Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[The Avenger]

EB meets orama. recording, alghough little input from him will come

serious?   where are he?

After designing the Frankenjupiter, orama will be out whoring and shilling knccloud for fat sam - his best photo is his wedding photo - man


(Source: Speaker list from here http://bitcoin2014.com )

He looks so consumed with greed and evil these days, he had to go back to pre knccriminal days to find a partially genuine smile.

Now he doesn't even need to dress up to look like a real life Dr Evil

[Gyrsur]

remember this:

yдaлocь выяcнить, чтo y Джoшa ecть aккayнт в фeйcбyкe и oн тaм пишeт вcякoe.
нaпpимep вo втopник зaпocтил фoткy c кaким-тo xмыpeм, кoтopoгo oн нaзывaeт "нaйc гaй". Джoш cпpaвa.

BFL & KnC represent! Sam is a really nice guy!

интepьep cтpaшный

Sam has the

Maybe KNC is too busy colluding with the competition. If that last pic made people wonder this one should make you really go batty.

http://ow.ly/i/2KBu6

Sam has the Biggest, best smile!


Looks like a real Motley Jet-lag crew.

[yelloyello]

Searing, depends those tax rules and the bank attitude on the state where you live?

[Searing]

Searing, depends those tax rules and the bank attitude on the state where you live?

Minnesota..yeah the bank was wrong..just backtracking from what their computer pop'd out...they did not bother either to
check my statement which showed the 6 errors of wire xfers were canceled.. nor call the bank branch about it...just from
the computer flag'ing me and this from their main office types...

so screw them ...was legit showed them such went to a new bank...who thought the whole thing was hilarious..I'm sure
it is all over town how the other bank blew it...but then again the new bank asked...i told them..heh

tax rules are from the CPA as they exist for 2013...likely this year will change if not imho next year for sure

anyway what I have to go with this year...just glad I kept in mind the 'papers' I signed on each over 10K forms...
going legit because of such saved me a world of grief with IRS

anyway ...just a heads up to those mining in the usa ...kinda weird right now

Searing

[elasticband]

after meeting orama, he was very short in hat he would say. he is of the opinion he owes no one anything, be that a thank you, a sorry or a explanation, he stopped working at KnC months agp but cannot really talk about it, he recons he is due thousands from KnC and he got paid very little for his work.

since leaving KnC he has had nothing to do with bitcoin, why he was at the 2014 confrenece I don't know. basically he struck me as  a ittelegent guy but quite naive in his thinking. it was hard to.push him for answers, I suspect I very tight NDA keeping him quiet. while I was informing my friend David and trying to push on certain parts of.KnC's contempt and dishonesty, I could almost see Alex nodding in agreement, it was like I was watching the back of his head but knew this jaw and mouth were moving to mimic and copy the words I was speaking.

I met Alex with a friend of mine David Bailey, he runs ybitcoin magazine, whom KnC along with many other BTC companies are paid advertises. I tried my hardest to point out KnC crowd funding their own data center, breaking network protection, owning 11% of network and screwing franken jup customers.

Basically David was having none of it, he had very little understanding of what KnC had done over the last 6 months, although he has met them and thinks they are intelligent and full of charisma, he has never been a customer, only a paid advertiser. I am sure he told.me KnC are the best company to date and he has spoke or read reviews from customers which say so.

I feel as if we the community should show ybitcoin the real KnC and encourage them to be dropped as advertisers. either that of boycot the magazine.

bitcoin has taken a large turn for me recently, I have been learning and studying since 2011 and so much has changed, mostly in the last 6-12 months. who knows if I will stick around for the next 3 years.

[helmax]

thanks elasticband knc is over

[btc_uzr]

elasticband, thanks a lot for sharing this info with us!

... he is due thousands from KnC and he got paid very little for his work.

  They rip off their own staff ?!
I feel bad for him.

KnC are really cheap bastards!

[poodle63]

elasticband, thanks a lot for sharing this info with us!

... he is due thousands from KnC and he got paid very little for his work.

  They rip off their own staff ?!
I feel bad for him.

KnC are really cheap bastards!

Oh~ fxxk, Can't believe this is a Swedish company, my all imagnation of knc was broken~

btw, as my guess, knc was make mistake on IC design, almost 9 months can have product for preorder customers, they might loose a lot of money on chip process, as estimate they might change design more than twice, so they might need to use flaw chip sets to dig bitcoin back, oh~ start to worrying about my preorder, and if they are fall, I might lost my cash. 

[faetos]

Thanks, EB. That's sad to hear about Orama. I always felt that he was a decent guy, but got swindled like us by those tossers at kfc. Those guys really are lacking in decency and wallowing in greed. Karma's going to come back on them one day. I don't want to be anywhere around them when it hits.

[The Avenger]

after meeting orama, he was very short in hat he would say. he is of the opinion he owes no one anything, be that a thank you, a sorry or a explanation, he stopped working at KnC months agp but cannot really talk about it, he recons he is due thousands from KnC and he got paid very little for his work.

He owes me an apology or six for some of the rotten shit he said to me and about me last year.

since leaving KnC he has had nothing to do with bitcoin, why he was at the 2014 confrenece I don't know. basically he struck me as  a ittelegent guy but quite naive in his thinking. it was hard to.push him for answers, I suspect I very tight NDA keeping him quiet. while I was informing my friend David and trying to push on certain parts of.KnC's contempt and dishonesty, I could almost see Alex nodding in agreement, it was like I was watching the back of his head but knew this jaw and mouth were moving to mimic and copy the words I was speaking.

An NDA only covered technical and working for competition etc. He is quite capable of coming on here and expressing his opinion of his former employers. He doesn't need to say anything that's secret - he could reiterate what we all know about KNC breaking their promise not to mine more than 5% etc. It would be more valid from him as an ex-employee, so he could do a lot of good by coming out.

It shows a distinct lack of character to know how corrupt KNC are and say nothing about it and allow them to continue swindling and screwing people over. To me, his actions are just as bad as covering up for a rapist. It's spineless behaviour, but it's not unexpected. He was quite willing to turn his back on everyone on this forum he called friends to make money and be part of a corrupt company just to line his pockets.

To me, his behaviour was unconscionable and he deserves what he got. If you are going to be a whore for criminals, you gotta expect to get fucked too! I have no sympathy.

And as you point out, KNC's reputation is still very good (except in this thread). Just google their name and you get positive news articles in all kinds of mainstream media outlets. Also, check out social media like twitter and there is almost all positive (except the "KnCminer Scamming Titan Buyers?" http://asicscrypt.com/kncminer-scamming-buyers/ which has been retweeted a few times recently).

If people are unhappy with KNC, they should be getting their unhappiness out there beyond this very limited readership thread. If you were scammed on Frankenjup, you have every right to broadcast that and warn other people.

I give a lot of credit to people like RealMalatesta for trying to do this, including this I stumbled on through google:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/KnC-Miner/Boden-Select-StateProvince/KnC-Miner-KnC-20nm-AB-Not-delivering-goods-delivering-broken-goods-withholding-refunds-1146541

Help your crypto brothers out by exposing the crooks and fraudsters. Take it to the streets. While the spineless let the crooks continue their scams, any little thing you can do to show the world what KNC are really like and how they treat/scam their customers will help put an end to there corruption.

#cleanupcrypto

[vesperwillow]

^-- Totally on point.

I've honestly never understood how folks at BFL and KNC go about their daily lives, and DON'T have contracts on their heads, much less legal battles going against them--especially KNC. It's surprising to me really. Seems like people here just get angry and bitch, but what if everyone got together as a collective and outlined the legal issues with KNC and then found a lawyer?

[tzortz]

Even though, their pockets are full and if we win at the courts, it would be a decision against the corporation KNC and not against them, as persons. KNC would have nothing to give back at that time.

"Bye, bye all".

[NilBit]

what are the ericson vrms rated at for temps? is 90c acceptable?

130°C according to KnC forum:

http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/hardware/42741-kurt-asked-me-to-test-some-boards-thats-the-results?p=42746#post42746

[vesperwillow]

Even though, their pockets are full and if we win at the courts, it would be a decision against the corporation KNC and not against them, as persons. KNC would have nothing to give back at that time.

"Bye, bye all".

They'd be ordered to pay back money and/or divide the current mining center up among the people who funded it. In other words, people would get what they deserved this whole time, and the hashrate wouldn't go up so you'd have a slight bonus relating to difficulty. And good riddance, do you really want them around any longer? They clearly don't care about the movement as much as their personal profits.

What's to say their ultimate goal isn't to crash bitcoin, and prop up another currency of their own?

[tzortz]

I agree that they care only for their personal profits, but I am sure that they would not let anyone touch their assets, as EU legislation allows them to escape from such indebted to hell corporations.

[poodle63]

don't worry, they really do not have good chipsets to ship to us so far, and in next months, about the so called data center, it is just a recycle arena for degrade chips, they just try to squeeze some juice from so called degrade chips, as super junk as the prove, soon will see their fall, fxxk~ take money from kind people and shit them with nothing but lie.

[samsonn25]

By the time the Neptunes come out in late June they will ROI about $1500,

when the "FREE" Neptune comes after 2nd batch in about early September they will ROI about $500 as difficulty will be 30 Billion by then.

[Phoenix1969]

elasticband, thanks a lot for sharing this info with us!

... he is due thousands from KnC and he got paid very little for his work.

  They rip off their own staff ?!
I feel bad for him.

KnC are really cheap bastards!

Oh~ fxxk, Can't believe this is a Swedish company, my all imagnation of knc was broken~

btw, as my guess, knc was make mistake on IC design, almost 9 months can have product for preorder customers, they might loose a lot of money on chip process, as estimate they might change design more than twice, so they might need to use flaw chip sets to dig bitcoin back, oh~ start to worrying about my preorder, and if they are fall, I might lost my cash.  

Granted, Things suck right now...but...
No, the chip designing is the one thing they do really well... it's just everything else!
and Neptunes have been on pre-order for about 6 months, not 9.
"losing your cash" was always a possibility, as in any investment purchase, it's not just KNC.
I also still believe they have a surprise or two coming up for those who endured by holding the Neptune orders.
Nothing is lost 'till "the fat lady sings", and she will be due on stage soon.
We shall see.
Good luck.

[s1gs3gv]

Nothing is lost 'till "the fat lady sings", and she will be due on stage soon.

The promise was Q1/2 ?

[Phoenix1969]

Nothing is lost 'till "the fat lady sings", and she will be due on stage soon.

The promise was Q1/2 ?

yes
q1 Jan feb march
q2 april May June  -  they have over 5 weeks still in Q2
q3 July Aug Sept
Q4 Oct Nov. Dec.