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1121  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 15, 2022, 05:35:23 PM
This is very interesting comparison of bitcoin price verses addresses holding more then 10k$ worth of bitcoin.
You can see when price of bitcoin touched 69k$ on 11 Nov 2021, the addresses have gone done. That means Whales were in selling mood at that time. Now as price has gone down, whales are once again accumulating bitcoins.
Key Takeaway: whales are called whales because of this reason.

My few satoshis that I extracted from this graph.



Image source

You and the twitter guy both seem to misinterpret the graph.
It is not the graph of people with more than $10K in a wallet, it is a graph of wallets with more than 10K bitcoin.
Naturally, as the total number of bitcoin got mined from 0% to 90%, the number of such wallets should rise in the graph just like that.
Additionally, one can conclude that large whales were selling/distributing bitcoin since 2016.
Their slice of the pie is melting, which is a natural progression as well, correlating with an exponential increase in wallets containing 0.1-1 btc (shown in prior discussions and here: https://coingape.com/retail-bitcoin-holders-with-balance-0-01-0-1-btc-reaches-new-high/).
some additional stats are here (check the references as well):
https://bitcoinist.com/how-many-people-actually-have-at-least-1-bitcoin/

Here is what I have to say on this matter.
The graph says "number of addresses with balance >10k" vs "bitcoin price". It doesnt matter how many bitcoin wallet has, a wallet will be counted as long as it has more then balance of 10k. For instance, if wallet has 0.42 bitcoins or more then its counted, as 0.42 bitcoin equals 10,000$ (as of today). On same ground, on 19 Nov 2021 when price of bitcoin was at 69K then those address that have 0.14 or more bitcoins will be included in that graph as on that day 0.14 bitcoins equals 10,000$.

https://coingape.com/retail-bitcoin-holders-with-balance-0-01-0-1-btc-reaches-new-high/
Data here is about wallets having balance in terms of bitcoins i.e. 0.01 - 0.1 and its prior to June 2021. So we don't have data about how things were when Bitcoin was at its ATH (19 Nov 2021) versus current rate.

I tried to find that myself on glassnode but since I don't have a premium account, I get access to data till 14 August 2021 not latest one.
Again just my few cents that I extracted from my little research. Suggestions / Corrections are welcome.  


On the left is the number of wallets...on the right is the price.
Does the number 100, 60, 40...say anything.? Of course it does..it says that they are talking about the number of wallets with >10K bitcoins (not $$).
Do you think that there are only about 100 wallets with more than $10K?
Of course, not, there are probably about a million of such wallets according to https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html
1122  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 15, 2022, 04:14:18 PM
An interesting read:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/three-arrows-capital-kyle-davies-su-zhu-crash.html

Quote
“I suspect they might be 80 percent of the total original contagion,” says Sam Bankman-Fried

Exaaactly..the whole bear was suspiciously swift coming from the no-blowoff situation.
There was a blowoff, but it was located in a large part in this fund (plus Celsius).
Small bitcoin wallets had no bear market features whatsoever (as far as growth in accounts).
One possible conclusion is that the recovery might be swifter than in 2014-2015.
1123  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 15, 2022, 02:28:29 AM
why there is something
instead of nothing at all?
nothing always noths


# haiku
1124  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 15, 2022, 02:21:17 AM
I am typically more optimistic when the majority are pessimistic and pessimistic during the rah-rah stages.
It usually served me well, but it cannot predict the absolute top and bottom, though.
The trends could also take longer to play in time, not only levels, which typically kills long options trades (even if you guess right on direction).
1125  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 14, 2022, 08:51:01 PM
OT

English Premier Ligue...wtf is going on in there?
https://youtu.be/0RiGydlyTcM?t=509
and then, the same two "characters":
https://youtu.be/0RiGydlyTcM?t=869

bizarro...did we all got infected with an "angry" virus?
I see it every day on H-town highways.
1126  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 14, 2022, 07:51:39 PM
This is very interesting comparison of bitcoin price verses addresses holding more then 10k$ worth of bitcoin.
You can see when price of bitcoin touched 69k$ on 11 Nov 2021, the addresses have gone done. That means Whales were in selling mood at that time. Now as price has gone down, whales are once again accumulating bitcoins.
Key Takeaway: whales are called whales because of this reason.

My few satoshis that I extracted from this graph.



Image source

You and the twitter guy both seem to misinterpret the graph.
It is not the graph of people with more than $10K in a wallet, it is a graph of wallets with more than 10K bitcoin.
Naturally, as the total number of bitcoin got mined from 0% to 90%, the number of such wallets should rise in the graph just like that.
Additionally, one can conclude that large whales were selling/distributing bitcoin since 2016.
Their slice of the pie is melting, which is a natural progression as well, correlating with an exponential increase in wallets containing 0.1-1 btc (shown in prior discussions and here: https://coingape.com/retail-bitcoin-holders-with-balance-0-01-0-1-btc-reaches-new-high/).
some additional stats are here (check the references as well):
https://bitcoinist.com/how-many-people-actually-have-at-least-1-bitcoin/
1127  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 14, 2022, 07:21:53 PM
here's another picture sighting the bullrun on the 5th times about bitcoin price, but i think we are getting closer than expected.

Every time I expect a bull run after seeing those graphs. The market denies it.

We are up 39% from the low...how is that "denies it"?
Twitter and pundits 'hate' this bull run, that's true.
A gazillion of 'a new leg down to $13-14K" opinions.
Maybe you mistake their voice for the 'market opinion'?
$200K price is as good as any. Imho, it will be $110K-240K based on multiple scenarios and calculations (shown elsewhere).
Personally, I am probably selling at least 20% in 2025, no matter what the price is (hopefully, would catch the peak within 20-30%).
1128  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 13, 2022, 10:57:47 PM


hmmm...where are the 'funnies' here?  Grin
1129  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 13, 2022, 03:35:15 AM
You guys ready for the big race of bitcoin ownership?

...The smartest ones have realized they cant make paper out of it.  That is deadly.  The game has changed.

The dumb ones will still try ... and go broke to the smart ones.

Are you ready?

I don't think so.   Me either really...

In bold: that is, indeed, a salient point.
However, most of US citizens are used to banks (and brokerages) having their cash. Technically, once they have it, it' s their liability (at least in case of cash).
Assuming that banks (or similar org) would have to be involved (for now, i don't believe that there would be billions of accounts directly on ledger/trezor), then HOW we can both have a "your coin" situation, but yet have some economic activity directly sponsored by your btc (otherwise it's just a store of value like gold and pretty much nothing else)?

Perhaps, it will be all phone wallet based with borrowing that includes direct collateral. Like: "you want to borrow $1 mil of my bitcoin, then give me $1 mil of stable collateral plus 5% yearly divvy". For once, i think that fractional reserve practice would seize to exist at some point, driven in part by the desire of SLOWER (more sustainable) economic growth.

TL;DR Celcius and Voyager taught us NOT to release our keys to a third party, but how to organize lending WITHOUT giving your key to a third party is a challenge.
1130  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 11, 2022, 11:08:58 PM
OT, but i am curious to what the value of POW fork of VB coin would be.
People estimate 3-10% (IOU is currently about 4%).
I vaguely remember that bitcoin fork was initially about $440 when btc was $2756 (16%) and about 20% at max in December 2017 (3900 vs 19200).

I am deeply suspicious of all non-POW coins, but it would be an interesting test, albeit Defi and USDC/tether might lean against the POW for cough-eth-cough.
Ready to observe the happenings with much interest.
Why interest: 'cause i am sick and tired listening to verbiage against bitcoin as a "user" of energy.
BTW, anything worth doing uses energy, but don't tell this to the ESG crowd.

This could be tradable, yo.
1131  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2022, 01:58:40 AM
bud interrupt
1132  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 07, 2022, 10:22:24 PM
A simple thesis:

A 'premature' top (at 69K) suggests less downside (aka 17.6K at minus 74-75%) as the bottom.

I am not sure whether this 'mild' cycle suggests that the next one would be even milder or more ferocious (on both upside and downside).
I am 55/45 on this, but if milder still next time, then next top would be somewhere at 84K and next bottom at $29.6K.
Seems a bit lower from what I expected, so maybe cycle being even milder would not be in the cards.
If the same params as the last one, then 240K top and 60K-96.8K bottom (this seems a bit optimistic from here and now).
Honestly, i think that the price of btc at the halving should be a signal to where the top might be.
many people predict 40K at the halving and if so, $240K seems doable.
1133  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 06, 2022, 01:46:06 AM
All those "last selfies" are ABSOLUTE crap, imho.
A bit tired of all that f-en blood and gore.
I would rather see a universe a la Star trek then something out of Dante's circles.
Sorry, but not sorry for some optimism.

That..and the "Terminal list" is questionable too.
Spoiler alert:
The dude kills at least a dozen of security contractors to get to his "justified target" and it was apparently cool by the writers of the 'flick".
Are they simply NPCs? Did not matter because they were paid for the job?
What kind of perversion is that?
Shows something dark in the american psyche, imho.

It's no "Three days of the Condor", which was a very good movie made in mid seventies and has some similarities, but by no means parallel.

1134  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 05, 2022, 01:33:21 AM
Talking about idleness...it has it's own benefits:

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2022/08/benefits-of-doing-nothing/671035/

The most surprising for me was that many people cannot be idle even for 4-15 min....
1135  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 03, 2022, 04:54:07 AM
Just IN:— US military aircraft SPAR19, carrying Nancy Pelosi, has now landed in Taipei, Taiwan.

China's Su-35 fighter jets are crossing the Taiwan Straits.


as a late night dream....I picture Bob's avatar (mohawk and all) flying through the air equipped with a high quality machete screaming something undecipherable (probably something about everybody not having done a proper ballz exercise with the titanium plates for this occasion).

relax...nobody would do anything...it's all for show.
1136  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2022, 10:55:07 PM
Returned from a week vacation in Zeeland. Hired a condo near the North Sea.

Barely used the internet during that time.

Fishing, beach walks (with dogs), boat trip, quality conversations with a glass of wine in the evening and -what i loved- jogging on the beach early in the morning.

Empathizing with nature environment cleared my mind from daily bullshit, it has positive cognitive and mental health benefits. It's actually a personal obligation for all people to do that few times a year.
------------------------------------------------

Hubble vs Webb Cartwheel Galaxy.



At this scale and resolution, the images are both the same, just that the reddish pic at the end of the morph shows more h-alpha content (distant nebulas and galaxies) in foreground and background. Or was it some kind of joke i didn't get?

no, bluish is Hubble, reddish is Webb, imho. one image "transforms" into another.
basically, interstellar dust absorbs UV and visible light, but does not absorb infrared, hence Webb's ability to "see through" better than Hubble in red/infrared.
I wonder if Webb could look at the Milky Way "arch". It should look quite different from what we used to, imho.
Not sure if it could take such panoramic view, though.
1137  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2022, 07:28:10 PM
In my honest opinion, Bitcoin Bottom is already in. And if it's not yet, then there will be so much blood bath.
$30-$31k is a very critical spot to look at.




That is the most depressing thing I have seen all week.

Nope, it's just an abritrary wriggly line indicating someone's opinion (which are dime and dozen on trading view).
can it happen? sure.
What is the chance? If everything is approximately how it is now, then 1% or less.
If macro goes to s-t, then it is possible, but then EVERYTHING is possible.

What I see, I post. I saw Bitcoin going from $48k to $22k, I posted.
Now I am saying Bitcoin Bottom is in according to me, and If Bitcoin gets rejected from $30k, this shit can happen too.
Who knows? Time will tell. Smiley

the wriggly lines are just wriggly lines without a context.
taken by itself the 2K number does not sound credible IF you don't delineate conditions of WHY or when it would happen.
IF bitcoin goes below 17.6K (without apocalyptic macro), then there are plenty of other supports before 2K, which is a COMPLETELY arbitrary number.
But, go ahead, post more wriggly lines (one of them just might be right).
1138  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2022, 06:27:07 PM
In my honest opinion, Bitcoin Bottom is already in. And if it's not yet, then there will be so much blood bath.
$30-$31k is a very critical spot to look at.




That is the most depressing thing I have seen all week.

Nope, it's just an abritrary wriggly line indicating someone's opinion (which are dime and dozen on trading view).
can it happen? sure.
What is the chance? If everything is approximately how it is now, then 1% or less.
If macro goes to s-t, then it is possible, but then EVERYTHING is possible.
1139  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2022, 09:24:55 PM
Re whether April 2021 or Nov 2021 was the 'real' top, opinions differ.
In price, it is Nov, of course. In everything else: momentum, various on-chain metrics, etc, April looks like a better fit.
As bears in bitcoin usually last at least 12-14 mo, therefore, IF June's ~$17.6K would be an ultimate bottom, then, indeed, it would help to think about bear market lasting since last April.
On the other hand, if the bottom (lower than $17.6K) would occur between now and next January-February, then it would seem that Nov 2021 was the "true" top.
I know that it sounds wishy-washy, but in fact, it is more like a truly undetermined state....our future measurement (of the bottom) would determine the "true top" call.
1140  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 31, 2022, 07:20:10 PM
watched Ep 1 of the "T. List"...much confused, hopefully it clears up in the following.
Basically, if someone shows person's hallicinations as being "real", then I am prone to question whatever else the character "sees", hence the plot becomes blurred as to what is real and what is imaginary.
Remember "Jacob's ladder", the movie?
It's a tough one...but feels somehow connected, maybe.

an oppressive heat
mostly indoors for a week
no end to it, bleh!


#haiku
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