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Author Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"  (Read 1153904 times)
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December 11, 2014, 09:22:23 PM
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What's your prediction on CLAMS price in the next few days folks? Did it already reach the max yesterday (not considering July peak) or it is just standing still a bit to reach ..... ?
Dooglus effect will still impact positively on this coin or it already did?
What do you feel?

I see it as long term growth Just-Dice has a huge capitalization as a service and Dooglus is fair and competent in all respects.
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December 11, 2014, 09:37:39 PM
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DO NOT DOWLOAD THE WINDOWS WALLET LINK FROM THE POST ABOVE MADE BY Monkeynutz.
IT IS A VIRUS.
remove his post please.
moderator mprep have been pm'ed. he was reported.
edit : the bad link was removed by OP. thanks.

Did Mods already take care of this issue?
I have crawled the above posts and do not see the post you refer to

-SuperCLAM

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December 11, 2014, 10:37:48 PM
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DO NOT DOWLOAD THE WINDOWS WALLET LINK FROM THE POST ABOVE MADE BY Monkeynutz.
IT IS A VIRUS.
remove his post please.
moderator mprep have been pm'ed. he was reported.
edit : the bad link was removed by OP. thanks.

Did Mods already take care of this issue?
I have crawled the above posts and do not see the post you refer to

-SuperCLAM

   I think they got the original post.  I quoted it, but removed the link once I saw the warning...  Should be all good.... 

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December 12, 2014, 12:22:16 AM
Last edit: December 12, 2014, 01:27:19 AM by almightyruler
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Syncing a virgin db, and clamd seems to be getting "stuck" on orphan blocks...

ERROR: ProcessBlock() : duplicate proof-of-stake (COutPoint(31c8d98ed4, 1), 1409328810) for orphan block ab81478d442bbc067c091b86ddd81d8c415b7fba4cea652a78f7549a515b70a8
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK 751, prev=ab81478d442bbc067c091b86ddd81d8c415b7fba4cea652a78f7549a515b70a8
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : duplicate proof-of-stake (COutPoint(4b4c0aacd4, 2), 1409328811) for orphan block e9f85e1f3d10894e42aa0982b22e1a1a74d3c22e1847adc2b801fdbd70fea9f6
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK 751, prev=e9f85e1f3d10894e42aa0982b22e1a1a74d3c22e1847adc2b801fdbd70fea9f6
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : duplicate proof-of-stake (COutPoint(df96fd5846, 1), 1409328935) for orphan block 331a1a344def2ff02b76726b37a5ad1cc03af2f9c85b084ba31de073a9cf09f0
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK 751, prev=331a1a344def2ff02b76726b37a5ad1cc03af2f9c85b084ba31de073a9cf09f0
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : duplicate proof-of-stake (COutPoint(d93414f7d2, 1), 1409328928) for orphan block f09b4a9d0f0d1d060b256805248696fc38ecf9ff26c06119d653af9b3bb7a656
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK 751, prev=f09b4a9d0f0d1d060b256805248696fc38ecf9ff26c06119d653af9b3bb7a656
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : duplicate proof-of-stake (COutPoint(3f2c6d206d, 1), 1409329004) for orphan block 6795a64418eb9b18880e4d7ec125552be3ff73d8f9de7f825ebc311d276d02ec
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK 751, prev=6795a64418eb9b18880e4d7ec125552be3ff73d8f9de7f825ebc311d276d02ec
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : duplicate proof-of-stake (COutPoint(7b54b4e3b6, 1), 1409329082) for orphan block a9ad274839def4b39c0d2e8a44fa14f9d15a7665f37f202d1f9ab80edf56fc85
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK 751, prev=e8be94c3aa50abd60dbe64dde7b76672b5a97c8d4ec50da9afa9b70dc10f3550
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : duplicate proof-of-stake (COutPoint(770d08c5c8, 1), 1409335177) for orphan block ebb678b09629ae0657500521b73aafd4fa66f441458a14c70380c0ca05eccfbb


At this point it's just a bunch of "ORPHAN BLOCK 751" messages, although the block hashes for each seem to be different. It doesn't seem to be accepting new blocks. Is the client hitting some sort of limit? I have to stop and restart it in order for it to accept more network blocks. Once it hits 751 orphan blocks it gets stuck again. This has happened about 5 times now.

The phrase "ORPHAN BLOCK 751" currently appears 51327 times in my debug log. Now on 6th restart.
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December 12, 2014, 04:11:57 AM
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Im still confused of how the clams wallet will know of my btc , ltc , and doge? With just syncing the wallet. Do I have to do something to get it to know to get clams?
You have to import your wallet.dat file or the private keys of your BTC, LTC or DOGE into the CLAMclient. If you are completely new to crypto and just wish to sell then you may prefer to use just-dice.com to claim your CLAMs. For more help please visit the IRC channel: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=clams

Just-Dice FAQ: https://just-dice.com/#faq
CLAMclient Import: http://clamclient.com/#/import/

Long Live the Great CLAM!
this is will help me how to get my clam...thank for this
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December 12, 2014, 12:18:53 PM
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My little amateur analysis on the price : it should go up as gamblers lose their CLAM and need to buy more to keep playing on j-d. The CLAM they lost will be hoarded in the j-d bankroll.

More CLAM will be diged and will supply a portion of the demand but think the price will go up as the demand for CLAM grows from the people who want to invest more in the j-d bankroll, want to play or understand the dynamics and buy CLAM to make a profit.

On one hand, the price went up from 0.0005 to 0.004 but 0.01 will be reached again within months, 0.005-0.006 could become a floor in Early 2015 and we may see 0.02 and up in 2015.

On the other hand, maybe a big bitcoin website has tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of addresses with CLAM. If it digs them and dumps them on the market, we will be lucky to sustain 0.0015 Grin

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December 12, 2014, 12:33:32 PM
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The challenge for every POS coin is getting people to use/buy&sell the coin rather than just hoarding it in a wallet. With a 1% house edge JD allows quite a bit of fluidity - some people will cash out coins, others will buy to play - it's win-win.

One of the major "risks" with CLAM would be that nobody digs them up and a limited supply could dry up. We NEED lots of CLAMs to be dug up for the long-term future of the coin. Even if that means temporary dips in the market price Wink
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December 12, 2014, 01:13:23 PM
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Please vote! 

Go big or go home.

http://okcoin.uservoice.com/forums/276787-coins/suggestions/6831869-consider-adding-clamcoin

They removed our last vote Cry O well.  Don't spoof vote please!

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December 12, 2014, 02:07:13 PM
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What is the conversion rate from BTC, LTC & DOGE to CLAM? In other words, how many CLAMs do you get for your BTC, LTC & DOGE? Was scanning & searching the thread but missed it.
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December 12, 2014, 02:16:19 PM
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What is the conversion rate from BTC, LTC & DOGE to CLAM? In other words, how many CLAMs do you get for your BTC, LTC & DOGE? Was scanning & searching the thread but missed it.

I'll do market for market.

So for example with DOGE I use Crytpsy bid price and Polo ask price.

I'm in Just-dice.com chat box generally.

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December 12, 2014, 02:19:04 PM
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What is the conversion rate from BTC, LTC & DOGE to CLAM? In other words, how many CLAMs do you get for your BTC, LTC & DOGE? Was scanning & searching the thread but missed it.

There is no direct conversion.

It doesn't matter how many btc/ltc of doge you had.  An address with 1M btc would get the same ~4.6 CLAM's as an address with .0001 btc. Any address that was over dust for the respective coin (.0001 for ltc and btc, .1 for doge) were all given the same amount.

Unless you mean current trading value, then of course, there is a conversion as BAC said

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December 12, 2014, 02:27:52 PM
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What is the conversion rate from BTC, LTC & DOGE to CLAM? In other words, how many CLAMs do you get for your BTC, LTC & DOGE? Was scanning & searching the thread but missed it.

There is no direct conversion.

It doesn't matter how many btc/ltc of doge you had.  An address with 1M btc would get the same ~4.6 CLAM's as an address with .0001 btc. Any address that was over dust for the respective coin (.0001 for ltc and btc, .1 for doge) were all given the same amount.

Unless you mean current trading value, then of course, there is a conversion as BAC said

Gotcha, thanks. I meant the first part, not the trading rate.
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December 12, 2014, 03:24:22 PM
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finally i can claim my CLAM Grin Grin Grin Grin
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December 12, 2014, 07:21:15 PM
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Thanks for all those clams! Free money, what a world Grin

Will be staking going forward.
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December 12, 2014, 07:39:13 PM
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The challenge for every POS coin is getting people to use/buy&sell the coin rather than just hoarding it in a wallet. With a 1% house edge JD allows quite a bit of fluidity - some people will cash out coins, others will buy to play - it's win-win.

One of the major "risks" with CLAM would be that nobody digs them up and a limited supply could dry up. We NEED lots of CLAMs to be dug up for the long-term future of the coin. Even if that means temporary dips in the market price Wink

I agree with you that there needs to be more clams dug up. Maybe changing it to award 2-3 people 1 clam every minute or let it scale to something like difficulty. THere should never be a machine though thats able to generate clams like sha256 or other altcoin algorithms. Unique coins like POS is what the altcoin industry needs since everything else is just copies
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December 12, 2014, 08:02:35 PM
Last edit: December 12, 2014, 10:04:08 PM by infovortice2013
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hi i just upgrade wallet last version, take 16 conections but keep unsynck and normal sincronizing bar not appear, but i can see my 7 clams coins in wallet

is running good?


--solved : i download bootstrap.dat restart wallet and start to sync normally
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December 12, 2014, 10:21:20 PM
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The challenge for every POS coin is getting people to use/buy&sell the coin rather than just hoarding it in a wallet. With a 1% house edge JD allows quite a bit of fluidity - some people will cash out coins, others will buy to play - it's win-win.

One of the major "risks" with CLAM would be that nobody digs them up and a limited supply could dry up. We NEED lots of CLAMs to be dug up for the long-term future of the coin. Even if that means temporary dips in the market price Wink

I agree with you that there needs to be more clams dug up. Maybe changing it to award 2-3 people 1 clam every minute or let it scale to something like difficulty. THere should never be a machine though thats able to generate clams like sha256 or other altcoin algorithms. Unique coins like POS is what the altcoin industry needs since everything else is just copies

I don't think changing the award would be a good idea. The coin just needs to be more used, the current price makes it likely that a lot more clams will be dug up.
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December 12, 2014, 10:41:08 PM
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hi i just upgrade wallet last version, take 16 conections but keep unsynck and normal sincronizing bar not appear, but i can see my 7 clams coins in wallet

is running good?


--solved : i download bootstrap.dat restart wallet and start to sync normally

I did the same but syncs very slowly. This happen for anyone else? Been a few hours and im at almost 50% only. I have 100mbps internet connection on a fast desktop.
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December 12, 2014, 11:20:04 PM
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Okay, I'm not buying Just Dice as the reason for the CLAM price growth. Who even uses that site? The main CLAM site is a random Wordpress theme with pictures that don't even match the branding of the coin (looks to just be the default theme pics).

Welcome to the CLAM thread.



The CLAM website isn't run on WordPress.... it is run on Ghost.
We are volunteers; if you believe you can create a better website, we more than welcome your contribution.



I don't personally pretend to have a crystal-ball that can predict nor explain markets.
However, the answer to: "Who even uses that site?" is likely a rather long answer.
Just-Dice has a long history of large bank-rolls and met obligations.



More detail than the above, will likely have to be discovered and researched by yourself.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147
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December 12, 2014, 11:57:55 PM
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Okay, I'm not buying Just Dice as the reason for the CLAM price growth. Who even uses that site?

Check the balance of CLAM address [xJDCLAMZ] (if you can - I don't know of a good way, but would like to)

It currently has 137,935 CLAMs.

The Just-Dice wallet currently shows:

$ clamd getstakinginfo | grep -e weight -e expect
    "weight" : 125057.90652447,
    "netstakeweight" : 169232.88858409,
    "expectedtime" : 99

ie. it has 125k of the total network weight of 169k.

If you put your CLAMs in the Just-Dice bankroll you get a share of the staking rewards. The site wallet has staked 3544 blocks since it started holding CLAMs less than a week ago.

Maybe you need to revise your purchasing decision.

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