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2561  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: New HW wallet announced: COLDCARD Q1 on: February 10, 2023, 03:21:41 PM
Makes you wonder if the cost and weight of a more durable screen on a device like this matters as much as on a phone.
I was  actually talking about smartphones, I don't like what they are turning into Cheesy
I could understand bigger screen if hardware wallet was designed like Keystone or like upcoming 1inch wallet that have gorilla glass protection.
Using very very large size hardware wallets I can't really understand, especially if they are thick like a brick.

If you have a lot of funds stored on the wallet secured by it, IMO your hardware wallet should be locked in your desk / safe / wherever and pulled out when you need to move them. And you have the seed backed up securely someplace else anyway.
Most of the people probably keep hardware wallets at home, but in some cases you need to travel and cross border with them.
My thinking is that credit card style hardware wallets is ideal for this situations, not big brick you carry in your big pocket.

What a lot more wallets need, and other then the keystone I don't know of any, is a 'self destruct' when taken apart so you can't attack them by taking them apart and getting to the SE. BUT the other side of that is you can't take them apart to fix them either.
Maybe, but than you would have to trust manufacturer they are telling the truth about self-destruction.
Mnay times it's just a security theater like in case with Safepal, and I remember people managed to easily bypass Cobo (now Keystone) self-destruction mechnism.
2562  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Backup on mobile Electrum on: February 10, 2023, 02:52:45 PM
I wanted to do a file backup on mobile Electrum but I was unable to. This is the error
Don't you already have seed words as offline backup written on paper that was generated when you first started Electrum wallet?
Importing that should work just fine in desktop wallet or any other smartphone, unless you want to backup labels and other data from Electrum.
I am not a big fan of Electrum mobile wallet, their desktop wallet is much better product.

What is causing the error?
This error is certainly related with your device app permission.
2563  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Localbitcoins closing down on: February 10, 2023, 02:24:49 PM
For those who don't mind going through KYC what are the best alternatives now? Any suggestions?
Probably something like Binance p2p exchange, but I don't see why you would use kyc when there are alternatives that work fine without it (Bisq, AgoraDesk, HoldHodl).
If you want something that looks similar like LocalBitcoins, than you can check out Localcoinswap.com or Paxful.com.
Just make sure you read the terms before signing up for any of this platforms.
2564  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: [VELIKA LISTA] Hardverski novčanici (80+) on: February 10, 2023, 12:54:16 PM
Dolazi nam još jedan novi zanimljiv hardverski novčanik ColdCard Q1 koji dosta izgleda kao stari Blackberry phone Smiley
Kao i kod ostalih Coldcard harverskih novčanika, podržana kriptovala je samo Bitcoin, tako da ovo nije novčanik za vas ako imate shitcoine.
Trenutno možete samo rezervirati ColdCard Q1 za $200, ali nije sigurno kada će biti dostavljeni kupcima.
Poboljšanja u odnosu na starije uređaje su QWERTY tipkovnica, veći ekran, sva MicroSD slota, tri AAA baterije, QR skener, a ostalo je slično kao kod ColdCard mk4 modela.


https://coldcard.com/
https://coldcard.com/docs/coldcard-q1
2565  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Secure Element in Hardware Wallets on: February 10, 2023, 11:27:52 AM
Hi all! Wanted to share a Twitter Spaces we at Foundation hosted a few weeks back about secure elements; we dove into some nuances. Check it out: https://twitter.com/FOUNDATIONdvcs/status/1617879545708961792
I will probably listen this talk but since it's one hour long it would be a good idea to have this released as written article somewhere, maybe on your blog page.
Problem I have with Passport hardware wallet is that it is still using outdated secure element ATECC608A, same one that is used in OneKey hardware wallet that was recently hacked by Unciphered.
I don't think chip shortage is such a big issue anymore, so it's probably time to replace it with something better.
 
2566  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: New HW wallet announced: COLDCARD Q1 on: February 10, 2023, 11:05:30 AM
I am quite flattered by Coldcard's new direction; it certainly seems like a direct response to our 2021 Passport Founder's Edition.
They are even repeating the exact same mistake you did with triple A batteries, and that back design for Q1 is really ugly in my opinnion.
I am almost certain we are going to see ColdCard Q2 after this, that will have similar batteries like you are using in current Passport device Smiley

One interesting thing we noticed is that it's about 4x6 inches, almost an inch thick (you can do the estimation yourself knowing the screen is 3.2 inches diagonal). I think many users will be surprised by the sheer size of the device. It's certainly not pocketable.
Did they release any dimensions for ColdCard Q1?
It's bet if they can release how it looks when someone holds it in hand, but in their defense I would have to say that most modern smartphones are far from being small and ''pocketable''.
I don't like this direction at all, but people like big screens (that crack easy).

Additionally, I think I found the QR scanner part they are using. This means the QR scanner is essentially a standalone black box computer running proprietary code. It also means that there will be no viewfinder on the Q1 screen: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Embedded-1D-2D-Image-Barcode-Scanner_62478427468.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_title.2e971000ZaPAEz&s=p
Admit that you came back in bitcointalk forum, after being triggered by release of new ColdCard Q1... I found your conflict really amuzing, can't wait for NVK to join the party soon and talk more about QR code scanner and device dimensions.
Speaking about code, Coldcard doens't care at all about being open source, so it' doesn't matter f they use propriety code.
In their defense again, secure element you are using in Passport is also not open source and it has security issues, that is why it was outdated by manufacturer Wink
2567  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Trezor CoinJoin Testing on: February 10, 2023, 10:54:02 AM
Model One does not even support Monero.  I doubt it will handle Coin Joins properly.  It seems like it can pretty much only handle the very basics before its hardware throttles.
You are right and I was thinking the same thing, but I was not expecting ancient Trezor One device to be one trick pony Wink
If I was in Trezor team I would make new device with similar price (code name Trezor2) that could do everything like Trezor model T but in same old Trezor One package.
This should be possible with upgraded processor and small design changes, but I would still keep Trezor One active for firmware updates.

Based on this "pull request", I think their upcoming model that "I mentioned in the past" might actually be the improved version of Model One.
I think this new Trezor model R is going to be their new generation wallet with their own secure element, and I am sure it's going to be much more expensive than current wallets they are offering.

Even though it makes sense from a development and financial point of view they focus in the news generation, some people (like me) spending over 200$ for a cold wallet is a bit out of the budget...
I could agree with you few years ago, but with raging inflation and increased prices of everything we saw in last few years, $200 today is not the same like $200 few years ago.
And if someone is holding several Bitcoins than I see no reason why this amount of money would be such a big problem, but then again I always remember this meme:





EDIT:
Dates and times for Trezor CoinJoin testing are:
- February 15, 15:00 UTC
- February 22, 17:00 UTC
2568  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [LIST] Open Source Hardware Wallets on: February 10, 2023, 09:37:46 AM
oh sorry I was convinced you had a OneKey, thanks anyway for answering some of my questions. I'll take a closer look at your list, I've been getting paranoid about closed source hw lately and was hoping to get some advice on the buying an open source one
I wanted to buy one for my testing when it was dirt cheap, but I gave up on that idea and I didn't want to wait for delivery from China.
Open source doesn't automatically mean that something is more secure, it's easier for secure experts to inspect the code to find bugs, but that can also be done by malicious actors.
You might want to read up the latest post I wrote about OneKey wallet:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439320.0
2569  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / OneKey Hardware Wallet HACKED! on: February 10, 2023, 09:30:48 AM


Another day and another hardware wallet hacked, this time it was open source device OneKey, biggest manufacturer of hardware wallets in China.
OneKey was forked from original Trezor code and they added secure element ATECC608A, but they obviously didn't do a good job with that, as it was explained in this short video clip.

This vulnerability was discovered by company called Unciphered, known for helping people unlock their crypto wallets, and for this job they received $10,000 bug bounty reward from OneKey.
Seed phrase was easily extracted by doing man in the middle attack, and inserting chip between processor and secure element, after that it took only one second to extract all seed words.
It's important to say that this bug is now fixed with firmware update, but problem is that many hardware wallets available today share the same code (based on Trezor) so they could also be affected.


Video by Unciphered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8OrakRJmHE

Eric Michaud, the founder of Unciphered said that hardware wallets can often times give people a false sense of security, thinking that wallet can't be hacked.
He also said that there could be a problem with many other hardware wallets because manufacturers recycle the same code base for their products.
Article about this was first released on Fortune Crypto website:
https://archive.is/S1Nwo

OneKey released official reply on their blog page, and they said how these attacks cannot be exploited remotely, and attackers need to have physical access to device.
It's interesting to see them claiming how other ''world-renowned hardware vendors'' had similar problem but they didn't say anything about it, because they are not open source (Ledger comes to my mind first).
They plan to improve security for future devices by introducing EAL6+ higher level of security, but I would be careful with their devices in future.
https://archive.ph/1qg0h

Good thing about this bug was that nobody lost any coins, because evil hackers didn't found out first about it, but it's a good reminder to everyone, don't blindly trust any device just because it is open source and it has secure element.
Don't trust, verify.

2570  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [LIST] Open Source Hardware Wallets on: February 09, 2023, 08:02:40 PM
I think it's time for me to change hardware wallet, this time I would like to take an Open source hardware wallet that doesn't cost much, I looked at your list and the onekey classic caught my attention, it looks like a good device but I would like to ask what do you think? Are the updates regular? does the battery have a long life? Or would you recommend a different wallet?
I don't own OneKey hardware wallet so I can't answer everything you want, but I know they are forked from Trezor wallet with added secure element ATECC608A.
They are making regular updates for their native OneKey app, but not all of their devices have battery, only OneKey Classic 100 mAh and OneKey Touch 800 mAh.
I am not going to recommend any hardware wallet, you have the list with more information, and you can make your own decision based on your needs and coins your use.
2571  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: February 09, 2023, 07:28:07 PM
Jesi li imao priliku da isprobaš aplikaciju već? Pitam jel na stranici piše da trenutno ne primaju nove beta testere već moraš ostaviti svoj email pa će te naknadno kontaktirati.
Kakve su impresije i ima li već nekog značajnog volumena trgovanja?
Nisam još dovršio testiranje, ali uradio sam mali mađioničarski trik i preuzeo sam APK fajl sa njihove stranice.
Za sada ima opcija za samo nekoliko EU zemalja sa lokal opcijom, ali postoji i Bank Transfer, Paypal, Revolut i Wise za online wallet, i Amazon Gift cards.
Mislim da bi ovo moglo dobro funkcionirati i mnogo je lakše za korištenje nego LocalBitcoin i slične p2p web stranice.

 
https://peachbitcoin.com/beta.html

PS
Koristite na vlastitu odgovornost i rizik... I am not your financial advisor Cheesy
2572  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Securing Your Seed Phrase with Washers on: February 09, 2023, 07:09:52 PM
We've seen with the recent earthquakes how important it can be to have a seed phrase backup that can withstand some damage.
One of the reasons I like to use one washer per 24-word seed backup and large washers is that the end result is relatively large and bulky, so you could find it again in such a scenario.
LoyceV tactics of putting paper backup inside walls wouldn't end very well in this earthquake scenario, but I don't think slightly larger washers would make much difference.
Only thing that would work in events like this is if you have multiple backups distributed in different locations, different cities, regions or even countries.
We could argue that living in house is much better option than living in tall buildings, and if you want to hide anything, digging a hole in your backyard or near your favorite tree/flower would be much better.

I'm actually in the process of doing it, and not just for my Bitcoin, but other things like certain credentials. However, my threat model isn't as extreme as some of the options here, since I live in a relatively stable area which doesn't have too many hazards.
Stable can quickly turn to unstable, and it doesn't have to be natural disasters.
I know some people who are having big problems with immigrants, police are not doing anything about them, they are armed, they are dealing drugs, and doing all kinds of shit.
They look more like armed forces ready to be deployed on command.

When I was referring to threats I was thinking about legal ones, like government banning bitcoin possessions, or legal ones (an asset seizure from government) or a search warrant of your belongings.
Not just natural disasters, rather self-inflicted ones!
They banned gold in past, so nothing would surprise me anymore.
2573  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Localbitcoins closing down on: February 09, 2023, 06:31:54 PM
Doing trades on there before kyc was really slick. They were a great dex when I used them (similar in style to bisq now iirc) but then regulations came...
It's sad to see one of the oldest Bitcoin p2p trading websites going down like this, but this was expected after they accepted mandatory kyc regulations on their platfrom.
In future we are going to have to pick sides and I don't see any reason to use websites like LocalBitcoin if they have kyc verification.
I am not worried about this news at all, there are several alternative options for p2p trading that work just fine now, and for all others there are always centralized exchanges.
This is obviously related to latest Operation Choke Point 2.0 that was started by US administration, to make life harder for all crypto to fiat connections.
2574  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: New HW wallet announced: COLDCARD Q1 on: February 09, 2023, 04:46:04 PM
Looks to be interesting. Lets see how it really turns out.
Basically a MK4 cold card with a larger screen and real keyboard and a few other features but the underlying hardware is the same.
And where the price really winds up in the end. It's $200 pre-order. Who knows if it will actually stay that way.
I thought this was some kind of Blackberry joke first, but then I remembered it was not April 1st.
It's obvious to me they are concerned with their main competition Passport wallet, so they decided to go with this phone look direction instead of old calculator style, but having 3xAAA batteries is a big mistake in my opinion.
Similar thing with batteries was done by Keystone essentials and Passport wallet first edition, and it didn't work very well for both of them.
Good thing to see that this year is going to be very interesting for hardware wallets, now we have Coldcard Q1, and new Keystone and Trezor should also come out.
2575  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitcoin ATM Operator Coin Cloud Files for Bankruptcy on: February 09, 2023, 04:08:10 PM
Seems like yet another big name in crypto won't survive this bear market as Coin Cloiud (according to coinatmradar the world's 2nd biggest ATM operator in the world) filed for bankruptcy, owning between $100 million and $500 million.
It looks like this happened because of their connection with Genesis Global Trading who had financial problems recently and they are one of the biggest creditors for CoinCloud.
I don't think CoinCloud have any Bitcoin ATM's in Europe, and most of them are located in North and South America.
Maybe there is still hope someone could buy them for a good discount price and ATM's could continue operating with rebranding.

I've used Bitcoin ATM for years while there were no better (cheaper) options to buy & sell bitcoin but then competition started showing up that can offer lower fees, making me using BATM only as a last resort and I think that many (at least in my country) do the same so I am not surprised at all to see that companies that offer those services are having troubles.
I think having Bitcoin ATM option is still very important, maybe they don't offer lowest fees but sometimes this is the quickest way to exchange Bitcoin for cash.
2576  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: [VELIKA LISTA] Hardverski novčanici (80+) on: February 09, 2023, 03:37:40 PM
Našao sam još jedan novi hardverski novčanik Ammer Card u formatu pametne (NFC) kartice.
Ova kartica se može kupiti za 99 CHF (€100) i podržane kriptovalute su Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, Polygon, Ton, BNB, Celo, Waves, ERC20, USDT, USDC...
Ammer card izgleda kao obična kreditna kartica, ali ne može raditi na normalnim bankomatima, već samo na njihovim Ammer pay terminalima.
Privatni ključevi se balaze na kartici u sigurnosnom elementu sa EAL6+ certifikatom.


https://ammer.cards/

PS
FatFork možda bi mogao ukloniti Kune i ostaviti samo Euro ili Dolar za sve hardverske novčanike.
2577  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: February 09, 2023, 03:13:04 PM
Nisam iznenađen što ovo čujem za LocalBitcoins, nakon što su uveli obaveznu kyc verifikaciju njihova lividnost je stalno opadala, a sigurno su imali i problema sa regulacijom.
Nedavno sam čuo za alternativu koja se zove Peachbitcoin.com, p2p trading app, za sad je open beta, bez kyc verifikacije, super je za EU.
A postoji i Bisq, AgoraDesk i druge opcije.
2578  Other / Meta / Re: Ban evasion clarification! on: February 09, 2023, 02:56:06 PM
This is not the first time some member is doing ban evasion and he does not get banned by moderators.
I remember few years ago I posted clear proof and connection between accounts (address and social media), that guy created many accounts but most of them never got banned.
As for IP bans, they are far from perfect, because I know some examples of people who tried to register in forum for the first time and they received evil fee message.

Being honest Im  bigger contribution to the forum than the Yahoo guy.
Yeah sure, I think you deserve a medal for your contribution in stupidity, and you write forum posts like a real cave man.

P.S. The user has now been banned for ban evasion.
Just remember his special style of writing, I am sure we are going to see him again soon.
2579  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Trezor CoinJoin Testing on: February 08, 2023, 09:41:46 PM
I hope Satoshilabs can find a solution to give support to its original model, it would be a pity if they started to neglect it right when the most exciting parts of this technology are supposed to be at the reach of those with a tight budget.
I don't think they are neglecting Trezor One model, but coinjoin transactions need more processing power with memory and model One is getting old for that.
It's more likely they are going to focus on supporting new generation Trezor hardware wallet and Trezor Model T, but I wouldn't mind if they release Trezor model Two with small upgrades.
I am certainly not going to buy Trezor Model T for more than $200 just because of new CoinJoin feature.


2580  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gavin Andresen calls it a "mistake" to trust CSW on: February 08, 2023, 08:25:35 PM
to be fair, if Gavin were concealing his original reasons for giving Craig Wright the thumbs-up, ill intent is only one possibility. If we don't know his reason(s), then that's as much as we may ever know
Or Gavin was simply blinded by CSW charisma Wink
I wonder did Gavin also played a lot of games with certain government agency as well, and could that affect his judgement as well?

Anyway, I see more bad new for Craig Wright as he just lost his Bitcoin copyright claim in UK court, but I am sure that won't stop him going to more courts in future:
https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/02/08/craig-wright-loses-bitcoin-copyright-claim-in-uk-court/
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