+1 to that. Podcasts / just reading the news always conveys a lot more information then people sitting on TV and yelling stuff at me for hours.

The thing with a Podcast / Article is that it kinda has to do a somewhat good job in delivering the story that was advertised. When you're watching the news I don't have any control over what stories I'm going to see or hear about, but on a Podcast I can just click whatever I want or on an article I can do the same.

Removes a large amount of the bias, but not all of it. Still on you to pick who you're going to spend your time with.

That's not a jab at Fox in particular, I'm just not a big fan of watching people on TV make a big spectacle of things. Would much rather take a deeper dive and read the news from WSJ, NY Times, etc. I feel like you remove some portions of the sensational side of talking heads in the typical media.

Different strokes for different folks though, nothing wrong with that.

Just a bit of an update here, it is possible for the Judge to reject this and to continue the case if he wants to. Pretty stunning to see the DOJ come out and do something like this, no one was expecting this in the least.

This is the portion where the US DOJ is moving to dismiss the case:

We'll be waiting on what happens with Sullivan (the judge) in the case. He doesn't have a ton of power to reject, he'd have to prove a lot as there is a good amount of precedent on the topic regarding trial judges, but it is still possible.

Or ya know, you don't even need a bunker. Just stay in your house and have food delivered, or go to the grocery store with a mask on.

Your house is the best you're going to get in a time like this, honestly. Just take the proper precatuions and you're most likely going to be okay. Even if you're young and get the Coronavirus you're going to be fine, just don't interact with those at risk.

Just to start, I identify myself as a conservative.

Wouldn't that go the same way if Conservatives were going farther and farther to the right? The people on the left would look more moderate. You're literally arguing based on your own viewpoint, that's it. I would assume that Twitchy and Flying Hellfish would both sit here and argue that the people on the left are moderate while the people on the right are bat shit crazy.

It's not that we're just focused on one thing and not another because of priorities, we're just focused on the Coronavirus because it has come out of left field, has a pretty high mortality rate for those that are in the high risk groups (older, diabetes, heart issues, etc) We don't have much research on the Coronavirus as well, while we have a good amount of research on the Hantavirus.

The Hantavirus is something that we've had outbreaks on and we know how to ensure that it won't spread. Not the same regarding the Coronavirus.

I'd have to agree with this as well, we're not going to start a war over the Coronavirus (which is not the case of this OP) and we're not going to start a war over some minor issue regarding China trying to takeover areas in the South China Sea. I'm pretty sure I've read the articles saying that China is building islands - yes, building Islands - to be used for defense and control purposes.

The most we're going to see is sanctions due to Chinas inaction during the Coronavirus. That's it.

Typical thing for law enforcement to do, they'll tell you that you don't need a lawyer and its kinda on you to figure out if you should have a lawyer present. I think the issue with him is that he was most likely under the impression that he was there regarding an administration matter, and nothing that would come back to haunt him personally.

But yes I did see that he had to put his house up for sale and all that, that's rough. Tough part of the US legal system is that everyday it feels like more and more that its on you to prove innocence instead of the prosecutor having to prove guilt.

Guy has spent years defending himself, and he has to spend LARGE deals of money paying for lawyers. Pretty sure you can't sue a legal entitiy for false accusation, cause then they'd be charging no one with crimes.

Charges against Michael Flynn have just been dropped by the DOJ. Top prosecutor in the case removed himself earlier this Thursday, and all of this is following the release of the memos from the FBI. These have been discussed in these threads already, but the Flynn team have said that these memos (from the FBI) show that the FBI was wrong in how they went about some portions of their investigation.

I know some are not going to be a big fan of Fox here, but this is the best I could do on a breaking news story - https://www.foxnews.com/politics/drops-doj-case-against-michael-flynn-in-wake-of-internal-memo-release

Yeah that's where you open up to another issue, if the ship needs to be refueled, needs fresh water, and needs food delivered to it every so often -- all you're doing is opening up the window for an infection, and once when occurs on the ship you're screwed.

The only real way to social distance on a ship is to be sitting in your room and having food delivered -- which yet again is opening up another avenue for infections to spread. Cruise ships are going to have to be closed for a bit.

Probably possible to win the seat in Georgia, cant see a win in Mississippi though. Kinda only saying IL and HI because of Barrack Obama living in HI as a child, and being the former senator from IL.

Georgia is really possible though when you think about it. Stacey Abrams was VERY close to winning the state, I wouldn't be surprised if Michelle could get that last half a percent to pull off a win.

Though all of this is saying that she wants to do it. They probably earned enough favors to be able to live off for their lives. They'll be fine with all the movie deals, book deals, and consulting for companies if needed.

+1 to this, unsure on why we'd freak out about Hantavirus when we have a large amount of control, and information regarding it. This isn't like the Coronavirus where there are many many MANY unknowns, this is a virus that we have a good amount of data and research on.

Here's the info from the CDC regarding the Hantavirus - https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/index.html - Outbreaks in 2017 and 2012 in the US.

We'll be alright, just staying sanitary will help here. Pretty much helps in all walks of life.

I honestly missed the fact that he attacked me, but I see it now. Not going to quote what he said cause who cares.

Unsure on why I was even attacked so personally though. I'm literally talking about the fact that I don't think the best way forward is to open up the economy right now. I think we need to take more time to keep places closed and to establish plans for opening the economy. Yes, some people are going to lose money here, but I'd rather have people lose money then have more people die.

Maybe I'm wrong, and I accept that, but I don't think that any of the personal attacks are needed here. At ALL.

Kids would just meme the shit out of her joining the campaign, talking about how she would take their good food away. The kids that she 'took' the food away from are going to be voting this year I'm pretty sure, so yeah.

But you're totally right about this being suicidal to start a political campaign from. If she wants to start, work your way up from the rep / senate level in your state (IL) where they're very popular. (Pretty sure they're more popular in IL then HI)

I understand that things have changed, yes, but these thinkers are now deemed Republican and Conservative and that's what people are going to refer to them as. If liberal people with similiar thoughts to RBG was appointed and confirmed to the court, we would say that the court is moving towards the left.

Unsure on what your argument really is here. I feel like this is an argument for just the sake of arguing.

Safe haven? No, no way at all. The only way you'd be able to make a claim like this is if you were able to effectively test people and then MAYBE cruises would be safer.

If you are able to test everyone before they get on a cruise, and test the entire cruise ship for any remnants of the virus, then yes this COULD be a cruise ship. Cruise ships are the worst possible spot to be in todays environment, you have no idea where people are coming from and if they have the virus AND if they go off the ship and interact with someone who has it.

I'm totally going to have to disagree with this. Who in gods fucking name is asking for Michelle Obama to be on the ticket, I think we're pretty sure that not even Michelle Obama wants that to be the case.

Obama is incredibly popular within the democratic party yes, but Michelle Obama is just his wife. That's all. That's like saying just because Bill Clinton was a very popular President then Hillary Clinton has a LOCK on the presidency. We know she didn't, as she lost the Democratic primary in 2008 (to Obama) and lost the Presidential Election to Trump in 2016.

Kamala supported some HEAVY conservative policies (at least at the time) when she was the AG for California, which is actually one of the big reasons that African American people hate her.

Lol, the Ivanka comment. I'm expecting another term for Trump and for him to move the court further to the right -- or to cement the fact that the court is going to have a conservative balance for the next 20 or so years.

Come on guys, you can't be so conservative (or right) to the point of thinking conservative thinkers are moderates.

Now this is some breaking fucking news, holy shit. If RGB goes (and theres been so many rumors for so long now) then the court is going to be pushed to the right for decades upon decades to come.

I know me and you are going to disagree on the pick if there is one, though I do truly hope that RGB gets better -- I wouldn't wish death upon anyone.

This is going to be insane. We'll be chatting here in the coming days as further updates come out.

Heh, lol. Honestly took me a second to catch it, but then it clicked. Biden has so many gaffes it's hard to remember and keep track of them. Instead of Bushism's I think we should start saying Bidenism's

But I'd have to agree with TwitchySeal here, I doubt this is some long drawn out idea from everyone. Why in gods name would Michelle Obama want to be BIDENS VP -- there's really nothing there. Biden is a senile guy who I highly doubt is going to be able to drive voters to the polls. The guy isn't too interesting, and really has an enthusiasm problem with his voters.