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February 18, 2015, 02:06:56 AM
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Yay. Got another cheap S1 on its way. Every little helps

How much are they going for nowadays?

In UK about £40 - £50 including delivery.  But I buy all my miners with BTC now. Gonna start swapping them for SP20 though over coming months. I want to get the hash rate as high as possible ready for the reward chop next year.

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February 18, 2015, 02:27:41 AM
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Yay. Got another cheap S1 on its way. Every little helps

How much are they going for nowadays?

In UK about £40 - £50 including delivery.  But I buy all my miners with BTC now. Gonna start swapping them for SP20 though over coming months. I want to get the hash rate as high as possible ready for the reward chop next year.

Good to know, I have a friend who has about 10 of them to sell. I've upgraded all of my kit to SP20s & S5s over the last couple of months, so I know how you feel.
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February 18, 2015, 06:52:32 AM
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Damn someone needs to seriously look into this 10+PH long block issue every single time the pool crosses 10PH these long block times appear. I am not the only one noticing this. it makes absolutely no mathmatical sense what so ever. Unless the pool just cant negotiate the traffic at higher than 10PH.  Angry
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February 18, 2015, 07:03:23 AM
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haha S1's those are dirt cheap on ebay I seen a few go with power supplies for like $75 worth it just for the PSU but I dont think I would mine with the S1 unless your getting free electricity they are going to burn more than they make.

S3+'s are going for around $100-$150 even seen a few of those go for like $90 at ebay

The S5's are ridiculous at ebay people selling them for $430-450
which is nuts because you can get them direct from bitmain for $370

Gawminers is selling used S4's for $475 I just bought 2 on sunday they will be here tomorrow got my fingers crossed hoping they are in good shape. I dont trust gawminers after their whole paycoin mess. Have a suspiscion they are liquidating there S4's to cover the loss. Or they are upgrading to S5's

there are a cpl used SP20's on ebay for like $400-$450 I am considering buying one but man those things are power hungry figure 1.7 THS at 1100w where as the S4 puts out 2.2 THS at 1400w
so a used SP20 for $450 + a $200 PSU for 1.7 or a used S4 for $475 built in PSU until gaw miners runs out of them ofcourse. Also hoping they are batch 2 and not the batch 1 with the PSU meltdown issue Smiley I bought them on my credit card so i have some protection from the CC company I will do a follow up tomorrow when fedex drops them off  and i figure out what batch they are. If all is well will probably order a couple more.

   
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February 18, 2015, 09:44:27 AM
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Power wise it looks like the S5 is better suited for my needs. Spondoolies are great but suck power like crazy.

I know it's 1.1TH vs 1.7TH but the S5 uses half the power. So surely that must be more profitable.

The pool is still over 10PH. The VIP accounts must be greedy today.

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February 18, 2015, 11:18:50 AM
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Power wise it looks like the S5 is better suited for my needs. Spondoolies are great but suck power like crazy.

I know it's 1.1TH vs 1.7TH but the S5 uses half the power. So surely that must be more profitable.

The pool is still over 10PH. The VIP accounts must be greedy today.

VIP accounts?

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February 18, 2015, 01:04:51 PM
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Power wise it looks like the S5 is better suited for my needs. Spondoolies are great but suck power like crazy.

I know it's 1.1TH vs 1.7TH but the S5 uses half the power. So surely that must be more profitable.

The pool is still over 10PH. The VIP accounts must be greedy today.

VIP accounts?

Just part of my little conspiracy theory.  At least the block was under 20 hours.  We're back down to 9.3PH.  Who the hell keeps throwing a PH around.  Someone must either be renting a ton of gear or has some decent software to switch pools easily.  Wouldn't like to change that many miners one at a time.

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February 18, 2015, 01:31:48 PM
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Wouldn't like to change that many miners one at a time.
No need to. Big setups should use a local proxy, then you just change the pool in the proxy

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February 18, 2015, 01:39:10 PM
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And it's followed up by a 22 minute block.  Whoever this monster pool hopper is please sod off. And if my conspiracy theory is right please also sod off because it's not funny.

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February 18, 2015, 01:41:08 PM
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haha S1's those are dirt cheap on ebay I seen a few go with power supplies for like $75 worth it just for the PSU but I dont think I would mine with the S1 unless your getting free electricity they are going to burn more than they make.

S3+'s are going for around $100-$150 even seen a few of those go for like $90 at ebay

The S5's are ridiculous at ebay people selling them for $430-450
which is nuts because you can get them direct from bitmain for $370

Gawminers is selling used S4's for $475 I just bought 2 on sunday they will be here tomorrow got my fingers crossed hoping they are in good shape. I dont trust gawminers after their whole paycoin mess. Have a suspiscion they are liquidating there S4's to cover the loss. Or they are upgrading to S5's

there are a cpl used SP20's on ebay for like $400-$450 I am considering buying one but man those things are power hungry figure 1.7 THS at 1100w where as the S4 puts out 2.2 THS at 1400w
so a used SP20 for $450 + a $200 PSU for 1.7 or a used S4 for $475 built in PSU until gaw miners runs out of them ofcourse. Also hoping they are batch 2 and not the batch 1 with the PSU meltdown issue Smiley I bought them on my credit card so i have some protection from the CC company I will do a follow up tomorrow when fedex drops them off  and i figure out what batch they are. If all is well will probably order a couple more.

   

Let me know what they're like on noise.  I recently got an SP10 and it's really noisy.  I can understand why they don't call it a home miner.

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February 18, 2015, 02:27:51 PM
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Downclocked to 140GH/s or 130GH/s, the S1s are basically silent if you replace the fan. I've actually run on passive and vertical at those speed and it worked fine with cool ambient.
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February 18, 2015, 02:42:42 PM
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And it's followed up by a 22 minute block.  Whoever this monster pool hopper is please sod off. And if my conspiracy theory is right please also sod off because it's not funny.
Whilst I am not against the possibility that there could be a bug in the code that caused the pool to find less blocks when the hash rate breaches a particular level, let's look at the facts as they stand and then decide: -

From what I can see, the first time the pool went over 10PH was on the 5th December 2014, although it only stayed over 10PH for a few hours. On that day we found 6 blocks, all valid.

On 8th December, the pool passed 10PH (in fact it did it late the previous evening) and found 7 blocks that day. The pool remained above 10PH for pretty much the rest of the month and in that time it found a total of 125 blocks, of which 123 were valid. This is an average of 5.1 blocks per day.

The average blocks per day for the last few months are as follows: -

4.6 in October - (est. average pool hash rate = 7.8PH)
5.1 in November (est. average pool hash rate = 8.6PH)
5.2 in December (est. average pool hash rate = 10.3PH)
4.0 in January (est. average pool hash rate < 10.3PH)
5.2 so far for February (est. average pool hash rate < 9.3PH)

Looking at January as the worst month in recent times, we see that it started the month at 11.6PH and remained above 10PH until the 15th Jan (finding 65 valid blocks in 14.5 days). For the remaining 16.5 days of the month, the pool never went over 10PH (and was on average closer to 9PH) and found 57 blocks.

I personally would therefore call it luck (both good and bad) rather than being a bug in the code.

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P.S. In the same 2 periods in January, the BTC guild found 108 blocks and 89 blocks respectively, so our poor run in January if anything other than luck, was caused by something that effected other pools as well.
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February 18, 2015, 03:01:50 PM
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Also that extra 1PH hits my rewards.  I'm happy with 0.083 per block.

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February 18, 2015, 03:16:54 PM
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And it's followed up by a 22 minute block.  Whoever this monster pool hopper is please sod off. And if my conspiracy theory is right please also sod off because it's not funny.
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The average blocks per day for the last few months are as follows: -

4.6 in October - (est. average pool hash rate = 7.8PH)
5.1 in November (est. average pool hash rate = 8.6PH)
5.2 in December (est. average pool hash rate = 10.3PH)
4.0 in January (est. average pool hash rate < 10.3PH)
5.2 so far for February (est. average pool hash rate < 9.3PH)

Looking at January as the worst month in recent times, we see that it started the month at 11.6PH and remained above 10PH until the 15th Jan (finding 65 valid blocks in 14.5 days). For the remaining 16.5 days of the month, the pool never went over 10PH (and was on average closer to 9PH) and found 57 blocks.

I personally would therefore call it luck (both good and bad) rather than being a bug in the code.


I'd rather look at it on the face of it rather than compartmentalise this based on months .... aside from the difficulty mined in certain periods, there is nothing to make a month's period any special to the bitcoin network. So here goes ...

I was only able to get data for the period 2015-01-08 18:50:01 to 2015-02-18 13:15:21 (i.e the last block) and we have:

53 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was below 9 Ph/s
66 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was above 9 Ph/s BUT below 9.5 Ph/s
23 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was above 9.5  BUT less than 10 Ph/sPh/s
23 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was above 10 Ph/s

So there .... there may be some mileage in the conspiracy theory but we do not go without!

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February 18, 2015, 03:21:59 PM
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And it's followed up by a 22 minute block.  Whoever this monster pool hopper is please sod off. And if my conspiracy theory is right please also sod off because it's not funny.
...

The average blocks per day for the last few months are as follows: -

4.6 in October - (est. average pool hash rate = 7.8PH)
5.1 in November (est. average pool hash rate = 8.6PH)
5.2 in December (est. average pool hash rate = 10.3PH)
4.0 in January (est. average pool hash rate < 10.3PH)
5.2 so far for February (est. average pool hash rate < 9.3PH)

Looking at January as the worst month in recent times, we see that it started the month at 11.6PH and remained above 10PH until the 15th Jan (finding 65 valid blocks in 14.5 days). For the remaining 16.5 days of the month, the pool never went over 10PH (and was on average closer to 9PH) and found 57 blocks.

I personally would therefore call it luck (both good and bad) rather than being a bug in the code.


I'd rather look at it on the face of it rather than compartmentalise this based on months .... aside from the difficulty mined in certain periods, there is nothing to make a month's period any special to the bitcoin network. So here goes ...

I was only able to get data for the period 2015-01-08 18:50:01 to 2015-02-18 13:15:21 (i.e the last block) and we have:

53 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was below 9 Ph/s
66 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was above 9 Ph/s BUT below 9.5 Ph/s
23 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was above 9.5  BUT less than 10 Ph/sPh/s
23 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was above 10 Ph/s


True, When it hits the 10PH mark the blocks stop for regular users and the clock keeps running.  However, behind the scenes a select VIP elite group are actually getting the same regular block times the rest of us were enjoying and splitting the rewards between them.  Once they've creamed enough they then drop the hash rate below 10PH which synchronizes the system and the extra long block ends and normal service resumes.

Yes, I am crazy and I am aware I have opened the floodgates.

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I'd rather look at it on the face of it rather than compartmentalise this based on months .... aside from the difficulty mined in certain periods, there is nothing to make a month's period any special to the bitcoin network. So here goes ...

I was only able to get data for the period 2015-01-08 18:50:01 to 2015-02-18 13:15:21 (i.e the last block) and we have:

53 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was below 9 Ph/s
66 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was above 9 Ph/s BUT below 9.5 Ph/s
23 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was above 9.5  BUT less than 10 Ph/sPh/s
23 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was above 10 Ph/s


True, When it hits the 10PH mark the blocks stop for regular users and the clock keeps running.  However, behind the scenes a select VIP elite group are actually getting the same regular block times the rest of us were enjoying and splitting the rewards between them.  Once they've creamed enough they then drop the hash rate below 10PH which synchronizes the system and the extra long block ends and normal service resumes.

Yes, I am crazy and I am aware I have opened the floodgates.
If you actually believe that drivel and think the pool op is actively screwing you, why don't you move elsewhere?
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February 18, 2015, 04:31:49 PM
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I'd rather look at it on the face of it rather than compartmentalise this based on months .... aside from the difficulty mined in certain periods, there is nothing to make a month's period any special to the bitcoin network. So here goes ...

I was only able to get data for the period 2015-01-08 18:50:01 to 2015-02-18 13:15:21 (i.e the last block) and we have:

53 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was below 9 Ph/s
66 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was above 9 Ph/s BUT below 9.5 Ph/s
23 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was above 9.5  BUT less than 10 Ph/sPh/s
23 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was above 10 Ph/s


True, When it hits the 10PH mark the blocks stop for regular users and the clock keeps running.  However, behind the scenes a select VIP elite group are actually getting the same regular block times the rest of us were enjoying and splitting the rewards between them.  Once they've creamed enough they then drop the hash rate below 10PH which synchronizes the system and the extra long block ends and normal service resumes.

Yes, I am crazy and I am aware I have opened the floodgates.
If you actually believe that drivel and think the pool op is actively screwing you, why don't you move elsewhere?

Because I don't ACTUALLY believe that you bellend.

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February 18, 2015, 04:45:34 PM
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I'd rather look at it on the face of it rather than compartmentalise this based on months .... aside from the difficulty mined in certain periods, there is nothing to make a month's period any special to the bitcoin network. So here goes ...

I was only able to get data for the period 2015-01-08 18:50:01 to 2015-02-18 13:15:21 (i.e the last block) and we have:

53 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was below 9 Ph/s
66 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was above 9 Ph/s BUT below 9.5 Ph/s
23 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was above 9.5  BUT less than 10 Ph/sPh/s
23 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was above 10 Ph/s


True, When it hits the 10PH mark the blocks stop for regular users and the clock keeps running.  However, behind the scenes a select VIP elite group are actually getting the same regular block times the rest of us were enjoying and splitting the rewards between them.  Once they've creamed enough they then drop the hash rate below 10PH which synchronizes the system and the extra long block ends and normal service resumes.

Yes, I am crazy and I am aware I have opened the floodgates.
If you actually believe that drivel and think the pool op is actively screwing you, why don't you move elsewhere?

Because I don't ACTUALLY believe that you bellend.

But then again, you might be onto something ..... if you look at the numbers from your assertion, they tell us:

142 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was below 10 Ph/s
23 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was above 10 Ph/s

That is, during the period 8th Jan 2015 - 18th Feb 2015, the pool found ~86% of the blocks when the pool was hashing below 10 Ph/s and only 13% when the pool was hashing above 10 Ph/s.
Now, I am not usually a supersticious person, but that 13 in the above 10 Ph/s does put the conspiracy theories on the back burner ..... what do you think? And if it turns out that the 1-2 Ph/s roving hashpower that seems to affect our block solving capacity is made up of 13 rigs, that would be something!

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February 18, 2015, 04:58:32 PM
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Well if anything it's keeping this thread alive.  Been dead since  people have been switching off.  Imagine what it's going to be like at the next block halving.  It'll be a ghost town.

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February 18, 2015, 05:00:25 PM
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But then again, you might be onto something ..... if you look at the numbers from your assertion, they tell us:

142 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was below 10 Ph/s
23 Blocks where the Pool Scoring Hash Rate was above 10 Ph/s

Statistics and numbers can always be used or misused to prove or disprove a point, so here are some more numbers for you...

In December, 107 blocks were found above 10PH and only 55 found whilst below 10PH, which is a little different to the 142:23 ratio claimed in the posts above.

Cheers n beers

HP
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