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1961  Economy / Reputation / Re: Spreading FUD about bitcoin and shilling HEX on: April 12, 2019, 09:44:39 PM
Just my opinion but I think you should take a step back from tagging people. Not entirely, but it does feel like you are actively trying to search for new reasons to leave negative feedback. In contrast to coming about it organically through time and experience what you deem to be worthy of negative feedback. Ther eare areas where you are confident in your leaving of feedback and I would focus on that for a bit.

I say the above because this

And yes I noticed from my untrusted feedback. He/she left me negative feedback because I called scam to BitcoinSV. According to this user SV is potential coin, lets say he/she is right. So if someone call scam to SV he/she deserve negative feedback on his/her opinion. But if someone call scam to bitcoin then he/she is deserve negative feedback in my opinion.

If we are negging people here for a differing opinion then this is no longer a discussion forum. Obviously the majority of us disagree with them and they may just be trolling. Either way a difference of opinion should not result in a Neg. Personally I feel like most opinion and behaviors are deserving of a neutral as opposed to Neg or Pos feedback.

Just look at the feedback they left you. It seems really stupid right; and it was left solely because you differ with them on the opinion of a coin some people believe in.

In regards to the HEX stuff look into it. If it appears to be a scam, I like the approach Marlboroza took with similar scam promoters Iirc. Tag them with instructions on how to purge all advertising done at a minimum.That or warn them before the tag and give the same ultimatum.

Definitely report the referral link as that's against forum guidelines.

Again just my opinions, your feedback is your to do with as you please. Not trying to single you out just something that's been on my mind the past few days.
1962  Other / Meta / Re: A call to theymos and the rest. on: April 12, 2019, 04:55:56 PM
Back on topic. I strongly agree with the initial poster, in that the admin or even the board owner should intervene if there are instances where red trust is given out in a frivolous or vindictive manner.

No I disagree. The community needs to decide on these matters. If you feel DT has left you frivolous or unsubstantiated feedback, make your case. It's as simple as that, and the only way to shape the system to work for everyone. If people agree with what you say, it can be discussed with whoever left the feedback, and if people lose confidence in how they proceed, they just might get removed or excluded from enough lists to be removed from DT.

So without references or facts all that happens are these discussions that go around in circles.

I strongly agree with the initial poster, in that the admin or even the board owner should intervene if there are instances where red trust is given out in a frivolous or vindictive manner.

Admin doesn't need to intervene, the DT community has been doing a good job policing themselves.  Stick around long enough and you'll see members being dropped from DT2 when suspected of distributing tags for frivolous or vindictive reasons.  It's happened at least a couple of times in recent months.

Happened to me, got off shift found I had been tagged by a new DT. Went to bed, woke up and they had been removed based on their feedback standards being petty. So I firmly believe the system can be used and made to work for everyone, but we need people to actually participate.
1963  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: selling Bitmain Miners S9/S9i on: April 12, 2019, 04:51:57 PM
I believe you have to put it in like this "DefaultTrust". I removed it from my list in an effort to create my own custom trust list and expand on it as I see fit as I review feedback pages. It will still serve you well, just remember to check all ratings and references.

I only recently removed it, as the DT network has grown insanely large and there were to many users that I din't agree with their feedback standards. Not so much to exclude them all. I trust my judgement enough to build and tweak my list.

Good luck.
1964  Other / Meta / Re: Is Merit Requirement Per Rank Excessive? on: April 12, 2019, 04:40:45 PM
The above means less than 95 people have become hero members, I know only a small handful of people have become legendary. I don’t know off hand how many have become senior members but I am pretty sure it isn’t many.

Rank up thread - This thread documents users who have ranked up, usually updated weekly I believe.

Legendary - 11
Hero - 43
Senior - 108
Full - 183

I don't know that we need to change the requirements. So what if you don't get to Hero in under 2 years. You can still actively participate in all aspects of the forum. There are also a lot of resources out there to gain merit, even coming to Meta and bitching about it.

The key is as long as people can review your posts and find something objectively good you will receive some merit. I would keep the requirements where they are but might consider adding some more sources for a more concentrated effect. I'm sure we could see statistically where merit doesn't flow, perhaps we could find out first if the board has anything merit worthy. Next maybe nominate a source who frequents that area, better yet who only really frequents that area. Some local boards could benefit.

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I would also point out that I had extensive knowledge about bitcoin when the merit system was introduced, which probably increased the amount of merit I received. This would not be the case for the average person.
I'm pretty sure your red trust discourages people from meriting you, otherwise you'd probably have had much more by now.

I would have to agree with that. It probably doesn't help that QS does tend to have a differing opinion with quite a few of the most generous merit givers. Which can lead to overlooking a quality post due to disagreeing with the message.
1965  Other / Meta / Re: A call to theymos and the rest. on: April 12, 2019, 04:24:40 PM
I'm not going to pretend I'm blind to people's faults and foibles, but it's hard to know what you're talking about without knowing who you're referring to.  And I have no clue what you mean with point #2 above, using people as bait to earn merit.  You'll have to explain that one.  Same thing with #3.

I think #2 relates to the uptick in activity in reputation threads. The ones where someone either posts a very flimsy connection of alts or suspected merit abuse. I know reading some of the threads or comments, I get the feel that it's done in the hopes of gaining merit. Probably doesn't help when people create threads offering merit to connect accounts, "I'll reward you for telling me what I want to know"

#3 could be inline with the last bit or possibly the "tag alongs" I've noticed some members who pretty much only mirror feedback. Maybe they'll change or update but I think quite a few people took to this strategy to work towards DT. Might just be my impression as I've been reviewing a lot of feedback recently.



I don't really agree with the pleas to administrators. It does show me you don't really have a grasp on how the forum operates in regards to set rules from the top down. Easy mistake most of us take a while to figure out this place is different in that regard. You would be better making your appeal to the general forum members and engaging in the debate with references to get your point across.

I can say this I wish you would express your ideas from your main account. If you haven't done anything that clearly deserves a negative rating it would only help clean out members who shouldn't be "Trusted for fedback" in DT, if anyone tagged you for an unpopular opinion.
1966  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: selling Bitmain Miners S9/S9i on: April 12, 2019, 02:19:27 PM
Yes you would have to list everybody individually; this again would only show you all feedback and a trust score calculated based on that. I wouldn't recommend doing this though, it defeats the purpose of the system for yourself. Doing this also would lead people to question your judgement in managing your trust network; not really an issue unless you wind up on DT through voting at some point.

That is unless you trust the way these people leave all of their feedback, or who they have included in their own trust lists. If you do go this route I would suggest that you leave "Default trust" in your list until you have time to build a larger custom trust list. Otherwise you will be flying blind in regards to other peoples feedback unless you take the time to review their untrusted feedback.

Either way thought is your list and you can manage it to suit your needs. Just know it's not necessary to make those changes. Also as long as when you leave feedback for a trade, with a good reference that helps people even if the other party doesn't leave feedback. Personally I check untrusted feedback at the same time as trusted anytime I'm going to deal with someone.

Good luck. Hope that all makes sense
1967  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: selling Bitmain Miners S9/S9i on: April 12, 2019, 05:00:33 AM
That would only change how someone would see their own trust score.

No one can control how others see the feedback others have left them. The tilde only excludes that persons feedback from showing for you, not others viewing your profile.
1968  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: selling Bitmain Miners S9/S9i on: April 12, 2019, 04:03:43 AM
Sounds good.

Just a heads up that by including them in your trust list, their feedback only affects how you see your trust score.

The idea of including them in your trust list means you trust the feedback readings they leave in general. The only feedback that shows to everyone by default is left by DT1 or DT2. Unless users remove "default trust" from their trust list.

There are some threads in meta that cover trust in greater detail.
1969  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: veri escrow on: April 11, 2019, 07:29:20 PM
You're probably right. It just happened to be something that caught my eye, and I just reacted. It does seem to be the stupidest thing ever on the face of it but you never know.

If this is connected with that 2 merit post, then this is a new level of trolling. Either way I tried.

I don't know if Blazed escrows or not anymore, I don't really shop around and tend to just go with OgNasty if needed.
1970  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: selling Bitmain Miners S9/S9i/S9j on: April 11, 2019, 07:19:14 PM
awesome! thanks for the purchase - if possible please give positive trust - I see zero still Smiley

They left you feedback. You need to look under your untrusted feedback to see it as they are not a DT member, or they are not within your custom trust network.

Good luck with the rest of your sales.
1971  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTB] Broken/Damaged gpu's (EU) on: April 11, 2019, 07:15:43 PM
Here's a thread where they are selling water damaged GPU's. Might be what you are looking for.
[WTS][EU] water damages RX 580 - 10€ each
1972  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: veri escrow on: April 11, 2019, 12:27:59 AM
do not fall for that

This is very likely a scam. Do not send that user money, as I believe they are impersonating Blazed

Put more details of what you are trying to do here, there are plenty of real members providing escrow.
1973  Economy / Goods / Re: iPhone X 256GB for sale good price on: April 11, 2019, 12:08:11 AM
Well seeing as you aren't willing to use forum trusted Escrow I suggest you stick to listing your items on the other platforms.

We have to many scammers coming in here, with very similar stories and threads. In the end when they suck someone into an off forum deal the end result is generally them getting ripped off.

Perhaps once you've spent some time here and seen this work, you'll be more comfortable selling here.

Edit: I didn't see the last post from the potential buyer. This definitely fits in with the scams we've seen here. Magically the item sells as soon as an escrow is being set up.
1974  Other / Archival / Re: [RAFFLE] Thanks for participating in my raffles FULL on: April 10, 2019, 06:49:01 PM
This is what I like most about the forum, members sharing with each other and wishing good luck for each other.  Makes my day Smiley

Agreed. It's this vibe that had me coming back to collectibles and lurking around, well that and all the shiny's  Wink. It's nice to break up the drama that hits every now and then.

So again thanks anonymousminer for hosting, and congrats to jackbauercsgo.
1975  Other / Archival / Re: [RAFFLE] Thanks for participating in my raffles 15/16 spots left on: April 10, 2019, 04:41:42 PM
All are welcome....

Well in that case I'll take  #5

Thanks for hosting this.

Edit : Just saw the random I'll grab "C" instead
1976  Other / Archival / Re: [RAFFLE] Thanks for participating in my raffles 15/16 spots left on: April 10, 2019, 04:35:56 PM
Price per spot? I haven't been in any of your raffles, so if it's an appreciation thing I'll leave it for those that have. Good luck.
1977  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain introduces the Antminer S17 Pro, Antminer S17, and the Antminer T17 on: April 10, 2019, 03:35:20 PM
This is good for s17s or s15s.
We may move all other gear to super build and load Clifton with all s17s.
Would be nice to have 36 s17s doing 50 th a piece.

Damn Phil. That sounds amazing. It's nice to see you guys finding so many opportunities to grow. Works out nicely that it's happening amidst all this crazy efficient gear.
1978  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Innosilicon Terminator 3 on: April 10, 2019, 02:22:51 PM
I was just checking in on Inno, looks like after the last announcement they dropped the price of the T3 model. No mention on expected ship date.

Not giving it away by any means but I'd say the 39 TH model isn't to bad, if you don't mind giving up some efficiency.

39 TH model 1200 USD
43 TH model 1500 USD
1979  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [WANT TO FIND] Missing Fattcatt Auction PICS INSIDE HAVE A LOOK on: April 09, 2019, 08:52:35 PM
While the item/auction was above my paygrade here. I wouldn't focus on trying to tweak the rules or accepted practices that seem to work for most users here without apparent abuse. Perhaps instead just change how auctions hosted by Fattcatt are approached.

Impose your own stipulations for participating in their auctions. For example - Item to be held in Escrow. No cancellation policy.
The key would be to impose only enough rules to ensure your time isn't being wasted.

Apart from that it does seem like a shitty way and reason to pull an auction out, considering someone had already bid and shown interest. Following it up with BS negative feedback is ridiculous, considering the past trades. I'm curious did they delete positive feedback from the trade? I ask because I saw your feedback for them.
1980  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Pangolin Whatsminer M10 - 33TH at 2145W on: April 09, 2019, 07:40:17 PM
Well here's to hoping, I should have mine in the garage soon.  Summer does get warm and i only cool using ambient outside air, so at it's worst 35 celsius for a few days but high 20's for a good 6 weeks.

I can't say i watched it to closely, but i don't recall a jump in hashrate like that. I had a few times the basement was easily mid to high 20's .

Looks like you got the hardware lottery. Ill definitely keep an eye on mine especially the one that has only been in the cold garage.
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