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May 16, 2013, 04:48:52 AM
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I disagree, there hasn't been a block miscalculation since the one everybody went berserk about exactly one week ago.

block=start_time,duration,reward,hashes,luck,difficulty,confirmations
235160=2013-05-08 15:13:44,1:27:14,0.00000096,9167,1.34,10076292,100

Since then people have been reporting the slightest variations as problems - when it's perfectly normal to have some variation - based on your own luck and the pool's luck as a whole.

Where people are reporting zero payouts, they are showing that they have submitted no shares - meaning connectivity issue - not block calculation issues.

I think Slush is monitoring from afar (I don't blame him for not coming on here with all the bitching going on) and long may it continue. Connectivity issues should be kept separate from the block miscalculation issues (which seem to have disappeared as I say).
User was looking at screen as he reports(and he is not the only one). I had logs that prove that shares are missing(unfortunately log is deleted when you restart CGminer and I deleted the copy from my computer since there were no way to report it to Slush and the block got confirmed). CGminer reported accepted shares(meaning that cgminer sanded the share and pool confirmed it valid) and pool didn't record them. Nobody is saying it is a calculation issue. It is database issue when you see this.

And I don't think Slush is monitoring this. Unfortunately I starting to think that something happened to him about 10 days ago and he can't control the pool and it is having bigger and bigger problems.

I still use Slush as a backup pool and I did see in time of maintenance of my new pool one miner connecting on Slush(stratum) and the other with same configuration going over all stratum server and api to old backup. So tell me that this is normal for a normal working pool. After loosing on 13 blocks I have given up on Slush since it cost me about 0.05BTC
Man, all the Fear/Uncertainty/Doubt you can dish up.

All the blocks I've seen with incorrect payouts were eventually corrected.  I see some people freak out just after "Processing..." is completed.  It's clear there are multiple calculations on different boxes to get the final number.  I suspect on some of the blocks with "short" payouts, one of the boxes is missing from that calc.  You can refresh and watch it grow in 3rds...

I think the pool is better than ever.  He moved to a more stable host (and faster IMHO)....  I think he's tired of having 5000 employees and having a handful of those who work the least complain the most.

He's recalculating "short" blocks... it seems correct...   but I tell you what.  Log your next block session, don't lose the logs, and come back and complain with some REAL evidence you're being shorted.  Coming on here and bitching about what you suspect doesn't do anyone any favors.'

There are logging options in cgminer.  Use them, do the math, and then come back with real evidence and make some real accusations.  The pool has never been stronger....  He reacted to a theft, and a DDoS attack, and it's still going strong.  All the while, maintaining a good attitude and helping people.  Give the guy a break...  and we'll see you back next block with some real evidence, right?
You relay don't get it. I had log and this is first time in 10 days someone asked for it. I have explained how I know what I know in forum and also why I can't post them directly. Read back and you will figure it out why none asked to have them. And I'm not the only one who had this problem so realy. I'm not moving back just to give you a log. I'm not stupid. Since I moved I didn't have to make a single complaint about payouts and look at a single log since all is as it should be. Last days at Slush were:"Hell what was wrong with this one, this one and this one...", connecting to miners to see why they are not submitting shares seeing everything is OK and hoping it will fix out. Hell no I don't need this drama. I like that I only need to refresh a page once a day and see all is well. It is relaxing.
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May 16, 2013, 05:50:19 AM
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Man, all the Fear/Uncertainty/Doubt you can dish up.

All the blocks I've seen with incorrect payouts were eventually corrected.  I see some people freak out just after "Processing..." is completed.  It's clear there are multiple calculations on different boxes to get the final number.  I suspect on some of the blocks with "short" payouts, one of the boxes is missing from that calc.  You can refresh and watch it grow in 3rds...

I think the pool is better than ever.  He moved to a more stable host (and faster IMHO)....  I think he's tired of having 5000 employees and having a handful of those who work the least complain the most.

He's recalculating "short" blocks... it seems correct...   but I tell you what.  Log your next block session, don't lose the logs, and come back and complain with some REAL evidence you're being shorted.  Coming on here and bitching about what you suspect doesn't do anyone any favors.'

There are logging options in cgminer.  Use them, do the math, and then come back with real evidence and make some real accusations.  The pool has never been stronger....  He reacted to a theft, and a DDoS attack, and it's still going strong.  All the while, maintaining a good attitude and helping people.  Give the guy a break...  and we'll see you back next block with some real evidence, right?
You relay don't get it. I had log and this is first time in 10 days someone asked for it. I have explained how I know what I know in forum and also why I can't post them directly. Read back and you will figure it out why none asked to have them. And I'm not the only one who had this problem so realy. I'm not moving back just to give you a log. I'm not stupid. Since I moved I didn't have to make a single complaint about payouts and look at a single log since all is as it should be. Last days at Slush were:"Hell what was wrong with this one, this one and this one...", connecting to miners to see why they are not submitting shares seeing everything is OK and hoping it will fix out. Hell no I don't need this drama. I like that I only need to refresh a page once a day and see all is well. It is relaxing.

Now if only we didn't have to read you go on and on and on and on about it.... yeesh - you're glad you're gone, and so are we - have fun blathering on at your new pool thread....

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May 16, 2013, 06:30:07 AM
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Now if only we didn't have to read you go on and on and on and on about it.... yeesh - you're glad you're gone, and so are we - have fun blathering on at your new pool thread....
If there wasn't a stupid comment that there isn't a problem or your stupid comment you wouldn't. I hope that this error soon start affecting you so you will know the pain me and about 10 other users that have reported this had or have. But the comment like that made me move so it is a good think...

And Slush is still my backup pool so I'm still looking if it is working correctly and helping with my experiences to users who gets "It is not the pool it is you"(so they know that if they get ping timeout that doesn't mean that they have a problem as someone suggested or that if tracert doesn't work or that they didn't send the shares even if they seen them on screen or that they got disconnected even if the shares were accepted and so on with stupid explanation). I know this is not the case and I can explain why for every example. But seeing more and more reports shares counting errors and I'm relay thinking of changing priority to make Slush backup pool of backup pool. But then again noting is wrong so really don't know why this is happening right?
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May 16, 2013, 06:37:53 AM
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I hope organofcorti & others not blind & can see.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3889.msg2165312#msg2165312
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May 16, 2013, 06:40:39 AM
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I hope organofcorti & others not blind & can see.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3889.msg2165312#msg2165312

You took my comment wayyyyyyy to seriously.

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May 16, 2013, 06:46:21 AM
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I hope organofcorti & others not blind & can see.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3889.msg2165312#msg2165312
Yes but beeing on line isn't the same as posting. My girfrend can make me look online just using my computers chrome. I don't see forum as hi security so I'm logged on all the time. So that only means that someone used Slush computer.

EDIT: or it might even be just logged on his account with forum open if he is online all the time or someone wake computer up from sleep or hibernation if he is not on all the time.
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May 16, 2013, 07:30:49 AM
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I hope organofcorti & others not blind & can see.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3889.msg2165312#msg2165312
Yes but beeing on line isn't the same as posting. My girfrend can make me look online just using my computers chrome. I don't see forum as hi security so I'm logged on all the time. So that only means that someone used Slush computer.

EDIT: or it might even be just logged on his account with forum open if he is online all the time or someone wake computer up from sleep or hibernation if he is not on all the time.
The problem here is not whether slush online or not.

He is NOT POSTING any posts for the past couple of days.
He tried to post before, even when he goes for vocation.

Both Slush & Tycho are RUNNING BITCOIN MINING POOLS & NOT POSTING FOR COUPLE OF DAYS.
WHY THEY NOT POSTING IS THE QUESTION.
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May 16, 2013, 07:47:40 AM
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Well, if I were running something big like a pool and I were visiting family or on vacation or something that required me to be away from my normal access, I would log into forums from time to time, but if I didn't have the time to get the info everyone wanted, I would probably just not say anything.  Aside from being the pool operator, he's still a person and entitled to have his own life away from here. The pool is still running, and any issues can be resolved in time.
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May 16, 2013, 07:57:12 AM
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Yes but even saying I'm hire will look into next mount would help. He is away now for 15 days. As far as I know this is not normal for him and saying anything else is just lying to yourself. Something is wrong. Even on holidays(I don't believe that they are so long) I would post something like I will look into this when I will be back on... So relay there is something else and the only explanation I can think of is that something happen to him and can't post or look at the pool.
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May 16, 2013, 08:26:33 AM
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Having seen how Slush operates, he would normally post something even if it were 'I will look into any issues when I get a moment' kind of post, even when up to his ears in shit when the OVH hack happened and he was working flat out to sort it he still maintained comms.
I hope all is well with him but am a wee bit concerned.
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May 16, 2013, 08:30:37 AM
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Both Slush & Tycho are RUNNING BITCOIN MINING POOLS & NOT POSTING FOR COUPLE OF DAYS.
WHY THEY NOT POSTING IS THE QUESTION.

With more and more ASICs coming, much bigger load is expected to the pools, so maybe they are working on some optimizations?

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May 16, 2013, 08:42:12 AM
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Both Slush & Tycho are RUNNING BITCOIN MINING POOLS & NOT POSTING FOR COUPLE OF DAYS.
WHY THEY NOT POSTING IS THE QUESTION.

With more and more ASICs coming, much bigger load is expected to the pools, so maybe they are working on some optimizations?
Having seen how Slush operates, he would normally post something even if it were 'I will look into any issues when I get a moment' kind of post, even when up to his ears in shit when the OVH hack happened and he was working flat out to sort it he still maintained comms.
I hope all is well with him but am a wee bit concerned.
Yes but even saying I'm hire will look into next mount would help. He is away now for 15 days. As far as I know this is not normal for him and saying anything else is just lying to yourself. Something is wrong. Even on holidays(I don't believe that they are so long) I would post something like I will look into this when I will be back on... So relay there is something else and the only explanation I can think of is that something happen to him and can't post or look at the pool.
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May 16, 2013, 11:08:36 AM
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You relay don't get it. I had log and this is first time in 10 days someone asked for it. I have explained how I know what I know in forum and also why I can't post them directly. Read back and you will figure it out why none asked to have them. And I'm not the only one who had this problem so realy. I'm not moving back just to give you a log. I'm not stupid. Since I moved I didn't have to make a single complaint about payouts and look at a single log since all is as it should be. Last days at Slush were:"Hell what was wrong with this one, this one and this one...", connecting to miners to see why they are not submitting shares seeing everything is OK and hoping it will fix out. Hell no I don't need this drama. I like that I only need to refresh a page once a day and see all is well. It is relaxing.

I guess this is good-bye and good-riddance then!!! 
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May 16, 2013, 11:14:16 AM
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never mind.... this lucko isn't worth responding to.  get some logs when you engage your "backup to the backup" pool and come back and bitch with some real facts.  Until then, move the luck on and stop posting nonsense.
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May 16, 2013, 12:10:18 PM
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If you are getting any more full of yourself your head will be exploding.  Is donkey rears like you causing me to moving elsewhere to get away from.  Slush must appreciating junior member who becomes himself boss of whole pool and makes users run away.

Edit - OK is good.  Is press USER IS IGNORED button is making forum much better.  Sorry for my angry.

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May 16, 2013, 12:26:27 PM
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I've noticed a problem that has occurred twice over the past week or so. I run two GPU miners (with GUIMiner) at approximately 160Mh/s each. Now GUIMiner reports accepted shares, accepted shares for the last hour and network connection problems in its log. These are the only indicators of miner health directly available to me and are not evidence of anything.

What I have seen is that my miners report normal activity with no connection problems and yet one of the miners has no accepted shares reported on my account log on Slush's pool. The first occasion showed over six hours since the last share had been accepted; the second occasion showed over nine minutes without a share accepted.  On both occasions, the time since the last share accepted matched the time since a block was found on Slush's pool but not necessarily the last block.  It appears as if one of my miner's shares were no longer be credited after the pool's 'block found' event processing.

On both occasions, I stopped and restarted GUIMiner for the affected miner and share accepted activity on my pool account log resumed normally. The shares lost were not recovered.

On one other occasion, I saw that all shares from both miners were reported on my account log as if they had all come from one of my miners with the other showing no accepted shares.  As best as I could determine, this also was related to 'block found' processing on the pool.  That is, after finding a block, Slush's pool merged all accepted shares from both miners into one of the miner's accounts.

I hope this information might prove useful to Slush.

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May 16, 2013, 01:10:11 PM
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I've noticed a problem that has occurred twice over the past week or so. I run two GPU miners (with GUIMiner) at approximately 160Mh/s each. Now GUIMiner reports accepted shares, accepted shares for the last hour and network connection problems in its log. These are the only indicators of miner health directly available to me and are not evidence of anything.

What I have seen is that my miners report normal activity with no connection problems and yet one of the miners has no accepted shares reported on my account log on Slush's pool. The first occasion showed over six hours since the last share had been accepted; the second occasion showed over nine minutes without a share accepted.  On both occasions, the time since the last share accepted matched the time since a block was found on Slush's pool but not necessarily the last block.  It appears as if one of my miner's shares were no longer be credited after the pool's 'block found' event processing.

On both occasions, I stopped and restarted GUIMiner for the affected miner and share accepted activity on my pool account log resumed normally. The shares lost were not recovered.



Same here the previous night - my fastest miner was not counted though it seemed to be working correctly (/shrug cannot tell for sure I was sleeping but again if my miner stops it doesn't recover on its own and in the morning it looked fine)

18034    2013-05-14 19:27:14    3:35:30    30026262    2702    0.00259934    236202    25.10024000    confirmed <-- Normal, usual fluctuations
18033    2013-05-14 15:51:44    3:34:13    29829536    2654    0.00208799    236182    25.43437400    confirmed <-- Normal, usual fluctuations
18032    2013-05-14 12:17:31    1:26:37    12093844    387    0.00162982    236165    25.15775000    confirmed  <-- Recovering ??
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All those below are missing shares from a faster miner
18031    2013-05-14 10:50:54    0:01:10    157750    3    0.00041860    236154    25.06650000    confirmed
18030    2013-05-14 10:49:44    0:27:05    3751992    110    0.00081932    236153    25.18090000    confirmed
18029    2013-05-14 10:22:39    1:18:11    10929435    317    0.00102232    236148    25.61227001    confirmed
18028    2013-05-14 09:04:28    1:04:00    8890231    227    0.00062620    236145    25.34600000    confirmed
18027    2013-05-14 08:00:28    0:33:49    4716423    114    0.00064109    236136    25.16020001    confirmed


Just posting since somebody else noted the same. Also I definitely see shares missing from one of the miners on the round but normally just on 1 block not the series of blocks in the row.
18026    2013-05-14 07:26:39    0:18:31    2610383    60    0.00060960

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May 16, 2013, 01:14:38 PM
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never mind.... this lucko isn't worth responding to.  get some logs when you engage your "backup to the backup" pool and come back and bitch with some real facts.  Until then, move the luck on and stop posting nonsense.

hmm... I don't find Lucko posting crap, you on the other hand definitely...

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May 16, 2013, 01:18:04 PM
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I also seem to have problems with slush's pool. Yesterday my total reward was about 0.0099 BTC and I let it mine for two hours or so. But this morning the reward is still the same. I kinda feel like something doesn't work correctly.
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May 16, 2013, 01:42:44 PM
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There is a HUGE problem with nodes not reporting shares, among other things. Just read the last ~500 posts. And block #236442 which is the last one "found" belongs to BTC Guild. If some of you haven't experienced any problems, fine. Sooner or later you will.

Slush's absence is very unfortunate and I won't return to my old favorite pool until he has confirmed all problems are sorted.
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