Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[FUKT]

Anyone know how to get cached copies/screen grabbed images of the KNC site from back in June/July/August/September. Also any modifications to their order TOS.

They have quite a few archived versions on the wayback machine at http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.kncminer.com .

The problem is the cached copies do not include the flash banner KNC used on their website. I'm specifically looking for the October 15th order banner and the September banner or such.

[Biffa]

Anyone know how to get cached copies/screen grabbed images of the KNC site from back in June/July/August/September. Also any modifications to their order TOS.

They have quite a few archived versions on the wayback machine at http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.kncminer.com .

The problem is the cached copies do not include the flash banner KNC used on their website. I'm specifically looking for the October 15th order banner and the September banner or such.

Try using the wayback machine to search for https://www.kncminer.com/pictures/carousel/5390.png

[The Avenger]

Anyone know how to get cached copies/screen grabbed images of the KNC site from back in June/July/August/September. Also any modifications to their order TOS.

They have quite a few archived versions on the wayback machine at http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.kncminer.com .

The problem is the cached copies do not include the flash banner KNC used on their website. I'm specifically looking for the October 15th order banner and the September banner or such.

Do you need images? The newsletters contain all their promises. "Not later than 15th October" promises were made in these two newsletters:
https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-33
https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-37

[edgar]

ahhh... SEPTEMBER was the 'promise'

...but the KnC fluffers will tell you a promise isnt a promise unless they say 'we solemnly promise'.

lets see how that holds up when they get sent a box of wank... and NO support at all (but maybe being a fluffer DOES have benefits)

[FUKT]

Anyone know how to get cached copies/screen grabbed images of the KNC site from back in June/July/August/September. Also any modifications to their order TOS.

They have quite a few archived versions on the wayback machine at http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.kncminer.com .

The problem is the cached copies do not include the flash banner KNC used on their website. I'm specifically looking for the October 15th order banner and the September banner or such.

Do you need images? The newsletters contain all their promises. "Not later than 15th October" promises were made in these two newsletters:
https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-33
https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-37

Thanks, thats what I needed.

[Humax]

What's with this another pre-order crap?!
We have all (first batch buyers) helped KnC startup with their business and it is now up and running like a train.
Now they treat their customers like shit and put up another pre-order BS!

And the big question is when are they going to deliver the Neptune?
They say Q1/Q2. Looking back to their original promise "before September" and then "all payed order before 15th of October", which obviously they have never made it.
Maybe when lucky the first unit will be shipped at end of June 2014?

I just hate people who can't keep their words!
Anyway, couldn't be worse than BFL.... 

[Phoenix1969]

What's with this another pre-order crap?!
We have all (first batch buyers) helped KnC startup with their business and it is now up and running like a train.
Now they treat their customers like shit and put up another pre-order BS!

And the big question is when are they going to deliver the Neptune?
They say Q1/Q2. Looking back to their original promise "before September" and then "all payed order before 15th of October", which obviously they have never made it.
Maybe when lucky the first unit will be shipped at end of June 2014?

I just hate people who can't keep their words!
Anyway, couldn't be worse than BFL....  

And as a reward, we all got a 3000 dollar discount on Neptunes...!  (the first 1200 were for us!)
I saved 9 grand on that deal.
I consider that alone a hefty reward!
Yes, each delivery batch was a few days late, but like close to 50% over spec on performance from our purchase date.
Not a bad trade-off, eh?
Imagine the ASIC race like the Kentucky Derby...
Your horse may have been slower out the starting gate than predicted... but...
He was faster than the rest, and won the race running twice as fast as predicted...... by a mile...
Do we shoot him anyway?    Would you bet on him again?
I'm betting the trainer of that particular horse works on the gate launching, and improves.  

[KGBSlim]

Between me and my friend we ordered 3 Jupiters for November, recieved 2 in November and 1 on Dec 5th. All 100GHs+ over what we thought we had ordered.. Wondering how many GHs they will 'over-deliver' on the Neptunes?

[RHA]

I switched to ghash.io, and immediately my HW errors dropped below 1.5% on all machines and have stayed there. Bye bye eligius I suppose!
Anyone have a good starting point for the difficulty setting with ghash? I'm at 256 right now.

I confirm that. Switching to other pools changes hardware error rates shown by cgminer from 14% to 1.6%.

I've performed a long test with Eligius, writing down all cores numbers turned off and on. The turning off starts not immediately but after a dozen of minutes.
The cores turned off are purely random. Then cgminer turns them on (one by one). They are still randomly turned off.
(Experimental "tuning" version of cgminer 3.8.2 is no better.)

It looks like something (a config string or data sent from Eligius) causes something wrong (like buffer overrun) with November miners,
making cgminer working erroneously, especially spoiling random nonces (what in effect degrades effective hashing rate and causes cgminer to turn off good cores gradually).

(It doesn't always happen - maybe it depends on which server at Eligius it connects, I guess.)

[Puppet]

Please try some of the smaller pools too then.
The last thing we need is ghash (or btcguild) to become even bigger.

[Sitarow]

What's with this another pre-order crap?!
We have all (first batch buyers) helped KnC startup with their business and it is now up and running like a train.
Now they treat their customers like shit and put up another pre-order BS!

And the big question is when are they going to deliver the Neptune?
They say Q1/Q2. Looking back to their original promise "before September" and then "all payed order before 15th of October", which obviously they have never made it.
Maybe when lucky the first unit will be shipped at end of June 2014?

I just hate people who can't keep their words!
Anyway, couldn't be worse than BFL.... 

Well its selling only 118 left

[Nemo1024]

Please try some of the smaller pools too then.
The last thing we need is ghash (or btcguild) to become even bigger.

I've had good experience with this one:
https://give-me-coins.com/

I am sharing my time between it and BitMinter.

[DeathAndTaxes]

I switched to ghash.io, and immediately my HW errors dropped below 1.5% on all machines and have stayed there. Bye bye eligius I suppose!
Anyone have a good starting point for the difficulty setting with ghash? I'm at 256 right now.

I confirm that. Switching to other pools changes hardware error rates shown by cgminer from 14% to 1.6%.

I've performed a long test with Eligius, writing down all cores numbers turned off and on. The turning off starts not immediately but after a dozen of minutes.
The cores turned off are purely random. Then cgminer turns them on (one by one). They are still randomly turned off.
(Experimental "tuning" version of cgminer 3.8.2 is no better.)

It looks like something (a config string or data sent from Eligius) causes something wrong (like buffer overrun) with November miners,
making cgminer working erroneously, especially spoiling random nonces (what in effect degrades effective hashing rate and causes cgminer to turn off good cores gradually).

(It doesn't always happen - maybe it depends on which server at Eligius it connects, I guess.)

Agreed I observed the same thing with HW error % reaching 28% on Eligius and without even a reboot dropping to <1% on bitminter.  I have no idea how a pool can cause hardware errors (or even make cgminer think a hw error has occurred) but it is easily observable if KNC wants to point a Nov unit at Eligius to verify.

Also KNC please subtract HW errors from the hashrate.  You have good hardware you don't need to pad the numbers.   If someone made a rig which was 83290 GH/s with 100% hardware error rate which do you think should be the reported hashrate 83290 GH/s or 0 GH/s?

[chrono030]

I switched to ghash.io, and immediately my HW errors dropped below 1.5% on all machines and have stayed there. Bye bye eligius I suppose!
Anyone have a good starting point for the difficulty setting with ghash? I'm at 256 right now.

I confirm that. Switching to other pools changes hardware error rates shown by cgminer from 14% to 1.6%.

I've performed a long test with Eligius, writing down all cores numbers turned off and on. The turning off starts not immediately but after a dozen of minutes.
The cores turned off are purely random. Then cgminer turns them on (one by one). They are still randomly turned off.
(Experimental "tuning" version of cgminer 3.8.2 is no better.)

It looks like something (a config string or data sent from Eligius) causes something wrong (like buffer overrun) with November miners,
making cgminer working erroneously, especially spoiling random nonces (what in effect degrades effective hashing rate and causes cgminer to turn off good cores gradually).

(It doesn't always happen - maybe it depends on which server at Eligius it connects, I guess.)

Agreed I observed the same thing with HW error % reaching 28% on Eligius and without even a reboot dropping to <1% on bitminter.  I have no idea how a pool can cause hardware errors (or even make cgminer think a hw error has occurred but it is easily observable if KNC wants to point a Nov unit at Eligius to verify.

They already do have miners pointed at Eliguis.. for example... http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1D5FhoiuLMJJ43BCMGidwvbKWfr71g1vH9

[qiuness]

anyone thought about ordering... 1 slot left for a free one

[MANofthePEOPLE]

How good do you need to be with tech stuff to get the Neptune up and running? Also, I saw an article about the neptune bringing in up to 2,1 coins a day, can that really be anywhere close to what it'll get?

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/529324/20131211/bitcoin-mining-rig-neptune-kncminer-daily-earnings.htm

[Puppet]

How good do you need to be with tech stuff to get the Neptune up and running? Also, I saw an article about the neptune bringing in up to 2,1 coins a day, can that really be anywhere close to what it'll get?

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/529324/20131211/bitcoin-mining-rig-neptune-kncminer-daily-earnings.htm

Wow. What a devious dishonest statement to make.
No, you wont get anywhere close to that number. What that "spokesperson" forgot to tell you is that the amount of coins you mine is utterly dependant on how fast the rest of the network is. See if you can spot a trend:

http://bitcoin.sipa.be/

If the network doubles in speed (which currently happens every month), your mining revenue for a given machine is cut in half. Neptune most likely wont ship before June 2014 (thats my guess anyway), so it wont mine a dime this Christmas and it will not mine a fraction of the numbers quoted next Christmas.

Shame on you KnC (or IB times if he was misquoted).

[Cablez]

How good do you need to be with tech stuff to get the Neptune up and running? Also, I saw an article about the neptune bringing in up to 2,1 coins a day, can that really be anywhere close to what it'll get?

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/529324/20131211/bitcoin-mining-rig-neptune-kncminer-daily-earnings.htm

That entire thing is tripe.  50 coins per block......really?  ugh.

[lemonte]

Is anyone stacking their units?? If so, what are you using as spacers between them?

[Bitcoinorama]

How good do you need to be with tech stuff to get the Neptune up and running? Also, I saw an article about the neptune bringing in up to 2,1 coins a day, can that really be anywhere close to what it'll get?

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/529324/20131211/bitcoin-mining-rig-neptune-kncminer-daily-earnings.htm

Wow. What a devious dishonest statement to make.
No, you wont get anywhere close to that number. What that "spokesperson" forgot to tell you is that the amount of coins you mine is utterly dependant on how fast the rest of the network is. See if you can spot a trend:

http://bitcoin.sipa.be/

If the network doubles in speed (which currently happens every month), your mining revenue for a given machine is cut in half. Neptune most likely wont ship before June 2014 (thats my guess anyway), so it wont mine a dime this Christmas and it will not mine a fraction of the numbers quoted next Christmas.

Shame on you KnC (or IB times if he was misquoted).

That was a complete misquote. I was fired a load of questions via Skype. The guy wanted to know what Jupiter will make currently, and what Neptune will make when it is released. The guy appeared keen to learn, but knew nothing. So I explained the entire concept of mining and respective difficulty rating and how future coin price and competition was impossible to predict. I said the only thing we have to go upon is today's current difficulty. I said that a Jupiter from October makes between 0.3, and 0.4 coins (remaining in the shy side, and that the November one is a little more powerful. Then said the Neptune will be around 5-6 times faster, but due to the fact difficulty will rise, it would take a diff of 3 billion + for Neptune to make what Jupiter currently does.

I gave him links to calculators, and explained he marketing scam behind the Genesis Block to propagate fear, uncertainty and doubt by continuously compound the difficult to freak people out and ensure a large volume of backlinks to their site. I showed the static diff calls that break the daily rewards down at today's difficulty and again arp firmed that difficulty rises each time a quantity if blocks are sold and as more hardware is added to the network, so he machine has to be more powerful to compete.

The above is literally a synopsis. I taught him the entire schebang about mining, and he basically took Jupiter today and multiplied by six, and then said something along the lines about 'ideal conditions'.

This was naughty, he was even attributing all these stats to me, so I contacted Business insider about this (where the chap was from), and the original article was amended straight away last week (go have a look). IB times have just taken the article and respun it as theirs.

Also i blatantly did not say 50 coins perblock currently. I said 25 and explained the process of the reward halving starting from 50.