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November 13, 2013, 03:01:13 PM
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paper wallet i hear is the best, but how would i go about creating one? never done that before....
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No production, they saved others for RMA....  which is more than enough to cover...

Where did you hear that?


They haven't
They opened orders, at 2pm the site was flooded.
Within 5 minutes the orders were fulfilled.
They tried to close orders, net couldn't handle the load and Andreas was locked out.
At 7 min he managed to pull the trigger, as a consequence quite a few more than 200 have to be fulfilled, so some more boards will be made for those.
Bitpay crashed from load, error #404.
Newegg sell out of stock of Arctic i30s within minutes.
Blockchain is still processing some orders, well at least it was about an hour ago, as Bitpay doesn't pay transaction fees.

Thank-you...interesting... I wonder if that info is correct... even the news says sold in 3 mins.... his says seven....
But yeah, if so... production time & a small step backwards for a day...
but somehow I still doubt that is correct... guess we shall see...
I'd bet they could run manufacture them in the AM, and still make it out the door same day....

In another lifetime -- a few centuries ago -- I was working in computer manufacturing... and yeah there are times when it's simpler to make another run -- even if the product is now "out of date"... I mean -- like it's a month old -- that's a decade in the auto industry yah know.

I have never seen anything in this thread that would make me doubt Bitcoinarama's words -- regardless of all the moaning and complaining seen here.

As for your last point... Hmmm? maybe. I would have to see that. Probably take more than a day to scratch out the paperwork -- but nice if they did it.

But, if they can do it they should offer all the Saturn and Mercury owners another kick at the cat -- and then just build whatever is wanted.

It's a nice thought anyway.



My last job, one of the tasks was to troubleshoot failed boards after an SMT run.  Before I got there, the rate of successful repair was somewhat lower and failed devices were tossed aside and a run building a single board was not uncommon.



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November 13, 2013, 03:11:30 PM
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If bitcoin is only worth six hundred and some dollars next spring that would be very disappointing.

It needs to be worth thousands if it is ever to be actually used for real other than by some tiny clique. I have constantly been amazed at how long it managed not to go up into the thousands. Hopefully we have finally reached the start of the adoption curve...

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Until it's more widely accepted/used, and/or picked up by some major player, its rise will be slow.

Imagine if a nationwide chain accepted it, dispensed it, etc? Value would hop quick.

Now imagine if a major player decided to use it.. think oil companies or some other hefty conglomerate.

Exponential price rise.

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November 13, 2013, 03:11:36 PM
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If bitcoin is only worth six hundred and some dollars next spring that would be very disappointing.

It needs to be worth thousands if it is ever to be actually used for real other than by some tiny clique. I have constantly been amazed at how long it managed not to go up into the thousands. Hopefully we have finally reached the start of the adoption curve...

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What could make it climb is if a small petroleum exporting country would offer a discount on filling mega-takers if paid in bitcoin.  Yesterday I noticed 1 bitcoin was equal to the cost of 4 barrels of petroleum.



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November 13, 2013, 03:11:40 PM
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paper wallet i hear is the best, but how would i go about creating one? never done that before....

Here are a few methods I know of.

www.bitaddress.org - You can save the html page and run on an offline computer.

http://casascius.wordpress.com/2013/01/26/bitcoin-address-utility/ - I still use this on a newly formatted laptop as it's easy and tracks the addresses I've made.

https://bitcoinpaperwallet.com/ - This paper wallet came out a few months ago, but I never could get the scale/sizes right with my printer.

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November 13, 2013, 03:17:03 PM
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Just spoke to them mainly about when I can go to pick them up as I don't fancy on paying last minute ticket prices. I really hope they give me at least 1 day notice, so I am the first one to get them to hash  Grin
The lady on the phone (one of the new I assume) was very reserved on giving any details and couldn't even tell me if its more likely to happen this week or next week. So for the time being we just wait Smiley

In regards to shipping she told me that the original shipping price for the Jupiter was subsidized by them, because it costs more to send.
And the current shipping price for the Upgrade modules is in fact the real actual price of UPS.
She said that each Upgrade module is being shipped separately in its own box with its own tracking number and it weights around 300g.
So the reason you pay $60 per module is they are not going to ship them as one package and save on posting.


Cyper :

Thank you for putting in the effort!

A big Sighhhhhh..... for KNC.

For quite a while I sold into high tech because I was good at analysis and hardware design -- so I had an advantage over the many teenagers that were selling "Micro Computers" etc...  I could design the hardware and write or advise on the required software from everything to data collection in oil fields to astronomy... the latest mathematical techniques for solving large matrix systems etc.

But, it was not enough to be technically adept. I quickly learned that I had to become a logistics effort to satisfy clients all over the country -- and then all over the world. I had to learn all the shipping rates, the best way to ship the companies available and everything from LTL to Full Loadout and everything in between... (Later years when I worked in Latin America for family companies I had to start learning which airplanes could carry which cargo by weight and volume restrictions... and where the appropriate customs facilities and trans-shipping points could best be reached -- not to mention which customs officers were least problematic.) But back to the original tale: Then I had to direct and manage the staff -- and the company president and vice president that believed that engineers were trained monkeys and were a replaceable commodity -- and could be replaced every day if need be... but that too is another tale...

You can't just have the best hardware -- once you have that, the next step is top-notch marketing and great logistics. If you want proof -- look to IBM -- which took Apple out of the Office Computer market in any meaningful way for the longest time -- and spawned a whole PC industry while they were at it... Industry consensus was that many companies had far superior hardware and software to IBM (in mainframes, PCs and everything else). What you bought from IBM would work -- it was just that so many competitors beat them on price and performance. So why was IBM bigger? They were more reliable and could deliver within reasonable schedules and had so many people they could cover off even if an office (maybe even an entire region) got wiped out by the flu or whatever. In general they got the logistics, installation and maintenance right -- and that could sometimes outweigh every other factor.


So what's the point? Somebody at KNC needs to take a long hard look at their logistics and support -- and fix it.

Forcing me to pay for two shipments through customs is a small irritation -- but if someone else gets all of the logistics and support correct -- I could well accept inferior hardware. Draining your customers wallet to cover up your problems can work -- but only for a while.

If they continue to deliver superior hardware -- they can get away with inferior logistics and support. However, if a competitor becomes close in performance but then gets everything else right -- KNC will quickly drop off the map.

There are lots of companies that have been through this cycle and gone away -- especially in high tech.

Maybe Bitcoinarama can make the point with the "powers that be".

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November 13, 2013, 03:18:31 PM
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If bitcoin is only worth six hundred and some dollars next spring that would be very disappointing.

It needs to be worth thousands if it is ever to be actually used for real other than by some tiny clique. I have constantly been amazed at how long it managed not to go up into the thousands. Hopefully we have finally reached the start of the adoption curve...

-MarkM-


What could make it climb is if a small petroleum exporting country would offer a discount on filling mega-takers if paid in bitcoin.  Yesterday I noticed 1 bitcoin was equal to the cost of 4 barrels of petroleum.

Would you consider gold -- by the kilo?  Wink

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paper wallet i hear is the best, but how would i go about creating one? never done that before....

Here are a few methods I know of.

www.bitaddress.org - You can save the html page and run on an offline computer.

http://casascius.wordpress.com/2013/01/26/bitcoin-address-utility/ - I still use this on a newly formatted laptop as it's easy and tracks the addresses I've made.

https://bitcoinpaperwallet.com/ - This paper wallet came out a few months ago, but I never could get the scale/sizes right with my printer.
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November 13, 2013, 03:20:21 PM
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Time to vote!

Bitcoin Project of the Season - Autumn 2013 - Nominations

give KnC the deserved boost Tongue

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November 13, 2013, 03:21:37 PM
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So what's the point? Somebody at KNC needs to take a long hard look at their logistics and support -- and fix it.

Etc etc.

Overall though, isn't that what Amazon etc are for? Just churn out the superior units and ship them by the containerload to someone that does all that etc etc etc stuff from their worldwide network of fulfillment centres?

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November 13, 2013, 03:32:02 PM
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So what's the point? Somebody at KNC needs to take a long hard look at their logistics and support -- and fix it.

Etc etc.

Overall though, isn't that what Amazon etc are for? Just churn out the superior units and ship them by the containerload to someone that does all that etc etc etc stuff from their worldwide network of fulfillment centres?

-MarkM-


That's one way of looking at it -- and indeed your opinion is correct -- in my assessment.

However, this is still a specialty machine, and to use Amazon which is a distribution net you would have to determine the sales projections by region.

Currently I think they are best off to remain centralized and fix their problems.

Using Amazon they would also face "stale inventory" issues and could not fix problems in units that are near the shipping stage -- like I am sure they can now.

There are too many advantages to staying centralized for now. Think about it and the issues may become apparent -- most are related to the speed of change in the "industry" (such as it is.

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November 13, 2013, 03:32:50 PM
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If bitcoin is only worth six hundred and some dollars next spring that would be very disappointing.

It needs to be worth thousands if it is ever to be actually used for real other than by some tiny clique. I have constantly been amazed at how long it managed not to go up into the thousands. Hopefully we have finally reached the start of the adoption curve...

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What could make it climb is if a small petroleum exporting country would offer a discount on filling mega-takers if paid in bitcoin.  Yesterday I noticed 1 bitcoin was equal to the cost of 4 barrels of petroleum.

That is a direct attack on the US petrodollar....what you suggest would be catastrophic for the US...they would attack that country immediately.
Look at how they treat Argentina etc. for guidance in this area.
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November 13, 2013, 03:40:51 PM
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If bitcoin is only worth six hundred and some dollars next spring that would be very disappointing.

It needs to be worth thousands if it is ever to be actually used for real other than by some tiny clique. I have constantly been amazed at how long it managed not to go up into the thousands. Hopefully we have finally reached the start of the adoption curve...

-MarkM-


What could make it climb is if a small petroleum exporting country would offer a discount on filling mega-takers if paid in bitcoin.  Yesterday I noticed 1 bitcoin was equal to the cost of 4 barrels of petroleum.

That is a direct attack on the US petrodollar....what you suggest would be catastrophic for the US...they would attack that country immediately.
Look at how they treat Argentina etc. for guidance in this area.

Venezuela hasn't exactly been currying favor with the US.



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November 13, 2013, 03:53:23 PM
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In regards to shipping she told me that the original shipping price for the Jupiter was subsidized by them, because it costs more to send.
And the current shipping price for the Upgrade modules is in fact the real actual price of UPS.
She said that each Upgrade module is being shipped separately in its own box with its own tracking number and it weights around 300g.
So the reason you pay $60 per module is they are not going to ship them as one package and save on posting.

Well that explains that.  I appreciate your asking on our behalf.

If doing it that way allows them to ship one day earlier, the cost difference becomes more-or-less moot.

I imagine the webstore, order system, fulfillment process, etc is all setup to ship one package per item ordered, as it should be when shipping big heavy miners (as are usually shipped).

I understand that operations of this size cannot necessarily be as nimble as would be ideal.

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Has anything started shipping yet?
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November 13, 2013, 04:06:12 PM
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Has anything started shipping yet?


Don't think so. They'll probably start producing units (if they didnt sandbag them already) in the near future.  I would expect a large amount of people to get their devices late next week.  This difficulty jump will be a welcome relief after the next shipment.  I expect another 2.8-3 PH to join the network.
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November 13, 2013, 04:07:10 PM
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is their customer support still reachable via phone? got a scandinavian voice from tape which I did not understand quite well. is this a international company and where can I read the business hours of the company?
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Our second wave of shipment has sold out faster than we expected. We had aimed to sell from stock. However, due to the recent BTC price activity we sold.
what does this mean??
From 9am yes, from 6/7am, dependant on when you rang earlier, no.
It's CET time here, 6 hours ahead of New York (EST), and 1 hour ahead of London (GMT).
Cust Serv are allowed to sleep. They are also allowed weekends off. The rest of us, not so lucky, although I suffer from insomnia.
What the above means is media hype in the press caused a shit load of attention despite the fact we weren't trying with Adwords and some new peeps found out about mining, coupled with those that were set on waiting the pre-order game until a proven product existed. They ordered, stock sold.
thank you, Bitcoinorama!
I ordered via wire transfer last week in the night from Thursday to Friday and yesterday they canceled the order. So, 1.5 business days to pay via wire transfer? This is not a good business code of practice! I still try to reach them by phone but no sucess so far. Just a scandinavian voice from tape.  Angry

issue solved, order paid! was able to reach yesterday one of the guys arround 10:15 am CET by phone.
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November 13, 2013, 04:08:15 PM
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hmm, waking up to another price increase is nice.
hey you'll probably make more profit than us miners.. feel better now that you bought those bitcoins what.. less than 24 hours ago and you've already made a cool profit.

hang on to them, here in Australia bitcoins are getting some pace.. probably better to say it's going VIRAL.
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November 13, 2013, 04:10:25 PM
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Actually its 100 Gh for $950 that has proven todo in general 140 Gh average
 
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