Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[davewr2013]

You know, if people would buy a BTC or 2 when they place these orders, by the time their orders arrive they could sell the BTC and make a profit (based on the past few months' performance). Then you've made some money back during the wait, and "all would be well".

I mean, I understand the frustration, but the mining game isn't necessarily one for folks to be in if they're going to bite their nails over a day or 2 delay. Not saying it doesn't suck.. but c'mon. This isn't BFL where you're waiting quarters and half centuries, this is a few days delay.

Ya'll should be happy, I couldn't even buy a module for my mercury.

A balanced portfolio...

What a novel idea? (Joke OK)

Good point!

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[BitcoinApprentice]

]Well, I totally understand.  I also was hoping to "snap up" a few more boards...   as were alot of folks...   but I also understand that we are now into November delivery territory, and they are needing to put October behind them...
I feel pretty lucky to have been able to get a couple Nov's squeezed in.
The demand for KNC products is VERY high now.

I agree..  you getting the new Nov design soon is nice, either way we are all winning.  

I 'needed' the extra two modules so when the next diffs hit I will still be over the 1 BTC a day club...  very psychological for me    I should be safe until mid Dec

Definitely want to stay in the 1Btc Club!

[thoughtcourier]

@KNC or @Bitcoinorama: Does this delay also apply to the upgrade modules? Will the shipping of the upgrade modules begin with, before or after shipping of regular november orders?

Guy's I'll be honest and say. If you have a November batch and want to take full advantage, I'd be sourcing 1200w PSUs.

I'd still avoid the Cosair HX Series. You'd prob be fine with a solid 1000w+.

We've been testing on the V850s still, but as I alluded to before they've been pushing these around and over 1000w and the PSUs are solid and have been taking the abuse, but if I were you with future firmware revisions and from what I've seen: 1200w Gold rated PSUs for November batch orders FTW please!

Hey, could you please elaborate on your reasoning, and also evaluate this power supply? Is your recommendation based on cost savings? Or is it necessary due to technical limitations?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003J89V0A/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I originally planned on using this, because I have it around. However, after reading some comments here, I'm thinking of purchasing a new kill-a-watt (old one broke) and a gold rated power supply per recommendations.

Firstly to finish addressing the original post. There is no delay on the upgrades they are shipping Monday. Everybody at the same time. That's been deemed the fairest option for all, except Marcus who had suddenly discovered the oversell and freaked out as he had to ensure enough components were available.

The PSU is due to the fact the November batch will be somewhat more hungry. We've improved the PCB layout, and changed a few components, and are pushing the chip harder.

October shipment was always about speed to market. As the units were finalised the day after delivery and the fact KnC had to play devils advocate and assume someone else, may have a greater effect on the hashrate sooner as other products were apparently planned for delivery, it was deemed more crucial that the first shipment was in the hands of customers sooner, rather than later.

That said certain team members have been allocated to improving the design based upon issues that arose and feedback received, also some of the margins could be removed as confidence with the chip has increased.

These machines also run a little hotter, so bare that in mind. Nothing for you to worry about w.r.t. to product cooling, those heatsinks are finally being warmed up a little, and if you live in a cooler climate this winter, say in Scandinavia , i'm sure you'll be grateful, but it's something to consider, these chips are being pushed, so expect heat as a by product and perhaps a little more noise as auxiliary components have to work a little more.

That said we are still using Coolermaster V850s and none have yet died, and they have been pushed past 1000w, they do tend to wake up and provide a more vocal ambient fan noise, but I wouldn't bet on them being a long term solution, so something beefier would be advise. Stick to 80+ Gold. Can't say 1000w is sufficient as i've seen machines goto 1050w, and i cannot predict what else the software engineers have in mind for the hardware. As such I cannot officially say anything other than you need a PSU greater than 1000W, which takes you into 1200W territory. Go for what you know, but again cannot recommend the Corsair HX series, and unfortunately there is no time to check every PSU on the market, unless you don't mind waiting a few more months, which I doubt, as minutes appears to be beyond the realms of reasonable delay here...

I'd be inclined to go with;

http://www.coolermaster.com/product/Detail/powersupply/silent-pro-gold/silent-pro-gold-1200w.html

KnC I believe will be using 2 x v850s for the hosting guys, for sure because the boards are modular you have that option of powering the machine with 2 PSUs.

Hope that helps.

Thanks. Gave me some food for thought. Looks like I will go get a new power supply. Perhaps KNC should change their PS recommendations? Also, I thought the power usage was going to be 1W per GH/s. I haven't been keeping up with the news.

[Bitcoinorama]

Thanks. Gave me some food for thought. Looks like I will go get a new power supply. Perhaps KNC should change their PS recommendations? Also, I thought the power usage was going to be 1W per GH/s. I haven't been keeping up with the news.

The current miners can hash at 1W/Gh/s, less even dependant on the firmware, but the tuning suite will allow you to decide that far more specifically.  Each die appears to have an operational sweet spot.

Physical changes in the November unit's boards make them tolerant to far more abuse and they have this turbo feature that basically eats current and shits coins. They'll also be able to hash at something more economical of you so wish, to make them more future proof.

[BitcoinApprentice]

Place your bets if KNC would agree to sell me an empty aluminium case so I can provide a good home for my Upgrade modules.
What do you think is a fair price?

Bring 50Eur cash and drop on the counter. Should get near wholesale, since it's a hassle free transfer?

Or....  ask for a scratch and dent -- for free,  or 25.

[CYPER]

Thanks. Gave me some food for thought. Looks like I will go get a new power supply. Perhaps KNC should change their PS recommendations? Also, I thought the power usage was going to be 1W per GH/s. I haven't been keeping up with the news.

The current miners can hash at 1W/Gh/s, less even dependant on the firmware, but the tuning suite will allow you to decide that far more specifically.  Each die appears to have an operational sweet spot.

I'm yet to see 1W/Gh/s at the wall, which btw is dependant on PSU used, so technically it is a wrong claim to make

Place your bets if KNC would agree to sell me an empty aluminium case so I can provide a good home for my Upgrade modules.
What do you think is a fair price?

Bring 50Eur cash and drop on the counter. Should get near wholesale, since it's a hassle free transfer?

Or....  ask for a scratch and dent -- for free,  or 25.

50 eur is too much, but 25 eur will pay

[btc_uzr]

you can do it yourself - but not for 50€ I guess
http://www.metalsdepot.com/products/alum2.phtml?page=sheet

[BitcoinApprentice]

Thanks. Gave me some food for thought. Looks like I will go get a new power supply. Perhaps KNC should change their PS recommendations? Also, I thought the power usage was going to be 1W per GH/s. I haven't been keeping up with the news.

The current miners can hash at 1W/Gh/s, less even dependant on the firmware, but the tuning suite will allow you to decide that far more specifically.  Each die appears to have an operational sweet spot.

Physical changes in the November unit's boards make them tolerant to far more abuse and they have this turbo feature that basically eats current and shits coins. They'll also be able to hash at something more economical of you so wish, to make them more future proof.

Do you know if Hosted Octobers will be getting any of this "tuning"?

[Bitcoinorama]

Thanks. Gave me some food for thought. Looks like I will go get a new power supply. Perhaps KNC should change their PS recommendations? Also, I thought the power usage was going to be 1W per GH/s. I haven't been keeping up with the news.

The current miners can hash at 1W/Gh/s, less even dependant on the firmware, but the tuning suite will allow you to decide that far more specifically.  Each die appears to have an operational sweet spot.

Physical changes in the November unit's boards make them tolerant to far more abuse and they have this turbo feature that basically eats current and shits coins. They'll also be able to hash at something more economical of you so wish, to make them more future proof.

Do you know if Hosted Octobers will be getting any of this "tuning"?

No idea. All the hosting guys should be hashing healthily currently.

[soy]

umm yes there is a delay, you said they would ship this week, then changed that to monday.... thats a delay.

Sam specifically said this week, " The Boards will ship out this week directly from our offices in Stockholm". Come on KNC, you are getting shabbier and shabbier looking like a place run by a bunch of kids.

Could misinformation trigger action by a competitor that might make their gear faulty?

[BitcoinApprentice]

Thanks. Gave me some food for thought. Looks like I will go get a new power supply. Perhaps KNC should change their PS recommendations? Also, I thought the power usage was going to be 1W per GH/s. I haven't been keeping up with the news.

The current miners can hash at 1W/Gh/s, less even dependant on the firmware, but the tuning suite will allow you to decide that far more specifically.  Each die appears to have an operational sweet spot.

Physical changes in the November unit's boards make them tolerant to far more abuse and they have this turbo feature that basically eats current and shits coins. They'll also be able to hash at something more economical of you so wish, to make them more future proof.

Do you know if Hosted Octobers will be getting any of this "tuning"?

No idea. All the hosting guys should be hashing healthily currently.

Just occasional dropouts for I presume FW, but my hosted units are smoking right along, Happy AND I can sleep at night, ....Unless I wake up to check my address.  LOL

[Bogart]

Place your bets if KNC would agree to sell me an empty aluminium case so I can provide a good home for my Upgrade modules.
What do you think is a fair price?

Bring 50Eur cash and drop on the counter. Should get near wholesale, since it's a hassle free transfer?

Or....  ask for a scratch and dent -- for free,  or 25.

I see a couple there with the front sections bent over.  Try and get one of them.

[puffer]

4 hashing boards @ 820 GH/s one jupiter (oct shipment)

http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/16918-jupiter-820-gh-s

[CYPER]

Place your bets if KNC would agree to sell me an empty aluminium case so I can provide a good home for my Upgrade modules.
What do you think is a fair price?

Bring 50Eur cash and drop on the counter. Should get near wholesale, since it's a hassle free transfer?

Or....  ask for a scratch and dent -- for free,  or 25.

I see a couple there with the front sections bent over.  Try and get one of them.

OK, I will try to sneak when they are not looking and put one in my pocket undetected  

[CYPER]

4 hashing boards @ 820 GH/s one jupiter (oct shipment)

http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/16918-jupiter-820-gh-s

Here we go again:

[KGBSlim]

What does this mean? I mean I saw this on KnC forum but cant follow...@Cyper

[Meizirkki]

It's a six module jupiter. No jupiter with only four modules can hash that much. At least not if the cards are 4 -VRM

[KGBSlim]

Thanks for clearing that up I was wondering why it said ASIC #6 but couldnt understand OP on the KnC forums.

[CYPER]

Thanks for clearing that up I was wondering why it said ASIC #6 but couldnt understand OP on the KnC forums.

It says ASIC #6 because a module is connected there. But yes, it is a Jupiter with 6 modules connected.

[idee2013]

Thanks for clearing that up I was wondering why it said ASIC #6 but couldnt understand OP on the KnC forums.

It says ASIC #6 because a module is connected there. But yes, it is a Jupiter with 6 modules connected.

is that your jupiter at eligius cyper?