I'd have to check, Pangolin handled all shipping details. I would be surprised if they didn't insure shipments considering everything they send is a high value package.

It was delivered by a 3rd party carrier as I'd be considered a rural community off the beaten delivery path. I specifically did not want them delivering this package if I wasn't going to be home (bad experience when they delivered my T9+). It was just annoying that they still processed the hand off to them. They said it was something to do with requests being submitted before it enter the country.

I'll see what Pangolin has to say on the matter. Either way it's still working, and it wouldn't hurt to get some troubleshooting guidelines from them to disseminate.

Could happen but unlikely. I remember a few going out that way with 741's and 8 series I think. I haven't heard of any in a while that went out as duds.

Sorry if I missed it.

When the controller is powered on, are you able to login and see the GUI?

I read this as you have 10 of the miners set up.

Did you have them on 2 separate Auc's 5 each? Have you gone back and tried them individually maybe starting at 1 miner and trying different auc/4pin cables?

Yeah your numbers are what I was using as a benchmark, as I can't find published low power mode numbers. Yours have been up and running for a while, do they stay with the Freq they lock in at startup or does it cchange on an auto update type feature.


That's what my guess was on this, the room ambient is about 20C average these are running in my basement. On Normal mode it's within spec for (TH/S), but at low power it seems to compound the issue. I am hoping they have some troubleshooting info to pass along, as I browsed the tabs I didn't see anything I could really dig into, even the API log data is pretty foreign for now; especially when it's not as simple as 100/105 chips or something.

I've fired off an email to see what I hear back. In the one to Pangolin I was sure to mention the issues I had with the delivery just to have everything covered and documented with them. Either way tonight I'll switch between the 2, this should net me 3-4 extra TH/S.

31.7 -> 20 hopefully
15.7 -> 30.5
47.4 -> 50.5

Yeah definitely not picnic weather, hence the attempt to get 8kw pumping in the basement. Just need to build soundproofing and I can get both back up to normal power mode.
Much closer to the 9f weather today, to my great relief on the way to work.

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I'm reaching out to Pangolin and Whatsminer today to see if there are any support documents out. Anything in the way of troubleshooting or tweaking as the one unit just doesn't seem right, I'd also like to see a published spec for what to expect from low power mode.

I'm back to only getting 15.7 TH/S on that unit - haven't had a chance to test power draw, like won't before my trip this week. I gave it a reboot last night and will leave it for another 24 hours and see. Tonight I'm going to swap power modes on my 2 units to compare and see how my other unit (31.7 TH/S on normal power mode) runs.

Here's what my low power mode unit shows in the status - All devices show 105 effective chips

	GH/S AVG	Freq	Temps
SM0	6490	314	74
SM1	4879	263	71
SM2	4394	249	65

Hi jackg,

Sorry if I wasn't clear.


I guess I'm wondering if they removed your daily operating cost from this revenue, or if you had the option to pay for daily operating fee another way.


Looking at this .038 was the upfront for the contract - take that from revenue of .0399 leaves = .0019 BTC profit or does this not include the daily fee is that how you got to the number .008 BTC that was unable to be withdrawn?

I was just trying to clear up whether or not over the 30 days you had withdrawn any BTC?

If not did it work out daily that they showed Approximately you earned .0015 BTC but paid .001425 (just a guess figure) BTC daily fee, leaving you with a .00075 profit for the day?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4636521.0

Here's a good place to get started.  It outlines what you need to consider before getting started.

Basically your cost is for your hardware, then whatever power it takes to run the gear, at your local electricity rates.

As for how often you need to upgrade. I'd say it's a necessity once your gear is unprofitable/obsolete. This point is different for everyone based on electricity rates and Diff increases, against current price.

I've heard the same but the thread being rehashed has never seemed an issue; certainly not large enough to warrant inaction. Personally at one time I called for the entire board to be locked; start from scratch in a way. I felt this would be easier to manage as there would be many eyes on the change trying to assist in cleaning it up. There would also be a thread appeals if someone felt it was a good thread had been locked, I can't think of many ongoing discussions that would warrant this as they've mostly been overrun.


True the best example I can think of would have been pizza day or the 10 year anniversary... can't remember. There were like 4 threads on the go with people cross posting between them. I figured out which thread was oldest, then reported the other 3 with a reference link.

I think mostly it comes down to the report itself. I'm sure I give to many reasons or details in my reports from time to time but I get my point across. It's a matter of finding a forum precedent such as descriptions of what topics belong on the board and referencing it, or the multiple threads. In your case for the "unhandled" reports for a lock-topic it always comes down to opinion, they may still get handled down the road. Someone must still see some value in between all the shit. I know I've left a few threads unreported as I've seen a genuine attempt at conversation/discussion amidst the spam/sig spam.

I thought it looked like someone else was doing the same as me. Keep it up, as I'm sure a few of them have missed a payment date most are lazy and only post the minimum for a period.

That's been my reporting style for a while, I tend to establish my opinion of the last 3 pages. Then report the OP same as you generally along the lines of this.

"Thread has run its course, now a magnet for spam, please lock"

Then I report all the spam. I've found the same as you to within a couple days although sometimes the topic is locked within an hour. If it takes a few days I tend to go back and report anything that came in after my report.

I believe it to be a local MOD locks them, and anyone able to delete the spam reports does, as MODS can roam.

Edited: Grammar and wording for clarity

Nothing. Mind you i stopped hunting down manufacturers for product. If they cant be bothered to out in some effort for sales or community PR, then I'll do the same.

So i went with a manufacturer that delivers, and couldnt be happier atm.

Did you ever get more than a form letter generic response?

That system would likely benefit campaign managers who manage multiple shorter campaigns. This way they could have a pool of members that sign up with them and just have their SIG changed as a new campaign launches.

Longer running campaigns may decide to market this way and keep things fresh if this system were available, but not that often I imagine.

Personally I dont see much added benefit to the forum as a whole by implementing this. One reason is that account farmers and creators of spam bots might use this as a way to make their lives easier.

Thanks for the updates and actually testing out the system.

Shows how cloudmining really only works if you get in at a discount, or early which usually go hand in hand.

As for your loss- or just coins below min withdrawal. Are they stuck because you previously withdrew some or did you never get over the threshold because of maintenance fees?

Im just wondering if you could have paid the fees another way or from another wallet so that your coins werent stuck.

Yay. So definitely loving these machines.

They arrived Friday, in the worst possible way. Left on my porch for minimum 6 hours on a good old -30C day. Good times. Even better I had to show up at their location to find out.
I lay a lot of blame on DHL for this, as I knew I'd be near their local hub and requested a hold at location, instead they gave it to the local courier, who instead of holding delivered ... without signature.

So Friday night was just an unboxing and warm up/dryout in case. Tested 1 Saturday in the garage, then hooked both up Sunday.

1 unit was delivering 31.6 TH/S  The other was doing 30.5 TH/S pretty nice.

I am currently running the lesser in Low power mode, at approximately 15.8  up over 17 TH/S .

Hoping this continues nearing the 24 hour mark im hoping to get closer to the 20.

Payment was received. Thanks for being prompt.

Coins have been sent here's the txid.

6bdaeb7ca4e5c2cc7a342f99aafd03bc5970fbca20c19dcceece983c8a41bcaa

See you around the forum.

Hey there welcome back.

I nearly called this off this morning as i hadn't heard from you, but figured you were just busy.

No need to track down multisig or anything like that. I do have to be sticky on the offer of + 7.5%.

I know you want 1 to 1 but, i can sell above preev at anytime, i just have to wait a couple weeks longer to get my cash. I came to the number by figuring out what id lose if i went 1 to 1.

The offer to sell btc is really just a favor as i'd seen you looking for a while and knew I'd have some to sell. 

Let me know what you think.  You send the PP as friends and family, I'll send the BTC. No muss no fuss. I can make the deal in about 7 hours im just unavailable at the moment

Well 1 of 2 m10's are hadhing away. Just prepping the space so i can get the second online.

Pretty pumped to get myself over 100 TH once all is said and done. At least until spring, but a little luck and some planning i might be able to stay up there.

Sent you a PM.

Sorry the auction didn't get the attention you were looking for.

Thanks anyways, i enjoyed taking part and am looking forward to giving mine a new home.

Lot 13 - .0036 BTC

Lot 6, 23 - .0015 BTC

Hey there.

Can you post pictures with a handwritten note containing the date and your forum username.

It'll help if you specify if your accepting escrow, payment type and how shipping costs are handled.

This may help.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4576802.msg41268015#msg41268015

That would be due to the transient hashrate from large failovers. It can go both ways.

We had a large failover that nearly quadrupled the pool hashrate for a while. So they take a large portion of the block.

They still have to ramp up to full reward but it appears to take less time because they have such a big effect on overall hashrate. It's nice when they nail a block or 2 while failing over as I see it like a bit of a bonus. While still fair based on submitted shares it can feel disheartening when they failover and don't find a block.



And yay block! Mine on