boylin
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FalconFly
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January 25, 2014, 11:31:21 AM |
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Terribly expensive... Typical "looking for the greater fool" sale (approx. less than 60% ROI)... I think by now it's safe to say it's impossible not to get a "greater fool" sale on EBay, as well as any shipping-ready low-end/medium-end hardware from a manufacturer. The only people making money there are the resellers. Nothing on the market (ready-to-ship) seems to be even remotely able to ROI. Everything else (high-priced pre-order gear) is the usual gamble. IMHO if you have 900 quid to spend, buy BTC directly at a price you deem attractive.
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kabopar
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January 25, 2014, 12:02:14 PM |
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had some issues with my newly bought bitfurys. just wanted to share this experience: cgminer 3.8.4 did not work well with these things, i use bfgminer 3.10 right now. so far my HW Error rate dropped from 65%(!) to 3.2% (still dropping)
Do you mean the USB Blue Fury or Red Fury or the bitfury based boards (there are quite a few of those including Drillbit and others)? Both the latest cgminer and bfgminer support the USB miners, and some of the boards. I also use bfgminer 3.10 with some of these and cgminer 3.10 with others. What sort of hash rate are you getting? There is a support thread for for the Blue/Red Fury at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=319419.0Cheers oh, sorry. to clarify: Red Fury, right now at 2.3 GH/s each (along some Block eruptors, but they work great and without any hassle). i found that i had this problem in combination with slush's pool, those Red Furys and the aforementioned cgminer version. a litecoin pool i tested worked better, still had around 20% HW Error rate. i just wanted to mention this because it seemed like it was a problem that occured with the Red Fury/cgminer/slush setup. and i am pretty sure this is a common setup. thank you for the link It looks like the latest versions of both cgminer and bfgminer provide a similar level of support for the Red Fury. The main difference in the setup is that the device drivers used are completely different. I have been mining on Slush with Blue/Red Fury devices using mostly bfgminer, but am using cgminer for other devices. If it is working fine for you on bfgminer, perhaps you should stay there. If you are interested in getting slightly higher performance from your RF miner(s) check out the thread mentioned before, as it has a lot of inputs from other users who over-clocked these devices. There is a simple 'pencil mod' which gets something like 2.6 GH/sec. If you want to explore this you should probably shift this to the Blue Fury support thread, as it is probably not unique to Slush's pool. Cheers
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kkurtmann
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January 25, 2014, 12:49:32 PM |
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I still haven't messed with multi-miner, but I did buy his app because I plan to try it out. Typically (always) you will put the worker info into the mining software. Also, make sure you use correct pool URL. Then go to Slush>my account login and make sure the "last share at" column says "0 minutes" for that worker and shares etc are accumulating.
I like the set up and ease of use for multiminer. I have also used the bitminter software as well. There are several others that I just cannot figure out. I have the below information from slush's page. I am not sure how to change or update the "Last share at" setting. I tried to use the EDIT button, but there was nothing there to change. When setting up the pool settings in my miner would it be: Host: http://api.bitcoin.czWorker Name: MYLOGINNAME Password: XXXXXXXXXXX Or would it be: Host: http://api.bitcoin.czWorker Name: MYLOGINNAME.worker1 Password: XXXXXXXXXXX Login........................Password............Found blocks...Current shares...Score....Last share at.....Mhash/s*...Actions MYLOGINNAME.worker1.......XXXXXXXXXXX....0...................0................. ....0..........- ....................0.......... Edit | Thanks Or would it be: Host: http://api.bitcoin.czWorker Name: MYLOGINNAME.worker1 Password: XXXXXXXXXXX except : Host: http://api.bitcoin.cz should be Host: http://stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333
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pgminer01
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January 25, 2014, 04:14:50 PM |
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I am using bfgminer , ant U1 < 10% HW error ( via usb hub ) , while bi*fury < 5% HW error( direct connect to pc ) , I guess my U1 might cause by cheap usb hub ...
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J_Dubbs
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January 26, 2014, 08:49:00 AM |
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Not sure, but my guess would be maybe a problem with the pool. I dunno, I notice this pattern where it seems on the weekends we usually have longer rounds and technical issues start happening at the same time. Perhaps the pool is having some glitches backstage right now?
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patnor1011
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January 26, 2014, 12:06:11 PM |
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Hi guys, just quick question for people who do have some of those new 200+gh avalon units. I am not sure if I do have miner count set correctly it is at 16 right now. Second thing I do not know what HW means, number is sometimes equal, or higher, but mostly at one third of accepted number. I don't know the miner count for these (check mining support threads, and https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon#Cgminer_status_page), however HW should be the hardware error count. A small percentage (say less than 5%) is probably ok, but if it is high than too many of your shares are not effective and you need to find out why (power supply issues? cooling? settings?). It got even worse as I presume that HW count is what I am losing right now. Can someone have look at this and tell me what may be wrong I noticed different temperature on both modules... I really do not know what can I change in settings. I have set it to balance so it mined on both pools I set. This is new 200Gh unit with 2 modules and 160 chips.
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J_Dubbs
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January 26, 2014, 06:07:39 PM |
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Hi guys, just quick question for people who do have some of those new 200+gh avalon units. I am not sure if I do have miner count set correctly it is at 16 right now. Second thing I do not know what HW means, number is sometimes equal, or higher, but mostly at one third of accepted number. I don't know the miner count for these (check mining support threads, and https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon#Cgminer_status_page), however HW should be the hardware error count. A small percentage (say less than 5%) is probably ok, but if it is high than too many of your shares are not effective and you need to find out why (power supply issues? cooling? settings?). It got even worse as I presume that HW count is what I am losing right now. Can someone have look at this and tell me what may be wrong I noticed different temperature on both modules... I really do not know what can I change in settings. I have set it to balance so it mined on both pools I set. This is new 200Gh unit with 2 modules and 160 chips. What pool URL are you using? Can you, or do you, run this through Slush's proxy?
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boumalo
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January 26, 2014, 06:45:46 PM |
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Not sure, but my guess would be maybe a problem with the pool. I dunno, I notice this pattern where it seems on the weekends we usually have longer rounds and technical issues start happening at the same time. Perhaps the pool is having some glitches backstage right now? Thanks for your answer. I can't seem to make cgminer works right now! Very annoying
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kkurtmann
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January 26, 2014, 07:29:50 PM |
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by the looks of it, with so very few shares submitted by you on this relatively long round, either A: you have slow worker, or B: your connection is bad.
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eoakland
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January 26, 2014, 07:57:52 PM |
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Hi guys, just quick question for people who do have some of those new 200+gh avalon units. I am not sure if I do have miner count set correctly it is at 16 right now. Second thing I do not know what HW means, number is sometimes equal, or higher, but mostly at one third of accepted number. I don't know the miner count for these (check mining support threads, and https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon#Cgminer_status_page), however HW should be the hardware error count. A small percentage (say less than 5%) is probably ok, but if it is high than too many of your shares are not effective and you need to find out why (power supply issues? cooling? settings?). It got even worse as I presume that HW count is what I am losing right now. Can someone have look at this and tell me what may be wrong I noticed different temperature on both modules... I really do not know what can I change in settings. I have set it to balance so it mined on both pools I set. This is new 200Gh unit with 2 modules and 160 chips. try a power cycle. sometimes it's as simple as powering off, let the chips cool, and then reinitialize. what type of PSU are you using to power your device ? do you have proper cooling ? did you overclock it ?
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J_Dubbs
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January 26, 2014, 08:09:46 PM |
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Hi guys, just quick question for people who do have some of those new 200+gh avalon units. I am not sure if I do have miner count set correctly it is at 16 right now. Second thing I do not know what HW means, number is sometimes equal, or higher, but mostly at one third of accepted number. I don't know the miner count for these (check mining support threads, and https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon#Cgminer_status_page), however HW should be the hardware error count. A small percentage (say less than 5%) is probably ok, but if it is high than too many of your shares are not effective and you need to find out why (power supply issues? cooling? settings?). It got even worse as I presume that HW count is what I am losing right now. Can someone have look at this and tell me what may be wrong I noticed different temperature on both modules... I really do not know what can I change in settings. I have set it to balance so it mined on both pools I set. This is new 200Gh unit with 2 modules and 160 chips. try a power cycle. sometimes it's as simple as powering off, let the chips cool, and then reinitialize. what type of PSU are you using to power your device ? do you have proper cooling ? did you overclock it ? Oh, and for the heck of it... turn off any cell phones or tablets. Don't know about this miner but with the blades there's a conflict with Android devices using WiFi. Certainly can't hurt to turn off anything non-essential.
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tom99
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January 26, 2014, 08:35:40 PM |
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I had problem too with hashrate dropped and I need to restart miners h/w but its happened this week.
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Mentalfloss
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January 27, 2014, 01:24:40 AM |
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Terribly expensive... Typical "looking for the greater fool" sale (approx. less than 60% ROI)... I think by now it's safe to say it's impossible not to get a "greater fool" sale on EBay, as well as any shipping-ready low-end/medium-end hardware from a manufacturer. The only people making money there are the resellers. Nothing on the market (ready-to-ship) seems to be even remotely able to ROI. Everything else (high-priced pre-order gear) is the usual gamble. IMHO if you have 900 quid to spend, buy BTC directly at a price you deem attractive. I agree. During the gold rush those making the most money were those selling the tools. With difficulty shooting for the moon the 10 GH/s blades I'm running will be obsolete soon. Anyone paying more than $10 a G/Hs is sure to loose money.
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Icebjerg
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January 27, 2014, 01:49:45 AM |
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I've bee watching my shares according to the stats page. I was wondering why my miner keeps switching from block to block? Sometimes the miner stay's with a block for hours and sometimes it's just minutes even though there are still confirmations left. Would someone be able to explain? I was under the understanding the longer you stay the better the payout?
All times are in UTC. # Block found at Duration Total shares Your shares Your BTC reward Block # Block value Validity 21551 2014-01-27 01:17:54 0:56:44 633018888 41600 0.00169053 282635 25.14774250 98 confirmations left 21550 2014-01-27 00:21:10 4:14:43 2821235576 190874 0.00156324 282631 25.02511907 94 confirmations left 21549 2014-01-26 20:06:27 1:19:21 877146598 62015 0.00194748 282605 25.19078729 68 confirmations left 21548 2014-01-26 18:47:06 0:02:01 21876094 1320 0.00146207 282598 25.02195614 61 confirmations left 21547 2014-01-26 18:45:05 4:09:16 2712493846 189101 0.00167564 282597 25.09475048 60 confirmations left 21546 2014-01-26 14:35:49 3:27:45 2220629949 159487 0.00166515 282567 25.04965451 30 confirmations left 21545 2014-01-26 11:08:04 0:40:34 452879502 28531 0.00134326 282539 25.05338644 2 confirmations left 21544 2014-01-26 10:27:30 8:33:05 5735546676 398514 0.00190518 282534 25.00764282 confirmed 21543 2014-01-26 01:54:25 7:49:54 5122146689 364080 0.00176006 282487 25.05767828 confirmed 21542 2014-01-25 18:04:31 2:12:40 1402241422 100815 0.00155369 282429 25.09640344 confirmed 21541 2014-01-25 15:51:51 3:44:41 2363550548 173571 0.00165219 282416 25.10645252 confirmed 21540 2014-01-25 12:07:10 0:54:55 591558361 41783 0.00186171 282388 25.05837209 confirmed
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J_Dubbs
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January 27, 2014, 02:30:24 AM |
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Terribly expensive... Typical "looking for the greater fool" sale (approx. less than 60% ROI)... I think by now it's safe to say it's impossible not to get a "greater fool" sale on EBay, as well as any shipping-ready low-end/medium-end hardware from a manufacturer. The only people making money there are the resellers. Nothing on the market (ready-to-ship) seems to be even remotely able to ROI. Everything else (high-priced pre-order gear) is the usual gamble. IMHO if you have 900 quid to spend, buy BTC directly at a price you deem attractive. I agree. During the gold rush those making the most money were those selling the tools. With difficulty shooting for the moon the 10 GH/s blades I'm running will be obsolete soon. Anyone paying more than $10 a G/Hs is sure to loose money. You know this thinking is fundamentally flawed, right? "Anyone paying more than $10 a g/his is sure to lose money". Under-schooled message forum economists have been saying that for months now, but the truth is nobody knows the future value of BTC, which if trending upwards blows your entire theory out of the water. Buying in BTC is one thing, and mining versus trading carry opportunity costs as any decision does, but you put it in terms of dollar returns and it's entirely based on a future value unknown. The misinformation is so widespread here I know it's pointless to try to enlighten folks, but if BTC goes up in value a lot of people will find themselves wearing The Emporer's New Clothes, hope you like the fit.
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kkurtmann
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January 27, 2014, 05:35:08 AM |
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I've bee watching my shares according to the stats page. I was wondering why my miner keeps switching from block to block? Sometimes the miner stay's with a block for hours and sometimes it's just minutes even though there are still confirmations left. Would someone be able to explain? I was under the understanding the longer you stay the better the payout?
All times are in UTC. # Block found at Duration Total shares Your shares Your BTC reward Block # Block value Validity 21551 2014-01-27 01:17:54 0:56:44 633018888 41600 0.00169053 282635 25.14774250 98 confirmations left 21550 2014-01-27 00:21:10 4:14:43 2821235576 190874 0.00156324 282631 25.02511907 94 confirmations left 21549 2014-01-26 20:06:27 1:19:21 877146598 62015 0.00194748 282605 25.19078729 68 confirmations left 21548 2014-01-26 18:47:06 0:02:01 21876094 1320 0.00146207 282598 25.02195614 61 confirmations left 21547 2014-01-26 18:45:05 4:09:16 2712493846 189101 0.00167564 282597 25.09475048 60 confirmations left 21546 2014-01-26 14:35:49 3:27:45 2220629949 159487 0.00166515 282567 25.04965451 30 confirmations left 21545 2014-01-26 11:08:04 0:40:34 452879502 28531 0.00134326 282539 25.05338644 2 confirmations left 21544 2014-01-26 10:27:30 8:33:05 5735546676 398514 0.00190518 282534 25.00764282 confirmed 21543 2014-01-26 01:54:25 7:49:54 5122146689 364080 0.00176006 282487 25.05767828 confirmed 21542 2014-01-25 18:04:31 2:12:40 1402241422 100815 0.00155369 282429 25.09640344 confirmed 21541 2014-01-25 15:51:51 3:44:41 2363550548 173571 0.00165219 282416 25.10645252 confirmed 21540 2014-01-25 12:07:10 0:54:55 591558361 41783 0.00186171 282388 25.05837209 confirmed
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you poor n00b, I suggest you do a little reading on bitcoin mining your stats look like everything is running normal
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styggson
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January 27, 2014, 06:19:46 AM |
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I've bee watching my shares according to the stats page. I was wondering why my miner keeps switching from block to block? Sometimes the miner stay's with a block for hours and sometimes it's just minutes even though there are still confirmations left. Would someone be able to explain? I was under the understanding the longer you stay the better the payout?
All times are in UTC. # Block found at Duration Total shares Your shares Your BTC reward Block # Block value Validity 21551 2014-01-27 01:17:54 0:56:44 633018888 41600 0.00169053 282635 25.14774250 98 confirmations left 21550 2014-01-27 00:21:10 4:14:43 2821235576 190874 0.00156324 282631 25.02511907 94 confirmations left 21549 2014-01-26 20:06:27 1:19:21 877146598 62015 0.00194748 282605 25.19078729 68 confirmations left 21548 2014-01-26 18:47:06 0:02:01 21876094 1320 0.00146207 282598 25.02195614 61 confirmations left 21547 2014-01-26 18:45:05 4:09:16 2712493846 189101 0.00167564 282597 25.09475048 60 confirmations left 21546 2014-01-26 14:35:49 3:27:45 2220629949 159487 0.00166515 282567 25.04965451 30 confirmations left 21545 2014-01-26 11:08:04 0:40:34 452879502 28531 0.00134326 282539 25.05338644 2 confirmations left 21544 2014-01-26 10:27:30 8:33:05 5735546676 398514 0.00190518 282534 25.00764282 confirmed 21543 2014-01-26 01:54:25 7:49:54 5122146689 364080 0.00176006 282487 25.05767828 confirmed 21542 2014-01-25 18:04:31 2:12:40 1402241422 100815 0.00155369 282429 25.09640344 confirmed 21541 2014-01-25 15:51:51 3:44:41 2363550548 173571 0.00165219 282416 25.10645252 confirmed 21540 2014-01-25 12:07:10 0:54:55 591558361 41783 0.00186171 282388 25.05837209 confirmed
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When a block is found, why continue looking for it? Thats why your miner "keeps switching from block to block" Dont worry about the confirmations, that number will decline as new blocks are found by the network. Longer runs doesn't give you better payout per hour, as you can see above. (shorter is better) but on Slush's pool you are "punished" if you don´t finish the round (pool hopping) Excuse my poor english and i hope i make some sense
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January 27, 2014, 08:54:30 AM |
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where i can buy internet controller for block eruptor blade ?
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