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October 01, 2014, 06:57:06 AM
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we have 4 kind of coins here

scamcoin -> shitcoin -> altcoin -> bitcoin

It should be 5

scamcoin -> shitcoin -> altcoin -> burst coin -> bitcoin

u forgot about monero too Smiley

A good coin resurrected from the scampit by the community. I like it and BURST as my two favorites.

I am cpu mining monero before burst...
after burst come...
I need those cpu to create burst plot !
so I stopped mining monero...
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October 01, 2014, 06:59:46 AM
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i think the next break through for burst will be file storage.

no, i think it should replace torrent! imagine you can be paid by serving data!
because for file storage google drive is enough for me

Only if the miner can control what is stored. Illegal file storage would be just what the governments need to shut down an alt and arrest people en masse, especially the DEV.

did they arrest Bram Cohen because he invent torrent?
i think he got award for that
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October 01, 2014, 07:01:48 AM
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i think the next break through for burst will be file storage.

no, i think it should replace torrent! imagine you can be paid by serving data!

Check http://storj.io/ and http://driveshare.org/   Wink .

those are not funky because it can't be mined... (or did i was wrong ?)

No I think you can't mine it , but you can earn it if you  offer storage data Wink. It's the level up of burstcoin  ....
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October 01, 2014, 07:03:31 AM
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we have 4 kind of coins here

scamcoin -> shitcoin -> altcoin -> bitcoin

It should be 5

scamcoin -> shitcoin -> altcoin -> burst coin -> bitcoin

u forgot about monero too Smiley

A good coin resurrected from the scampit by the community. I like it and BURST as my two favorites.

I am cpu mining monero before burst...
after burst come...
I need those cpu to create burst plot !
so I stopped mining monero...

I mine it and BURST at the same time. I have two rigs with haswells and using NVIDIA 750TIs and 660TIs and ccminer. Slapped 32 GB of RAM in them and they just roll on 24/7.

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October 01, 2014, 07:04:57 AM
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i think the next break through for burst will be file storage.

no, i think it should replace torrent! imagine you can be paid by serving data!
because for file storage google drive is enough for me

Only if the miner can control what is stored. Illegal file storage would be just what the governments need to shut down an alt and arrest people en masse, especially the DEV.

did they arrest Bram Cohen because he invent torrent?
i think he got award for that

Look what the US did to Mega. Kim Dotcom got shafted out of his multi-million enterprise. If he had been in the USA instead of New Zealand he would have been locked away.

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October 01, 2014, 07:09:07 AM
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i think the next break through for burst will be file storage.

no, i think it should replace torrent! imagine you can be paid by serving data!

Check http://storj.io/ and http://driveshare.org/   Wink .

those are not funky because it can't be mined... (or did i was wrong ?)

No I think you can't mine it , but you can earn it if you  offer storage data Wink. It's the level up of burstcoin  ....

and the payment is not good, because you pay for some capacity on provider storage, not on what you actually used.
on burst you paid for each bytes you use, its cheaper, its more redundant in burst network, and its not centralized!
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October 01, 2014, 07:11:46 AM
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i think the next break through for burst will be file storage.

no, i think it should replace torrent! imagine you can be paid by serving data!

Check http://storj.io/ and http://driveshare.org/   Wink .

those are not funky because it can't be mined... (or did i was wrong ?)

No I think you can't mine it , but you can earn it if you  offer storage data Wink. It's the level up of burstcoin  ....

and the payment is not good, because you pay for some capacity on provider storage, not on what you actually used.
on burst you paid for each bytes you use, its cheaper, its more redundant in burst network, and its not centralized!

Also bitcoin is not centralized  Roll Eyes ( I'm joking  Grin ) ... However if the value of burstcoin in the various exchanges not raise I will think  the burstcoin will die.
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October 01, 2014, 07:12:10 AM
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i think the next break through for burst will be file storage.

no, i think it should replace torrent! imagine you can be paid by serving data!
because for file storage google drive is enough for me

Only if the miner can control what is stored. Illegal file storage would be just what the governments need to shut down an alt and arrest people en masse, especially the DEV.

did they arrest Bram Cohen because he invent torrent?
i think he got award for that

Look what the US did to Mega. Kim Dotcom got shafted out of his multi-million enterprise. If he had been in the USA instead of New Zealand he would have been locked away.

they are out of context because they are centralized, unlike torrent
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October 01, 2014, 07:23:13 AM
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i think the next break through for burst will be file storage.

no, i think it should replace torrent! imagine you can be paid by serving data!

Check http://storj.io/ and http://driveshare.org/   Wink .

those are not funky because it can't be mined... (or did i was wrong ?)

No I think you can't mine it , but you can earn it if you  offer storage data Wink. It's the level up of burstcoin  ....

and the payment is not good, because you pay for some capacity on provider storage, not on what you actually used.
on burst you paid for each bytes you use, its cheaper, its more redundant in burst network, and its not centralized!

Also bitcoin is not centralized  Roll Eyes ( I'm joking  Grin ) ... However if the value of burstcoin in the various exchanges not raise I will think  the burstcoin will die.

Bitcoin is down too. Pretty much for the whole year.

If bitcoin price goes back to 600 - 800 by year end. I am sure burst price will raise. in fact, most good alt coin price will raise with bitcoin
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October 01, 2014, 07:34:35 AM
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we have 4 kind of coins here

scamcoin -> shitcoin -> altcoin -> bitcoin

It should be 5

scamcoin -> shitcoin -> altcoin -> burst coin -> bitcoin

so anything started with B is good, anything started with S is stupid !
Stellar is shitcoin, Bitshares is good

Bitshares is going to DIE. BURST has a chance of prospering. Bitcoin will always live. NXT will always live. Litecoin will die. What other coins are there?

Ripple dies, doge - no comment
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October 01, 2014, 08:26:09 AM
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I think what needs to be done first and foremost is a more user-friendly wallet and miner. People are having ENTIRELY too many problems with both. 632 pages on this ANN, and the majority of the content is about pool problems, mining issues, and wallet issues. Do people not understand that this is one of the first places that investors go to find out information about the coin they're thinking of investing in? Literally HUNDREDS of pages in this ANN shouldn't technically exist here, they should be on the Burst coin forum, under technical issues or something. FFS people, I want this coin to win, and you're scaring all the potential big fish away!! NO amount of features, or services, or promotions, or any kind of PR, are going to help this coin if setting up the mining is too difficult or if too many people can't get their damn wallet to work properly. This coin could be beautiful....the perfect wave on a perfect day man. The first HDD mineable coin, the third coin to ever offer mining on a different piece of hardware. The only other 2 I know of is Bitcoin and Litecoin, CPU and GPU mining. You guys have something extraordinary here. Be extraordinary!! And for the love of God, or whichever deity you may worship, PLEASE stop scaring the damn fish away!! lol Thank you for your time, and happy trading everyone! Shadey out. Cheesy

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October 01, 2014, 08:28:13 AM
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we have 4 kind of coins here

scamcoin -> shitcoin -> altcoin -> bitcoin

It should be 5

scamcoin -> shitcoin -> altcoin -> burst coin -> bitcoin

so anything started with B is good, anything started with S is stupid !
Stellar is shitcoin, Bitshares is good

Bitshares is going to DIE. BURST has a chance of prospering. Bitcoin will always live. NXT will always live. Litecoin will die. What other coins are there?

Ripple dies, doge - no comment

your crystal ball is very pessimistic about the future right?  Wink
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October 01, 2014, 08:34:42 AM
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we have 4 kind of coins here

scamcoin -> shitcoin -> altcoin -> bitcoin

It should be 5

scamcoin -> shitcoin -> altcoin -> burst coin -> bitcoin

so anything started with B is good, anything started with S is stupid !
Stellar is shitcoin, Bitshares is good

Bitshares is going to DIE. BURST has a chance of prospering. Bitcoin will always live. NXT will always live. Litecoin will die. What other coins are there?

Ripple dies, doge - no comment

your crystal ball is very pessimistic about the future right?  Wink

What's so pessimistic?
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October 01, 2014, 08:40:36 AM
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we have 4 kind of coins here

scamcoin -> shitcoin -> altcoin -> bitcoin

It should be 5

scamcoin -> shitcoin -> altcoin -> burst coin -> bitcoin

so anything started with B is good, anything started with S is stupid !
Stellar is shitcoin, Bitshares is good

Bitshares is going to DIE. BURST has a chance of prospering. Bitcoin will always live. NXT will always live. Litecoin will die. What other coins are there?

Ripple dies, doge - no comment

your crystal ball is very pessimistic about the future right?  Wink

What's so pessimistic?

the word "die" doesn't really sound optimistic, does it? Smiley
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October 01, 2014, 08:41:27 AM
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I think what needs to be done first and foremost is a more user-friendly wallet and miner. People are having ENTIRELY too many problems with both. 632 pages on this ANN, and the majority of the content is about pool problems, mining issues, and wallet issues. Do people not understand that this is one of the first places that investors go to find out information about the coin they're thinking of investing in? Literally HUNDREDS of pages in this ANN shouldn't technically exist here, they should be on the Burst coin forum, under technical issues or something. FFS people, I want this coin to win, and you're scaring all the potential big fish away!! NO amount of features, or services, or promotions, or any kind of PR, are going to help this coin if setting up the mining is too difficult or if too many people can't get their damn wallet to work properly. This coin could be beautiful....the perfect wave on a perfect day man. The first HDD mineable coin, the third coin to ever offer mining on a different piece of hardware. The only other 2 I know of is Bitcoin and Litecoin, CPU and GPU mining. You guys have something extraordinary here. Be extraordinary!! And for the love of God, or whichever deity you may worship, PLEASE stop scaring the damn fish away!! lol Thank you for your time, and happy trading everyone! Shadey out. Cheesy


Yes , you're right . Now it's the time to think about the value and to promote better this altcoin Wink .
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October 01, 2014, 08:43:21 AM
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we have 4 kind of coins here

scamcoin -> shitcoin -> altcoin -> bitcoin

It should be 5

scamcoin -> shitcoin -> altcoin -> burst coin -> bitcoin

so anything started with B is good, anything started with S is stupid !
Stellar is shitcoin, Bitshares is good

Bitshares is going to DIE. BURST has a chance of prospering. Bitcoin will always live. NXT will always live. Litecoin will die. What other coins are there?

Ripple dies, doge - no comment

your crystal ball is very pessimistic about the future right?  Wink

What's so pessimistic?

the word "die" doesn't really sound optimistic, does it? Smiley

It's too centralized, it can't survive in my books, not while supposedly being backed by usd.
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October 01, 2014, 08:45:39 AM
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we have 4 kind of coins here

scamcoin -> shitcoin -> altcoin -> bitcoin

It should be 5

scamcoin -> shitcoin -> altcoin -> burst coin -> bitcoin

so anything started with B is good, anything started with S is stupid !
Stellar is shitcoin, Bitshares is good

Bitshares is going to DIE. BURST has a chance of prospering. Bitcoin will always live. NXT will always live. Litecoin will die. What other coins are there?

Ripple dies, doge - no comment

your crystal ball is very pessimistic about the future right?  Wink

What's so pessimistic?

the word "die" doesn't really sound optimistic, does it? Smiley

It's too centralized, it can't survive in my books, not while supposedly being backed by usd.
I totally agree with you on that.
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NXT based
POS removed
No IPO
No Premine
4 minute block time
2,158,812,800 coins total
Block reward starts at 10,000/block, then decreases 5% each month (similar to halving every 14 months, but much smoother)
Uses pocminer made for this coin

http://burstcoin.info(in progress)
https://burstforum.com/



Downloads:
Wallet: 1.1.3 https://mega.co.nz/#!e15TQRCZ!k043rrfCzkTofW0ICbfq_j269x9zYTShOs2KdWAtaT0
sha256: 201a8491f33c03ffad2d7f9c43f14a6a287e146c8d0a7ac2ae3581f8f8831fcf
Github: https://github.com/BurstProject/burstcoin

After running wallet, access it through a web browser at http://localhost:8125

When upgrading wallet, move burst_db folder into new wallet folder to avoid re-downloading the blockchain.

POCMiner: https://mega.co.nz/#!b0pzHajA!ERk068l5NS6kR7zdLdTgltqyPw3Z60lwAWvgXtNQNTk
sha256: fba1ba039fb94868f452c9724002cb85dc7a635384c2cef395cd1578e7031cac
Github: https://github.com/BurstProject/pocminer

Windows mining guide: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8298999#msg8298999 (thanks to KSpinner)
Linux mining guide: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8299637#msg8299637 (thanks to TetraHect0rCannabinol)

dcct's plot tools(faster generator, plot optimizer, c miner): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8879760#msg8879760
Janror's cpu plotter(sse4/avx2): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8878839#msg8878839
bipben's gpu plotter: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8800462#msg8800462

Gui mining system: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=771063.0

Plot range checker: https://bchain.info/BURST/tools/overlap (thanks to dcct)

Experimental windows mining gui: http://burst.today

Pool Mining:

warning: there is no standard protocol for pools at this time, so different pools require different miners.

dev's pools
v2 pool. allows you to use solo plots: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8604606#msg8604606
v1 pool, requires you generate plots for this pool only usable there: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8448276#msg8448276

uray's v2 pools(allows solo plots):
http://burst-pool.cryptoport.io/
http://burst-pool2.cryptoport.io/

fanepatent's v2 pool(allows solo plots)(based on uray's source):
http://burstpool.ddns.net/

koko2530's v2 pool(allows solo plots)(based on uray's source):
http://cryptomining.farm/

IRC:
Freenode: #burstcoin

Multi-pools:
BurstMultipool.com many algorithms
BurstMP.com scrypt only

Shares of burstmultipool being sold on burst asset exchange(id: 11375670541237055652) to fund purchasing of scrypt-n fpgas.

Mining Calculator:
https://bchain.info/BURST/tools/calculator

Block Explorer:
http://burst.cryptoport.io/


Bounty:
none currrently



https://github.com/BurstProject/burstcoin
https://github.com/BurstProject/pocminer



abctc's NXT burst gateway(discontinued): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8381305#msg8381305



https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_burst

https://bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-BURST

Please vote:
https://hitbtc.com/vote
https://bter.com/voting

Markets:
Simple market: http://burstcoin.info/market



Burst uses a new algorithm for proof of hdd capacity (POC) mining. Miners pre-generate chunks of data known as 'plots' which are then saved to disk. The number of plots you store is effectively your mining speed. Every block the miner will skim through the saved plots, and come up with an amount of time until it is able to mine a block if another block hasn't yet been found. After reading through the plots is complete, your hardware can idle until the block. The miner will be released a few hours before launch to give miners time to start generating plots.



Miners generate and cache chunks of data known as 'plots', which are divided into 4096 portions known as 'scoops'.
Plots are generated by taking a public address and a nonce, then hashing it, pre-appending the resulting hash, repeating the hash-pre-append cycle many times, and then hashing the whole thing and xor'ing the last hash with the whole thing.
Plots are staggered together so chunks of the same scoop number are together, then written to disk.
Each block has a generation signature which is derived only from the previous block's generation signature and miner, so it is difficult to manipulate.
When mining, the scoop number to be used for a block is derived from the generation signature and the block height, so the miner reads all relevant scoops(each plot will have 1 relevant scoop, and staggering allows for larger sequential read with less seeking) Only 0.024% of the stored data will need to be read each block.
The generation signature is hashed with each scoop. 8 bytes are taken from the hash, then divided by a scaling factor(inverse difficulty)
The resulting number is a number of seconds. If that many seconds passes since the last block without a new one, the address/nonce combination used to generate that plot/scoop is eligable to announce a new block.
The miner's hardware can just sit idle until either that time or a new block.
The address/nonce is included in the block as proof of eligability, and the block is signed by that address.

Technically, this mining process can be mined POW-style, however mining it as intended will yield thousands of times the hashrate, and your hardware will sit idle most of the time. Continuously hashing until a block is found is unnecessary, as waiting long enough will cause any nonce to eventually become valid.

Shoddily made flow chart of the general process. Does not include caching plot to disk and retrieving them:




Basic pool support (done)
Improved pool support (done)
Advanced transactions(escrow, subscription, reserve funds then transfer not yet known portion later)
BurstId authentication system
Allow linking BurstId to burst account for transfers with spending limits.
DHT for off-chain services
Off-chain encrypted messaging and voip between burstid accounts
File storage(disclaimer: still figuring out a good way to do this. this will take a while.)



Announcements:
2014/09/27 New version release 1.1.3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8988688#msg8988688
2014/09/14 New version release 1.1.2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.10040
2014/09/13 Stuck transactions statement: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8809198#msg8809198
2014/09/13 New version release 1.1.1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8803319#msg8803319
2014/09/09 New version release 1.1.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8741673#msg8741673
2014/08/31 V2 pool now up https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8604606#msg8604606
2014/08/27 New version release 1.0.3: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8550499#msg8550499
2014/08/20 Pool now up: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8448276#msg8448276
2014/08/17 New version release 1.0.2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8404060#msg8404060
2014/08/16 Statement regarding the difficulty adjustment: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8387248#msg8387248
2014/08/11 The pool situation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8302521#msg8302521

please make something like cloud mining which uses online storage so we don't need to use our hard disk
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please make something like cloud mining which uses online storage so we don't need to use our hard disk

This coin looks like a very similar concept to storj, this isn't released yet, but they plan on making it a decentralised cloud.

http://storj.io/
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This coin looks like a very similar concept to storj, this isn't released yet, but they plan on making it a decentralised cloud.

http://storj.io/

Yes check also  http://driveshare.org/  but  I think is  in beta now...
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