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October 05, 2014, 01:06:55 PM
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Hi,

Just wanted to let you know I have created a service for live monitoring of monero price: http://moneromarkets.com/

Its faster than the poloniex-site. Only supports poloniex today, but will add others if anyone requests it.






This good, having a faster way of seeing the current price is one of the features I was going to push towards, though your 6 hour chart doesn't seem to be working for me.

It works fine on Chrome, Firefox, iPad and iPhone, though Internet Explorer 11 causes the recent orders chart to display incorrectly.

Will you add the numbers to show how much volume it is that the volume bars represent?

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October 05, 2014, 02:17:16 PM
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Hi,

Just wanted to let you know I have created a service for live monitoring of monero price: http://moneromarkets.com/

Its faster than the poloniex-site. Only supports poloniex today, but will add others if anyone requests it.






This good, having a faster way of seeing the current price is one of the features I was going to push towards, though your 6 hour chart doesn't seem to be working for me.

It works fine on Chrome, Firefox, iPad and iPhone, though Internet Explorer 11 causes the recent orders chart to display incorrectly.

Will you add the numbers to show how much volume it is that the volume bars represent?

Yes will add that. Please let me know if you have more feature requests. I put a first version with a minimum of features so that I only implement features that's usable to people.



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October 05, 2014, 02:35:12 PM
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down we go, where is the buy support, where are the walls ?  Undecided
hard times for xmr holders, good time to buy i think if u have fiat

BBR Buy Orders: 230 BTC
XMR Buy Orders: 145 BTC

WTF.  Has this ever happened before?

Because BBR is backed by the master scammer JL777 or whatever is his nick.

Don't, please.

I like to think of XMR and BBR as "brother" coins. Some amount of rivalry is fine, but slander isn't the way to go.

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October 05, 2014, 02:51:02 PM
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Hi,

Just wanted to let you know I have created a service for live monitoring of monero price: http://moneromarkets.com/

Its faster than the poloniex-site. Only supports poloniex today, but will add others if anyone requests it.

This good, having a faster way of seeing the current price is one of the features I was going to push towards, though your 6 hour chart doesn't seem to be working for me.

It works fine on Chrome, Firefox, iPad and iPhone, though Internet Explorer 11 causes the recent orders chart to display incorrectly.

Will you add the numbers to show how much volume it is that the volume bars represent?

Yes will add that. Please let me know if you have more feature requests. I put a first version with a minimum of features so that I only implement features that's usable to people.

It is a great start.  I suspect most of the things I'd look for are already in your plans.  (settings for bar width other than 6 hours, start-end date for historical views, order book depth, etc)

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October 05, 2014, 09:25:36 PM
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down we go, where is the buy support, where are the walls ?  Undecided
hard times for xmr holders, good time to buy i think if u have fiat

BBR Buy Orders: 230 BTC
XMR Buy Orders: 145 BTC

WTF.  Has this ever happened before?

Because BBR is backed by the master scammer JL777 or whatever is his nick.

Don't, please.

I like to think of XMR and BBR as "brother" coins. Some amount of rivalry is fine, but slander isn't the way to go.

haha Smiley where are these friendly words when Risto is attacked for backing XMR?

jl777 told me he used to own 1% of all xmr but dumped it all for bbr because he disliked the XMR community, he is now a man wanted by law for his fraudulent schemes

major BBR holder is an anonymous scammer.

no one knows who BBR dev is and 1% of coins goes to him, plus its marketing campaign and major supporters bash Monero on regular basis, its sickening

things do not look good for BBR.

there goes your brotherly coins.



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he is now a man wanted by law

you're a liar and have lost credibility.

has anyone noticed 50btc down to 250 on the order books?
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October 05, 2014, 09:32:57 PM
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Let's keep the discussion of personalities and other coins to a minimum unless there is a direct tie-in to Monero speculation
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October 05, 2014, 09:45:59 PM
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Hi,

Just wanted to let you know I have created a service for live monitoring of monero price: http://moneromarkets.com/

Its faster than the poloniex-site. Only supports poloniex today, but will add others if anyone requests it.


You could add HitBtc, since there is 30% of Moneros traded. I wonder if you could combine them together? That would cover 80-90% volume.

About price all says Sunday is best day for buying alts. And Monero always proved worse at beginning of month.

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October 05, 2014, 10:59:22 PM
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Let's keep the discussion of personalities and other coins to a minimum unless there is a direct tie-in to Monero speculation

XMR and BBR are substitute goods.  Discussing one without the other is like discussing platinum while ignoring palladium:



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October 05, 2014, 11:05:34 PM
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Let's keep the discussion of personalities and other coins to a minimum unless there is a direct tie-in to Monero speculation

XMR and BBR are substitute goods.  Discussing one without the other is like discussing platinum while ignoring palladium:


That sort of analysis is relevant and fine as long a it doesn't get repetitive (support via evidence from the markets would make it even better). Accusations of some person somewhat associated with another coin being a criminal are too far afield, at least until and unless it becomes more than baseless speculation
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October 06, 2014, 09:47:41 AM
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Overall, I would keep the mentioning of coins that are and belong to further than TOP-30 at a minimum. Not only this is a Monero thread, but also any mention of shitcoins, scamcoins, copycoins, p&d-coins, and fly-by-night coins may make some people buy into them, even with a small amount, and thus perpetuate their existence.

PLEASE, I come to Monero threads to get to speak about Monero. Just that other coins exist is not a reason to let them be discussed here.
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To be discredited to a clown troll like you is a honor, I would feel ashamed if you agreed with me, as it goes against your trollgenda.

now go give money jl777 his 2mm USD are not enough, he now needs to hide in Cambodia for the rest of his life.

I've seen you present no evidence about jl777.  Unless you bring evidence to the table that someone is a thief when making an accusation (especially a high profile name) - you are simply a clown.  I dislike Jl777 & supernet to the highest degree.  But I don't baselessly accuse without any evidence. 

Has anyone noticed that XMR seems poised to take a dramatic down or upturn?  Any volume seems to move it alot.  A 30btch buy or dump would significantly move the needle.  I can't help but think it's poised to drop into the low 20's or back into the mid 30's.
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To be discredited to a clown troll like you is a honor, I would feel ashamed if you agreed with me, as it goes against your trollgenda.

now go give money jl777 his 2mm USD are not enough, he now needs to hide in Cambodia for the rest of his life.

I've seen you present no evidence about jl777.  Unless you bring evidence to the table that someone is a thief when making an accusation (especially a high profile name) - you are simply a clown.  I dislike Jl777 & supernet to the highest degree.  But I don't baselessly accuse without any evidence. 

Has anyone noticed that XMR seems poised to take a dramatic down or upturn?  Any volume seems to move it alot.  A 30btch buy or dump would significantly move the needle.  I can't help but think it's poised to drop into the low 20's or back into the mid 30's.

It's Cryptsy's next project. New Exchange Syndrome could see it rise for an all time high, if not the high 0.0090s.

Unlikely to go down now. There would need to be a good reason for it to do so.
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October 06, 2014, 05:40:28 PM
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Unlikely to go down now. There would need to be a good reason for it to do so.

The mechanism for going down requires everybody to simultaneously decide that the current level is too high. If there is even one who thinks otherwise, it does not go down.

Going up is much different. A few, even just one, people deciding to buy, make it go up.
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October 06, 2014, 05:48:08 PM
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Unlikely to go down now. There would need to be a good reason for it to do so.

The mechanism for going down requires everybody to simultaneously decide that the current level is too high. If there is even one who thinks otherwise, it does not go down.

Going up is much different. A few, even just one, people deciding to buy, make it go up.

Actually not sure this is quite the case.  One sell of 35 bitcoins would bring us down significantly last time I saw.

Depending on one persons financial status & their confidence in bitcoin this could cause a significant discount to curernt prices.
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Unlikely to go down now. There would need to be a good reason for it to do so.

The mechanism for going down requires everybody to simultaneously decide that the current level is too high. If there is even one who thinks otherwise, it does not go down.

Going up is much different. A few, even just one, people deciding to buy, make it go up.
I can't believe you really think that..
I perceive most of real XMR supporters as quite intelligent, and you being the executive of MEW should think a bit longer before writing nonsense.

   
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Unlikely to go down now. There would need to be a good reason for it to do so.

The mechanism for going down requires everybody to simultaneously decide that the current level is too high. If there is even one who thinks otherwise, it does not go down.

Going up is much different. A few, even just one, people deciding to buy, make it go up.
I can't believe you really think that..
I perceive most of real XMR supporters as quite intelligent, and you being the executive of MEW should think a bit longer before writing nonsense.

There is some truth to it given that the mechanism for mining set up something like a continuous auction where everyone (including the original miner) bids for each block. In that sense I would slightly disagree with the original comment. There need to be two people who agree with a price in order to sustain it, not just one, because otherwise the high bidder can bid less and still win.

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October 06, 2014, 06:22:42 PM
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are you developer or support & PR manager of monero?

you seem to post here 10+ hours a day. when is time to code left in between all that support and pr?

any ETA on the Monero GUI? ty!

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are you developer or support & PR manager of monero?

you seem to post here 10+ hours a day. when is time to code left in between all that support and pr?

I only sleep a few hours a day and I often multitask between doing other work (both Monero and non-Monero related). I have a large multimonitor setup so I can many windows open and switch between them frequently. Some of my posts are from mobile too.

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Unlikely to go down now. There would need to be a good reason for it to do so.

The mechanism for going down requires everybody to simultaneously decide that the current level is too high. If there is even one who thinks otherwise, it does not go down.

Going up is much different. A few, even just one, people deciding to buy, make it go up.
I can't believe you really think that..
I perceive most of real XMR supporters as quite intelligent, and you being the executive of MEW should think a bit longer before writing nonsense.

There is some truth to it given that the mechanism for mining set up something like a continuous auction where everyone (including the original miner) bids for each block. In that sense I would slightly disagree with the original comment. There need to be two people who agree with a price in order to sustain it, not just one, because otherwise the high bidder can bid less and still win.


Most of the coins are not in the hands of miners, and I think the market mechanics are quite detached from what you are suggesting. Risto can decide alone that he doesn't like Monero anymore, and cash out. Good luck to all of us thinking the current price is fair..  
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Unlikely to go down now. There would need to be a good reason for it to do so.

The mechanism for going down requires everybody to simultaneously decide that the current level is too high. If there is even one who thinks otherwise, it does not go down.

Going up is much different. A few, even just one, people deciding to buy, make it go up.
I can't believe you really think that..
I perceive most of real XMR supporters as quite intelligent, and you being the executive of MEW should think a bit longer before writing nonsense.

There is some truth to it given that the mechanism for mining set up something like a continuous auction where everyone (including the original miner) bids for each block. In that sense I would slightly disagree with the original comment. There need to be two people who agree with a price in order to sustain it, not just one, because otherwise the high bidder can bid less and still win.

Most of the coins are not in the hands of miners, and I think the market mechanics are quite detached from what you are suggesting. Risto can decide alone that he doesn't like Monero anymore, and cash out. Good luck to all of us thinking the current price is fair.. 

I disagree for this reason. As long as the continuous auction is going on, it is a price setting process and other trading must agree with it, since you can't have more than one market price in the same market at the same time. What may happen is if that Risto decides he doesn't like Monero, that decision and actions he may subsequently take based on that decision may in turn convince everyone (or all but one person) that a lower price is more appropriate. But as long as two people steadfastly believe the price should be X, then the price will be at least X.


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