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November 12, 2013, 06:12:09 PM
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Funny how some people think that somehow since they couldn't "Win the race" buying up the upgrade boards, that KNC still owes them something....  or they got treated unfairly......
Total B.S.  You snooze, you loose..... I did.   Cry

i didn't snooze man, i ordered right at 8am.... the payment system they used had its flaws
"They used"....Bitpay!   There just is no better system.  lol

Well that's bad news! rotflmao  Grin Roll Eyes Cry


Dude....   can you imagine how many miners were hitting that page at that moment?
That's like a DDOS attack wave of legit purchases....  This is the very first time, ever, in the history of the world, that this has happened to any miner manufacturer.... think about it....  We are treading in uncharted territory. There are bound to be weak points; and KNC can't be held responsible for Bitpay's server's ping status.
ALSO...  ERROR 404 could have been shown to you by Bitpay because KNC were already sold out, or over-pinged as well.
I wish I was able to buy a few....  oh well...  This is a very competitive venue.


edit...Biffa...  No, alone in a huge empty house tryin' to stay awake to 3am....ug.
maybe that would have helped... lol
I knew I should have set an alarm....won't happen again, I assure you!


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November 12, 2013, 06:14:41 PM
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Funny how some people think that somehow since they couldn't "Win the race" buying up the upgrade boards, that KNC still owes them something....  or they got treated unfairly......
Total B.S.  You snooze, you loose..... I did.   Cry

i didn't snooze man, i ordered right at 8am.... the payment system they used had its flaws
"They used"....Bitpay!   There just is no better system.  lol

I'd be pissed off too, but really these sorts of things were bound to be mad-rush-batshit-crazy and you needed to have everything ready to go, ASIC-K I feel your pain mate really, but it wouldn't have mattered if you hadn't got a 404, if you had got through to the bitpay page and got your code you didn't have your bitcoins ready to transfer for at least 10 minutes by your own admission, the bitpay code would have expired in that time.

I mean how long did you expect them to wait for someone to pay? If they had done it by holding the order as soon as you added it to your basket, loads of people(competitors,shills,speculators,on-thefencers,whatever) could have tied up the orders and then just not paid. Then there would be people pissed off about that. They couldn't really win.

Oh they won alright...  They sold 200+ units at $950/ea ( + probably a share of shipping that was 'too DAMN high' Wink ) in 3 minutes.  $200,000 revenue is a nice win for 3 minutes work. Wink

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November 12, 2013, 06:19:41 PM
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Oh they won alright...  They sold 200+ units at $950/ea ( + probably a share of shipping that was 'too DAMN high' Wink ) in 3 minutes.  $200,000 revenue is a nice win for 3 minutes work. Wink

Roll Eyes At least it wasn't a preorder so you should be happy.


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November 12, 2013, 06:22:11 PM
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ive cooled down a lot. just been waiting on these damn upgrades for over a month now... just sucks that this seems like the one upgrade chance and it went by within 10 minutes and now the november units have different boards....

ah well....
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November 12, 2013, 06:22:54 PM
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This UPS box


Could hold 4 upgrade modules and does not cost more than $75 USD to ship

so why is KNC charging $206 to ship two board etc?



Because:

A: They made a mistake and refunds will follow
B: They decided to make some extra money on top by overcharging for delivery.

Let's see which one it is Smiley

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November 12, 2013, 06:23:17 PM
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ive cooled down a lot. just been waiting on these damn upgrades for over a month now... just sucks that this seems like the one upgrade chance and it went by within 10 minutes and now the november units have different boards....

ah well....

Not to fan the flames, but may I ask why you didn't have your BTC at-the-ready?  I made darned sure to have mine.

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November 12, 2013, 06:23:27 PM
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ive cooled down a lot. just been waiting on these damn upgrades for over a month now... just sucks that this seems like the one upgrade chance and it went by within 10 minutes and now the november units have different boards....

ah well....

What have you got in hand at the moment and what have you got ordered for November?

I've got one Jupiter, and one on order.

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November 12, 2013, 06:24:09 PM
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ive cooled down a lot. just been waiting on these damn upgrades for over a month now... just sucks that this seems like the one upgrade chance and it went by within 10 minutes and now the november units have different boards....

ah well....

Not to fan the flames, but may I ask why you didn't have your BTC at-the-ready?

He was desperate to buy some BTC the night before so I imagine he was waiting for it to go through or something.

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November 12, 2013, 06:27:12 PM
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ive cooled down a lot. just been waiting on these damn upgrades for over a month now... just sucks that this seems like the one upgrade chance and it went by within 10 minutes and now the november units have different boards....

ah well....

Not to fan the flames, but may I ask why you didn't have your BTC at-the-ready?

He was desperate to buy some BTC the night before so I imagine he was waiting for it to go through or something.

yeah man, well they announced the upgrade the night before and i didn't have any money in my cavirtex account so i was scrambling to find somewhere to buy 7 btc....so yeah mere finally sold to me and i could wait 10 mins for it to confirm since i already made the order and it was on my account, didn't know that it would disappear if other people paid first...
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November 12, 2013, 06:31:17 PM
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Oh they won alright...  They sold 200+ units at $950/ea ( + probably a share of shipping that was 'too DAMN high' Wink ) in 3 minutes.  $200,000 revenue is a nice win for 3 minutes work. Wink

Roll Eyes At least it wasn't a preorder so you should be happy.



Very happy - got my two boards Wink  Why are you rolling your eyes at me ?  Huh

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November 12, 2013, 06:31:24 PM
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ive cooled down a lot. just been waiting on these damn upgrades for over a month now... just sucks that this seems like the one upgrade chance and it went by within 10 minutes and now the november units have different boards....

ah well....

Not to fan the flames, but may I ask why you didn't have your BTC at-the-ready?

He was desperate to buy some BTC the night before so I imagine he was waiting for it to go through or something.

yeah man, well they announced the upgrade the night before and i didn't have any money in my cavirtex account so i was scrambling to find somewhere to buy 7 btc....so yeah mere finally sold to me and i could wait 10 mins for it to confirm since i already made the order and it was on my account, didn't know that it would disappear if other people paid first...


I'm sure they'll show up on eBay for $2995 each "In Hand!"

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November 12, 2013, 06:31:57 PM
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ive cooled down a lot. just been waiting on these damn upgrades for over a month now... just sucks that this seems like the one upgrade chance and it went by within 10 minutes and now the november units have different boards....

ah well....

Not to fan the flames, but may I ask why you didn't have your BTC at-the-ready?

He was desperate to buy some BTC the night before so I imagine he was waiting for it to go through or something.

yeah man, well they announced the upgrade the night before and i didn't have any money in my cavirtex account so i was scrambling to find somewhere to buy 7 btc....so yeah mere finally sold to me and i could wait 10 mins for it to confirm since i already made the order and it was on my account, didn't know that it would disappear if other people paid first...


I'm sure they'll show up on eBay for $2995 each "In Hand!"

lol, resellers hell.
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November 12, 2013, 06:34:00 PM
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Oh they won alright...  They sold 200+ units at $950/ea ( + probably a share of shipping that was 'too DAMN high' Wink ) in 3 minutes.  $200,000 revenue is a nice win for 3 minutes work. Wink

Roll Eyes At least it wasn't a preorder so you should be happy.



Very happy - got my two boards Wink  Why are you rolling your eyes at me ?  Huh

Was meant to be a Smiley but I did two eyes by mistake, sorry  Kiss

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I guess a lot of people are new to bitcoin payment processors. I even had to change PC's in the middle of my purchase because my desktop pc refused to open the cart/checkout buttons on KNC. I had my laptop open and logged into KNC and MtGox simultneously and completed my purchase from there without a hitch.

Step 1. Buy bitcoins ahead of time.
Step 2. Redundancy. Expect the mad rush or unexpected browser crash, have your laptop, phone or tablet as backup.
Step 3. Use the direct payment wallet address provided, don't use the stupid payment button at the bitpay checkout. Xfer the exact amount provided from your wallet immediately.
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November 12, 2013, 06:40:11 PM
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I guess a lot of people are new to bitcoin payment processors. I even had to change PC's in the middle of my purchase because my desktop pc refused to open the cart/checkout buttons on KNC. I had my laptop open and logged into KNC and MtGox simultneously and completed my purchase from there without a hitch.

Step 1. Buy bitcoins ahead of time.
Step 2. Redundancy. Expect the mad rush or unexpected browser crash, have your laptop, phone or tablet as backup.
Step 3. Use the direct payment wallet address provided, don't use the stupid payment button at the bitpay checkout. Xfer the exact amount provided from your wallet immediately.

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Oh, I forgot.

Step 4. Profit.
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November 12, 2013, 06:44:54 PM
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I guess a lot of people are new to bitcoin payment processors. I even had to change PC's in the middle of my purchase because my desktop pc refused to open the cart/checkout buttons on KNC. I had my laptop open and logged into KNC and MtGox simultneously and completed my purchase from there without a hitch.

Step 1. Buy bitcoins ahead of time.
Step 2. Redundancy. Expect the mad rush or unexpected browser crash, have your laptop, phone or tablet as backup.
Step 3. Use the direct payment wallet address provided, don't use the stupid payment button at the bitpay checkout. Xfer the exact amount provided from your wallet immediately.

exactly..use the address, never the button.
  I had Firefox and IE both open on kncpage just in case one didnt work.. and I am surprised people don't have a few BTC in BTCe sloshing around for kicks and ready to fire off for things like this

and remember, even if you are 100% prepared, shit can still happen and you lose anyway


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November 12, 2013, 06:47:06 PM
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I know it feels like they are ripping people off with postage, I don't think they are on the raw UPS express cost, But I agree that 3 boards shouldn't cost 3 x the postage, you should be able to get them for the one price, combine the postage for less total cost.

My point was that I highly doubt they pay more than $80USD to ship 3 modules with insurance to the UK and they charge $180.
My question is WHY?

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I know it feels like they are ripping people off with postage, I don't think they are on the raw UPS express cost, But I agree that 3 boards shouldn't cost 3 x the postage, you should be able to get them for the one price, combine the postage for less total cost.

My point was that I highly doubt they pay more than $80USD to ship 3 modules with insurance to the UK and they charge $180.
My question is WHY?

Every company makes money off of shipping. It's a great profit point for my business. I love getting 40% off FedEx and charging book rate. KNC is profiteering off of this sale because they can, so I wouldn't fault them for it. They have a limited supply of a desireable product, so they could have charged $1050 ea and charged less for shipping and no one would have blinked.

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November 12, 2013, 06:54:11 PM
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My point was that I highly doubt they pay more than $80USD to ship 3 modules with insurance to the UK and they charge $180.
My question is WHY?
Because they can. It is obvious that the people who bought the 200 modules believed the price was agreeable (total price, including shipping, import fees, and the separate HSF purchase). And judging by the speed at which they were snapped up, the buyers obviously thought the price was a steal.

Businesses are in the business of making money. If people are so willing to buy their products at $XYZ, it is not unreasonable to expect the company to charge $XYZ. Of course customers would be even happier if the price was cheaper; that is only natural. But I suspect if the price (whether you tack it on the module price, or shipping, doesn't make any difference) was $50 higher those 200 modules would have still sold out as quickly.

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