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November 16, 2013, 05:30:14 PM
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So I guess the VRMs are going to be switched to higher rated versions to handle more amps?

You know someone is going to want to mod their Oct PCBs with the new parts Smiley   mineaswell list the changes

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November 16, 2013, 05:30:54 PM
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umm yes there is a delay, you said they would ship this week, then changed that to monday.... thats a delay.
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November 16, 2013, 05:31:43 PM
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@KNC or @Bitcoinorama: Does this delay also apply to the upgrade modules? Will the shipping of the upgrade modules begin with, before or after shipping of regular november orders?

Guy's I'll be honest and say. If you have a November batch and want to take full advantage, I'd be sourcing 1200w PSUs.

I'd still avoid the Cosair HX Series. You'd prob be fine with a solid 1000w+.

We've been testing on the V850s still, but as I alluded to before they've been pushing these around and over 1000w and the PSUs are solid and have been taking the abuse, but if I were you with future firmware revisions and from what I've seen: 1200w Gold rated PSUs for November batch orders FTW please! Wink

Hey, could you please elaborate on your reasoning, and also evaluate this power supply? Is your recommendation based on cost savings? Or is it necessary due to technical limitations?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003J89V0A/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I originally planned on using this, because I have it around. However, after reading some comments here, I'm thinking of purchasing a new kill-a-watt (old one broke) and a gold rated power supply per recommendations.

Firstly to finish addressing the original post. There is no delay on the upgrades they are shipping Monday. Everybody at the same time. That's been deemed the fairest option for all, except Marcus who had suddenly discovered the oversell and freaked out as he had to ensure enough components were available.

The PSU is due to the fact the November batch will be somewhat more hungry. We've improved the PCB layout, and changed a few components, and are pushing the chip harder.

October shipment was always about speed to market. As the units were finalised the day after delivery and the fact KnC had to play devils advocate and assume someone else, may have a greater effect on the hashrate sooner as other products were apparently planned for delivery, it was deemed more crucial that the first shipment was in the hands of customers sooner, rather than later.

That said certain team members have been allocated to improving the design based upon issues that arose and feedback received, also some of the margins could be removed as confidence with the chip has increased.

These machines also run a little hotter, so bare that in mind. Nothing for you to worry about w.r.t. to product cooling, those heatsinks are finally being warmed up a little, and if you live in a cooler climate this winter, say in Scandinavia Wink, i'm sure you'll be grateful, but it's something to consider, these chips are being pushed, so expect heat as a by product and perhaps a little more noise as auxiliary components have to work a little more.

That said we are still using Coolermaster V850s and none have yet died, and they have been pushed past 1000w, they do tend to wake up and provide a more vocal ambient fan noise, but I wouldn't bet on them being a long term solution, so something beefier would be advise. Stick to 80+ Gold. Can't say 1000w is sufficient as i've seen machines goto 1050w, and i cannot predict what else the software engineers have in mind for the hardware. As such I cannot officially say anything other than you need a PSU greater than 1000W, which takes you into 1200W territory. Go for what you know, but again cannot recommend the Corsair HX series, and unfortunately there is no time to check every PSU on the market, unless you don't mind waiting a few more months, which I doubt, as minutes appears to be beyond the realms of reasonable delay here...

I'd be inclined to go with;

http://www.coolermaster.com/product/Detail/powersupply/silent-pro-gold/silent-pro-gold-1200w.html

KnC I believe will be using 2 x v850s for the hosting guys, for sure because the boards are modular you have that option of powering the machine with 2 PSUs.

Hope that helps.
A good solution for the PSU should be the EVGA G2 1300w, I think it still on sale on newegg for sub 200, and is 1300w gold rated PSU.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1300w-evga-supernova-g2-80plus-gold-90plus-eff-full-modular-power-supply

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November 16, 2013, 05:35:17 PM
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Just seen this group pop up on BTCGuild..  I guess it is Coinlab's miners

Alydian 64,892.26 GH/s
 Alydian 15,685,604,620 shares

Have they been around a while and just now jump on BTCGuild?  


edit- more digging turns this up
http://alydian.co/news/CoinLab-Announces-First-Incubator-Company

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November 16, 2013, 05:42:08 PM
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I guess you missed this one:  http://www.coindesk.com/coinlabs-alydian-bankruptcy-debt-3-6m/

So what you are seeing on BTCGuild is anyone's guess.

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November 16, 2013, 06:09:52 PM
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Just seen this group pop up on BTCGuild..  I guess it is Coinlab's miners

Alydian 64,892.26 GH/s
 Alydian 15,685,604,620 shares

Have they been around a while and just now jump on BTCGuild?  


edit- more digging turns this up
http://alydian.co/news/CoinLab-Announces-First-Incubator-Company


Didn't they just declare Bankruptcy?!

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November 16, 2013, 06:26:17 PM
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Just seen this group pop up on BTCGuild..  I guess it is Coinlab's miners

Alydian 64,892.26 GH/s
 Alydian 15,685,604,620 shares

Have they been around a while and just now jump on BTCGuild?  


edit- more digging turns this up
http://alydian.co/news/CoinLab-Announces-First-Incubator-Company


Kind of sucks that eventually it will all be big commercial companies and we will all be gone. They'll eventually throw enough money into the hashing power to just kick us out...hell, it's going to turn into a regular bank soon. I thought the bitcoin industry had ways to stop this from happening.


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November 16, 2013, 06:28:47 PM
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umm yes there is a delay, you said they would ship this week, then changed that to monday.... thats a delay.

Sam specifically said this week, " The Boards will ship out this week directly from our offices in Stockholm". Come on KNC, you are getting shabbier and shabbier looking like a place run by a bunch of kids.


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November 16, 2013, 06:32:49 PM
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umm yes there is a delay, you said they would ship this week, then changed that to monday.... thats a delay.

Sam specifically said this week, " The Boards will ship out this week directly from our offices in Stockholm". Come on KNC, you are getting shabbier and shabbier looking like a place run by a bunch of kids.


***This is getting really, really old...
Jumping on every little detail O'rama says...
It really makes you look like a Crested Macaque.
He friggin' works there, and just updated the info to you...
I guess you will find out which is right, won't you?
Doggonit.


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November 16, 2013, 06:39:56 PM
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umm yes there is a delay, you said they would ship this week, then changed that to monday.... thats a delay.

Sam specifically said this week, " The Boards will ship out this week directly from our offices in Stockholm". Come on KNC, you are getting shabbier and shabbier looking like a place run by a bunch of kids.


*This is getting really, really old... Jumping on every detail O'rama says.
It really makes you look like a Crested Macaque
He friggin' works there, and just updated the info to you...
I guess you will find out which is right, won't you?
Doggonit.


im just going by what sam posted on the site as well....
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November 16, 2013, 06:40:41 PM
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umm yes there is a delay, you said they would ship this week, then changed that to monday.... thats a delay.

Sam specifically said this week, " The Boards will ship out this week directly from our offices in Stockholm". Come on KNC, you are getting shabbier and shabbier looking like a place run by a bunch of kids.


*This is getting really, really old... Jumping on every detail O'rama says.
It really makes you look like a Crested Macaque
He friggin' works there, and just updated the info to you...
I guess you will find out which is right, won't you?
Doggonit.


The KNC giving misleading information is indeed getting old. You would think that they would have taken their "15th October Dealine" promise as a lesson and learn not to give us specific dates if they can't stick to them. I mean why would you state something if you are not sure you can make it?

Btw I am only commenting on the "misleading information?" issue here.
I am quite happy that I will be able to pick it up Monday.

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November 16, 2013, 06:42:39 PM
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umm yes there is a delay, you said they would ship this week, then changed that to monday.... thats a delay.

Sam specifically said this week, " The Boards will ship out this week directly from our offices in Stockholm". Come on KNC, you are getting shabbier and shabbier looking like a place run by a bunch of kids.


*This is getting really, really old... Jumping on every detail O'rama says.
It really makes you look like a Crested Macaque
He friggin' works there, and just updated the info to you...
I guess you will find out which is right, won't you?
Doggonit.


The KNC giving misleading information is indeed getting old. You would think that they would have taken their "15th October Dealine" promise as a lesson and learn not to give us specific dates if they can't stick to them. I mean why would you state something if you are not sure you can make it?

also, its ok for a first come first serve method when buying the module, but shipping them...they all get sent at once....double standards. making a big deal of who paid first, they should ship those people who paid first too.... selective business practices. lol
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November 16, 2013, 06:43:14 PM
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umm yes there is a delay, you said they would ship this week, then changed that to monday.... thats a delay.

Sam specifically said this week, " The Boards will ship out this week directly from our offices in Stockholm". Come on KNC, you are getting shabbier and shabbier looking like a place run by a bunch of kids.


*This is getting really, really old... Jumping on every detail O'rama says.
It really makes you look like a Crested Macaque
He friggin' works there, and just updated the info to you...
I guess you will find out which is right, won't you?
Doggonit.


im just going by what sam posted on the site as well....
umm yes there is a delay, you said they would ship this week, then changed that to monday.... thats a delay.

Sam specifically said this week, " The Boards will ship out this week directly from our offices in Stockholm". Come on KNC, you are getting shabbier and shabbier looking like a place run by a bunch of kids.


*This is getting really, really old... Jumping on every detail O'rama says.
It really makes you look like a Crested Macaque
He friggin' works there, and just updated the info to you...
I guess you will find out which is right, won't you?
Doggonit.


The KNC giving misleading information is indeed getting old. You would think that they would have taken their "15th October Dealine" promise as a lesson and learn not to give us specific dates if they can't stick to them. I mean why would you state something if you are not sure you can make it?
Situations change = plans change = you were notified.
Not misinformation, this is called "Keeping you updated"


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November 16, 2013, 06:44:54 PM
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keeping you updated = we change whatever the hell we want. lol

only in the bitcoin community with such a lack of competition can they get away with whatever they want. sigh.

ps. since i bought a knc product, i think its fine for me to complain and vent here.
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November 16, 2013, 06:46:58 PM
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umm yes there is a delay, you said they would ship this week, then changed that to monday.... thats a delay.

Sam specifically said this week, " The Boards will ship out this week directly from our offices in Stockholm". Come on KNC, you are getting shabbier and shabbier looking like a place run by a bunch of kids.


*This is getting really, really old... Jumping on every detail O'rama says.
It really makes you look like a Crested Macaque
He friggin' works there, and just updated the info to you...
I guess you will find out which is right, won't you?
Doggonit.


im just going by what sam posted on the site as well....
umm yes there is a delay, you said they would ship this week, then changed that to monday.... thats a delay.

Sam specifically said this week, " The Boards will ship out this week directly from our offices in Stockholm". Come on KNC, you are getting shabbier and shabbier looking like a place run by a bunch of kids.


*This is getting really, really old... Jumping on every detail O'rama says.
It really makes you look like a Crested Macaque
He friggin' works there, and just updated the info to you...
I guess you will find out which is right, won't you?
Doggonit.


The KNC giving misleading information is indeed getting old. You would think that they would have taken their "15th October Dealine" promise as a lesson and learn not to give us specific dates if they can't stick to them. I mean why would you state something if you are not sure you can make it?
Situations change = plans change = you were notified.
Not misinformation, this is called "Keeping you updated"


Again, I am happy with the time it took from Sale to collection/delivery.
I'm just pointing out that if a company is not 100% sure they can keep a promise, then don't make it.

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November 16, 2013, 06:48:00 PM
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keeping you updated = we change whatever the hell we want. lol

only in the bitcoin community with such a lack of competition can they get away with whatever they want. sigh.
I realize emotions run high...   Myself included. I just think it's unfair to vent so hard on the guy that keeps us informed the most.
Don't kill the messenger!   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I didn't like the news either btw....


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November 16, 2013, 06:51:08 PM
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keeping you updated = we change whatever the hell we want. lol

only in the bitcoin community with such a lack of competition can they get away with whatever they want. sigh.
I realize emotions run high...   Myself included. I just think it's unfair to vent so hard on the guy that keeps us informed the most.
Don't kill the messenger!   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

oh no no, its nothing personal with orama. he has attempted to help me recently actually and tipped him for trying. its just now hes basically the pr side of the company and basically the only one we hear from now, so stuff usually gets directed at him.
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November 16, 2013, 06:52:16 PM
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keeping you updated = we change whatever the hell we want. lol

only in the bitcoin community with such a lack of competition can they get away with whatever they want. sigh.
I realize emotions run high...   Myself included. I just think it's unfair to vent so hard on the guy that keeps us informed the most.
Don't kill the messenger!   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I didn't like the news either btw....

im just angry i bought an "upgradable" miner, and now thats untrue. they have changed designs and im fucked.
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November 16, 2013, 06:52:24 PM
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Hey 'Orama!

Some tuning for the september-october ones? Not much, just 15%...    Grin

And a list of how to please

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  So cut, cut, cut me up and fuck, fuck, fuck me up"
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November 16, 2013, 06:56:22 PM
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umm yes there is a delay, you said they would ship this week, then changed that to monday.... thats a delay.

Sam specifically said this week, " The Boards will ship out this week directly from our offices in Stockholm". Come on KNC, you are getting shabbier and shabbier looking like a place run by a bunch of kids.


***This is getting really, really old...
Jumping on every little detail O'rama says...
It really makes you look like a Crested Macaque.
He friggin' works there, and just updated the info to you...
I guess you will find out which is right, won't you?
Doggonit.


Phoenix, some people just don't like being lied to. It is called ethics in the business world. People actually go to jail for being unethical in the business world. I'm not saying anyone from KNC should go to jail, I'm saying this is how important it is to supply the correct information. Some people can't sit online in the forums 24/7 like you can and read every update and post there is....but if there was a notice about them being shipped late I missed it. Also that notice SHOULD have went in the same spot where the modules were first announced, the KNC forums news area. That's what should of happened.

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