters a lot as that is the value of our money which we only felt in the long run, but gamblers who play for fun, of course, it's not a big deal as they are confident the bet will win.

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October 07, 2021, 09:59:59 PM
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Well not hopefully, Alamzan should suit up. If not, they'll be eaten by Magnolia. Hodge can't contain Abueva at most, and in return Abueva is just toying Hodge. Plus, Sangalang and Lee on the other hand are getting the the deal done. In addition, Abueva still contributing on the scoring as well plus his effort on the defensive side. Magnolia right now, is quite a scary team, to be honest, or it's just that Meralco lacks the manpower to overthrow Magnolia?

I agree, Magnolia is a scary team at the moment with the addition of Calvin Abueva and it seems that they are going to sweep the Bolts even with Almazan around. Frontcourt and backcourt, Magnolia Hotshots have the advantage IMO so Magnolia -3.5 @1.88 is attractive for me and it's my pick for today's first game.

It's not that Bolts lacks the manpower but the skill level of its roster is just below that of the hotshot so getting a single win in this series is just a hard thing for them to do right now.
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October 08, 2021, 02:31:32 AM
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I like that pick though but the odds, is very low, what site are you using? I have the same bet at under 90.5 but  I can get 1.90, 10% higher than the odds you take. Anyway, if you win that's alright but in the long run, I suggest you choose a good bookie that offers the competitive odds.
I'm not quite familiar to be honest with the odd system whatsoever in regards to sports betting as I seldomly try the gamble and was just to try my luck at the same time watching the game, exciting part of the outcome and my luck. I'm using Roobet's sports betting site.

but gamblers who play for fun, of course, it's not a big deal as they are confident the bet will win.
Exactly mate, this was meant for fun to be honest it was less likely a $20-$30 bet and I'm still thinking of other option with the other game of Meralco vs Magnolia later on. Likely not that confident to be honest, there was some slight agitation on the process on if it will win or not but I will likely watch the outcome.
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October 08, 2021, 09:22:36 AM
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The Bolts almost lost their momentum going into the 4th Quarter because of the pressure of the Magnolia coming to that quarter but they managed to get a win still 91-86.
Meralco is still alive with this series and I think its expected that adjustments by Coach Norman will be made because he don't want his team down 0-3.

Newsome lead the Meralco with 17 points and his "nail on the coffin" shot with a little bump on Abueva. 4 of the Bolts scored in double digits - same with the Magnolia. Even though the Magnolia lose into this, I think that they still have the momentum right now and they are still the ones who are betting to win. Adjustments will be made as always in the next few days and lets see how these teams will play in Game 4.

Lets watch the second game: SMB VS. TNT Smiley.

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October 08, 2021, 10:22:41 AM
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Lets watch the second game: SMB VS. TNT Smiley.

Here we go again, looks like I already see this scenario where TNT leads in the 1st half but they will allow SMB to roar back in the 2nd half. So far, TNT has a good double-digit lead but the result is always unpredictable because we can't conclude yet that SMB will not come back anymore.

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October 08, 2021, 10:33:34 AM
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Lets watch the second game: SMB VS. TNT Smiley.

Here we go again, looks like I already see this scenario where TNT leads in the 1st half but they will allow SMB to roar back in the 2nd half. So far, TNT has a good double-digit lead but the result is always unpredictable because we can't conclude yet that SMB will not come back anymore.

Very similar in game 2, 25-41 is the score now, TNT has been dominating so far but we know that SMB is a good 2nd half team, so we should watch out for the bounce back in the 2nd half. I guess I will put my bet on SMB to win in the 3rd quarter as TNT would not give everything they have so they still have energy left in the 4th quarter which is the quarter that they lost in game 2.

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October 08, 2021, 10:58:27 AM
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Lets watch the second game: SMB VS. TNT Smiley.

Here we go again, looks like I already see this scenario where TNT leads in the 1st half but they will allow SMB to roar back in the 2nd half. So far, TNT has a good double-digit lead but the result is always unpredictable because we can't conclude yet that SMB will not come back anymore.

Very similar in game 2, 25-41 is the score now, TNT has been dominating so far but we know that SMB is a good 2nd half team, so we should watch out for the bounce back in the 2nd half. I guess I will put my bet on SMB to win in the 3rd quarter as TNT would not give everything they have so they still have energy left in the 4th quarter which is the quarter that they lost in game 2.

End of the first half and TNT lead by 12 points as usual. SMB can't play catch-up basketball every time, they should make it a close game as long as possible and not down by two-digit. Odds for SMB is 3.20 at the moment, attractive for those who believe the Beermen could catch up with the Katropa in the second half.
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October 08, 2021, 11:03:29 AM
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Lets watch the second game: SMB VS. TNT Smiley.

Here we go again, looks like I already see this scenario where TNT leads in the 1st half but they will allow SMB to roar back in the 2nd half. So far, TNT has a good double-digit lead but the result is always unpredictable because we can't conclude yet that SMB will not come back anymore.

Very similar in game 2, 25-41 is the score now, TNT has been dominating so far but we know that SMB is a good 2nd half team, so we should watch out for the bounce back in the 2nd half. I guess I will put my bet on SMB to win in the 3rd quarter as TNT would not give everything they have so they still have energy left in the 4th quarter which is the quarter that they lost in game 2.

End of the first half and TNT lead by 12 points as usual. SMB can't play catch-up basketball every time, they should make it a close game as long as possible and not down by two-digit. Odds for SMB is 3.20 at the moment, attractive for those who believe the Beermen could catch up with the Katropa in the second half.
They have to start going back in the 3rd quarter, it's not necessary that they will take the lead but to trim the lead of TNT to a single digit lead only, I think SMB has a great chance of winning this game again. TNT always dictates them, they can't be lucky all the time. By the way, I'm not taking the live bet as I already put my bet in the pregame, I don't want to get played by my emotion.

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October 08, 2021, 11:19:12 AM
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Lets watch the second game: SMB VS. TNT Smiley.

Here we go again, looks like I already see this scenario where TNT leads in the 1st half but they will allow SMB to roar back in the 2nd half. So far, TNT has a good double-digit lead but the result is always unpredictable because we can't conclude yet that SMB will not come back anymore.

Very similar in game 2, 25-41 is the score now, TNT has been dominating so far but we know that SMB is a good 2nd half team, so we should watch out for the bounce back in the 2nd half. I guess I will put my bet on SMB to win in the 3rd quarter as TNT would not give everything they have so they still have energy left in the 4th quarter which is the quarter that they lost in game 2.

End of the first half and TNT lead by 12 points as usual. SMB can't play catch-up basketball every time, they should make it a close game as long as possible and not down by two-digit. Odds for SMB is 3.20 at the moment, attractive for those who believe the Beermen could catch up with the Katropa in the second half.
They have to start going back in the 3rd quarter, it's not necessary that they will take the lead but to trim the lead of TNT to a single digit lead only, I think SMB has a great chance of winning this game again. TNT always dictates them, they can't be lucky all the time. By the way, I'm not taking the live bet as I already put my bet in the pregame, I don't want to get played by my emotion.

If they can't do that, they still have the 4th quarter, don't worry, nothing is impossible as long as SMB does not lose hope. However, if SMB loses in tonight's game, then again, we just have to do the very popular strategy, which is to back them every time they lose.
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October 08, 2021, 11:56:49 AM
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Lets watch the second game: SMB VS. TNT Smiley.

Here we go again, looks like I already see this scenario where TNT leads in the 1st half but they will allow SMB to roar back in the 2nd half. So far, TNT has a good double-digit lead but the result is always unpredictable because we can't conclude yet that SMB will not come back anymore.
4 and a half minutes remaining in the 4th quarter and I already stopped watching because the lead is 20.
Looks like what you've predicted didn't happen. TNT managed to get the lead at the start of the first quarter and they didn't look back ever since.

The main reason why SMB is in a huge deficit is their turnovers. They have 20+ turnovers as of this moment and it kills them so bad. On the other hand, TNT is capitalizing their turnovers scoring 29 points from it. One thing more is Fajardo. He scored just 14 as of now since the game isn't over still and there is no help coming from others aside from Romeo who scored 22 unlike from TNT who has all 5 starters in double figures. The points are just distributed in TNT. 2-1 in favor of TNT.

P.S. The game ended with a score of 115-98.

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P.S. The game ended with a score of 115-98.
Unfortunately, not a similar scenario we saw in game 2, despite my loss, I would still say congratulations to TNT, and those who put their bet on TNT to win tonight, they deserve that win, after a heartbreaking loss in game 2, they bounce back and prove that they are too much for SMB.

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October 08, 2021, 04:25:01 PM
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P.S. The game ended with a score of 115-98.
Unfortunately, not a similar scenario we saw in game 2, despite my loss, I would still say congratulations to TNT, and those who put their bet on TNT to win tonight, they deserve that win, after a heartbreaking loss in game 2, they bounce back and prove that they are too much for SMB.

They learned from those two previous games; they are well ready not to allow SMB to come back.

Putting more pressures and really taking shots to ensure that even SMB try hard to make a rally
they are ready not to allow a close game scenario again.

TNT deserves that kudos! Congrats to all TNT fans, series now in 2-1 in favor of TNT, 
still close and a possible to see a do-or-die series Roll Eyes

With Magnolia and Meralco, they now also have 2-1 series, interesting to see that
Bolts are not willing to end this series without fighting for survival.
More games means more chance to keep betting! Grin
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October 08, 2021, 04:45:52 PM
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Lets watch the second game: SMB VS. TNT Smiley.

Here we go again, looks like I already see this scenario where TNT leads in the 1st half but they will allow SMB to roar back in the 2nd half. So far, TNT has a good double-digit lead but the result is always unpredictable because we can't conclude yet that SMB will not come back anymore.
4 and a half minutes remaining in the 4th quarter and I already stopped watching because the lead is 20.
Looks like what you've predicted didn't happen. TNT managed to get the lead at the start of the first quarter and they didn't look back ever since.

The main reason why SMB is in a huge deficit is their turnovers. They have 20+ turnovers as of this moment and it kills them so bad. On the other hand, TNT is capitalizing their turnovers scoring 29 points from it. One thing more is Fajardo. He scored just 14 as of now since the game isn't over still and there is no help coming from others aside from Romeo who scored 22 unlike from TNT who has all 5 starters in double figures. The points are just distributed in TNT. 2-1 in favor of TNT.

P.S. The game ended with a score of 115-98.

This time SMB was not able to pull a big come back, the defense of TNT was perfect, they put pressure on the SMB and they move faster so JMF was less effective here.  SMB coach has to make a game plan in game 4, they should not allow TNT to dominate them, as much as possible, they have to make the gap close or take the lead in the early minutes of the game.

Great game also by Mikey Williams here, he struggles in game 1 and 2 but he found himself here in game 3.

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October 08, 2021, 05:21:08 PM
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The line is now up for SMB vs TNT.


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Still nice odds for SMB, anyone here believes that SMB will take a 2-1 lead after that miraculous come back?
Romeo was already activated, he might still be hot in this game.

Both odds for SMB and Magnolia are interesting. After that 2-0 lead, Magnolia can sweep the Bolts if there're no changes from their system.

They needed to make a good stop. The big three are really making a good damage, Lee, Abueva and Sangalang.
adjustment from the defensive plays needs to be more focus both outside and inside.

I was expecting a 3-0 lead by Magnolia but seems like the fix was in, lol. |
It was a dominant performance by the Meralco but they almost collapse in the 4th quarter giving a scare on their chance to make the series longer.
No Almazan in that game but everyone steps up, especially Newsome.

SMB as an underdog? After winning game 2, interesting to take this odd. With Romeo and Fajardo playing much healthier now
 
The chance of winning is very possible.

It was a trap, SMB does not show their toughness in this game, they didn't even try to come back as the whole game ended up a well domination by the TNT.

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October 08, 2021, 05:35:06 PM
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It was a trap, SMB does not show their toughness in this game, they didn't even try to come back as the whole game ended up a well domination by the TNT.

We were not expecting that it's a trap, SMB did a great job on a comeback win in game 2 but they seem playing tired in game 3. Anyway, we can't change what happen but SMB still has game 4 to try to even the series and for sure they will make sure they will win and will not play catch-up game as they would usually lose on that scenario.

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October 08, 2021, 05:57:32 PM
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It was a trap, SMB does not show their toughness in this game, they didn't even try to come back as the whole game ended up a well domination by the TNT.

We were not expecting that it's a trap, SMB did a great job on a comeback win in game 2 but they seem playing tired in game 3. Anyway, we can't change what happen but SMB still has game 4 to try to even the series and for sure they will make sure they will win and will not play catch-up game as they would usually lose on that scenario.

TNT played well, there's no question about that, and I agree with you, SMB seems tired the role players did not contribute that much. Still have another game to compete. Maybe they will try harder to beat TNT's system. Coach Leo needs to work with each player to be more competitive and not to allow TNT's stars to just keep taking shots and have a higher confidence. SMB needs to work more with good defense and a good counter with every conversion from TNT players. A long way for this series and they need to keep working hard if they want to win.

Though TNT is really an improved team, William's presence is now bringing big impact, together with Erram, Rosario and Poguy coach Chot made this team more solid and very competitive.

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October 08, 2021, 06:35:52 PM
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It was a trap, SMB does not show their toughness in this game, they didn't even try to come back as the whole game ended up a well domination by the TNT.

We were not expecting that it's a trap, SMB did a great job on a comeback win in game 2 but they seem playing tired in game 3. Anyway, we can't change what happen but SMB still has game 4 to try to even the series and for sure they will make sure they will win and will not play catch-up game as they would usually lose on that scenario.

TNT played well, there's no question about that, and I agree with you, SMB seems tired the role players did not contribute that much. Still have another game to compete. Maybe they will try harder to beat TNT's system. Coach Leo needs to work with each player to be more competitive and not to allow TNT's stars to just keep taking shots and have a higher confidence. SMB needs to work more with good defense and a good counter with every conversion from TNT players. A long way for this series and they need to keep working hard if they want to win.

Though TNT is really an improved team, William's presence is now bringing big impact, together with Erram, Rosario and Poguy coach Chot made this team more solid and very competitive.

If SMB's best player could not deliver an MVP  contribution, SMB will likely lose in the series. We need to see more from June Mar Fajardo in game 4, it's an important game as they are behind and they need to even the series to have a chance to win it. Maybe in game 4, I will try to put a bet on SMB 1st half win, I like to see them playing harder and win the first half again.
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It was a trap, SMB does not show their toughness in this game, they didn't even try to come back as the whole game ended up a well domination by the TNT.

We were not expecting that it's a trap, SMB did a great job on a comeback win in game 2 but they seem playing tired in game 3. Anyway, we can't change what happen but SMB still has game 4 to try to even the series and for sure they will make sure they will win and will not play catch-up game as they would usually lose on that scenario.

TNT played well, there's no question about that, and I agree with you, SMB seems tired the role players did not contribute that much. Still have another game to compete. Maybe they will try harder to beat TNT's system. Coach Leo needs to work with each player to be more competitive and not to allow TNT's stars to just keep taking shots and have a higher confidence. SMB needs to work more with good defense and a good counter with every conversion from TNT players. A long way for this series and they need to keep working hard if they want to win.

Though TNT is really an improved team, William's presence is now bringing big impact, together with Erram, Rosario and Poguy coach Chot made this team more solid and very competitive.

If SMB's best player could not deliver an MVP  contribution, SMB will likely lose in the series. We need to see more from June Mar Fajardo in game 4, it's an important game as they are behind and they need to even the series to have a chance to win it. Maybe in game 4, I will try to put a bet on SMB 1st half win, I like to see them playing harder and win the first half again.

JMF has returned from an injury, plus his mother died, so he is not 100% yet. if the Beermen are really a good team, this is the time to show some support to JMF and help the team to win so they could give this as a gift to JMF. SMB is still not out in the series, TNT still has to win 2 more games which looks easy now but once SMB found the best strategy, the advantage might be on them.



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