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July 01, 2015, 03:06:11 PM
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Better luck (lately) seems to correlate with slush's switch to version 3 blocks. Is there a technical explanation for this?
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July 01, 2015, 03:22:03 PM
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Better luck (lately) seems to correlate with slush's switch to version 3 blocks. Is there a technical explanation for this?

Recipe:
1/3 tbsp. of black magic
2 lumps of superstition
a pinch of voodoo
3 tsp. of random
and a gallon of confirmation bias.

Mix vigorously.


For an extra kick, pour in gambler's fallacy until mixture thickens.

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July 01, 2015, 03:37:51 PM
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Better luck (lately) seems to correlate with slush's switch to version 3 blocks. Is there a technical explanation for this?

Recipe:
1/3 tbsp. of black magic
2 lumps of superstition
a pinch of voodoo
3 tsp. of random
and a gallon of confirmation bias.

Mix vigorously.


For an extra kick, pour in gambler's fallacy until mixture thickens.

And a clear illustration of "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic".

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July 02, 2015, 12:34:01 AM
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Better luck (lately) seems to correlate with slush's switch to version 3 blocks. Is there a technical explanation for this?

Recipe:
1/3 tbsp. of black magic
2 lumps of superstition
a pinch of voodoo
3 tsp. of random
and a gallon of confirmation bias.

Mix vigorously.


For an extra kick, pour in gambler's fallacy until mixture thickens.

And a clear illustration of "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic".

As soon as people simply accept that technology IS magic, we'll all happily move along with our lives.  Hey, how does that mobile phone work?  Magic!  Oh, how does that 4K tv work?  Why, magic of course!

See how much easier that is? Tongue

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July 02, 2015, 08:48:23 AM
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Better luck (lately) seems to correlate with slush's switch to version 3 blocks. Is there a technical explanation for this?

Recipe:
1/3 tbsp. of black magic
2 lumps of superstition
a pinch of voodoo
3 tsp. of random
and a gallon of confirmation bias.

Mix vigorously.


For an extra kick, pour in gambler's fallacy until mixture thickens.

And a clear illustration of "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic".

... to those who don't understand it ...
Though really these days there is no excuse for not understanding ...

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July 02, 2015, 09:57:50 AM
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Better luck (lately) seems to correlate with slush's switch to version 3 blocks. Is there a technical explanation for this?

Recipe:
1/3 tbsp. of black magic
2 lumps of superstition
a pinch of voodoo
3 tsp. of random
and a gallon of confirmation bias.

Mix vigorously.


For an extra kick, pour in gambler's fallacy until mixture thickens.

And a clear illustration of "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic".

... to those who don't understand it ...
Though really these days there is no excuse for not understanding ...

statistics can eat my shorts.. im much happier with topological metric spaces and the construction algebraic structures.. i dont care about dice rolls, seems trivial

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July 02, 2015, 10:34:05 AM
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Sadly - although I fully understand it from a pragmatic viewpoint - a lot of people do care about dice rolls.  Sadly, because people are not chasing the ephemeral 'luck' - if that was all they were doing, they'd naively pick Eligius (L-), EclipseMC (BFL), Ghash.io or kano.is - but rather lower variability.  That's a positive feedback loop that makes bigger pools even bigger.

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July 02, 2015, 10:58:35 AM
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Quite a lot of miners do not know what variance is. They pick the biggest pool because it is the biggest. If it is the most popular then it must be the best. People pick their bank (and basically anything) the same way.

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July 02, 2015, 11:51:56 PM
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Quite a lot of miners do not know what variance is. They pick the biggest pool because it is the biggest. If it is the most popular then it must be the best. People pick their bank (and basically anything) the same way.


Pretty much, but your share of the payout is less with the bigger pools.
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July 03, 2015, 12:36:23 AM
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Quite a lot of miners do not know what variance is. They pick the biggest pool because it is the biggest. If it is the most popular then it must be the best. People pick their bank (and basically anything) the same way.

If you have a local McDonalds, then for most people they would find that more people eat at McDonalds than at their local favourite restaurant.

McDonalds food must be better? Cheesy

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July 03, 2015, 03:06:24 AM
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Quite a lot of miners do not know what variance is. They pick the biggest pool because it is the biggest. If it is the most popular then it must be the best. People pick their bank (and basically anything) the same way.

If you have a local McDonalds, then for most people they would find that more people eat at McDonalds than at their local favourite restaurant.

McDonalds food must be better? Cheesy

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July 03, 2015, 10:17:20 AM
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If you have a local McDonalds, then for most people they would find that more people eat at McDonalds than at their local favourite restaurant.

McDonalds food must be better? Cheesy

Sure, also with McDonalds there is that effect from many people eating there. But they also have a low value reputation pulling in the other direction. Some feel ashamed and don't want anyone to see them eating there. Others feel the need to make up excuses to eat there, thinking McDonalds becomes more socially acceptable if you have a good excuse.

It's kind of like mining in the biggest pool. A lot of people are doing it so you assume it's the best (?), but on the other hand you know the pool is getting too big and reducing the security of bitcoin. So then you make up an excuse, maybe something like "I don't understand this bitcoin stuff, I just run this machine and money comes out." Or maybe you make up a new user name so noone knows it's you, and you tell all your friends that you mine at a different pool.

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July 04, 2015, 08:23:39 PM
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Is Slush's pool safe from the problems that affected F2Pool and Antpool last night (where they were not validating incoming blocks correctly and forked onto an incorrect chain for 6 blocks)?

I assume that slush is more competent than these other pool operators, and that his team keeps on top of required updates.

But currently slush is not listed on the "safe" pool list, so I have to ask.

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July 04, 2015, 08:32:01 PM
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Is Slush's pool safe from the problems that affected P2Pool and Antpool last night (where they were not validating incoming blocks correctly and forked onto an incorrect chain for 6 blocks)?

I assume that slush is more competent than these other pool operators, and that his team keeps on top of required updates.

But currently slush is not listed on the "safe" pool list, so I have to ask.
Slush is as safe as houses! They forked to v3 on and in time ..... you can confirm that by checking any of the blocks the pool has won lately (you do not need to be logged in to do that).

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July 04, 2015, 09:05:25 PM
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Is Slush's pool safe from the problems that affected P2Pool and Antpool last night

That was F2Pool, not P2Pool.

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July 04, 2015, 11:42:21 PM
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Is Slush's pool safe from the problems that affected P2Pool and Antpool last night (where they were not validating incoming blocks correctly and forked onto an incorrect chain for 6 blocks)?

I assume that slush is more competent than these other pool operators, and that his team keeps on top of required updates.

But currently slush is not listed on the "safe" pool list, so I have to ask.
You would have to ask slush if he uses standard bitcoind 0.10.1+ for work generation,
or if he doesn't what does he use and does it correctly ignore all v2 block headers broadcast on the network now?

The issue of only mining v3 blocks is not the only one for the change, ignoring all v2 blocks broadcast after the 95% was reached is also required

... and that's what caused the problem yesterday with f2pool and antpool not ignoring the v2 blocks even though they were already generating v3 blocks as requried

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July 04, 2015, 11:44:41 PM
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Is Slush's pool safe from the problems that affected P2Pool and Antpool last night (where they were not validating incoming blocks correctly and forked onto an incorrect chain for 6 blocks)?

I assume that slush is more competent than these other pool operators, and that his team keeps on top of required updates.

But currently slush is not listed on the "safe" pool list, so I have to ask.
Slush is as safe as houses! They forked to v3 on and in time ..... you can confirm that by checking any of the blocks the pool has won lately (you do not need to be logged in to do that).

When was the last block? Any today? I don't see anything...

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Do your own investigation and confirm yourself if this is a one, two, three, or even four or five people incident and maybe he could claim truth or misunderstanding.
Once you see how many people have been abused by his methods I believe the truth will be obvious.
Everyone has an issue here or there, but few have so blatantly abused this forum's trust system.
Take Dogie's rating against me for example.
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Be safe and don't use dogie's ratings system of any type. They are skewed by money and personal vengeance against honesty regarding his behaviour and comments.
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July 04, 2015, 11:47:27 PM
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Is Slush's pool safe from the problems that affected P2Pool and Antpool last night (where they were not validating incoming blocks correctly and forked onto an incorrect chain for 6 blocks)?

I assume that slush is more competent than these other pool operators, and that his team keeps on top of required updates.

But currently slush is not listed on the "safe" pool list, so I have to ask.
Slush is as safe as houses! They forked to v3 on and in time ..... you can confirm that by checking any of the blocks the pool has won lately (you do not need to be logged in to do that).

When was the last block? Any today? I don't see anything...
20 odd hrs ago ......
https://blockchain.info/block-index/00000000000000001242e0216eb113f1c50e4c18ecfbc8b9c0224ec82ec391d6?site=slush

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July 05, 2015, 12:00:07 AM
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Is Slush's pool safe from the problems that affected P2Pool and Antpool last night

That was F2Pool, not P2Pool.


Crap! Sorry for the typo. Fixed now.

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July 05, 2015, 12:05:45 AM
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Is Slush's pool safe from the problems that affected P2Pool and Antpool last night (where they were not validating incoming blocks correctly and forked onto an incorrect chain for 6 blocks)?

I assume that slush is more competent than these other pool operators, and that his team keeps on top of required updates.

But currently slush is not listed on the "safe" pool list, so I have to ask.
You would have to ask slush if he uses standard bitcoind 0.10.1+ for work generation,
or if he doesn't what does he use and does it correctly ignore all v2 block headers broadcast on the network now?

The issue of only mining v3 blocks is not the only one for the change, ignoring all v2 blocks broadcast after the 95% was reached is also required

... and that's what caused the problem yesterday with f2pool and antpool not ignoring the v2 blocks even though they were already generating v3 blocks as requried

I thought I was asking slush. I guess he doesn't answer on this thread.

It would be nice if someone from slush's team would comment on this important issue.

Of course the pool would actually have to find some blocks in order for it to be an actual problem Smiley

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