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August 27, 2015, 09:51:17 PM
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Well concerning the NEW Hashrate increase.

I think the one thing you are missing is ANTPOOL.

Over the past couple of days, Antpool has been suffering from several Blocks taking from 5-10 hours to complete.
Many people from there are getting a negative profit, and are getting pretty ticked off about it.
A lot of people are saying it is because of Hashnet and the new BIP101, but that can be speculative at this point.

I think as soon as ANTPOOL get's there sh*t together, Slush pool may see the Decrease in Hashrate.
And now Slush Pool holding at almost now a 9 hour block HuhHuh

Just wanted to bring this into the mix.

Be good.
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August 27, 2015, 10:25:37 PM
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Whoever is moving their big hash here is more likely a farm hedging against something, or against BIP101 (thus voting for the status quo), the latter more likely applying to the over 2PH switchers. Another theory I hold is they are just here for the free ride (and the NMC bonus to boot!).
Saying that, the coinscape has shifted a bit with the bold BIP101 (and XT) support thats been shown networkwide. The fall in BTC rate, as a consequence, also makes slush quite appealing to "bigger" miners, what with (as mentioned above) being fee free and the inspired merged mining. May the luck improve!

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August 28, 2015, 03:11:02 PM
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Well concerning the NEW Hashrate increase.

I think the one thing you are missing is ANTPOOL.

Over the past couple of days, Antpool has been suffering from several Blocks taking from 5-10 hours to complete.
Many people from there are getting a negative profit, and are getting pretty ticked off about it.
A lot of people are saying it is because of Hashnet and the new BIP101, but that can be speculative at this point.

I think as soon as ANTPOOL get's there sh*t together, Slush pool may see the Decrease in Hashrate.
And now Slush Pool holding at almost now a 9 hour block HuhHuh

Just wanted to bring this into the mix.

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There goes a block to end that drought. After the luck Slush has been having, that slow down was surely warranted. 

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August 28, 2015, 04:23:47 PM
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In another few days, the "0% Pool fee" should be over, right? It will be interesting to see if some of the recently added 15PH goes somewhere else after that. Most interesting will be that single 12PH "whale" and his/her actions.
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August 28, 2015, 07:37:51 PM
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In another few days, the "0% Pool fee" should be over, right? It will be interesting to see if some of the recently added 15PH goes somewhere else after that. Most interesting will be that single 12PH "whale" and his/her actions.

Yep, I agree, It will be interesting to see who stays.

As Antpool is having less problems now, and the blocks are hitting quicker.
I think the move will happen shortly.

No fees. Great.
NMC?Huh? Still haven't seen a positive profit from that. Or maybe I am not reading it correctly?

Just about 4Tb on Slush is about $7 ish.
On Antpool when normal, 4Tb is about $10+ ish.

Big difference.

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August 28, 2015, 07:53:49 PM
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In another few days, the "0% Pool fee" should be over, right?

6 more days to go. Im also curious about the pool hashrate.. (with 33.6 Ph/s we should have around 12-13 hits a day)
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August 28, 2015, 08:01:47 PM
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In another few days, the "0% Pool fee" should be over, right? It will be interesting to see if some of the recently added 15PH goes somewhere else after that. Most interesting will be that single 12PH "whale" and his/her actions.

Yep, I agree, It will be interesting to see who stays.

As Antpool is having less problems now, and the blocks are hitting quicker.
I think the move will happen shortly.

No fees. Great.
NMC?Huh? Still haven't seen a positive profit from that. Or maybe I am not reading it correctly?

Just about 4Tb on Slush is about $7 ish.
On Antpool when normal, 4Tb is about $10+ ish.

Big difference.

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Variance... As a miner you should know that. Mining is a statistical operation not exact one. You can say only that there is such and such chance to find a block after so many hashes but there is a chance that you will never find a block. Not a big one but a chance. Payout should be the same on any pool with same luck. Only difference is fee and merged mining...

NMC is converted to BTC and added to your BTC balance...

And Antpool is not running BIP101 so it is not that in any way. They just have a coinbase sig 8MB. That can be vote for BIP101 but you can't be sure... Unless you know something I don't.
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August 28, 2015, 08:15:37 PM
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Just about 4Tb on Slush is about $7 ish.
On Antpool when normal, 4Tb is about $10+ ish.

I honestly wish your numbers could be right, and that merged mining is not worth the effort .... if only to prove that luck does play a big part in finding and "winning" blocks, but I know you are no where near the mark.

If your numbers were right, in the multiples of the hash on slush (pre and post BIP101 block flagging cum XT, with and without fees), no one would mine here. But that pool hash-rate has literally doubled in the last few weeks is even more telling. Thats why you are wrong.

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August 28, 2015, 09:05:28 PM
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Just about 4Tb on Slush is about $7 ish.
On Antpool when normal, 4Tb is about $10+ ish.

I honestly wish your numbers could be right, and that merged mining is not worth the effort .... if only to prove that luck does play a big part in finding and "winning" blocks, but I know you are no where near the mark.

If your numbers were right, in the multiples of the hash on slush (pre and post BIP101 block flagging cum XT, with and without fees), no one would mine here. But that pool hash-rate has literally doubled in the last few weeks is even more telling. Thats why you are wrong.

Not sure what you mean by My numbers not being correct.
That is what i am getting.
Here is a picture of my Revenue from Slush and Antpool at the same Hashrate and same 24 hour time frame.
This is from this week.

http://i.imgur.com/z1YwZ9V.jpg

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August 28, 2015, 09:13:03 PM
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Not to be disrespectful to you, but I too could make up an image with the numbers reversed ....!

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August 28, 2015, 09:13:48 PM
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1 day isnt reliable - look at statistics on blockchain.info

Edit: 4 days ago you would have done 0.05 @ slush with your 4 Th/s.
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August 28, 2015, 09:36:58 PM
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1 day isnt reliable - look at statistics on blockchain.info

Edit: 4 days ago you would have done 0.05 @ slush with your 4 Th/s.

That is right, since I did the exact thing. To have a better idea, one must at least have data going back to a month, considering payments.

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August 28, 2015, 10:02:32 PM
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Not to be disrespectful to you, but I too could make up an image with the numbers reversed ....!

Why Lie, Don't see the point.
It is what it is.
I don't even see the argument?
All I was doing is just stating what I have made, that was it.

The real of it, is that During the past few days, Slush has seen a Rise in Hashrate, regardless of Zero Fees or Merged Mining,
with that said, More Profit is being made, which we all have been talking about.
I am sure some of it came from Antpool, and the 12+ Farm that popped on board, which probably came from Antpool, since they went from
80+ Ph/s the other day to 70ish today.

Now that Antpools Blocks are hitting more normal now, it will be interesting to see if the hashrate at Slush will decrease.

With MY past experience with mining at Slush, Antpool and F2Pool, I have made the most profit at Antpool, Period....
Now saying that, I don't necessary think they are the best in any way.
They are Rude, Don't answer there own customers issues. Hardware Builder.... Not much competition for them !!!!
Slush IS MUCH BETTER AND USER FRIENDLY, WAY better Dashboard then almost any pool I have ever been too.
But, I have not made as much here as other Pools.

As most of us have seen, just a very short time ago, Slush was at around 13 Ph/s, compared to 70-80 Ph/s at the others.
That did make a difference in Payout and Profit.

Just saying......

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August 28, 2015, 10:12:55 PM
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You missed the point as I never intended to "lie", rather to pick any other day that slush had better luck than f2pool (?) and then make a comparison thereof and henceforth paint slush in better light (NOTE: The operative word here is DAY). But like most have already said, compare over a longer period (actually, you / I could make a very rough estimate based on blocks won by each pool @25BTC each factored by the percentage of 4TH over average pool hashrate since the start of August).

So there you have my made up image with reversed numbers. It does not clear up the non-argument that is luck, but it has a clean crisp font anyways.

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August 28, 2015, 10:19:24 PM
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You missed the point as I never intended to "lie", rather to pick any other day that slush had better luck than f2pool (?) and then make a comparison thereof and henceforth paint slush in better light (NOTE: The operative word here is DAY). But like most have already said, compare over a longer period (actually, you / I could make a very rough estimate based on blocks won by each pool @25BTC each factored by the percentage of 4TH over average pool hashrate since the start of August).

So there you have my made up image with reversed numbers. It does not clear up the non-argument that is luck, but it has a clean crisp font anyways.

Wow, You must be having a bad day....
I have no need to lie or Fake an image, just showing you what I had made.
And you are right, that was just one day I showed.
But that still doesn't change the fact that I have made more money elsewhere !!

I think the font you are referring to is Straight from Coinbase. That's where I snapped it from.
Anyone that uses them, would notice that. But who cares....

But I now do see what you are saying.
But regardless, that was just my observance and opinion.

Have a better day.  Stop drinking so much Coffee.. LOL

LUCK, Yes for sure. Luck is the key... My Old (Most Likely Dead) Calculus Professor would have said "Math really " ......

Be Good....
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August 28, 2015, 10:26:24 PM
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Wow, You must be having a bad day....

You talking to me there? Me having a bad day?
Last I checked, we had 11 blocks today already .... and counting! If that is a bad day, give me more (bad days I mean)!

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August 28, 2015, 10:37:06 PM
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I just looked at Antpool and F2Pool.

F2Pool will pay you about 4% less then Antpool. But there will be no luck factor since it is PPS. Antpool is PPLNS 0% fee without miners fee or PPS 2,5% fee.

But Slush will pay you with Slush method(it is complicated to explain but if you are on a pool all the time is same as PPLNS or Proportional) with 0 fee and pay out miners fees to. In addition to that you get NMC converted to BTC...

So if all pools were to operate with 100% luck Slush would pay biggest amount. But you will get 100% luck or close to that only if you look at long enough timefraim. You can look at luck number in pool dashboard...

1 day 80%, 7 days 98%, 30 days 106%

Old but you have basic data:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools
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August 28, 2015, 10:37:53 PM
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Wow, You must be having a bad day....

You talking to me there? Me having a bad day?
Last I checked, we had 11 blocks today already .... and counting! If that is a bad day, give me more (bad days I mean)!
With this hashrate it is a bad day... With old one it wasn't... 80%
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August 28, 2015, 11:36:16 PM
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LUCK, Yes for sure. Luck is the key... My Old (Most Likely Dead) Calculus Professor would have said "Math really " ......
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Yes, it is luck, or more specifically, "chance".

Mining is a brute force method of finding nonces that match a certain mathematical formula.

Your misunderstanding of the terms Variance, Chance, Cumulative Distribution Functions and general lack of knowledge on mining is adding a lot of noise to this thread, so please, refrain of posting here things that aren't related directly to Slush's pool.

Recently, Slush has been paying more than any other pool thanks to its fee-less promotion and in a smaller part to the NMC merged mining.

Check your math, check the last payouts from the pool and do a thorough comparison, then you will see what we more seasoned forum users are talking about when we say Slush is having good "luck".

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August 29, 2015, 12:01:32 AM
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@ Daplayer001

Wanna have another even better example?

Look at ghash.io they got 7 (seven!! Blocks) within 24h (starting @ 2015-08-24 19:09:37) with their 5.9 Ph.

Guess what... yeah 0.118 coins thats almost 27 bucks in 24h. So why isnt everyone mining there? Because they mine for 2d without hitting a block as well.
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