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1261  Other / Meta / Re: Are we pissing in the wind? Is the fight winnable? on: September 20, 2018, 11:05:50 PM

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Just create 6 account, make lots of posts to reach Jr.Member, Abrakadabra, he/she will get same stakes with "legendary" rank. (That's just example, how easy to get a lot of money in this forum)

I think main problem in this forum is, so easy to create multiple accounts!

What's your opinion if the rules are changed to "One Person One Account"? And should to pass KYC?


Totally agree - multiple account for signature bounty are the worst pain in the ass... that's why raising the merit level is good but not for long time it will kick off small hunters but hundreds of BIG HUNTERS with dozens of account probably find the way to buy merit pay someone to write posts (It's all about money - as long profits are higher than costs they will probably find a solution) etc...  unless merit level will be raised to really high rank but it wouldn't be fair for regular users...

KYC for joining the forum I'm not sure maybe verification via SMS at first (using hundred of simcards wouldn't stop but surely complicate using mutliple accounts)



Read The Cypherpunks and Bitcoin. The years before bitcointalk. and look up Libertarianism.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

...and you'll understand why KYC will never...ever...happen. Unless forced by gunpoint or at threat of imprisonment perhaps being the exceptions.

KYC will be the end of the beginning.
1262  Other / Meta / Re: Applying to be a merit source on: September 20, 2018, 02:27:47 PM
Wow. I miss out 4 days, and theymos actually does something, Meta becomes worse than off-topic board, and a global mod's alt runs out of merits. Wow.

Aren't you a merit source in the main account?


Anybody want to explain me what the fuck is going on meta other than just garbage nonsense complaining? Just when I thought bitcointalk couldn't get any worse in terms of incessant bitching.

I'm still trying to figure it out myself.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5033661.msg45945129#msg45945129

Although I do have some clues: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5031060.msg45856323#msg45856323

...and if you are not good at clues... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5030366.0
1263  Other / Meta / Re: Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny on: September 20, 2018, 02:20:46 PM


Doesn't know what bitcoin is but mysteriously knows he needs something called merit here haha.

I guess we can file this user under the someone just told them they can earn money here category.

He needs some blockchain™ flavored merit sauce.

Give him a break - he is only asking about bitcoin so he can start writing about it to inform others.  Roll Eyes
1264  Other / Meta / Re: now, many newbie was sort out i think on: September 20, 2018, 02:12:30 PM
Wow - that is a surprise. I haven't seen any posts about this, is this something new? Smiley Smiley

I agree with you Jet Cash ! I haven't seen any other posts or threads about that in Meta.

Not quite sure what the OP is talking about.
1265  Other / Meta / Re: Hunt for the no merit highest post count record. 0 Merit 2792 posts on: September 20, 2018, 10:23:48 AM

THis one is beating the OP but not Zaarin



That is the one from the OP - he has just posted more today !



Some of the stats are out of date too. We know that ain't true about Phinnaeus Gage
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=24792
1266  Other / Meta / Re: LoyceV's deMerit source application on: September 20, 2018, 10:09:33 AM
Yes - I want to apply as a deMerit source too. I'm even happy to give some of my own merits back to become one.
1267  Other / Meta / Re: Oh! Xandry , you are leading the wrong list on: September 20, 2018, 09:58:44 AM
I totally understand that anyone can get mistaken and Merit plagiarized posts and then later may find out it was not originally written by the OP, but I'm really surprised after seeing this:


Xandry had Merited almost every single post of this guy that got deleted later on. And, the time-frame between those Merits is even more surprising. I don't mean to blame him either, but people should probably be careful for these things if they are doing them by mistake.

Read this thread and you'll understand.
Merit for helping on moderating the forum
He gave merit for reporting rule-breakers.
That reporter turned out a rule breaker themselves.
They no longer give merit for reporting rule breakers.
1268  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: To hell with regulations and government interference on: September 20, 2018, 09:50:34 AM


We need no regulations.  We need no KYC.  We need no ETF's.  What we need to do is show the world why Bitcoin is better than government FIAT and let Bitcoin take over that way.  We have a real shot at gaining freedom of finances however it seems most are tripping over themselves to give all that away to the government as quickly as possible.


Reading that read like the lyrics of a Pink Floyd song !

We don't need no regulation
We don't need no KYC
No coin promoters in the courtroom
Governments leave them ICOs alone
Hey! Governments! Leave them coins alone
All in all it's just another brick in the wall
All in all you're just another brick in the wall

But in all seriousness - no-one in their right mind WANTS regulations and Government interference but it is going to happen and when it happens you are better working with them to make good legislation than to just wait it out and see what idiotic ideas they come up with.

Centralized exchanges will get regulated - A LOT. Governments want their cut of the profits. Work with the regulations rather than against them until there is a system that they are unable to regulate.

Until decentralized exchanges really exist - there is a risk to privacy coins.

I really hope that someone will take my suggestion of wallet-swap seriously. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5001019.msg45130945#msg45130945

It would make the exchange really peer to peer and trust would only have to exist in the open source code.




1269  Other / Meta / Re: Hunt for the no merit highest post count record. 0 Merit 2792 posts on: September 20, 2018, 09:02:14 AM

I feel so tempted of giving one just to break the record muhahhahaah

It would still be the record until a higher post count is found.  Grin

Good luck finding a post worth meriting between all the bounty reports. Jestcash found one....
1270  Other / Meta / Re: The bitcointalk academy awards - best shit-poster fables to obtain merit on: September 20, 2018, 08:50:12 AM
But really,  why is that a turn off for you?  I mean maybe that's where he can post best.

I gave you a merit for that. It made me stop and think that my action is counter-productive. I'm not against the alt boards, after all, I've got them on ignore. What I am opposed to are the bounty hunters who infest the main boards with low value spam. If we can persuade the alt posters to stay on their own boards, then that is beneficial to the forum in my opinion.

I've given it a bit of leeway and not been too fussy on giving merit to newbies - looking for a reason to give it rather than looking for reasons not to give it. As long as they don't appear to be just bounty report posters or low quality posters I have ranked some up. Hopefully encouraging them to improve their post quality. I do check all their post history.

But I also have no intention to set a record and get on this list: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsendban
1271  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Zaif hacked for $60 million on: September 20, 2018, 08:44:43 AM
Zaif token price dropped quite a lot after the news came out of $60 million hack :O



The trading activity on the 18th looks like someone might have known and was dumping some already. There was a slow and steady increase in volume.
1272  Other / Meta / Hunt for the no merit highest post count record. 0 Merit 3139 posts on: September 20, 2018, 08:18:37 AM


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1463210

Does this guy hold the record or is there a higher no merit post count somewhere ?

EDIT: We have a new record:



Here's the highest you will find:
Zaarin
3139 posts, zero merit.


tumis is impressive too with 1 merit and 3348 posts.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1773383

This one, but he got that 1 merit ... I'll hunt for more... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1773383
1273  Other / Meta / Re: My only gripe with the merit system... Edits aren't addressed. on: September 20, 2018, 07:43:24 AM
I've noticed that if I have left someone a merit immediately after their post, only to have them edit it to something that may not be as agreeable of an opinion within the (10 minute?) time frame, there is no evidence at all the new edited post wasn't the originally merited opinion.

I think it might be a nice feature if merits given to posts had some soft of distinguishing feature if the post has been edited after the merit has been left, even if it was within the time frame to not show an edit.  Perhaps the merit distributor's name could be changed to a different color?

You are describing a different flaw in the merit system.

Merits should be given based on the effort put into the post, not based on your agreement with the content of the post.


While merit should be given based on the quality of the post I agree with OgNasty that when a post is altered after it is merited it can give the false impression that the person who merited agrees with the post.

Something can be well written but if I disagree with the contents I would not want my name associated with it by meriting it. On this basis I agree totally with what OgNasty said. (Unless he edits his post after I post this to something different)  Shocked
1274  Other / Meta / Re: Oh! Xandry , you are leading the wrong list on: September 20, 2018, 07:37:36 AM
Look like some of you guys did took this heading in some kind of "hatred " way or trying to "defame" the staff Xandry.

I just wanted to share the the news of new stats available , and Xandry  name is known to me because some topics created earlier on him , so I just used it as headline, I do not put any allegation.

Merit sources and moderators can get fooled too.  Getting fooled doesn't make them any less effective.

Might be people give merit for good content but later found that other user plagiarized the content or some other content. Only fools are those that get banned for breaking the rules.

People often try to make the moderators look bad.  Xandry is well respected and liked as a moderator by the majority of the people that regularly post in Meta.
1275  Other / Meta / Re: The bitcointalk academy awards - best shit-poster fables to obtain merit on: September 20, 2018, 07:26:11 AM


Not Fan of Merit Point System

Government announce illegal due to peoples losing their money due to scams and frauds and bitcoin makes heaven for scammers.

You are not the only one who bankrupt a lot others also has the same situation. This is because you follow the hype and do not research properly that is why you bankrupt otherwise peoples are still making money.

I have no idea why he has no merit. These are the two posts I found that are not bounty reports.



When your alt farm becomes noobs
1276  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Two EOS Gambling Platforms Fall Prey to $260,000 Hack on: September 20, 2018, 07:00:44 AM


EOSBet got hacked after mocking their competitor for getting hacked.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/blockchain-betting-app-mocks-competitor-for-getting-hacked-gets-hacked-four-days-later/

It pays not to be too cocky. If it runs software and is connected to the internet  - it can get hacked. The only thing you can do to prevent hacks is have good detection and make it uneconomic to hack. (Removing the incentives)
1277  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Zaif hacked for $60 million on: September 20, 2018, 06:48:53 AM
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On the same day Greek authorities were arresting Vinnik, a team of researchers that also included Google staffers, presented findings at the Black Hat USA 2017 security conference, revealing that 95 percent of all ransomware ransom payments were cashed out and converted into fiat currency through Vinnik's BTC-e portal.

Also on the same day, a group of Bitcoin security specialists calling themselves WizSec published the results of an investigation that linked Vinnik's Bitcoin accounts to laundering funds stolen from the Mt. Gox exchange.

Researchers said that Vinnik was also involved in laundering funds stolen from other cryptocurrency exchanges, such as Bitcoinica, Bitfloor, and other platforms they did not name at the time.

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US authorities said in an indictment that Vinnik's platform helped launder over $4 billion in illegal funds. BTC-e's website, before it went down, claimed to have handled over $7 billion during its lifetime.

Source: https://www.zdnet.com/article/us-loses-extradition-battle-with-russia-for-bitcoin-kingpin/

A lot of people suspect that Vinnik was just the front man or stooge. Looks like he will now be extradited to Russia for minor charges rather than the serious ones he faces in the US and France.

But interesting that so much can be funneled through one exchange.
1278  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk history of MtGox and how a Bitcointalk post caught the MtGox hacker. on: September 20, 2018, 06:43:22 AM
Another update in the MtGox saga:

https://www.zdnet.com/article/us-loses-extradition-battle-with-russia-for-bitcoin-kingpin/

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The case eventually reached Greece's Supreme Court, and today, it was decided that Vinnik should face charges in Russia, the suspect's native country, and where he expressed his desire to be trialed, mainly because of the thinner charges brought against him.

Quote
On the same day Greek authorities were arresting Vinnik, a team of researchers that also included Google staffers, presented findings at the Black Hat USA 2017 security conference, revealing that 95 percent of all ransomware ransom payments were cashed out and converted into fiat currency through Vinnik's BTC-e portal.

Also on the same day, a group of Bitcoin security specialists calling themselves WizSec published the results of an investigation that linked Vinnik's Bitcoin accounts to laundering funds stolen from the Mt. Gox exchange.

Researchers said that Vinnik was also involved in laundering funds stolen from other cryptocurrency exchanges, such as Bitcoinica, Bitfloor, and other platforms they did not name at the time.
1279  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Zaif hacked for $60 million on: September 20, 2018, 06:18:47 AM
$60 Million sounds like a lot of money, but for big exchanges like this, it is not really a train smash. They will just have to fork out the capital from their own pockets and pay back these people. A good sign is that the exchange had the rest of their reserves in cold storage and that helped to prevent even larger losses.

This just shows us not to keep large amounts of coins in exchanges, because they are famous for having poor code and not being able to stop these hacks.  Angry


Quote
The exchange added that since its own asset reserve is currently around 2.2 billion yen (or $20 million), it has reached an agreement with a Japan-listed firm called Fisco to receive a $44.5 million investment in exchange for a major share of ownership.
Source: https://www.coindesk.com/crypto-exchange-zaif-hacked-in-60-million-6000-bitcoin-theft/

It is enough to make them insolvent and sell a big part of their ownership for a bailout.

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The exchange first noticed an unusual outflow of funds on the platform around 17:00 Japan time on September 14, after which the company suspended asset deposit and withdrawal services.
Source: https://www.coindesk.com/crypto-exchange-zaif-hacked-in-60-million-6000-bitcoin-theft/

September 14 was Friday - So they kept it quiet for a week before disclosing it.



1280  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥IOU - TRUE P2P E-COMMERCE LOYALTY PLATFORM ON BLOCKCHAIN 🔥 on: September 20, 2018, 05:51:30 AM

I do not think that this project is popular on the forum)) For a month and a half only 4 pages of messages - this is not enough.

Perhaps that is because they don't pay shills to post "good project" posts. I don't think quantity of posts is a good indicator.
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