I can't be the only one aware that you conveniently left out the part about stars and supportive comments? What about them? They're made by people who truly using the platform in subject, and all of them has to be extremely satisfied? 5 stars. Does it mean suppose there are 60 reviewers, legit reviewers from which I have no idea where you get them from, 10 of them leave a 4 stars review, which doesn't met your service agreement, so you'll have to ask them to not publish it? Quite sure cherry picking is not fair in the world of reviewing a service or platform. Is this honesty? How about if you only have 30 out of those 60 who gave 5 stars? You'll ask the other 30 to not post their review while hunting for more reviewers --again, not sure where you get the legit people who reviewed a platform for the sole purpose of reviewing it instead of getting paid for it-- and so on and so on until you achieve 50? Again, is this honesty?


So now you're no longer "the last force", but one of "the last" person and one of the last sites. Falling down pretty quick from the initial position of your statement, eh? Curious about one thing, how much will it cost for someone to solve a case to the court of India or Pakistan? Free? I have specific someone in mind that is in trouble and last i check --haven't open their thread for days now-- they're looking for a lawyer to help them. Also have another one in mind with significantly less amount of money, but currently in an indisputable situation against a platform, care to mediate them and fly back and forth between their countries? You can fly there and help them both? Pro bono? Or will it cost tens of thousands of dollars?


Interesting. I'd really love if I could verify that you're indeed talking with Ms. Valge and not talking to each other with yourself or one of your team. Care to show us the profile box that shows her username with that chat on the background? I am sure a scam buster know what I mean and how to provide it.


I don't think whether the last paragraph of the archived chat log is real or fabricated is relevant. It was provided simply for the reason you asked them to show the entire chat, where you imply there will be something there to tip the balance towards your side, as stated below:


It does not negate the fact that you asked some sum of money for some rating boost. In fact, anyone reading that conversation in full will very likely understand that you removed the word "FAKE" is simply as a bargaining chip, a gesture of good will that will turn sour when your request got denied.

The chat is filled with implied threat every now and then.

[holydarkness said: the explanation, in summary, was that the OP, -CryptoViking- has deleted all of the chat]

As a professional, from where I stood, you should have understand and well-adept on the rule to archive everything for future reference, this practices even also applied in real world business. But let's not dwell on that. Earlier today I've contacted OP via telegram and reinvited him to this thread to perhaps add further info. And unlike you, I archive it, alongside with a prior notice to the counterparty that I am doing so. Let's just wait for OP to come here.

[I saw that OP has replied here in between me composing this wall of text and confirmed the deletion. OP, do you mind sharing those archived conversations?]

Meanwhile, let's talk about this interesting part of paid service you offered, shown below. From the perspective of a professional, as you claimed to be, from 1 to 10, how low do you think these practices I mark in red squares in term of ethical business, personal invasion, and/or honest review site?



Do those private investors know and you have their consent on their email being shared to a third party paying you? How about the 5 stars comment and 50 supportive comments? These were made with honesty too?


Can I kindly, very kindly, ask you to please don't self-overpraise yourself? If you can? I believe you're not the last force standing on this dirty market and helping people, especially given that you involve yourself on that dirty market by offering positive reviews on several sites. Lovesmayfamilis can probably single handedly --or even single fingerly-- topped your self-proclaimed last force against dirty market and helping people, and he's just one of dozens of the prominent scam-busters on this forum who actively hunting not only projects but also individuals who threaten the poor and vulnerable citizen of crypto, I was just too lazy to dig their profile link. If you have been around the scam busting field for so long, I am more than sure you can mention several names yourself. And they do that completely for free. So yeah, I doubt the "last force" statement is quite correct.


No admins involved on this case by standing in front of you to defend "their friend". So far, only the DTs, and they're not even 20, just... 5, hmmm... you must be bad at math. And they --or dare I say "we" as I am there too-- are not friends with cryptoviking or backstage. For a professional in scam busting and crypto reviewing who doesn't take screenshots for what I assume would be privacy reason, you seems a bit trigger happy on baseless statements, don't you agree?

But enough roasting. Now let's move back to the topic. I'd like to address the concern of your depth of capability to conduct research as... the last force. Let's focus on this project and the article you published [archived here].

You believe Ms. Valge's involvement on the project is, at the very least, questionable because you can't confirm her involvement. No mention of this project on her LinkedIn. Thus you marked it with fake on your page. If only you dive deeper, far deeper than an amateur like me did, you'll find a fact that she retweeted the announcement of those 56 partners.



I doubt she'll be retweeting it if she did not involved at any degree and backstage only borrowed her name without consent.

Thought?

Hi, this is a very informative thread. I have not read the thread thoroughly, but at a glance, I think it'll be better suited and appreciated if you move them to begginers and help. One, because people who came here and found this thread most likely has already been scammed and this thread is a bit... too late for them to read, and two, IMO, the scam accusation board is more to --as the name suggested-- accuse an entity, solving a dispute and/or reporting a scam action. Such informative thread like this will be very much helpful and more on-context on the beginners sections

I take it that, as you've been here for couple of years and been busting scammers a lot, you are aware that providing evidences can be made from both sides? That is one of the purpose of this thread as well as my invitation on the other thread, to let you answer and defend yourself here.

You are more than welcome to give the screenshots from your side, and... uhh... what's the words? Ahhh... speak with proof and let the audience decide for themselves..

You are correct about Steve generally help solving every problem sitewise. He's also known to never linger on one case once a verdict is made. He has given you his word that he'll get to the bottom of your case, if you haven't heard from him or other support team, then I think he had got to the bottom of it and found that the decision made by the team is correct and justified, thus leaving it. You might want to refer to Findingnemo's explanation here to get a better insight on what ToS you most likely broke.

Suuuupp, Freddy? 

Yeah, now that I'm legendary, the next sacred duty will be to help deserving members to rank up. I wouldn't mind the challenge if theymos created "angelic" or "archon" or whatever-it'll-be-named with 2,000 merit, though, it'll be a nice new challenge.

Please invite me to your 20 bedrooms mansion when it's available.

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If theymos allowed you to change it, may I suggest that the new shorter version of your pseudonym is simply "paid2"? LOL, it'll be quite an inside joke, I think. The number 2 as reference to your old username as well as because "paid" is already owned by someone and abandoned. It must be a hell for him if his account is still active, and he uses ninja's tg bot. Imagine the amount of notification he got on daily basis if he turned the "mentions notification" on.

I find it funny you said something like that. Not in the kind of funny "hahaha", the other kind of funny. Perhaps you want to share the facts fairly about this issue here?

[gasp]
Ohh well, I am working for rollbit, you're correct. That's why I left them negative tag up to few hours ago, and even a neutral tag is still there when this post was made. That's also why I criticize them and said they shared the burden of blame for this case, all because secretly I'm their best staff. But as you wished, I'm leaving this thread alone. Good luck with your case.

Thank you for this update. To clarify, the person doing video verification is a different person whose ID and photo is being submitted for their previous KYC purpose?

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OP, I'm giving you the best benefit of doubt here by giving you three days to explain or say whatever you have to say regarding that statement by Razer above. If you have no more thing to say to defend your position, I'll be inclined to think Rollbit has made a good decision and this case is closed for me, thus I'm retracting my neutral tag by Sunday.

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Edit: retracted.

So, just to make it clear by stating the obvious, you choose rollbit to trade instead of the conventional CEX or DEX is because they're offering 1,000x leverage? I wasn't sure I understand this feature correctly that I need to search for a back-up information from an article.

Wouldn't you agree if we say that your intention is not purely good? You came to rollbit to exploit this feature to make a huge profit from a tiny amount of money.

However, IMO, with that said, you're not the only one to blame. Rollbit also shared the burden and at fault here. If they're not ready for an "exploitation" of their feature and have a countermeasure placed to deter abuses, they shouldn't offer the feature on the first place.

Based on Razer's reply above, you've made way so many profit, roughly 670x of your initial deposit, if my calculator is not error. Wouldn't you agree that it is way above the word "enough"?


Just like other case --the other one, not the one with video conference-- can you please give a better explanation on what kind of market manipulation and abuse OP did?

If I may give a suggestion and be blunt about it, if you're not ready for a feature with all things and security placed, don't offer it and then kicking your user(s) out because they put your book in red.

Hi, updating the thread with recent development. Razer finally replied to my PM yesterday evening informing me that --more or less-- he'll escalate the issue to the support team. Hopefully OP will hear from them about video verification soon. Meanwhile, I'll change the negative feedback to a neutral one as the purpose of the tag was never to left a bad verdict to Razer or Rollbit, and more to catch their attention, which already achieved.

OP, please update us accordingly if you've heard from them and have the video convo scheduled and/or the issie cleared.

my apologies for not being able to update the thread sooner, the instance I got the PM, I was AFK almost all day yesterday

Just so anyone can get a better understanding of your case, can you please upload as many evidences as you can? Spare no mercy, "flood" this thread with screenshots, it'll help us understand the whole story. Your snippets is a bit inadequate to draw a conclusion, especially with moonlight, it seems they're giving a more detailed information of the situation below the snippet of the chat you provided.

Also for "trading", I understand correctly you mean as in literal trading, exchanging one crypto to another? And not a game of trade or something? Why would you even use a gambling site to trade?

Done just now. I'd like to ask you to give a little bit more patience, if you don't mind, for my message to be noticed by sportsbet's representative and for them to take action.

OP, lock this thread as you have another exactly similar one with more traffic. Having two exact thread will just confuses people and made the resolution attempt less focused. The button to lock this thread will be on the bottom of the page, left side corner.

That's probably the most important part to highlight on this thread, which also why I suggested OP to wait for the system to reverse it. I believe it has not been more than 24 hours since OP reached to bc.games customer support --if OP ever did-- as the transaction itself happened in less than 24 hours ago, as evidenced by the screenshot of the receipt by OP.

It's safe to assume we won't see Jr BM in a while, or forever. They've abandoned their telegram channel and deleted their TG account, it's a ghost town waiting for their citizen to realize they're writing to no one, and Jr BM probably also left the tagged account for good as well. Their long run action will be to re-emerge with another username and another TG group.

Have you consider the likelyhood of the system need some time to reverse the transaction? I am not familiar with Indian banking system, and since several articles I searched gave me mixed answer, I resort to our latest brand new and still shiny source of information, ChatGPT. To summarize my conversation with... it, the likelyhood of transaction got successfull and credited to a wrong account is about 1%, but it does need several days to reverse the said transaction, suppose it is not credited to a wrong account.

Below is the snippet of the conversation:

Let's not start throwing unnecessary accusations towards anyone. I know you're frustrated and understandably irritated, but shasan is one of the reputable members and a good scam busters of the forum. If a platform cheated their users, and proven by evidences, he'll agreed and said so instead of defending them, any of them.

What he tried to say is that your winning is arguably low compared to their daily cash flow and for them to risk their hard-earned reputation just to "earn" from the amount cheated, and thus, it's quite likely they're trying to figure out your case.

Razer was online again some time yesterday, and quite likely see the tag left on their account. I hope you'll hear from them soon.

The so-called kiddie pool you're looking for is within the forum itself, we literally has a board dedicated for these "kiddies" to swarm around and learn how to "swim". It's in the name, Beginners & Help. Emphasize on the word "beginners" which can be used interchangably with "newbies".

There's even a swimming instructor giving helps and pointers on how to roam around the other boards, called Newbies - Read before posting . It's pinned, it's at the top of the page once you opened the board. Not sure how you missed it, or if you ever even looked at that board.

Moving to lending topic, there's also a pointer for beginner lenders and borrowers, with another "swimming instructor" on it, [EDU] The Rule of "No Collateral, No Loan" - IGNORE AT YOUR OWN RISK! and [EDU] EXERCISE CAUTION WHEN LENDING TO USERS! Enjoy! You can use these piece of information as you deemed fit.

Oh, here's another pointer: the mods frowned greatly against consecutive posts. Expect your post to be merged by mods. Try to not taking it too personally, almost everybody who made multiple posts at once insted of replying in one long post faced the same situation. It's not you, it's the rule.

Even if OP see the red flags, it'll be already too late for them. I have never used exodus and all of their services before, so I can't be sure, but if OP's case is just like the one I said above with N.exchange, the users were not let know which third party exodus is using.

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OP, perhaps you want to try an approach suggested by Potato Chips on the other thread,


or try to get in touch with bvg96634, you both has a quite identical situation, just a different 3rd party. Maybe he can give you a suggestions on how he got out of the situation.