I believe you did not know how to use the Insert List button. Click on it and it will make your composing time more easily Bitcoin Treasuries can be helpful for you to get statistics. Bull or bear market? I believe we are in an accumulation phase before the next bull market. |
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You can quote posts in locked topics too. For example, if this topic is lock and you want to quote this post, how to do this? Let's use [quote author=tranthidung link=topic=5408277.msg60668242#msg60668242 date=1659361127]
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With date is converted from https://www.epochconverter.com/ by typing exact month, date, year, hours and click on Human date to Timestamp. Then you will get this number in Epoch timestamp: 1659361127. Use this number for date=1659361127 You can verify it by click on quote button, you will get the same code |
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Heya, currently decluttering my email accounts due to spam and unwanted messages that forces me to change my email on my bitcointalk account for the sake of having a clean slate as well as security. This will also serve as a proof that this account wasn't hacked nor changed hands.-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is Maus0728 from bitcointalk.org, today is 1st of August 2022.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 1G3UYV95L7PAMBgfmVZAeFQMqKrrWxfAnz
IOwkZIPytid/VfsLqiGSXays8WEfTaEr5fc4c/eSjpIfDz9w8YDSpAJN59bdVaQ8tMc0EDGB4kE5/QQx+U1Plkk=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE----- The address was also staked almost 2.5 years ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg53425606#msg53425606Regards, Maus0728 Quoted and verified.
I think your topic belongs to Reputation, not Meta. It is personal thing for your personal account and is not related to forum issues. |
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Maybe I could be wrong here because I am non-native English speaker
You're still playing the "translation" card? Go ahead. Nothing to be serious when you distrust me.  As I said, if you can not share where the 'of' preposition has the meaning you implied here, you are wrong. The way you understand my answer with 'from' is wrong too. So your distrust makes no sense with me. |
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You should avoid nested quotes as much as possible especially when nested quotes are unnecessary. Sometimes, you must quote original one in full version in order to help readers get its context and meaning. Mostly, nested quotes are unnecessary. If you want to improve your writing in this forum, please read Bitcointalk posting etiquette
P.S. PM me if this should be moved to B&H, this seemed like the right board to me.
It should be in Beginners & Help. |
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I noticed that CryptopreneurBrainboss is not listed as a manager. He manages campaigns that pay in btc and currently managing Betplay campaign.
If you consider, you can include in your next update.
Thanks for the suggestion but negative chance to be here. |
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I'm pretty sure Tranthidung knew what they were doing given they now DT distrust me together with the issues I raised in the OP I consider their action to be retaliatory towards me.
I did not distrust you because of this topic, but it is because you played with words, and distorted my DM meaning to you. Please ask anyone who can understand my reply to you in the way you described in your posts. - Prepositions 'from' and 'to' have different meanings and you tried to change the meaning. If you can point out any dictionary supports your opinion, please share, I am ready to learn it.
- So far, I did not understand the preposition 'of' has the meaning you implied. Maybe I could be wrong here because I am non-native English speaker
- Weird
This style is reflected on many feedbacks given to your account by other members too. |
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Looks like we've got a good list for monitoring the activity of the previously most generous merit sources on this forum. Some of them are no longer send merit for whatever reason, and this is an important thing to note. Even though the merit circulation is not disturbed much, I think some of them may have been disabled or have been replaced by the admin, we just don't know who. If you have time, you can read more in [TOP-200] The most generous users giving merits. I just don't have time to look at it, honestly. In addition, it is not necessary to find out who are merit sources. theymos simply does not want to announce the merit source list publicly. Reasons are mentioned there I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.
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Do not beg for merit excessively.
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If a merit source isn't active, then they may not have the time that you are talking about, but they do not have to spend their time to do anything if they are active, they can send merits in the threads they participate in.
You never knows what happen with a merit source. - If you see them inactive for a few months, this case is clear. They simply don't have time in the forum
- If you see them active (that can be just a short log in and leave), you will never knows how many time (hours) they spend on the forum. This case, you just see a vague signal about their activity
It is about activity status, other things will be whether they have time to glance around to find good posts and meriting them. To simplify merit source jobs, there are a few topics to help them.
Because such an approach devalues posting as such. The assessment of the post itself fades into the background, and things that are not related to the merit, such as the user's activity, to whom how much he gave what, to whom he is friends, and so on, come to the fore. This is all rubbish and should be discarded if we are talking about posting evaluation.
This is a point why we can not verify quality of two posters simply by total merit they earned. Where are they come from? Are sources of their earned merit really decentralized and come from different merit sender population or cohort. If they exchange their merit back and forth with friends, local users that can be a serious factor to decrease their quality. In addition, merit sources will have a kind of advantage to receive more merit from forum members. Because lower rank members hope they will receive more merit from sources. Anyway, it is human nature, not serious. Total earned merit is like a skin of your account but it does not exactly reflect your account quality in general as well as in a specific narrower area (Tech, Trading, Security, etc.) |
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For the purpose of knowing better, can someone please explain why some topics here are completely deleted while others are moved to off topic board for discussion?
Off-topic topics still have value but zero-valued topics will be trashed. - "Other topics that might be of interest to bitcoiners." It is a description for that board.
Off topic means you didn't make sense, and it wasn't fit for any other board, so why not completely deleted?
It is helpful in some aspect so it is accepted in the forum. For shit topics, no value, they are trashed. |
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What happens if a merit source stops meriting posts? Are they booted out?
Only if that merit source sends a request to be blacklist by theymos (blacklist ~ no longer want to be a merit source) or if theymos reshuffles merit sources that he barely does. Because i feel as a merit source it is a duty to you to merit posts, if you are a member that is not a merit source then that is different, you might not give out any merits and it would not be a problem, only that members may not merit you too as you are not involved in the system, but as a merit source deciding to stop meriting posts sounds like 'quiting your job'.
Personally, it is not a duty or a job! Merit sources are doing free meriting jobs but they have to spend their time to do it. So there is no pressure from theymos I think. A merit source is granted if theymos considers that member is a quality member and has ability to clarify bad and good posts, trusted enough to not sell sourced merits to get money etc. |
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Speaking of drama - it's considered bad manners to quote a PM (as you have done with my PM's) without a person's permission.
(you neither sort, nor received my permission to mis-quote me)
Yes, this is true, agree. I should not do this!
Initially, in my answer, I did not quote any thing. When I received your DM, you instantly asked why I sent that DM. Is it on behalf of other forum members? Can't understand why you thought like this.
Later you brought that one on. If you did not have inaccurate paraphrasing of my DM that is very simple to understand, I did not quoted it. If you paraphrase, paraphrase it accurately and don't distort the original meaning, please. First message 2022-07-24, 21:17:21 (GMT +10) - Request that I remove my posts from their thread.
Second message 2022-07-25, 23:22:59 (GMT +10) - At this point tranthidung states they have not contacted anyone else.
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BPIP is simply a telegraph repeating what occurs on the forum. BPIP also does a couple of others things such as rank those scores that occur on the forum and takes the average of three of those scores to create a "rank" of users.
I don't care about these ranks! Because if I care about it, I should spend my time to understand what algorithms / criteria they use to calculate ranks that is unnecessary. I don't obsess with those ranks especially they are on BPIP. I have my name here, bitcointalk not on BPIP. They are built and managed by trusted team but it does not mean they are representatives of the forum. According to BPIP, you have removed these users from your DT trust list:
Sorry. Again, don't rely on third-party resources too much. It's a bug from BPIP and they should fix it I did not know BPIP has that information too. Thanks for sharing. My trust list is the same from my side, no changes. Change was made by theymos, not by me so their information is not correct. Did @theymos tell you that?
No. I sent him a DM after that post and it was done a few hours later when he was online. Tell me, if excluding me out of DT1 gang, resolve the drama. I don't wait for your opinion to send my DM to theymos. I don't beg theymos to be in DT1 and it is not my dream. Things I have done are what I have done. The community recognize it or not, it is not a matter with me.
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Feel free to play the "lost in translation" card if you like
Nah. No play of translation card here. I am not born and living in a nation that has native English so probably I am not perfect in English. But honestly so far I don't believe I misunderstand your question with the proposition 'of' and I believe my answer is very clear with the preposition 'from'. If I denied that I did not send any DM to other posters in that topic, I would write "No DM to anyone else" or "No request to anyone else". Make sense? Still not sure why you used 'of' in your DM to me in that question Have you made this request of others?
My misunderstanding possibly come from 'of' that you used. I thought it is on behalf of. Sorry if I extrapolate it inaccurately. In my second DM to you, I wrote nothing to be serious and explained it clearly. I see via BPIP that you have removed those users mentioned earlier and I for one thank you for doing so.
Sorry, removed who? That's just a deflection from the topic at hand being "self scratching".
I agree (as wrote above) but I think yahoo has a valid point. This drama is because I am in DT1 and when I add one member in my trust list, it means I promote them to DT2. Now, it's gone. I am in blacklist of theymos, forever. Back to your story, do you think that if someday you is in DT1 and your alt will automatically become DT2, will it trigger another drama? Now, you are not DT1, no drama. So how about future? I see LoyceV did not add his alt, LoyceMobile in LoyceV's trust list but DarkStar_ add his alt in his trust list as same as you did. Right or wrong, it depends on how you look at it. Personally, I see it is not serious but not adding your alt to your trust list would be a better option. I don't use to trigger a drama card if your alt won't be used to scam anyone. However, if someone want to trigger drama, they will have reason to do that especially if someday you are DT1. Regarding the various questions around points accumulated via positive or negative trust feedback (and even if you don't use BPIP, the point of this thread is that you are infact using the Trust Feedback system).
It seems you love the past trust system and try to stick with BPIP and old algorithm that I never spent my time to read it thoroughly. If you love it, just stick with it but you should not ask other members to use BPIP and consider the trust algorithm on that site as official one of the forum. What I am using is the current version of Trust feedback system, not an old version years ago. Reasons why we have a new trust feedback system. Because past algorithms cause drama when people can paint other walls in dark red. How it becomes darker with time, as said, I don't spend my time to learn its algorithm. But now, it is gone from this forum, isn't it? |
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Self scratching makes the trust inclusion look funny, but it's not illegal. I don't agree with it. If I have worked with or been a part of a project with someone for awhile, I normally give em a positive trust rating at some point. I barely add users to my trust list though, very hard to get there.
Agree with you here. Just scrap DT and move to a reputation based system where everyones feedback counts the same.
It is better than the past with old trust system. I recalled that when a DT1 member (or even DT2 member) with high power weight (not sure how it was counted with past trust system), a negative trust feedback will be shown with very big multiplier like -100, -200 in dark red. That causes a lot of panic and drama. Fortunately, with current trust / feedback system, all is the same (at least in visual display in orange). But again, a drama is moving to a third party site (BPIP - early after the launch of new trust/ feedback system, they used the old trust algorithm for people who missed it. Maybe months later, they changed and applied a new algorithm (or their own) for Recognized page. I don't follow it so I am not sure) I am not here to be recognized on BPIP  |
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If you see a guy left accurate feedback on others, Include them on your trust list. That's how it should work.
Really? Is it a mandatory condition that I have to look at their trust feedback on others, before including them into my trust list? How a member use their trust list, trust feedback are only one of things you should trust or distrust that one. They are not only or main decisive factors. People above have their points that I agree to but your point is wrong in my opinion. Including someone into your trust list means you trust that one. Excluding means you don't trust that one. Trust feedback is for specific works, trades, deals etc. Trust list inclusion means you trust that one in general but you can always change it if things change. Hope that I don't misunderstand. Lastly, a member is not in your trust list does not mean you don't trust that one. A member is not in your exclusive trust list does not mean you trust that one. I think it is serious to put one member into exclusive (distrust) list so I barely do it. |
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I know from personal experience that in the case of a large number of deleted posts of an individual user, a temporary ban is issued - especially if the user, regardless of the deleted posts, continues to violate the rules of the forum. Just recently, I had one such case where I reported more than 50 posts of one user, after which he became inactive - I assume he got a temporary ban.
Two main factors: - Total posts made or total messages sent
- Intensity of that activity
If there is same total posts/ messages, the more intensively you do it, you will likely get a more serious ban. I knew it from the case of BitcoinFX. You sent over 100 PMs with the same format: clear unsolicited bulk PMs. 4 people reported it, making it unwanted & unsolicited bulk PMs = spam. Most others would've been banned much longer.
This is the only way to send a clear message to the user, and it is up to the user to decide whether he wants to change his behavior or go for a permanent ban.
Here but as I know, it is flexible and moderator can ban you after your second time if they consider your case is serious and period of a temporary ban is flexible too. It does not have to be 7, 14 or 30 days. Staff do not want to hand out bans for unconstructive posts but if we feel that you as a user are continually making very poor or unsubstantial posts due to your paid signature the following bans will be issued:
First offence: 7 days
Second offence: 14 days
Third offence: 30 days
Fourth: Permanent ban
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I am having trouble using an Android to send the proper data to begin buying/selling Bitcoin.
When you are making a trade, it should be done on desktop computer or laptop, not on mobile if that trade is big enough for you. Basically, we can more easily make mistake on mobile rather than on desktop computer or laptop that has better keyboard and bigger screen. In addition, less protection (software) is used to protect mobile. Is there a way to get them my personal info by email directly from my pc?
I don't understand your question and your need. Just don't store your sensitive information in email or anything on third-party service. You don't control those data when they put it in. Another note when making a transaction. |
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First message 2022-07-24, 21:17:21 (GMT +10) - Request that I remove my posts from their thread.
Second message 2022-07-25, 23:22:59 (GMT +10) - At this point tranthidung states they have not contacted anyone else.
You This is a very strange request from someone who is DT1.
Have you made this request of others?
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Me lol, no request from anyone else. Please don't connect anything to DT role.
It is my topic, and I just realized that there are some sensitive information for others. It does not mean others can do the same like what I did but it will take time for them to do it if they want.
I know about archives on other sites as well. Anyway, nothing to be serious about it. I just don't want anyone can get any trouble because of my topic that was created for no bad intention behind. I think you understand what I meant
I am not good at English but it seems I understood my DM like "Have you made this request on behalf of others?" as I wrote in previous post above, rather than "Have you made this request to others ?" It seems your question would be the second one? to, not of. I did not reply you like "I did not / have not made the same request to others". If I replied like that, you can judge that I changed my words but it is not in this case. Just a bit of miscommunication with prepositions if there isAnyway, as I explained in my DM to you and in my post, the reason is the same. Not sure why you wrote like I changed my words in two DMs to you.
Some months your trust feedback score is lower e.g. +3 while other months when you are DT1 that number jumps to +9 which makes your BPIP score "most trusted" jump higher and in turn your overall "most recognised" score then becomes higher. The perception when you are DT1 is that your are more trust worthy due to the higher score.
I am not in Bitcointalk with a reason to be recognized by BPIP. Any logic here. Maybe you mind about ranking on BPIP but I don't mind. Sometimes I look at it but most of time I don't. If I (barely) look at BPIP, I mostly look at the merit ranking page with my curiosity that what is my rank compares to grandfather members with airdropped merit. Not care about trust page, recognized page. |
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It's much more useful for the DT-system if you don't get excluded, but also don't include users just because they've left you positive feedback. I can only speculate why you included some of them, but this is what it looks like.
Thank you Loyce but it's done, now I am free to use my trust list when I am not DT1. I remembered after another drama, Hhampuz left DT1 too
About the discussion in another topic on how many inclusion from DT1 will promote a member to DT2, I think it makes sense. If the threshold for DT2 promotion is 10 ie., no drama with DT1 members and their trust list.  |
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