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November 14, 2013, 10:16:04 PM
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Do the modules at least come with mounting screws?  I don't want to be climbing into my car and driving 23 miles to Lowes for screws when it arrives.  They look like M3x.50x6 and M3x.50x20.
Screws, bar, ribbons, cables....all included...no "running to the store" necessary....two of the small pcb board mounting screws come from the arctic freezer box to hold the board to the unit, peel the sticker off the base of the cooler, blob the thermal paste onto the center of it.... gently set heatsink on top of chip, wiggle till thermal squeezes out, while centering the heatsink onto the chip mounting surface.. then you stick one spacer over each bar mounting hole, slide the bar in, and thread in the two longer bar-mounting screws, tighten gently while double-checking alignment....  once secure...that's it. plug in  the ribbon, fan, and power cord...fire it up.

I see.  So, are you saying the cooling tower I just bought on Amazon isn't necessary or that those screws and the bar are included in the Arctic Freezer.  More clearly, is KnC shipping an Arctic Freezer tower and fan as well as the module?  And thanks.
NO, the arctic i30 you bought is necessary, and contains the two screws you need to fasten the board.. no other screws or spacers are used from the i30, the rest are supplied, as I stated.

BTW, How did you come to the conclusion that the cooling tower wasn't necessary from that post?


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November 14, 2013, 10:24:20 PM
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Do the modules at least come with mounting screws?  I don't want to be climbing into my car and driving 23 miles to Lowes for screws when it arrives.  They look like M3x.50x6 and M3x.50x20.
Screws, bar, ribbons, cables....all included...no "running to the store" necessary....two of the small pcb board mounting screws come from the arctic freezer box to hold the board to the unit, peel the sticker off the base of the cooler, blob the thermal paste onto the center of it.... gently set heatsink on top of chip, wiggle till thermal squeezes out, while centering the heatsink onto the chip mounting surface.. then you stick one spacer over each bar mounting hole, slide the bar in, and thread in the two longer bar-mounting screws, tighten gently while double-checking alignment....  once secure...that's it. plug in  the ribbon, fan, and power cord...fire it up.

I see.  So, are you saying the cooling tower I just bought on Amazon isn't necessary or that those screws and the bar are included in the Arctic Freezer.  More clearly, is KnC shipping an Arctic Freezer tower and fan as well as the module?  And thanks.
NO, the arctic i30 you bought is necessary, and contains the two screws you need to fasten the board.. no other screws or spacers are used from the i30, the rest are supplied, as I stated.

Okay, thanks again.  This:
ARCTIC Freezer i30 CO Extreme CPU Cooler - Intel, 320W Ultimate Cooling Power, for 24/7 Operation
Sold by Amazon.com LLC  $48.95 

has tracking which said Out for Delivery; checked my PO Box but not yet, tracking still says the same.  Not worried, it will be here well before the module.

The small 12v fans I have, under 2" diag., I'm thinking of putting on the module board, in front of the tower, fixed in place with RTV, one on each side facing the VRMs and cardboard inserts between the VRMs and the ASIC.



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November 14, 2013, 10:25:17 PM
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By the way, thinking today about Bitcoin getting thru the $400's.  Chinese who have been buying with gusto may have slacked off in the $400 range as the numeral 4 is bad mojo for them.  I would expect once it hits $500 it will take off at an even greater incline.

BTC in China is currently at ¥2656 Wink. They broke the 400 yuan barrier LONG ago Wink
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November 14, 2013, 10:26:15 PM
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roger that... Smiley  (Soy)


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November 14, 2013, 10:29:04 PM
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By the way, thinking today about Bitcoin getting thru the $400's.  Chinese who have been buying with gusto may have slacked off in the $400 range as the numeral 4 is bad mojo for them.  I would expect once it hits $500 it will take off at an even greater incline.

BTC in China is currently at ¥2656 Wink. They broke the 400 yuan barrier LONG ago Wink
400 yuan isnt even close to 400 USD(it's 65), and 2656 yuan is 435 USD, so they broke 400 around the same time, not looooong ago....  Just sayin'


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November 14, 2013, 10:31:54 PM
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Guys, they said this week.

Now it's thursday. You don't have a friday in your calendar?

 Wink

(I'm an optmisit....)

Edit: 3 days 'til the next diff. Maybe they doesn't want us to get this stuff until then.... It's good for how couldn't ordered. Not too much, but better than nothing.

I have always suspected some manipulation of the difficulty rise by the chip manuf/distr. such as Asicminer and others.....think back of a pic. w/ sam, yifu and others.....with "GOOD" intentions. Seems as though just before difficutly change, the hashing rise goes flat then as soon as change takes place bam hashing rate goes through the roof....I don't know diddly (excpet for bo)....so I could be just plain nuts in my obsv.
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I purchased 4 Jupiters during the preorder phase when they were not accepting  payment yet. When they did open the 7 day payment window I paid for each jupiter as individual orders as Pay PAL would only allow it to be done that way do to the size of the order. So I ended up with 4 orders 304, 1704,1705, and 1706. Right away the distance in order numbers had me nervous so I sent an email to Sam Cole making sure all 4 orders would be grouped together and shipped out on day 1 under order 304. I was told yes and that he would fix the orders so that this happened. Fast forward to the shipping and i get order 304 on day 1 and the other 3 show up 2 weeks later.During the 2 weeks and when the first order was in transit, i was constantly getting the run around from KNC customer service told that orders are shipped based on when they were paid which for anyone that made an early pre oder knows this was not the case for us as we were given 7 days to pay to secure our spot in line.Finally after 10 days they admit that they messed up and moved my order up( they moved it up like 1 day as all other 17xx order were being shipped out at that time). Then I find out through the forums that others have received compensation for this kind of mix up. When I asked what was going to be done about the 17 BTC per unit that I lost out on, I was told nothing would be done. This does not seem right to me and I wanted to ask the community and KNC'S spokesman bitcoinorama if i'm justified in complaining about this service and treatment. KNC has made millions on our pre orders and yet cant correct mistake that cost a customer over 51 BTC

Are you serious? This thread is full of a bunch of whiney bitches. Instead of focusing on what you don't have and how Knc screwed you over, why don't you focus on that fact that KNC managed to ship you over 2 TH of mining power in October and BTC is now worth over $400 per coin!

Almost all BFL, Avalon, Terrahash, AsicMiner, Cointerra, and Hashfast customers would be ecstatic with that outcome!

Are you kidding me?? really I should just take it up the *** that they built the company off our pre orders and when they admit to messing up do nothing about it??  you should never get into business or even better i have a nice piece of land i want to sell you

For arguments sake let's say that's fine with a lot of us because we had similar problems but decided there were more important things to think about and talk about.

OK?

Now can you tone down the language please?

It's getting easier to ignore over the top hysterical comments.

If you want help -- keep it polite.

If you want to spew -- many of us are discovering the little Ignore tag on the left...


I have been on here for sometime but chose never to comment as somehow i would be considered a troll or bad mouthing a company. The first real post I put on here and i get deemed as whining. I'm sorry but i have been dealing with this for almost 2 months now with no help and you ask any real person and a loss of 51 BTC is not minor. Every other company have offered some sort of compensation except KNC.
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November 14, 2013, 10:36:11 PM
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By the way, thinking today about Bitcoin getting thru the $400's.  Chinese who have been buying with gusto may have slacked off in the $400 range as the numeral 4 is bad mojo for them.  I would expect once it hits $500 it will take off at an even greater incline.

BTC in China is currently at ¥2656 Wink. They broke the 400 yuan barrier LONG ago Wink
400 yuan isnt even close to 400 USD, and 2656 yuan is 435 USD, so they broke 400 around the same time, not looooong ago....  Just sayin'

I said 400 yuan barrier, not 400 USD barrier Tongue. Pretty sure they don't use USD in the Chinese exchanges...
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Do the modules at least come with mounting screws?  I don't want to be climbing into my car and driving 23 miles to Lowes for screws when it arrives.  They look like M3x.50x6 and M3x.50x20.
Screws, bar, ribbons, cables....all included...no "running to the store" necessary....two of the small pcb board mounting screws come from the arctic freezer box to hold the board to the unit, peel the sticker off the base of the cooler, blob the thermal paste onto the center of it.... gently set heatsink on top of chip, wiggle till thermal squeezes out, while centering the heatsink onto the chip mounting surface.. then you stick one spacer over each bar mounting hole, slide the bar in, and thread in the two longer bar-mounting screws, tighten gently while double-checking alignment....  once secure...that's it. plug in  the ribbon, fan, and power cord...fire it up.
An instructional video would be nice......(hint hint anyone)
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November 14, 2013, 10:38:18 PM
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By the way, thinking today about Bitcoin getting thru the $400's.  Chinese who have been buying with gusto may have slacked off in the $400 range as the numeral 4 is bad mojo for them.  I would expect once it hits $500 it will take off at an even greater incline.

BTC in China is currently at ¥2656 Wink. They broke the 400 yuan barrier LONG ago Wink
400 yuan isnt even close to 400 USD, and 2656 yuan is 435 USD, so they broke 400 around the same time, not looooong ago....  Just sayin'

I said 400 yuan barrier, not 400 USD barrier Tongue. Pretty sure they don't use USD in the Chinese exchanges...

typical american thinking....lol
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November 14, 2013, 10:39:41 PM
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By the way, thinking today about Bitcoin getting thru the $400's.  Chinese who have been buying with gusto may have slacked off in the $400 range as the numeral 4 is bad mojo for them.  I would expect once it hits $500 it will take off at an even greater incline.

BTC in China is currently at ¥2656 Wink. They broke the 400 yuan barrier LONG ago Wink
400 yuan isnt even close to 400 USD(it's 65), and 2656 yuan is 435 USD, so they broke 400 around the same time, not looooong ago....  Just sayin'

Why would the Chinese be superstitious about the price of Bitcoins in Dollars or Euros or Rubbles?
The relevant price is ~2600 Yuan which has nothing to do with "4".
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one of the saturns that had a not-so perfect vrm was brought back to life permanently, by removing  the blue pci patch-cord, and plugging the pci power directly into the hashing board....  I attribute to a loose connection...
I did that a while ago.....mmmmeehhh
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Wonder if that is same guy
From KnC forums talking about class actions yet he called today and talked to Liam to confirm delivery on modules for Monday....

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I purchased 4 Jupiters during the preorder phase when they were not accepting  payment yet. When they did open the 7 day payment window I paid for each jupiter as individual orders as Pay PAL would only allow it to be done that way do to the size of the order. So I ended up with 4 orders 304, 1704,1705, and 1706. Right away the distance in order numbers had me nervous so I sent an email to Sam Cole making sure all 4 orders would be grouped together and shipped out on day 1 under order 304. I was told yes and that he would fix the orders so that this happened. Fast forward to the shipping and i get order 304 on day 1 and the other 3 show up 2 weeks later.During the 2 weeks and when the first order was in transit, i was constantly getting the run around from KNC customer service told that orders are shipped based on when they were paid which for anyone that made an early pre oder knows this was not the case for us as we were given 7 days to pay to secure our spot in line.Finally after 10 days they admit that they messed up and moved my order up( they moved it up like 1 day as all other 17xx order were being shipped out at that time). Then I find out through the forums that others have received compensation for this kind of mix up. When I asked what was going to be done about the 17 BTC per unit that I lost out on, I was told nothing would be done. This does not seem right to me and I wanted to ask the community and KNC'S spokesman bitcoinorama if i'm justified in complaining about this service and treatment. KNC has made millions on our pre orders and yet cant correct mistake that cost a customer over 51 BTC

Are you serious? This thread is full of a bunch of whiney bitches. Instead of focusing on what you don't have and how Knc screwed you over, why don't you focus on that fact that KNC managed to ship you over 2 TH of mining power in October and BTC is now worth over $400 per coin!

Almost all BFL, Avalon, Terrahash, AsicMiner, Cointerra, and Hashfast customers would be ecstatic with that outcome!

Are you kidding me?? really I should just take it up the *** that they built the company off our pre orders and when they admit to messing up do nothing about it??  you should never get into business or even better i have a nice piece of land i want to sell you

For arguments sake let's say that's fine with a lot of us because we had similar problems but decided there were more important things to think about and talk about.

OK?

Now can you tone down the language please?

It's getting easier to ignore over the top hysterical comments.

If you want help -- keep it polite.

If you want to spew -- many of us are discovering the little Ignore tag on the left...


I have been on here for sometime but chose never to comment as somehow i would be considered a troll or bad mouthing a company. The first real post I put on here and i get deemed as whining. I'm sorry but i have been dealing with this for almost 2 months now with no help and you ask any real person and a loss of 51 BTC is not minor. Every other company have offered some sort of compensation except KNC.
only hosted week one preorders got compensated, and many others (including me) had the same things happen to preorders...  you are not alone..  but...  how can you complain (I sure can't) when the machines are making ROI so quickly?
Allocating BTC"Lost" in this matter is irrelevant, and considering the MULTITUDE of risks in this business... you did well...  It's not a perfect world, and they (KNC) are the best yet.  Imagine if you spent the same with another vendor! You would still be worrying about delivery!


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November 14, 2013, 10:47:29 PM
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Tech note**
one of the saturns that had a not-so perfect vrm was brought back to life permanently, by removing  the blue pci patch-cord, and plugging the pci power directly into the hashing board....  I attribute to a loose connection...
I did that a while ago.....mmmmeehhh
Cool sbfree....    did you notice any results as well?


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November 14, 2013, 10:49:43 PM
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To all KNC Miners,

Are we all idiots?Huh

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/14/firm_makes_3million_during_bitcoin_gold_rush/

This article clearly states they sold about 5,000 miners for a global sales of USD 29 millions. If true, KNC clearly did not help us with their almost unlimited supply of miners to reach a positive ROI in BTC.

I invite everyone to think a little bit about it and collectively realized that we have been much more lucky than smart. Yes the exchange rates have been extremely beneficial but don't be blind by your USD/GBP/EUR/JPY/RMB/CHF returns, KNC made an absolute killing with our preorders.

They were smart, us we were just lucky!!!!

PS I am sad about that conclusion because today is the day I just reached 71 BTC after 38 days of mining. How long before my second Jupiters will pay for itself???

PS Bis Bitcoinorama any comment is VERY VERY much welcome....
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November 14, 2013, 10:49:59 PM
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By the way, thinking today about Bitcoin getting thru the $400's.  Chinese who have been buying with gusto may have slacked off in the $400 range as the numeral 4 is bad mojo for them.  I would expect once it hits $500 it will take off at an even greater incline.

BTC in China is currently at ¥2656 Wink. They broke the 400 yuan barrier LONG ago Wink
400 yuan isnt even close to 400 USD(it's 65), and 2656 yuan is 435 USD, so they broke 400 around the same time, not looooong ago....  Just sayin'
I have heard that 796.com is more popular in China, and maybe a higher price.....The Chinese Behemoth is waking up.....I told my fam. and friends 2 weeks ago that Bitcoin would hit $500 in 3-6 months.....guess it will be much sooner than that. I am now predicting $1500-2000$USD per BTC by end of year.....hang on for the rocket ride!!! to infinity and beyond!
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Tech note**
one of the saturns that had a not-so perfect vrm was brought back to life permanently, by removing  the blue pci patch-cord, and plugging the pci power directly into the hashing board....  I attribute to a loose connection...
I did that a while ago.....mmmmeehhh
Cool sbfree....    did you notice any results as well?
not really phoenix, but then again I think firmware was more of an issue at the time....so improvement was not noticed.
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November 14, 2013, 10:53:27 PM
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I purchased 4 Jupiters during the preorder phase when they were not accepting  payment yet. When they did open the 7 day payment window

KNC has made millions on our pre orders and yet cant correct mistake that cost a customer over 51 BTC

Are you serious? This thread is full of a bunch of whiney bitches. Instead of focusing on what you don't have and how Knc screwed you over, why don't you focus on that fact that KNC managed to ship you over 2 TH of mining power in October and BTC is now worth over $400 per coin!

Almost all BFL, Avalon, Terrahash, AsicMiner, Cointerra, and Hashfast customers would be ecstatic with that outcome!

Are you kidding me?? really I should just take it up the *** that they built the company off our pre orders and when they admit to messing up do nothing about it??  you should never get into business or even better i have a nice piece of land i want to sell you

For arguments sake let's say that's fine with a lot of us because we had similar problems but decided there were more important things to think about and talk about.

OK?

Now can you tone down the language please?

It's getting easier to ignore over the top hysterical comments.

If you want help -- keep it polite.

If you want to spew -- many of us are discovering the little Ignore tag on the left...


I have been on here for sometime but chose never to comment as somehow i would be considered a troll or bad mouthing a company. The first real post I put on here and i get deemed as whining. I'm sorry but i have been dealing with this for almost 2 months now with no help and you ask any real person and a loss of 51 BTC is not minor. Every other company have offered some sort of compensation except KNC.

OK:

What help would you like. I'm willing to help if I can...


Give me this day my daily Bitcoin...
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November 14, 2013, 11:02:08 PM
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To all KNC Miners,

Are we all idiots?Huh

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/14/firm_makes_3million_during_bitcoin_gold_rush/

This article clearly states they sold about 5,000 miners for a global sales of USD 29 millions. If true, KNC clearly did not help us with their almost unlimited supply of miners to reach a positive ROI in BTC.

...

They were smart, us we were just lucky!!!!

PS I am sad about that conclusion because today is the day I just reached 71 BTC after 38 days of mining. How long before my second Jupiters will pay for itself???



A couple of questions....

What was the "right" number of miners for them to sell...

Assuming it's something like "two" -- one for me -- and one for my buddy... Would you have put up the $5-$10M (say for arguments sake) to develop the ASICS for your personal use?

Any thoughts?

As a side note: -- could you send me 10-20 Bitcoin if I send you my wallet address?

Edit: Question three -- what conclusion are you sad about? I can't determine what conclusions are in the article -- if any.


Give me this day my daily Bitcoin...
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