2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Scripture]

What an upset, after Ginebra beat Bay area Dragons, now they lose to the Phoenix.

Best player of the game is Tyler Tio, I think this is his 2nd player of game award, and as a rookie, this guy really deserves the recognition.
Ginebra is very unpredictable now, they already have two losses this conference so far, can we still expect them to be a great contender of a championship?

The game was too close but Phoenix able to made good points to take a win and this should be a lesson for Ginebra not to be complacent. The way Phoenix have the lead on the early part of the game you can tell already that Ginebra was not that strong on this game. They can be a contender only if they are able to enter the semi-finals round, but for now they have to work on that consistently.

[Johnyz]

What an upset, after Ginebra beat Bay area Dragons, now they lose to the Phoenix.

Best player of the game is Tyler Tio, I think this is his 2nd player of game award, and as a rookie, this guy really deserves the recognition.
Ginebra is very unpredictable now, they already have two losses this conference so far, can we still expect them to be a great contender of a championship?

The game was too close but Phoenix able to made good points to take a win and this should be a lesson for Ginebra not to be complacent. The way Phoenix have the lead on the early part of the game you can tell already that Ginebra was not that strong on this game. They can be a contender only if they are able to enter the semi-finals round, but for now they have to work on that consistently.

Phoenix is not that bad, and Ginebra lose because of poor plays though, they are able to have some leads when Phoenix have a problem with turnover but Ginebra was not able to stay with that lead especially in the 4th quarter. I lose some bet since I thought Ginebra will enter into a winning streak after they won against Bay Area, now this is a big upset for them and I wonder as well if they can still have a chance to at least fight for the title.  

[jakelyson]

I read that June Mar Fajardo is injured and will miss a few games. Do you think he will be playing against the bay area dragons? I am anticipating that game and wanted to see how he will match up against the big men of the Dragons. It is bad timing that he got injured before that game.

As far as I know, JuneMar Fajardo is now ruled out*** for SMB against the Bay Area Dragons.

Really an unfortunate thing that happened as I want to see how the full SMB team will compete against the Dragons.

A bad timing now that Fajardo is seems returning to his MVP form, especially last conference.

That is quite unfortunate. I also wanted to see him play against the big man of bay dragons. Because of the short format of this conference, we might not see them play against the dragon until maybe semis or finals. Anyway, hopefully Junemar will be back in full force when he meets them in the future. It will be a good match for sure.

What an upset, after Ginebra beat Bay area Dragons, now they lose to the Phoenix.

Best player of the game is Tyler Tio, I think this is his 2nd player of game award, and as a rookie, this guy really deserves the recognition.
Ginebra is very unpredictable now, they already have two losses this conference so far, can we still expect them to be a great contender of a championship?

I was not able to watch the game but it was really upsetting and very unlikely of Ginebra. Are we being played by these teams? Are they also betting on online casinos, and they choose to win big than win on the game. This is just a theory but this happened in MPBL, hopefully it's not happening here in PBA.

[bisdak40]

I was not able to watch the game but it was really upsetting and very unlikely of Ginebra. Are we being played by these teams? Are they also betting on online casinos, and they choose to win big than win on the game. This is just a theory but this happened in MPBL, hopefully it's not happening here in PBA.

Haha, I think that just an upset win by Phoenix and a bad night for the Ginebra Kings, things like this always happened in the PBA in the early part of the tournament, and just like I said in my post months ago that betting for the underdogs this early in the elimination is a little bit profitable  .

Also heard about these rigged games in the MPBL which is why I don't bet on that league, doing dirty things in the MPBL might be possible as the players are not so popular that they are not afraid if caught unlike in the PBA that players are popular and earnings much more so being accused of rigging games might damage their reputations and earning potentials.

[Baofeng]

I was not able to watch the game but it was really upsetting and very unlikely of Ginebra. Are we being played by these teams? Are they also betting on online casinos, and they choose to win big than win on the game. This is just a theory but this happened in MPBL, hopefully it's not happening here in PBA.

Haha, I think that just an upset win by Phoenix and a bad night for the Ginebra Kings, things like this always happened in the PBA in the early part of the tournament, and just like I said in my post months ago that betting for the underdogs this early in the elimination is a little bit profitable  .

I wasn't able to watch the game as well and obviously, stunned to see the result. But if I bet on that game I will go with Ginebra and probably losing some sats right now. So congrats to those who bet on the underdog, for sure a good win and very profitable.

Also heard about these rigged games in the MPBL which is why I don't bet on that league, doing dirty things in the MPBL might be possible as the players are not so popular that they are not afraid if caught unlike in the PBA that players are popular and earnings much more so being accused of rigging games might damage their reputations and earning potentials.

True, I have nothing against MPBL, but it seems there are noises about rigging the games. It could be for their benefit or someone in the team is deliberately taking a dive. Anyhow, not betting on this league as well.

[agustina2]

I was not able to watch the game but it was really upsetting and very unlikely of Ginebra. Are we being played by these teams? Are they also betting on online casinos, and they choose to win big than win on the game.

Phoenix Fuelmasters just played well on that night. Not because it's Ginebra, they will automatically win the game. Don't underestimate the Phoenix and just because they win there's already magic done on that game. The Phoenix rookie even destroys the momentum of Justin Brownlee.

Brownlee is seen first time getting frustrated when someone is defending him. That Phoenix rookie did a good job on that.

[samcrypto]

I was not able to watch the game but it was really upsetting and very unlikely of Ginebra. Are we being played by these teams? Are they also betting on online casinos, and they choose to win big than win on the game.

Phoenix Fuelmasters just played well on that night. Not because it's Ginebra, they will automatically win the game. Don't underestimate the Phoenix and just because they win there's already magic done on that game. The Phoenix rookie even destroys the momentum of Justin Brownlee.

Brownlee is seen first time getting frustrated when someone is defending him. That Phoenix rookie did a good job on that.

Defending Brownlee will be the top priority and Phoenix did a great job on that though they didn't stop Brownlee that much but it helps them to generate more score and that's a winning strategy for Phoenix. Well, no more safe team here in PBA and every team can experience an upset and the next challenge for most of the team here is to beat Magnolia, we might be able to see that as we are near to enter the playoffs. Ginebra should adjust their game plays accordingly, it will be hard for them if they stay with their game play.

[chaser15]

I was not able to watch the game but it was really upsetting and very unlikely of Ginebra. Are we being played by these teams? Are they also betting on online casinos, and they choose to win big than win on the game.

Phoenix Fuelmasters just played well on that night. Not because it's Ginebra, they will automatically win the game. Don't underestimate the Phoenix and just because they win there's already magic done on that game. The Phoenix rookie even destroys the momentum of Justin Brownlee.

Brownlee is seen first time getting frustrated when someone is defending him. That Phoenix rookie did a good job on that.

Defending Brownlee will be the top priority and Phoenix did a great job on that though they didn't stop Brownlee that much but it helps them to generate more score and that's a winning strategy for Phoenix. Well, no more safe team here in PBA and every team can experience an upset and the next challenge for most of the team here is to beat Magnolia, we might be able to see that as we are near to enter the playoffs. Ginebra should adjust their game plays accordingly, it will be hard for them if they stay with their game play.

As I watched that game, seems we can't apply that possible manipulation applied on that game.

The officiating are fair for me and they played hard. Phoenix also can keep up on their offense and defense against Ginebra.

Unlikely performance for Ginebra but I think we should also congratulate Phoenix on winning that game.

[LogitechMouse]

I was not able to watch the game but it was really upsetting and very unlikely of Ginebra. Are we being played by these teams? Are they also betting on online casinos, and they choose to win big than win on the game.

Phoenix Fuelmasters just played well on that night. Not because it's Ginebra, they will automatically win the game. Don't underestimate the Phoenix and just because they win there's already magic done on that game. The Phoenix rookie even destroys the momentum of Justin Brownlee.

Brownlee is seen first time getting frustrated when someone is defending him. That Phoenix rookie did a good job on that.

As always, seeing either MVP or SMC team being defeated by an independent team makes me happy . Even the Bossing when they defeated the SMB, I was quite happy even though I'm a SMB fan because it shows that in this unbalanced league, there are still independent/farm teams that are still winning against these giant companies.

Fuelmasters have underrated players that they can developed and help the team. Tio, the second pick Serrano and even those veterans like Anthony, Azul and also Mocon who has 4 20+ point games already in this conference. The sad part only is the team will be sold soon.

The Ginebra already lost twice to independent teams and congratulations to the Phoenix as they already beat NLEX (MVP team) and Ginebra (SMC team).

[gunhell16]

What an upset, after Ginebra beat Bay area Dragons, now they lose to the Phoenix.

Best player of the game is Tyler Tio, I think this is his 2nd player of game award, and as a rookie, this guy really deserves the recognition.
Ginebra is very unpredictable now, they already have two losses this conference so far, can we still expect them to be a great contender of a championship?

That's the thing we don't know my friend, but if you look at it from another angle, they beat a tough team to beat the Bay Area Dragons, and then they lost to Phoenix which in fact and we look at it was easier to beat than Bay Area Dragons. But why did it happen, that's the question.

In my opinion, Ginebra will not be able to maintain the strong defense they did against the Bay Area Dragons and also the teamwork consistency, because if they can maintain that, for sure they will not lose to Phoenix, but even so, it looks like they will have a hard time in the next match them, I just hope it doesn't add disappointment to their supporters.

[Fredomago]

I was not able to watch the game but it was really upsetting and very unlikely of Ginebra. Are we being played by these teams? Are they also betting on online casinos, and they choose to win big than win on the game.

Phoenix Fuelmasters just played well on that night. Not because it's Ginebra, they will automatically win the game. Don't underestimate the Phoenix and just because they win there's already magic done on that game. The Phoenix rookie even destroys the momentum of Justin Brownlee.

Brownlee is seen first time getting frustrated when someone is defending him. That Phoenix rookie did a good job on that.

As always, seeing either MVP or SMC team being defeated by an independent team makes me happy . Even the Bossing when they defeated the SMB, I was quite happy even though I'm a SMB fan because it shows that in this unbalanced league, there are still independent/farm teams that are still winning against these giant companies.

Fuelmasters have underrated players that they can developed and help the team. Tio, the second pick Serrano and even those veterans like Anthony, Azul and also Mocon who has 4 20+ point games already in this conference. The sad part only is the team will be sold soon.

The Ginebra already lost twice to independent teams and congratulations to the Phoenix as they already beat NLEX (MVP team) and Ginebra (SMC team).

I was suprise with Gin kings laest loss, Phoenix was quitely playing the game with confidence with each other, sad to say that they are soon be sold to another franchise, but it was a good experienced and a boost for this team after beating Gin kings maybe they will now gaining that confidence to compete and win more games.

What an upset, after Ginebra beat Bay area Dragons, now they lose to the Phoenix.

Best player of the game is Tyler Tio, I think this is his 2nd player of game award, and as a rookie, this guy really deserves the recognition.
Ginebra is very unpredictable now, they already have two losses this conference so far, can we still expect them to be a great contender of a championship?

That's the thing we don't know my friend, but if you look at it from another angle, they beat a tough team to beat the Bay Area Dragons, and then they lost to Phoenix which in fact and we look at it was easier to beat than Bay Area Dragons. But why did it happen, that's the question.

In my opinion, Ginebra will not be able to maintain the strong defense they did against the Bay Area Dragons and also the teamwork consistency, because if they can maintain that, for sure they will not lose to Phoenix, but even so, it looks like they will have a hard time in the next match them, I just hope it doesn't add disappointment to their supporters.

Just another day for Gin kings, same with other teams losing is part of the game, they just need to move forward and try bouncing back then start winning again.

[harizen]

Just another day for Gin kings, same with other teams losing is part of the game, they just need to move forward and try bouncing back then start winning again.

It's like Ginebra was really eyeing to go a win against the Bay Area Dragons. The confidence is high, the eagerness is high, and the determination is high to the fact that facing a team as tough as Bay Area Dragons can really bring excitement as beating this team can erase the thoughts of their critics that they are nothing against this team.

Watching the early quarters of their game against Phoenix it seems that BGSM is just playing relaxed. Not saying they are comfortable to win but Phoenix also has the feeling I mentioned above as Ginebra is a tough team to beat. BGSM just become aggressive when they are still behind with a few minutes remaining on the regulations and as mentioned above, that's the first time Brownlee confronts a player defending him and that is even a rookie. As I watched the replay of that play, Brownlee should just let it go as that was part of the game. But since they are trying to catch up with the scores, maybe frustrations arise from him which is unusual for him.

There's also a play where Japeth Aguilar connects a shoulder right in front of the face of whom he is defending which is something that shouldn't happen. I don't know what happened to Ginebra but yes, as you said, just another day for a team that even a Favorite to win, upset can still happen. Phoenix on the other hand is not that weak to consider.

[Sanitough]

Just another day for Gin kings, same with other teams losing is part of the game, they just need to move forward and try bouncing back then start winning again.

It's like Ginebra was really eyeing to go a win against the Bay Area Dragons. The confidence is high, the eagerness is high, and the determination is high to the fact that facing a team as tough as Bay Area Dragons can really bring excitement as beating this team can erase the thoughts of their critics that they are nothing against this team.

Watching the early quarters of their game against Phoenix it seems that BGSM is just playing relaxed. Not saying they are comfortable to win but Phoenix also has the feeling I mentioned above as Ginebra is a tough team to beat. BGSM just become aggressive when they are still behind with a few minutes remaining on the regulations and as mentioned above, that's the first time Brownlee confronts a player defending him and that is even a rookie. As I watched the replay of that play, Brownlee should just let it go as that was part of the game. But since they are trying to catch up with the scores, maybe frustrations arise from him which is unusual for him.

There's also a play where Japeth Aguilar connects a shoulder right in front of the face of whom he is defending which is something that shouldn't happen. I don't know what happened to Ginebra but yes, as you said, just another day for a team that even a Favorite to win, upset can still happen. Phoenix on the other hand is not that weak to consider.

Ginebra was not undefeated coming to that game, so it's not surprising that they lose again IMO. Their first game, they also lose to the Rain or Shine, was even worst because Rain or Shine beat them by 22 points,  so you can tell that this team still has a little problem which I hope they'll be able to fix soon to achieve consistency.

[blockman]

Yes, he deserved it, we all know how good and hard-working Jason Castro is. I can still remember how he had performed last season in the finals for their last game. As much as we want to see him nailing the championship but it's not just enough.
What I'm thinking is that, when he retires, he'll be taken as part of coaching.

If he wasn't injured, the series would be more fun to watch.

Well, he still shows that he wants to make a difference despite of his situation but that's it.

About the coaching job, well, if he has that passion, then most likely he will become a coach, part of the coaching staff I mean. Jayson also has a business, so he could also focus on his business after retirement.

We can see his passion for the game and even after his retirement, there's a lot of space for him to get into any team through a coaching staff. But mostly, the TNT won't let him be taken by any other team.

[bisdak40]

Looks like we will be having an upset on tonight's game between the Meralco Bolts and Converge Fiberxers.

The score at the half is 48-68 with the Fiberxers leading and at the moment the ML odds for Meralco Bolts is @8.0.

That's very tempting but I won't bet that, I will take the handicap, for now, Meralco +13.5 @1.8.

BTW, the pre-game odds are Meralco 1.53, and Converge 2.48.

[goinmerry]

Looks like we will be having an upset on tonight's game between the Meralco Bolts and Converge Fiberxers.

The score at the half is 48-68 with the Fiberxers leading and at the moment the ML odds for Meralco Bolts is @8.0.

That's very tempting but I won't bet that, I will take the handicap, for now, Meralco +13.5 @1.8.

Yes, saw the PBA post at half-time where surprisingly Converge has a 20-point lead over the favorite Meralco. Actually, I'm not surprised if Converge has the lead at halftime but 20-points is really surprising knowing Meralco is one of the tough teams in the league.

But things changed in the 3rd quarter as Meralco cut downs the lead to at least 3 points 77-74 with 28 points scoring at Meralco over 8 points at Converge with 2 minutes remaining in the 3rd. The 3rd quarter finished with 87-82 Converge. What a run by Meralco.

Nice timing on that +13.5 Meralco. It has a chance.

[bisdak40]

Looks like we will be having an upset on tonight's game between the Meralco Bolts and Converge Fiberxers.

The score at the half is 48-68 with the Fiberxers leading and at the moment the ML odds for Meralco Bolts is @8.0.

That's very tempting but I won't bet that, I will take the handicap, for now, Meralco +13.5 @1.8.

Yes, saw the PBA post at half-time where surprisingly Converge has a 20-point lead over the favorite Meralco. Actually, I'm not surprised if Converge has the lead at halftime but 20-points is really surprising knowing Meralco is one of the tough teams in the league.

But things changed in the 3rd quarter as Meralco cut downs the lead to at least 3 points 77-74 with 28 points scoring at Meralco over 8 points at Converge with 2 minutes remaining in the 3rd. The 3rd quarter finished with 87-82 Converge. What a run by Meralco.

Nice timing on that +13.5 Meralco. It has a chance.

Nice timing indeed, now the Meralco is leading by a point in the fourth quarter with 6 minutes to go.

Too bad that i have not bet on that ML for Meralco at halftime, could have been a few dollars richer if I'm brave enough to take that one hehe.

edit:

Converge did upset Meralco but my first half bet for Meralco +13.5 won  .

[goinmerry]

Nice timing indeed, now the Meralco is leading by a point in the fourth quarter with 6 minutes to go.

Too bad that i have not bet on that ML for Meralco at halftime, could have been a few dollars richer if I'm brave enough to take that one hehe.

It's understandable, mate. Even if I'm on your feet, I won't consider betting on Meralco ML even if the odds went to @9. That was risky. Even if that's Meralco, we will think that it's risky to trust them to overcome that 20 points deficit and win at the end of the game.

You have to move on now on that bet as it's now close to happening haha. 99-97 Converge with less than a minute to go.

Congrats on the win on your bet, it's now a sure win.

[Japinat]

Nice timing indeed, now the Meralco is leading by a point in the fourth quarter with 6 minutes to go.

Too bad that i have not bet on that ML for Meralco at halftime, could have been a few dollars richer if I'm brave enough to take that one hehe.

It's understandable, mate. Even if I'm on your feet, I won't consider betting on Meralco ML even if the odds went to @9. That was risky. Even if that's Meralco, we will think that it's risky to trust them to overcome that 20 points deficit and win at the end of the game.

You have to move on now on that bet as it's now close to happening haha. 99-97 Converge with less than a minute to go.

Congrats on the win on your bet, it's now a sure win.

It turns out it was not a sure win because Converge won the game. I believe Meralco was the favorite on that game, looks like we have plenty of upsets in the past games so far, so is that the trend to follow?

Meanwhile, we have ROS vs TNT, looks like we now see a sure winner as TNT is already ahead by 18 points.

[Hypnosis00]

Meanwhile, we have ROS vs TNT, looks like we now see a sure winner as TNT is already ahead by 18 points.

TNT would win this game, another blowout win by TNT, thus far, TNT is the most consistent team now, waiting for the time to see them playing either SMB or Ginebra to see if they really are that strong. Oftana is such a huge steal by the TNT, this team is now becoming more dangerous specially outside.