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1441  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: November 13, 2022, 10:57:39 AM
Magnolia is now at the top with a 7-1 record, they beat the Phoenix to give them their 2nd loss. It's just sad I was not able to put a bet on this game, it was due to my work, I was too busy and has forget to place a bet. Congrats to the winners here.  Smiley

Games results

Phoenix 80 Magnolia 90
Northport 91 DYIP 85

I have not seen the pre-game odds but I think Magnolia covers the spread with that 10-point lead.

I thought that DYIP would end the drought in that game because they were up by 10 points after the first half but unfortunately for them, NorthPort tighten their defense in the fourth quarter which resulted in a just 14 points score in the fourth for the DYIP.

Bets for today:

Dragons -14.5 @1.89 vs NLEX
Fiberxers -4.5@1.92 vs ROS

^^ good bets i think because the Dragons are unstoppable as of late in the elimination while the wards of coach Ayo are out to prove that they are for real.

You already won the first game, Dragons won and covered the high spread. Unto the 2nd game, a hot converge vs ROS, I think I'm going to bet on the underdog here due to a very attractive odds, I'm waiting for a live game and wait until Converge will take a decent lead, then I will hammer the ROS ML.
1442  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Does Gambling/Casino Ads Help An Addicted Gambler Who Wants To Stop Gambling on: November 12, 2022, 09:17:22 PM
If we ban gambling adds because gamblers might see it and feel the need to gamble maybe we should ban models in swimsuits because sex addicts might feel the need to masturbate. Or let's ban food pictures because people with eating disorders will have a hard time.

Your addiction is yours to fight and control. You can't expect the whole world to help you with it. Don't ant to see ads? Lock yourself in a room and don't come out until you're healed.
It’s hard to stay away from gambling if you are still seeing a lot of gambling ads all over the internet, but you can’t stop the trend about gambling, you should be the one to hide from it and divert yourself into another hobby that you will get interested. Yes, fight and control it, you can always stop your gambling addiction as long as you also set things right.
1443  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Your take on Bitcoin adoption trust issues on: November 12, 2022, 08:52:22 PM
What do you think one can do, to educate those young ones, And drive the point that with all honestly, Bitcoin isn't as bad as they think it is?
Have a dialogue with them. There aren't lots of things to do. Essentially what you're asking is: how can I make a conversation with a biased person? Apparently, by doing it. Explain them the FUDs, counter-argue to energy waste, criminal activity, mining pool oligopoly, ponzi scheme narrative etc.

End the FUD.
Start an interesting conversation that will correct all their wrong information about bitcoin. Trace the history and share them it’s proven and trusted journey throughout the years. If they are smart enough, they can easily accept the truth about bitcoin and change their corrupt minds. However, expect that not all of them will believe on you, and it’s not your problem anymore, leave those minds that refuse to accept the reality about bitcoin.
1444  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cash out or wait till the end on: November 12, 2022, 03:43:19 PM
Menh it is no easy to be a gambler. Well that the life
"NO RISK NO GAIN"

recently I placed a bet on different soccer games and I  staked it with about $70 on accumulated odd of 10.36 which came out a total of $725.

After placing my bet I later check back on the games in my account to monitor the success of my predictions and I opened the betslip and I  was given a  cash out of about $389 and the matches remaining was just one game  so I decided not to take the it...i decided to be a  brave gambler and wait for the last game to be concluded and then collect the full money

But the last  game didn't turn out the way I wanted it and I lost that $389

I have faced similar situation before and most times I often collect the cash that comes as a  cash out then the result of the Last match turns out correct and instead of having the whole money I miss out and get a  little chunk of it..

So what would you would advise as a gambler? is it better to collect the cash out or wait for the full cash
If you think the amount is already significant, then never hesitate to cashout. You can always continue to gamble and risk your money but you will have no guarantees that you’ll be making additional profits knowing in most scenarios, the more you chase for additional money, the bigger the chances you’ll end up losing them all. That is why as a responsible gambler, do cashout everytime you make significant amount of profits.
1445  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who are those people that you don't want them to know you are a gambler on: November 12, 2022, 03:24:37 PM
Some gamblers keep their gambling activities secrete from people they have close relationship with. Having it in mind that if these people know they are gamblers,it might bring down their reputation or make them look wasteful. I hide my gambling activities from my Mom the reason is that she hates gamblers and calls them irresponsible people from her own perspective.

Are you such gambler ?
Who are these people you hide your gambling activities from ?
Give a reason why you don't want them to know you are a gambler.

I really don’t have the intention to hide as a gambler since I don’t gamble to earn a living, but in my workplace seems that gamblers are not well accepted so I chose to stay silent. I don’t want to ruin my reputation either from my workmates that’s why I never open to them about gambling. However, my family knows that I am a gambler and they don’t hate that idea. But in my workplace, maybe I’ll still keep it as a secret to avoid future issues.
1446  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Elon Musk is one of the keys to be 100k$ per Bitcoin? on: November 11, 2022, 09:57:09 PM
Personally I dont think if Elon Musk or his tweeter account will eefect the price of bitcoin that much because we already saw his tweets in the past and people will not trust his tweets like before and even if his tweets effect the price I guess this effect is just going to be temporary and short-term
Elon Musk was a great influencer but that was just before when people still trusted him that much. Although he is still able to create an impact even from his tweet but we know it only lasted for days so I cannot tell if he can be a source for bitcoin to reach $100k per piece. He’s good and smart, but he’s never enough for a long time surge for bitcoin because he’s no longer that bitcoin influential anymore.
1447  Economy / Economics / Re: Always ask bargain for prices never pay full specially now on: November 11, 2022, 09:39:09 PM
Now it's time to ask prices to go Lower.
Times like this i go shop or anywhere i always say' it's economic down turn can i get cheaper price.
I allready called to my landlord to make my rent much cheaper.
It's times of economic bad times so now you can ask cheaper prices of anything always.

Do not think that these small merchants are not affected with this down economy, of course they also share the same feelings with us. If we get affected, then they surely are too. So asking for a bargain price comes with a case to case basis. It’s not right to ask for a lower price when you know he’s only profiting a very small amount, that’s so selfish to think. Instead, understand that they also need to survive during this troubled time and need to sustain their business for a longer time.
1448  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing $350,000 because of a friend, what would you do? on: November 10, 2022, 09:59:32 PM
This kind of scene is unlikely to happen like someone going all in on just one number. Also, if this happened in real life, I think he (Kevin Hart) will still win the $350,000 as he is not the one who moved those chips or bet and why would the betting be closed after the spin, wouldn't it have been closed when the wheel is already spinning?
Yes, the bet is definitely closed when the wheel starts to spin so there are no moving out of chips, otherwise your bet will be forfeited. But if you are stupid enough in real life, you will do what is impossible and what is against the rules. And you will be moved out in the casino eventually. But since this is very unlikely to turn into reality, no one will certainly do things like this unless if you are not aware of the game and don’t know how to play it either.
1449  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: We Feel All The Emotions When We Gamble on: November 10, 2022, 09:22:19 PM
When we gamble we feel all the emotions, like when we feel excited when we are chasing our losses, feeling happy when we won a big amount, feeling depressed when we lose and we feel frustrated when what we expected to happen did not materialize, this is one of the reasons why we cannot stop gambling because we feel all the emotions.

Do you agree that we cannot stop gambling because it completed all our emotions and do you have other feelings when you gamble.
I agree that gambling let us experience a roller coaster of emotions knowing that most of the gambling games are based on chance and luck. So it’s hard for us to keep on winning and enjoy the game. However, I believe if we also keep on getting more depressed and frustrated every time we gamble, that is not a good sign anymore. It’s either we should take a break first from gambling or we should start controlling our funds so that if we end up losing, we will never be depressed about it.
1450  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Copying Bet From Other Unknown Bettors, Is This a Good Practice? on: November 10, 2022, 02:58:48 PM
It's still better if you know the game first. Not a good practice if you are doing it blindly.
It will still pop out in your bet slip and will have time to review it, that means you know what you pick and who are the possible winners of the game.
It's not different with picking it on your own. It just gets the job faster rather than choosing yourself.
Now, there are instances where gamblers do follow people and their bets, in this example if I am right, it is Drake who is mostly sharing his bets to the public and in social media.
Copying bet is good if you keep on winning, but if you’re like betting blindly and make you lose everytime, then you have to decide for your own bet and trust your self. While most bettors always think and analyze first, some just simply copying bet and lose eventually. The reason why I always think copying bet is never  a good practice, aside from you lose your self-confidence, you become dependent on others to chase your luck.
1451  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 5 Bear Market Mistakes to Avoid on: November 09, 2022, 09:34:44 PM
However, you can protect your money and reduce stress in a falling market by avoiding five common pitfalls made by crypto investors.

Panic
Putting in Emotional Efforts
Investing short-term
Overtrading
Mental Health

These are a product of ourselves. A common mental experience for anyone. Is there really a way to avoid it?

Trading without emotions? Are that even possible lol?

Why avoid being in that situation if it can be managed along the way? Traders are human and there's no 100% way to avoid such emotional actions. They key here is to learn from mistakes, try our best to minimize our losses, and always stay focused on achieving our trading goals no matter what.
Exactly. There can be no easy way to skip from them since they are always present no matter what. And since we are just humans, we often experienced what others have experienced too. The only thing that differs is that some managed to get through all of it and eventually succeeded in the end, while others have left mentally and emotionally affected because of their huge losses that made them big losers in the end.
1452  Economy / Economics / Re: Consumers to Spend More on Black Friday Despite Economic Downturn on: November 08, 2022, 09:52:59 PM
There is no explanation for the high demand for buying during Black Friday other than that the prices are very low. This has nothing to do with the economic situation of the country in general, but rather with individuals who seize the opportunity of Black Friday. In the end, not all people accept the purchase, whether on the occasion or without it.
Personally, I don't recall having acquired things on this occasion or perhaps because I am not a demanding person by nature.
We all see it that the recession is coming, and then so what? If we are still able to budget some funds for this Black Friday, then no one can stop us really. Aside from its a good opportunity to buy at a low market price, it saves our time and money than just going to regular malls and avail their original high prices. So it’s certainly an individual’s preference. Even myself I am tempted to buy, but it also depends on how much extra money I have.
1453  Other / Archival / Re: I don't want to buy cheap bitcoins, I want to buy expensive ones on: November 08, 2022, 09:13:00 PM
Sad but true. When the price is down, few people are interested in buying bitcoins. But in a hype and with high prices, people suddenly become interested in bitcoin and buy him dearly.  Cry

I've experienced this again and again in the last few years in my circle of acquaintances and it hasn't changed to this day. I wonder when will people finally learn it?  Undecided
They will never learned from it even if they encounter a lot of losses. For as long as the greed is there, they will always be blinded with the high prices and tempted to buy again and again when the market is on top. When they have no funds at all left to buy, maybe that’s the time they will realize that their strategy is not working , the reason why they keep on losing.
1454  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: November 06, 2022, 09:51:25 AM
Suspending the ref will be their sole action, and it's not a big problem as they can always find a replacement, and the league will continue running with a ruined reputation. Well, we are still watching PBA games, so despite their reputation, we still love to watch PBA games.  Grin

But let's also consider that Meralco as an underdog able to close out the game with the Dragons. That said violation that being missed call by a referee doesn't change the fact that Meralco keeps up with the foreign team in the first place, I think only a few imagined that Meralco would win.

Dragons are a tough team but the underdog Meralco finds a way to keep the game close. Even if there's a miss call, we should give credit to Meralco for winning that game. About the ref, a suspension is really a must as refs should not influence the result of the game especially in crucial times.


Thanks to their new import because without him, Meralco will continue to tank. Only 2 teams have defeated the Dragons so far, Ginebra and Meralco and they are not anymore the number 1 team as Magnolia had already replaced them. I like what's happening, it only proved that there's no team now that is a heavy favorite to win the finals.

And when the second round take place then we will all realize that it's just like the same drama either SMC or MVP will be there in the finals, though now only one of them can get the ticket since the Bay Area is really bringing a lot of competitiveness, but I'm not closing the possibilities that a solo franchise will manage to move forward, I'm noticing the hard work of Converge import and how the locals are competing alongside of him.

A good sign that the team is really trying to make their presence be felt by the league. Remember back the old Alaska they are also doing their presence be recognized.

Definitely, our PBA teams are showing that this league is still full of competitive players despite the fact that some of the star players had choose to play abroad. Bay Area is such a talented team they outplayed every team that is not a championship team, but this Meralco team just found their savior, they hired a good import and that is providing them spark now.
1455  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 06, 2022, 08:08:26 AM
Phoenix Suns in a huge lead against the Trail Blazers. It's safe to say they will win this one and they got their revenge for their loss yesterday.
The lead is near 30 points.

Yes, revenge win for them, they didn't give the Trail Blazers chance to make a comeback and put another dagger win in the dying seconds.

Almost everyone in the Suns roster who play have scored at least 2 points in this win.

It's a 20 point win by the Suns, nice revenge.

I saw in that game that they have improved their defense as they only limit the Blazers with 82 points, so good job for them. Well, at least now we know that they are legit and the win by the Blazers are just due to luck.
1456  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: November 06, 2022, 01:59:48 AM
Suspending the ref will be their sole action, and it's not a big problem as they can always find a replacement, and the league will continue running with a ruined reputation. Well, we are still watching PBA games, so despite their reputation, we still love to watch PBA games.  Grin

But let's also consider that Meralco as an underdog able to close out the game with the Dragons. That said violation that being missed call by a referee doesn't change the fact that Meralco keeps up with the foreign team in the first place, I think only a few imagined that Meralco would win.

Dragons are a tough team but the underdog Meralco finds a way to keep the game close. Even if there's a miss call, we should give credit to Meralco for winning that game. About the ref, a suspension is really a must as refs should not influence the result of the game especially in crucial times.


Thanks to their new import because without him, Meralco will continue to tank. Only 2 teams have defeated the Dragons so far, Ginebra and Meralco and they are not anymore the number 1 team as Magnolia had already replaced them. I like what's happening, it only proved that there's no team now that is a heavy favorite to win the finals.
1457  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does Satoshi Needs to Reveal His Identity ? on: November 05, 2022, 09:37:50 PM
There are so many people in the Bitcoin Talk Forum who have interest to discover the true identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. Also there are few who oppose the matter, that Satoshi Nakamoto must not reveal his identity.

I am so much confused regarding matter. So I think, it would be better to arrange a concensus about the identity of the Bitcoin and Blockchain inventor. The members of this forum can vote for themselves and it will be helpful for Satoshi Nakamoto to make a correct discussion.

What is your opinion ? 
For me, there is no need to reveal his identity. His decision is what made the bitcoin community right now, and I think we should be thankful for it rather than question him. After all, Satoshi will always receive the acknowledgment from his own invention even if he chose not to disclose his identity anymore. So let’s leave him with that, Satoshi is wise and smart, he knows his decision will always make the bitcoin community create progress and development.
1458  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which has better odds, lottery, online gambling, or sports betting? on: November 05, 2022, 12:58:27 PM
Of course, it's sports betting, the chances are higher because there's no house edge, as long as you bet on odds that are higher than 2.00 and you win most of the time, most likely you will end up profitable, however, you also need to ensure that you have the skills to manage your bankroll effectively and the ability to control your emotion.
1459  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: November 05, 2022, 12:28:14 PM

No need to worry as PBA commissioner will always be there to save refs ass. If there's any investigation, I'm pretty sure it will be quick to forget, Com. Marcial can't do anything against MVP's group of company, we know that right?

They will not do anything if the order is coming from them to rig the game. PBA is known to be a rigged basketball league so it's not surprising to see a ref trying to favor a certain team to win, whether it's Pangilinan or Cojuangco's team, it doesn't matter as long as the order is coming from above.

Yes, this is one reason that I don't watch the PBA to be honest in the last couple of years, on the Pangilinans and Cojuangcos are always in the finals. And most of the time they are giving favors by the refs and even the commissioner himself. Gone are the days wherein it was really that competitive and players are really literally go and kill themselves inside the court just to get a win (yeah, maybe I'm absurd, but you know what I mean). Or maybe I really old school and have seen the early years of the PBA and now I can't understand how the league turn out to be like this.

They are controlling this league, the fact that they have plenty of teams, only tells they are in control, just like a corporation where they own the majority of the stocks, they always have the voting power and influence. Well, I hope they'll change this league for the better, only one team for an owner, that will make the league more competitive and more independent.
1460  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 05, 2022, 11:47:07 AM
Kyrie is in the hot seat. Nike just canceled their deal with him and they won't be releasing the new shoes for him that are about to be launched for the month.
News: Enough Is Enough: Nike Suspends Kyrie Irving Relationship
Too many bad things are happening to him and fans are protesting his support for the anti-Semitism remark. And his team even suspended him for 5 games without pay!

Right, I don't think that any brand will support anyone for anti-Semitism remark. Specially in this era wherein we have what we call the "Cancel" society. So it's really a bad move for him and not sure how he can bounce back except maybe about his suspension, he will go on publicly to apologize and then make his team better.

However, I guess he is too late to make any apology and not sure even if he hire a PR company to make his image look good again.
His donations to anti-Semitism should be deny by the group for sure.

Nike is into business, they will always make sure that their promoter will be a good model, as of now, Irving does not fit to be a good model so canceling his contract by Nike is just good for him. He has an attitude problem, he is a superstar but unfortunately not a good role model.
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