2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Russlenat]

Those who continue to believe that Ginebra is still a good team, certainly lose a lot of money already as Ginebra keeps losing. Meralco is not really a bad team though, so they can give Ginebra a big problem and we saw it because when the Ginebra rally, they still gas out in the 4th quarter and loss.

Look at the minutes played by 3 of the starters, this is not reasonable anymore, they are too desperate.

https://pba.ph/recap?match=1902622

Tenorio - 44:27
Pringle - 42:07
C. Stand - 40:45   

They are trying to win, but even starters have that number of mins without the chemistry they still unable to complete the chase.

The last chance against Phoenix will let them to try to make the final blow. If they will play the same way, then it's done with them. Remember that
last time they've met it was the last quarter snatch and Phoenix almost have it.

I'll be siding with them and bet, will try some luck.

It's not worth it to bet on Ginebra if they are playing with Japeth Aguilar and Scottie Thompson, that's 2 of the starters are missing, so they are not complete and they can't win against a healthy team.

Who knows, there's some pride that remains being the defending champ.

They still have that but it's not enough for them to win now.

By the way, we have a break today and the game will be in Saturday.

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[Fredomago]

Sorry I was wrong with the odds, I check my bet and it's only 5.25, but still thankful as it's a win. Good start today, I will still bet on the next game and I think it's going to be a close one.

here's my bet slip.

Congrats mate, that's a big win for you. TBH, I don't have the courage to bet on that kind of a market, I'd rather bet on ML than that one.

Bookies were blinded on this game, why they put Ginebra the favorites while the team struggles to win and to think Bolts is on the top of the standings.



I'm just curious now on what the future hold for the Gin Kings after this awful conference which on paper they are a very strong contender for the trophy.

I missed this out though that's good because I'll surely bet for Gin kings thinking that they will try harder but reading post and watching replays, there's nothing for them the chemistry are not working without Aguilar and Thompson nothing from the bench that can provide some sparks for coach Tim.

Just wondering, SMB almost lost with Alaska while NP without Greg they beat them with 28 points, seems that only the Hotshots is the one who's performing for SMC.

Maybe it's a setup or rigged Just for the laugh!

[Kelvinid]

Just wondering, SMB almost lost with Alaska while NP without Greg they beat them with 28 points, seems that only the Hotshots is the one who's performing for SMC.

Maybe it's a setup or rigged Just for the laugh!

Stop that rigged thing, lol.

Well, Ginebra really struggles, it's very evident in their games and I will bet against them in their game tomorrow.
There's only one game tomorrow and maybe I will consider betting on the Phoenix Fuelmasters to win by 11+.

I checked the bookies I used, no odds release yet, maybe in the evening, it will be up.

[Kasabus]

Just wondering, SMB almost lost with Alaska while NP without Greg they beat them with 28 points, seems that only the Hotshots is the one who's performing for SMC.

Maybe it's a setup or rigged Just for the laugh!

Stop that rigged thing, lol.

Well, Ginebra really struggles, it's very evident in their games and I will bet against them in their game tomorrow.
There's only one game tomorrow and maybe I will consider betting on the Phoenix Fuelmasters to win by 11+.

I checked the bookies I used, no odds release yet, maybe in the evening, it will be up.

We can check on different sportsbook, it's also not yet available here https://www.playbetr.com/sports

According to the official website, the game will be 22 hours from now, so it will be tomorrow. https://pba.ph/

Bad news for Ginebra as there's still no news that says Thompson or Japeth Might play, they will lose their center strength and I have a feeling that they will be abused by Manuel and Perkins down low, and not only him, there's also Chua.

[Hypnosis00]

I have a feeling that they will be abused by Manuel and Perkins down low, and not only him, there's also Chua.

I feel the same, so I would bet on the Phoenix fuel masters to win no matter what the odds are. And since Ginebra is a hype team, maybe we will see very good odds for the Fuel Masters in this game, I even like them to be an underdog and I'll consider it as a good opportunity to make easy money. (hopefully)

[bisdak40]

I have a feeling that they will be abused by Manuel and Perkins down low, and not only him, there's also Chua.

I feel the same, so I would bet on the Phoenix fuel masters to win no matter what the odds are. And since Ginebra is a hype team, maybe we will see very good odds for the Fuel Masters in this game, I even like them to be an underdog and I'll consider it as a good opportunity to make easy money. (hopefully)

Same here, with Japeth Aguilar and Scotie Thompson out, the Gin Kings will be having a hard time controlling the rebound and in this kind of situation, the team who controls the board usually wins.

Still, bookies have put the Kings as favorite huh, time to exploit these odds guys haha.

My bet for tomorrow Phoenix ML @2.36 boosted.

Good luck.

[Vaculin]

I have a feeling that they will be abused by Manuel and Perkins down low, and not only him, there's also Chua.

I feel the same, so I would bet on the Phoenix fuel masters to win no matter what the odds are. And since Ginebra is a hype team, maybe we will see very good odds for the Fuel Masters in this game, I even like them to be an underdog and I'll consider it as a good opportunity to make easy money. (hopefully)

Same here, with Japeth Aguilar and Scotie Thompson out, the Gin Kings will be having a hard time controlling the rebound and in this kind of situation, the team who controls the board usually wins.

Still, bookies have put the Kings as favorite huh, time to exploit these odds guys haha.

My bet for tomorrow Phoenix ML @2.36 boosted.

Good luck.

The line is already out, I can't believe that Ginebra is still the underdog.

I tried the "price boost" feature but I'm only getting 2.19, I think bettors are already putting their money on the Phoenix to win as they see the struggle of Ginebra in the past few games.

[Russlenat]

I have a feeling that they will be abused by Manuel and Perkins down low, and not only him, there's also Chua.

I feel the same, so I would bet on the Phoenix fuel masters to win no matter what the odds are. And since Ginebra is a hype team, maybe we will see very good odds for the Fuel Masters in this game, I even like them to be an underdog and I'll consider it as a good opportunity to make easy money. (hopefully)

Same here, with Japeth Aguilar and Scotie Thompson out, the Gin Kings will be having a hard time controlling the rebound and in this kind of situation, the team who controls the board usually wins.

Still, bookies have put the Kings as favorite huh, time to exploit these odds guys haha.

My bet for tomorrow Phoenix ML @2.36 boosted.

Good luck.

The line is already out, I can't believe that Ginebra is still the underdog.

I tried the "price boost" feature but I'm only getting 2.19, I think bettors are already putting their money on the Phoenix to win as they see the struggle of Ginebra in the past few games.

Don't need to be surprised mate, Ginebra is always a crowd favorite or the bettors favorite, lots of money will still flow for Ginebra especially from bettors who do not follow the update about the injury of Aguilar and Thompson. The defending champion will be eliminated soon and the TNT, Magnolia, and SMB will have bigger chance of winning the championship.

[Finestream]

In the previous game of the Ginebra Hypnosis00 won on the specials.

How about this time?

https://www.bitsler.com/en/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/29419372-barangay-ginebra-vs-phoenix-fuel-masters




Any takers here?

I see the odds are very attractive especially if you believe that Ginebra will tank again.

[carlisle1]

In the previous game of the Ginebra Hypnosis00 won on the specials.

How about this time?

https://www.bitsler.com/en/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/29419372-barangay-ginebra-vs-phoenix-fuel-masters




Any takers here?

I see the odds are very attractive especially if you believe that Ginebra will tank again.

Risk takers may take one or more from those available odds for Phoenix, who knows Ginebra gave it up and let things go end without a fight,

the never say die is no longer their for this team after acquiring CStan.
The chemistry after those many games didn't materialize for them. This might be the end of their journey to defend the title.

Again, it's just speculation, we don't know what's waiting when the game start maybe Pringle will spark and lead or CStan will bring
something surprising..

If there's still some gas to use, Ginebra needs it all for this game!

[Finestream]

In the previous game of the Ginebra Hypnosis00 won on the specials.

How about this time?

https://www.bitsler.com/en/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/29419372-barangay-ginebra-vs-phoenix-fuel-masters




Any takers here?

I see the odds are very attractive especially if you believe that Ginebra will tank again.

Risk takers may take one or more from those available odds for Phoenix, who knows Ginebra gave it up and let things go end without a fight,

the never say die is no longer their for this team after acquiring CStan.
The chemistry after those many games didn't materialize for them. This might be the end of their journey to defend the title.

Again, it's just speculation, we don't know what's waiting when the game start maybe Pringle will spark and lead or CStan will bring
something surprising..

If there's still some gas to use, Ginebra needs it all for this game!

Last game, Pringle, C. Stand, and Tenorio all played over 40 minutes, I can see the fatigue here and I think it's gonna be a low scoring game as the Ginebra despite being undermanned will try to win this game, however, trying is not enough if they missed two of their huge contributor.

[Kelvinid]

Last game, Pringle, C. Stand, and Tenorio all played over 40 minutes, I can see the fatigue here and I think it's gonna be a low scoring game as the Ginebra despite being undermanned will try to win this game, however, trying is not enough if they missed two of their huge contributor.

This is a good point, and probably I will take the under because the Ginebra will have to slow down here so these 3 players will not gas out in the end. It's just a one day rest and they are back again, worst is they are in a situation where they could be eliminated if they lose this game.

[mirakal]

Last game, Pringle, C. Stand, and Tenorio all played over 40 minutes, I can see the fatigue here and I think it's gonna be a low scoring game as the Ginebra despite being undermanned will try to win this game, however, trying is not enough if they missed two of their huge contributor.

This is a good point, and probably I will take the under because the Ginebra will have to slow down here so these 3 players will not gas out in the end. It's just a one day rest and they are back again, worst is they are in a situation where they could be eliminated if they lose this game.

The under is attractive because the line is only 176.5. In Ginebra's last game, they only made 66 points while Meralco made 79 points, so the total is only 145 points which is very low. I also check the odds now, and there's a movement already, Phoenix is down to +1.5 from its opening of +2.5. I would not surprise if the Phoenix will soon become the favorite in this game.

https://www.flashscore.com/basketball/philippines/

[bisdak40]

The under is attractive because the line is only 176.5. In Ginebra's last game, they only made 66 points while Meralco made 79 points, so the total is only 145 points which is very low. I also check the odds now, and there's a movement already, Phoenix is down to +1.5 from its opening of +2.5. I would not surprise if the Phoenix will soon become the favorite in this game.

Attractive indeed, I'm adding that bet right now, thanks for the tip. Odds at the moment are almost even and you are right in a few hours maybe we could see the Phoenix on the favorite side if the money continues to flow for Phoenix.

I have read some rumors (as this is not officially announced) on social media that Vic Manuel will not be playing because of apparent injury, i hope this is not true but even if it is, still the Phoenix squad still has the upper hand IMO.

[Fredomago]

The under is attractive because the line is only 176.5. In Ginebra's last game, they only made 66 points while Meralco made 79 points, so the total is only 145 points which is very low. I also check the odds now, and there's a movement already, Phoenix is down to +1.5 from its opening of +2.5. I would not surprise if the Phoenix will soon become the favorite in this game.

Attractive indeed, I'm adding that bet right now, thanks for the tip. Odds at the moment are almost even and you are right in a few hours maybe we could see the Phoenix on the favorite side if the money continues to flow for Phoenix.

I have read some rumors (as this is not officially announced) on social media that Vic Manuel will not be playing because of apparent injury, i hope this is not true but even if it is, still the Phoenix squad still has the upper hand IMO.

Seems decent with the under, if Ginebra will play the same cards  I also think that they comes out with low scoring game, just thinking about Phoenix if they will abused this and take every opportunities to score, that might change the direction

let see if how Ginebra will take this last chance either giving the game up or try the spirit of "never say die"

odd still with ginebra @ -2.5 @ 1.86 or ML @ 1.70. Good Luck Kabayans!

[bisdak40]

End of the first half and the score is 49-38 in favor of Ginebra  . Seems the never say die spirit is still there huh.

Matthew Wright was scoreless on a 0-7 field goal and as rumored, Vic Manuel didn't suit up for the game.

I Hope Phoenix would catch up in the next 24 minutes of play.

[Russlenat]

End of the first half and the score is 49-38 in favor of Ginebra  . Seems the never say die spirit is still there huh.

Matthew Wright was scoreless on a 0-7 field goal and as rumored, Vic Manuel didn't suit up for the game.

I Hope Phoenix would catch up in the next 24 minutes of play.

Ginebra won this game, Tim Cone made an experiment again and he can always rely on Caperal to contribute and not only he contribute, he has a big time contribution for the Gin Kings in the do or die game. He had 19 points in the game, and that made a difference compared to their previous games.

Going forward, I guess coach Tim will give him more minutes.

[Hypnosis00]

End of the first half and the score is 49-38 in favor of Ginebra  . Seems the never say die spirit is still there huh.

Matthew Wright was scoreless on a 0-7 field goal and as rumored, Vic Manuel didn't suit up for the game.

I Hope Phoenix would catch up in the next 24 minutes of play.

Ginebra won this game, Tim Cone made an experiment again and he can always rely on Caperal to contribute and not only he contribute, he has a big time contribution for the Gin Kings in the do or die game. He had 19 points in the game, and that made a difference compared to their previous games.

Going forward, I guess coach Tim will give him more minutes.

I'm hoping that they finally found the right formula to win, and that was what we called real teamwork.
Though it's still tough for them going forward without Thompson and Aguilar, at least that win was able to boost their morale.

Anyway, we have 2 games today.

Magnolia vs Rain or shine (2.34)
SMB vs North Port (2.49)

[Yamifoud]

Anyway, we have 2 games today.

Magnolia vs Rain or shine (2.34)
SMB vs North Port (2.49)

I guess it's hard to decide as the underdog teams here like the ROS and NorthPort are doing well this conference. however, since this is a playoffs already, I guess the better team will win and I would just bet on one game and that is on the SMB vs Northport and will pick SMB of course.

Even without Romeo who was injured _ https://www.rappler.com/sports/pba/san-miguel-beermen-guard-unit-crippled-terrence-romeo-hurts-foot
I guess the SMB will still be able to handle the hot North Port team.

[Sanitough]

Anyway, we have 2 games today.

Magnolia vs Rain or shine (2.34)
SMB vs North Port (2.49)

I guess it's hard to decide as the underdog teams here like the ROS and NorthPort are doing well this conference. however, since this is a playoffs already, I guess the better team will win and I would just bet on one game and that is on the SMB vs Northport and will pick SMB of course.

Even without Romeo who was injured _ https://www.rappler.com/sports/pba/san-miguel-beermen-guard-unit-crippled-terrence-romeo-hurts-foot
I guess the SMB will still be able to handle the hot North Port team.

Even without Romeo, SMB would be able to handle the Northport.

CJ Perez, Chriss Ross, and Marcio Lassiter, are looking great on the floor and Marcio Lassiter is healthy, so this team is still a championship team.
Remember that the core is still there, JMF is now healthy, and though Romeo did really well to the team, but before he joined the SMB, the team is already dominating the league.