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1161  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 14, 2022, 01:43:28 AM
Re Celsius...The only remaining question is whether it is an "honest" bankruptcy or not.
I hope for the former, but we would out that they hypotheticated the same bitcoin to multiple parties, then it would be something more serious.
For now, I would just assume that all of their equity, but not all deposits got wiped out by losses of 3AC, etc.
They 'supposed" to have 12 bil in deposits. the hope would be that some recovery would be possible, but it is a major bad event, no doubt about it.
For once, I am glad that now everyone would be simply hodling and/or trading and not trying to "generate yield". The side effect would be that exchange liquidity would probably drop quite a bit.
1162  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 13, 2022, 09:27:09 PM
<snip>@chowcollection
They don’t want you to stay humble and stack sats. They want you to diversify into crypto, they want you to trade with 5x leverage, they want you to lend your #Bitcoin  for 6% yield. You tell them, Fuck off! This is *my* claim to the 21M supply! I’m HODLing it forever, you fucks!
https://twitter.com/chowcollection/status/1547253769066450945?s=21





I wouldn't mind that all loan-liquidated bitcoins would be proportionally distributed between hodlers, but, apart from that, bitcoin is already great.
Another proposal (also probably a bit wild): allow lending via smart contracts ONLY...no situation where you effectively give up control of your keys.
Not sure how to do this one though, as some people want to rent out their last shirt, it seems.
1163  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 12, 2022, 09:24:08 PM
today's outrage...
...what the F is that 'heated seat subscription" from BMW?
pinching pennies on a supposedly premium car?

Bitcoin variant: you would have deposited bitcoin in a bank, but need a "subscription" to "unlock" it.
jeez...some companies just run out of ideas and are peddling this gimmick.
I will NOT purchase any hardware with "subscription"...in principle.
1164  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 12, 2022, 07:02:34 PM




Make Your Comment on it

Miners providing liquidity to exchanges?
Whales manipulation, trying to start panic?


it's like 1/150 (or less) of today's volume.
Not nothing, of course, but also not something big.
1165  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 12, 2022, 03:04:42 AM
In a couple of years of JWST observation..."You get a galaxy and you get a galaxy and you..." (Oprah style).

There are only about 8 bil of us, but at least 200 bil galaxies.
1166  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 11, 2022, 03:31:37 AM
Tuur Demeester says what?

https://twitter.com/TuurDemeester/status/1545571826838867969/photo/1

Pretty nice...is this guy something? I wonder if he invested accordingly.

EDIT: having said that he is into flippening (or not, lol)...oh, well, people can be right on something and completely wrong on something else.
EDIT2: or, maybe, he was joking...whatever. Some people make it too cute.
1167  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 11, 2022, 02:29:14 AM

The decline percentage we had was (ballpark figures):

Bitstamp 69000 -> 17592   74.5% decline

Coinmarketcap 69044 -> 17760.   74.3% decline

NOT 69.34%


re your point...some people tend to ignore intraday's highs/lows and go with an official "close" (whatever this means for bitcoin).
The highest close afaik was $67566 or thereabout. If we calculate based on this, then the decline was 73.96%.
I agree that it was not below 70%, that's for sure.
1168  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 10, 2022, 09:08:57 PM
Sri Lanka shows that fiat money is not working, but, surprisingly, the push for bitcoin is still relatively weak.
What they are planning to do over there? Adopt dollars?
1169  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 08, 2022, 04:46:46 PM
Price speculation is great, few points, however:

1. Every new cycle is different.
2. We are due for a large bounce, perhaps, but it could be a long "flat" instead (maybe at a small upward angle to stay close to 200WMA).
3. BIS says to banks that 1% in bitcoin (and other stuff) is OK. I believe that they have up to 5% for gold. Gold is at 10-12 tril. 1/5 of gold is 2-2.4 tril or 100-120K for btc (or 50-60K if bitcoin is 50% of the complex). Novogratz also mentioned something along the lines that current bitcoin and etc infrastructure can support 2tril valuation.
4. It is likely that we would have a front-running situation, like in 2019, but maybe even more amplified.
5. Some hodlers might take money off the table at 50-60K just because by then they would be exhausted and fear yet another top at those prices.

Conclusion: there are no most likely paths, but $100K-180K top appears most likely with a distinct possibility of something worse (like 60K).
however, the latter would probably mean much milder bottoming process.
1170  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 08, 2022, 03:26:28 AM
The classic Dyson sphere with 100% efficiency would only be detectable by observing objects orbiting the star. Basically like a black hole. Inefficient sphere would radiate heat (infrared) and be detectable by JWST.

My thoughts too. Though there would surely be diminishing returns and you'd have some emissions at a very low frequency.

But a Dyson sphere can also be built as a ring or rings around a star. Let's say a strip with solar panels going around the star. This could be detectable because the ring could cause fluctuations in the light emitted by the star.

No one mentioning Larry Niven's Ringworld?


Only those with 100% efficiency would be undetectable in infrared, but 95% efficient would still be visible, apparently.
Dyson himself thought that it would radiate, but there is a lot of discussion back and forth.
See discussion of params here:
https://canmom.art/physics/dyson-spheres
and/or
https://www.tillett.info/2016/08/03/carnot-efficient-dyson-spheres-are-undetectable-by-infrared-surveys/
and
https://www.quora.com/If-a-star-were-fully-enclosed-in-a-Dyson-sphere-would-the-ambient-temperature-inside-increase-significantly-over-time
https://www.quora.com/Why-wouldnt-a-Dyson-sphere-eventually-just-melt-from-the-trapped-heat-of-the-star

Re ringworld-awesome sci-fi, not sure it could be detected with JWST, though...if it exists.
Generally, no systems are 100% efficient and heat radiation occurs.
1171  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 07, 2022, 10:29:45 PM
With Celsius having paid off their debt and FTX saying they have billions of dollars to backstop the crypto industry, you might say this liquidity crunch is on the way to being behind us.  The market is celebrating this news.  Another development in the market is that mtgox sent out another update about funds being distributed to owners.  While no date has been set, it is clear progress is being made towards distribution.  ETH2 also completed another merge test yesterday, signaling those locked funds may be released by the end of the year.  You can see the stage is set for the next major rally.  We just have to wait for the pieces to fall into place.  I'd urge caution until mtgox and eth2 are in the rearview, but then I'd say you'll want to be one of the first through the door (if you're a market timer, always buy if you're a sat stacker).  

I won't be too optimistic if i was in your case, I mean july 28th is right around the corner when the bureau of economic analysis  will release their "Advance Estimate"  of the 2nd quarter of 2022 and it will most likely show that we are oficially in a recession, Which is... you know not good especially for BTC

So i would probably want to hold off and wait for this storm to pass before dumping my life savings on bitcoin.

markets were already declining before there was a whiff of a recession.
similarly, market starts to rise at least 6mo before the end of each recession.
look at the Nasdaq...risk stonks are rising the fastest rn.
1172  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 07, 2022, 10:25:29 PM
With Celsius having paid off their debt and FTX saying they have billions of dollars to backstop the crypto industry, you might say this liquidity crunch is on the way to being behind us.    

"If people will keep their money in the banks, everything will be all right"
-JP Morgan

But will they...

sure, a $1 mil question.
People would keep in "regular" banks (unless we would be in worse than 2008 situation), but not in "crypto" banks, imho.
That ship has sailed for many years, unless they get bank charter with FDIC insurance, but even then, it would be difficult to retain depositors.
Minus 5%-8% due to 'no interest' surely beats minus 100%.
1173  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 07, 2022, 07:36:23 PM
One thought about why we suddenly swing up: because the very idea of lending and borrowing cannot be expunged (put in any doubt) from the wall street perspective.
No, no  Roll Eyes.
Otherwise, much more than small bitcoin and "crypto" markets would be affected.
1174  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 07, 2022, 05:48:24 PM
What are the chances that JWST would detect at least high oxygen at any of it's planetary targets or even evidence of Dyson spheres, perhaps (much less likely)?
If nothing indicating life's presence would be detected, the chances would grow even stronger that there are no tech civilizations in the vicinity (at least).
IMHO, JWST would compensate for the paucity of discoveries (after Higgs) on LHC and give us something really interesting.
It should be fun to follow.

I still think that bitcoin is about to bounce hard, but not going to risk buying options, just hodling.

I'm not convinced Dyson spheres are really possible, but if one existed, wouldn't it be impossible to see it from a distance ?

Yes, I am also not sure, but if Dyson's spheres exist, then they should glow in infrared and infrared is JWST "specialty".

Nice btc bounce...just starting.
1175  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 07, 2022, 02:36:34 AM
What are the chances that JWST would detect at least high oxygen at any of it's planetary targets or even evidence of Dyson spheres, perhaps (much less likely)?
If nothing indicating life's presence would be detected, the chances would grow even stronger that there are no tech civilizations in the vicinity (at least).
IMHO, JWST would compensate for the paucity of discoveries (after Higgs) on LHC and give us something really interesting.
It should be fun to follow.

I still think that bitcoin is about to bounce hard, but not going to risk buying options, just hodling.
1176  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 07, 2022, 02:27:15 AM
Now how is a rag-tag band of survivors supposed to know what to do after a global apocalyptic event?

 (Georgia guide stones)

 

weird stuff, man....it's been been there since 1980.
Some of those ideas are goofy, but certainly not threatening by themselves.
why now?
1177  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2022, 05:58:06 PM
Question for everybody in the WO.

If today, you get 1Million$ fresh fiat, available to invest in totally in this market.


What would be your strategy ? Short-long term.. Level/target.. Pourcentage.. Diversification (i mean not only "all in" on btc)..


20% in btc immediately aka over 2-4wk (or even at once)
50% buy a decent house or apartment/condo for cash or w/minimal mortgage.
30% short term treasury fund (would earn 3% by the EOY)

OR
20% btc,
80% short term treasury, then move this money to tech stocks (and maybe more btc) once FED pivots to easing.

I am 65% in cash/treasuries in my non-btc (with some other alts) funds. 35% in stocks, mostly tech.
My timing in stocks is usually bad, though, so I almost always have to wait months to years for the breakeven in some individual stocks, but overall the portfolio is growing.
I don't buy indices.

However, lately, I start thinking that ALL this asset accumulation is meaningless (above and beyond comfortable living).
Just look at the world around us. Maybe the right idea is to decumulate and enjoy life while it is still mostly decent.

EDIT btw, some leading edge biotechs started a bull run from the bottom formed about 3-4 wk ago. Some are already 50% up. Biotechs usually lead the market as they started declining in July-September of 2021, few months before big techs. Take this with a grain of salt, but it could be a market "tell".
1178  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2022, 04:01:36 PM
Cleared my order book below $17,500 and reset with new targets @ $19,250 laddering down.



aka Bob's buying in one of his "shrimp" accounts?
1179  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2022, 03:55:40 PM


Think Positive.
That will be Progressive
Be Smart

Haha that's me in 2018.  Grin

That's me in 2013, 2017 and 2021.

I had a goal set, sell at 100k. That worked out well, not.

'cause you have to go with the flow, not preset numbers, but picking up the top is fools errand anyway.
Next time VAST numbers would sell at 60-69K, so breaking these numbers would be very difficult, but not impossible, imho. Most likely it would take a few tries.
1180  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 04, 2022, 11:31:50 PM
An 'alternative' bullish view that suggests that 69 was a "3", not a "5".
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/YborCh2M-Is-Bitcoin-about-to-rally-to-110-120k/

I give this scenario a low chance (make it 20-30%), but it ALSO suggests a 47-48K point in a few mo, then 110-120K thereafter (this is a part of lengthening cycle model that suggest that the current bear is intermittent, like in the summer of 2013)
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