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September 18, 2024, 04:16:12 PM
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When I learned that an attempt was made on Trump's life for the second time, I understood that the rival party definitely wants to get rid of him. Agree, two attempts to kill Trump make it clearer than any words how seriously they take his authority. And how much Trump's rivals fear that he will be elected president.
And the fact that he is getting out of these troubles for the majority only evokes associations of how worthy he really is of being the head of the US.
It is certainly difficult to predict the outcome of the US election. I look at various surveys but I can't say that they are all correct. Moreover, even if the surveys give an idea, it does not take time to change in reality. Not online survey but I will wait for that day. Many may remember that when Trump was first elected president, his opponent was more likely to win, but in the end, it did not. It will not be surprising if something like that happens this time too.

Various strategies are used in political parties based on elections. I think this could also be a plot to try to kill Trump. Through this act, people's emotions towards Trump can increase. Again the incident may be true. These issues are complicated for political leaders.

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September 18, 2024, 05:18:13 PM
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The high scale illegal migrants to the United States did not started today, this had been planned before now and we might be surprised that Harris could win this election since the Democrats have the system of manipulation in their own hands. They could easily device a means since they are already getting the signal that this election is not going to be the usual one since Trump is dominating and the assassination attempt has failed several times. Everyone is watching and if there could be any obvious manipulation in this election then I believe the media will publish it for the world to see.

Having tens of millions of illegal immigrants in your country is one thing, and refusing to make ID cards mandatory for voting is another. I don't think anywhere else in the world they have such crazy rules for elections. Here in India, people trying to vote without ID cards face a minimum of 3 months in prison. On the other hand, in the United States (which is supposed to be a "developed" nation), industrial scale vote rigging seems to be the norm. And let's not forget that a margin of a few tens of thousands of votes will decide the outcome in states such as Arizona and Wisconsin.

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September 18, 2024, 05:42:52 PM
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The high scale illegal migrants to the United States did not started today, this had been planned before now and we might be surprised that Harris could win this election since the Democrats have the system of manipulation in their own hands. They could easily device a means since they are already getting the signal that this election is not going to be the usual one since Trump is dominating and the assassination attempt has failed several times. Everyone is watching and if there could be any obvious manipulation in this election then I believe the media will publish it for the world to see.

Having tens of millions of illegal immigrants in your country is one thing, and refusing to make ID cards mandatory for voting is another. I don't think anywhere else in the world they have such crazy rules for elections. Here in India, people trying to vote without ID cards face a minimum of 3 months in prison. On the other hand, in the United States (which is supposed to be a "developed" nation), industrial scale vote rigging seems to be the norm. And let's not forget that a margin of a few tens of thousands of votes will decide the outcome in states such as Arizona and Wisconsin.

I wouldn't be surprised if they say this no ID card for voting is fake news. The Haitians eating pets and ducks news was even spread by the media as fake despite the number of videos and people telling it's true. This is why you can't expect this election to succeed when they know a cheat in the system is already laid before the day.
Regardless of who wins, people will be more divided, and Jan 6 could happen again even if Trump wins.

We are used to seeing the US having a perfect peaceful country but if this is happening already to them, it won't be long it will also happen to governments relying on US aid. 

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September 18, 2024, 05:43:14 PM
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When I learned that an attempt was made on Trump's life for the second time, I understood that the rival party definitely wants to get rid of him. Agree, two attempts to kill Trump make it clearer than any words how seriously they take his authority. And how much Trump's rivals fear that he will be elected president.
And the fact that he is getting out of these troubles for the majority only evokes associations of how worthy he really is of being the head of the US.
It is certainly difficult to predict the outcome of the US election. I look at various surveys but I can't say that they are all correct. Moreover, even if the surveys give an idea, it does not take time to change in reality. Not online survey but I will wait for that day. Many may remember that when Trump was first elected president, his opponent was more likely to win, but in the end, it did not. It will not be surprising if something like that happens this time too.

Various strategies are used in political parties based on elections. I think this could also be a plot to try to kill Trump. Through this act, people's emotions towards Trump can increase. Again the incident may be true. These issues are complicated for political leaders.
Seems the opponent party don't even want to give up on Trump any time soon, seeing that the only way that they could do to stop Trump is, if they take his life. Today I heard of a rumour about an explosive was discovered somewhere targeted at Trump rally ground, but I really don't know how true this is.
I had a source who predicted that there was gonna be a second assassination attempt on Donald Trump, after that very first one failed, Now the same source said they may target and try to blow up his plane and tag it a technical glitch.

This is no longer funny, how people would become so desperate about power and go extent to try to assassinate their opponent, bad.

 
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September 18, 2024, 06:33:30 PM
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The high scale illegal migrants to the United States did not started today, this had been planned before now and we might be surprised that Harris could win this election since the Democrats have the system of manipulation in their own hands. They could easily device a means since they are already getting the signal that this election is not going to be the usual one since Trump is dominating and the assassination attempt has failed several times. Everyone is watching and if there could be any obvious manipulation in this election then I believe the media will publish it for the world to see.

Having tens of millions of illegal immigrants in your country is one thing, and refusing to make ID cards mandatory for voting is another. I don't think anywhere else in the world they have such crazy rules for elections. Here in India, people trying to vote without ID cards face a minimum of 3 months in prison. On the other hand, in the United States (which is supposed to be a "developed" nation), industrial scale vote rigging seems to be the norm. And let's not forget that a margin of a few tens of thousands of votes will decide the outcome in states such as Arizona and Wisconsin.

There is no "industrial scale vote rigging" in America. Thats a lie. 

The only election related fraud that there has been in America related to federal elections was when trump tried to steal the 2020 election after he lost.  He was arrested for that and is awaiting trial.

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September 18, 2024, 07:10:49 PM
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Seems the opponent party don't even want to give up on Trump any time soon, seeing that the only way that they could do to stop Trump is, if they take his life. Today I heard of a rumour about an explosive was discovered somewhere targeted at Trump rally ground, but I really don't know how true this is.
I had a source who predicted that there was gonna be a second assassination attempt on Donald Trump, after that very first one failed, Now the same source said they may target and try to blow up his plane and tag it a technical glitch.

This is no longer funny, how people would become so desperate about power and go extent to try to assassinate their opponent, bad.

I don't like politics but I can confidently say that I'm old enough to understand how manipulative politicians can be. That shooting could be manipulation from both side, don't be surprised if Trump pro are pulling this because I could remember how some of them where trying to evade the legislative house, some of them were force down with force and it could be that this is Kamala fans that hate Trump but none of these candidates will risk their reputation to take down another candidate, politics is dirty.

It's very difficult to clamp down a government that is love by the people and the a lot of people still see Trump as bully candidate that don't watch his mouth before he make a statement. If they really want him, Biden wouldn't have the chance today as the President of the united state but here is another strong candidate Kamala people support and money will go with her. Give her the sit already.

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September 19, 2024, 01:56:53 AM
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Harris Vs Trump - Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election as a person who lived in foreign country for now I will vote for trump hahah this because his recent approach to cryptocurrency  I mean his approach to crypto and want to make crypto-friendly country is a good move in my opinion.

For now as a crypto user we also need a good government to support us and the United States is become a leader for other country in terms of economic we can see like ETF for btc when the SEC is finally agree than there is other country who started adapting bitcoin etf now Europe Canada and Australia has its own Bitcoin ETF

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September 19, 2024, 05:42:58 AM
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Seems the opponent party don't even want to give up on Trump any time soon, seeing that the only way that they could do to stop Trump is, if they take his life. Today I heard of a rumour about an explosive was discovered somewhere targeted at Trump rally ground, but I really don't know how true this is.
I had a source who predicted that there was gonna be a second assassination attempt on Donald Trump, after that very first one failed, Now the same source said they may target and try to blow up his plane and tag it a technical glitch.

This is no longer funny, how people would become so desperate about power and go extent to try to assassinate their opponent, bad.

I don't like politics but I can confidently say that I'm old enough to understand how manipulative politicians can be. That shooting could be manipulation from both side, don't be surprised if Trump pro are pulling this because I could remember how some of them where trying to evade the legislative house, some of them were force down with force and it could be that this is Kamala fans that hate Trump but none of these candidates will risk their reputation to take down another candidate, politics is dirty.

It's very difficult to clamp down a government that is love by the people and the a lot of people still see Trump as bully candidate that don't watch his mouth before he make a statement. If they really want him, Biden wouldn't have the chance today as the President of the united state but here is another strong candidate Kamala people support and money will go with her. Give her the sit already.

The way the United States use to vote in a president sure felt quite Democratic.  Just like with our constitution which was written with the US broke free from the Britian rule, and men were thinking more more clearly and in a legitimate manner.  Today, like you mention, it's very manipulative.  Not to mention the two party system is a mess.  It's hard to know which side to bet on.

Harris Vs Trump - Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election as a person who lived in foreign country for now I will vote for trump hahah this because his recent approach to cryptocurrency  I mean his approach to crypto and want to make crypto-friendly country is a good move in my opinion.

For now as a crypto user we also need a good government to support us and the United States is become a leader for other country in terms of economic we can see like ETF for btc when the SEC is finally agree than there is other country who started adapting bitcoin etf now Europe Canada and Australia has its own Bitcoin ETF

As an United States citizen I can promise you this will not be a deciding factor.  Trump is already coming out with his plans to get involved with cryptocurrency and it's as clear as it's always been to me, he has NO CLUE how bitcoin or cryptocurrency works.  Kamala is indirectly accepting bitcoin as one of her Super PACS excepts it..so she can't ever try and say she didn't know.  She seems to slowly be leaning in.

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Harris Vs Trump - Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election as a person who lived in foreign country for now I will vote for trump hahah this because his recent approach to cryptocurrency  I mean his approach to crypto and want to make crypto-friendly country is a good move in my opinion.

For now as a crypto user we also need a good government to support us and the United States is become a leader for other country in terms of economic we can see like ETF for btc when the SEC is finally agree than there is other country who started adapting bitcoin etf now Europe Canada and Australia has its own Bitcoin ETF
I would like Trump to continue to show attention and a positive attitude towards cryptocurrencies. After all, I am sure that Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are the future, traditional finance will not disappear because of this, but will only be an alternative. Digitalization is absorbing the minds of the younger generation and they will forget what cash is, because you can pay everywhere with your mobile phone. There is no need to stop cryptocurrency, because this is the future, and it is inevitable and will come sooner or later. Therefore, what Trump is doing makes me happy lately. And I was surprised that he paid for a burger today in a New York cafe, it's just awesome!

 
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September 19, 2024, 10:33:37 AM
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Harris Vs Trump - Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election as a person who lived in foreign country for now I will vote for trump hahah this because his recent approach to cryptocurrency  I mean his approach to crypto and want to make crypto-friendly country is a good move in my opinion.

For now as a crypto user we also need a good government to support us and the United States is become a leader for other country in terms of economic we can see like ETF for btc when the SEC is finally agree than there is other country who started adapting bitcoin etf now Europe Canada and Australia has its own Bitcoin ETF

I think at the end of the day it does nit matter what any single country thinks or does about Bitcoin.

Bitcoin does nit care about any of this. You can still use it.

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September 19, 2024, 10:58:06 AM
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I think at the end of the day it does nit matter what any single country thinks or does about Bitcoin.

Bitcoin does nit care about any of this. You can still use it.

And there will be another block in about ten minutes.

Just like the sun rises, a new block will be found.
I agree, no matter who becomes the president of the United States and will win this election, Bitcoin will continue to work on itself and will be adapted worldwide. While there can be some instances that a leader will definitely move the markets based on its decisions and policies towards Bitcoin but then, it's only limited to its jurisdiction and will continue to be traded, bought, sold and held on places where it is legal and don't have policies that are stopping people from having it. It seems that both of the candidates do have their own stance about Bitcoin but I'm looking forward that they're welcoming about it, afaik, Trump is and Harris don't have that much negative words about it as well.

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Harris Vs Trump - Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election as a person who lived in foreign country for now I will vote for trump hahah this because his recent approach to cryptocurrency  I mean his approach to crypto and want to make crypto-friendly country is a good move in my opinion.

For now as a crypto user we also need a good government to support us and the United States is become a leader for other country in terms of economic we can see like ETF for btc when the SEC is finally agree than there is other country who started adapting bitcoin etf now Europe Canada and Australia has its own Bitcoin ETF
I would like Trump to continue to show attention and a positive attitude towards cryptocurrencies. After all, I am sure that Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are the future, traditional finance will not disappear because of this, but will only be an alternative. Digitalization is absorbing the minds of the younger generation and they will forget what cash is, because you can pay everywhere with your mobile phone. There is no need to stop cryptocurrency, because this is the future, and it is inevitable and will come sooner or later. Therefore, what Trump is doing makes me happy lately. And I was surprised that he paid for a burger today in a New York cafe, it's just awesome!

He need to maximize what he can offer to people since if he let the game flow like this then provably that Harris will take over. I guess this is already happening and I think he's past controversy haunt him and his current friendly aura doesn't help him especially that their opponent is a woman and people maybe want to see some changes so provably that they might try to see a feminine touch of their country to see if their country will grow more with Harris.

But I really want to see what will happen under their term if Trump will fine its fine. Also if Harris will win then same goes with it since for sure lots of crypto people will monitor if they could able to see good growth of crypto especially that this coin has been mentioned when they try to campaign their selves and want to get the votes of people.

If they put a crypto crackdown for second time again that means they are a traditional politician which always tell a lie when they need something from their people, but when  delivering those what they promise they end up blind or deaf when listening to people sentiments regarding on those important topics they discuss before.

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He need to maximize what he can offer to people since if he let the game flow like this then provably that Harris will take over. I guess this is already happening and I think he's past controversy haunt him and his current friendly aura doesn't help him especially that their opponent is a woman and people maybe want to see some changes so provably that they might try to see a feminine touch of their country to see if their country will grow more with Harris.
Kamala Harris has 3.5 years to help her country growing more but what she did is contributions for destroying it, from border, immigration, national security, public health, economic and job market. If USA people want change, they will want someone else but surely they don't want Kamala Harris.

About positive poll results for Kamala Harris, they can be fake results.

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September 19, 2024, 01:26:31 PM
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Kamala Harris has 3.5 years to help her country growing more but what she did is contributions for destroying it, from border, immigration, national security, public health, economic and job market. If USA people want change, they will want someone else but surely they don't want Kamala Harris.

About positive poll results for Kamala Harris, they can be fake results.

The Vice President nominee JD Vance debunked it in an interview.
Watch this and let me know your opinion, no matter you agree with Vance or disagree with him.

I have the same feeling about the opinion polls. But the difference is that Democrats will use these polls for another purpose. There is going to be industrial scale vote rigging this time, especially with the absentee and mail-in ballots. In the end, voting patterns are going to be crazy. There are going to be instances such as 100% of absentee or mail in ballots in favor of Harris in some of the precincts. Precincts which had 100 or 200 mail-in ballots during the 2020 election will return 10x or 20x of that number this time. In real life scenario, such instances never happen, but the Dems will justify the rigged results with these fake opinion polls.

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September 19, 2024, 01:37:47 PM
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Harris is the lesser of both evils basically.
Not from the standpoint of bitcoin and crypto users/holders. I don't believe that Trump is genuinely interested in bitcoin or crypto aside from the fact that it can make him and his family some money. But I do believe that he wouldn't try to pass laws that would be contrary to the interests of the wider crypto and mining community. With Kamala and her side, I am sure she wouldn't bat an eye if we all burned and died due to her policies.

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I think at the end of the day it does nit matter what any single country thinks or does about Bitcoin.

Bitcoin does nit care about any of this. You can still use it.

And there will be another block in about ten minutes.

Just like the sun rises, a new block will be found.
I agree, no matter who becomes the president of the United States and will win this election, Bitcoin will continue to work on itself and will be adapted worldwide. While there can be some instances that a leader will definitely move the markets based on its decisions and policies towards Bitcoin but then, it's only limited to its jurisdiction and will continue to be traded, bought, sold and held on places where it is legal and don't have policies that are stopping people from having it. It seems that both of the candidates do have their own stance about Bitcoin but I'm looking forward that they're welcoming about it, afaik, Trump is and Harris don't have that much negative words about it as well.
I agree with that bold part. Bitcoin will continue to work on itself and more people will comes to Bitcoin especially if they see the increasing of Bitcoin price.
They will not thinks too long to join with other people because they don't want to miss the chance to make money from Bitcoin. But maybe the new president of the United States can gives a fresh air for Bitcoin and crypto so he/she will support the existence of crypto especially Bitcoin.
The election seems can moves the price to go somewhere but we better to prepare for anything that can happen.

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Apples to oranges. You think the republicans wouldn't pull this crap if Trump was the current president and make Alexa comment on Harris and stay quiet about Trump? This is the messed up world that we live in sadly.

I dunno, you tell me, did they pull such crap when he was the president? You do remember he was the president, right?

Has anyone seen that video with the guy asking Alexa questions about the upcoming US elections. First he asks for reasons why he should vote for Trump and Alexa says that it can't make recommendations on political candidates. He then asks why to vote for Kamala, and Alexa gives him a list of reasons. He asks why not to vote for Trump, and he gets plenty of feedback on that question. But when he asked Alexa why not to vote for Kamala, Alexa says it can't make negative comments on people or some crap like that.

It's unbelievable how much the elites are trying to influence the people to vote for Kamala. It makes you wish that she losses even if it doesn't have anything to do with you.

I wouldn't buy anything you see on videos. A lot of the stuff is staged in an attempt to make it viral and get more views.
I'm not using Alexa, so can't confirm if it's true or not, but I'm sure someone here could test it and confirm.

If true, I don't think that would necessarily be a result of the Democrats forcing Amazon to be biased, but more about their tach staff being militant left-wingers.

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I have the same feeling about the opinion polls. But the difference is that Democrats will use these polls for another purpose.
Seems like you only think the polls are rigged when you don't want them to be true. 

There is going to be industrial scale vote rigging this time, especially with the absentee and mail-in ballots. In the end, voting patterns are going to be crazy.
There is literally no evidence of industrial scale vote rigging ever happening, and no evidence democrats plan to try to rig anything.  When Trump loses, he says it's rigged.  That's what he does. 

There are going to be instances such as 100% of absentee or mail in ballots in favor of Harris in some of the precincts.
No there won't.   Trump might say there was.  But as usual, he will be lying.  If he loses or it comes down to one or two states, he might say a bunch of dead people voted like last time.  That was a lie then and it will be when he says it again.

He might pick a couple random election workers and call them "professional election scammers" like he did last time.  Proven Lies.

He might claim some international conspiracy with the voting machine company and a super secret algorithm that switches votes.  Lies.

He might claim that thousands of illegal immigrants voted against him again.  Lies.

He might claim that because it took some states longer than others to confirm the vote count that it was because he won by so much that they had to go and "find more votes".  Lies.

Will you continue to spread his lies?


Precincts which had 100 or 200 mail-in ballots during the 2020 election will return 10x or 20x of that number this time. In real life scenario, such instances never happen, but the Dems will justify the rigged results with these fake opinion polls.
None of the scenarios you've described happen in real life.



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Harris Vs Trump - Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election as a person who lived in foreign country for now I will vote for trump hahah this because his recent approach to cryptocurrency  I mean his approach to crypto and want to make crypto-friendly country is a good move in my opinion.
For now as a crypto user we also need a good government to support us and the United States is become a leader for other country in terms of economic we can see like ETF for btc when the SEC is finally agree than there is other country who started adapting bitcoin etf now Europe Canada and Australia has its own Bitcoin ETF
I think at the end of the day it does nit matter what any single country thinks or does about Bitcoin.
Bitcoin does nit care about any of this. You can still use it.
And there will be another block in about ten minutes.
Just like the sun rises, a new block will be found.

Well to that is true but we need government support like I said if there so many that regulate crypto I mean in a good way there is a high chance that bitcoin going to put in the good use people in the country can start donate via crypto for a good cause or heck citizen can pay its taxes via crypto that would be a great idea isn't.

I would like Trump to continue to show attention and a positive attitude towards cryptocurrencies. After all, I am sure that Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are the future, traditional finance will not disappear because of this, but will only be an alternative. Digitalization is absorbing the minds of the younger generation and they will forget what cash is, because you can pay everywhere with your mobile phone. There is no need to stop cryptocurrency, because this is the future, and it is inevitable and will come sooner or later. Therefore, what Trump is doing makes me happy lately. And I was surprised that he paid for a burger today in a New York cafe, it's just awesome!

That exactly, and I agree crypto could help the real world financially system and the traditional ways can stays. The age of digital sure gonna be hit the market.

If they put a crypto crackdown for second time again that means they are a traditional politician which always tell a lie when they need something from their people, but when  delivering those what they promise they end up blind or deaf when listening to people sentiments regarding on those important topics they discuss before.

Yeah crypto crackdown is bad and like really bad if say Bitcoin or other crypto banned in the US the whole world make also take decision aswell and can make the market shake.


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I have the same feeling about the opinion polls. But the difference is that Democrats will use these polls for another purpose.
Polls, surveys are very hard to conduct for getting good representative results for the whole population of a country. With bad methodology, results can be biased but if surveys, polls are conducted intentionally to distort results, we know results mean nothing, like Vance explained.

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There is going to be industrial scale vote rigging this time, especially with the absentee and mail-in ballots. In the end, voting patterns are going to be crazy. There are going to be instances such as 100% of absentee or mail in ballots in favor of Harris in some of the precincts. Precincts which had 100 or 200 mail-in ballots during the 2020 election will return 10x or 20x of that number this time. In real life scenario, such instances never happen, but the Dems will justify the rigged results with these fake opinion polls.
I believe that with what's going on, the Democrat Party will have less opportunities to rig this election. There are more attempts from Republic Party and USA citizens to report frauds in this election. These efforts won't eliminate all fraudulent attempts from Democrat Party but will reduce it severity. If things go well, I believe the Republic Party will win big in this election, when citizens already feel enough with Democrat Party and they want changes.

Not from the standpoint of bitcoin and crypto users/holders. I don't believe that Trump is genuinely interested in bitcoin or crypto aside from the fact that it can make him and his family some money. But I do believe that he wouldn't try to pass laws that would be contrary to the interests of the wider crypto and mining community.
He is a billionaire and knows well on how to make money. I don't believe in all he said but assume his family members actually have interest in Bitcoin and cryptocurrency market, they actually invested money in it. So Trump will not pass laws that affects chance of his family members to get richer.

 
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