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May 16, 2013, 01:45:22 PM
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I also seem to have problems with slush's pool. Yesterday my total reward was about 0.0099 BTC and I let it mine for two hours or so. But this morning the reward is still the same. I kinda feel like something doesn't work correctly.
Look at statistics. If you were not looking you might mine in a 4 or 8 hours block. If this is a case you just had bed luck but this is the way it is with Slush method.
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May 16, 2013, 01:52:22 PM
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I also seem to have problems with slush's pool. Yesterday my total reward was about 0.0099 BTC and I let it mine for two hours or so. But this morning the reward is still the same. I kinda feel like something doesn't work correctly.
Look at statistics. If you were not looking you might mine in a 4 or 8 hours block. If this is a case you just had bed luck but this is the way it is with Slush method.
If you mine in an 4 or 8 hour block you don't get reward?
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May 16, 2013, 01:55:21 PM
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never mind.... this lucko isn't worth responding to.  get some logs when you engage your "backup to the backup" pool and come back and bitch with some real facts.  Until then, move the luck on and stop posting nonsense.

hmm... I don't find Lucko posting crap, you on the other hand definitely...

Fair enough.

Here are my "stats" on the blocks you reported with missing shares.  You haven't given enough detail to make a conclusive argument that you're missing anything.

18034 2013-05-14 19:27:14 3:35:30 30026262 7487 0.00596651 none 236202  25.10024000 confirmed  
18033 2013-05-14 15:51:44 3:34:13 29829536 7495 0.00591263 none 236182  25.43437400 confirmed  
18032 2013-05-14 12:17:31 1:26:37 12093844 2903 0.00677666 none 236165  25.15775000 confirmed  
18031 2013-05-14 10:50:54 0:01:10 157750 46 0.00721302 none 236154  25.06650000 confirmed  
18030 2013-05-14 10:49:44 0:27:05 3751992 968 0.00663882 none 236153  25.18090000 confirmed  
18029 2013-05-14 10:22:39 1:18:11 10929435 2605 0.00623198 none 236148  25.61227001 confirmed  
18028 2013-05-14 09:04:28 1:04:00 8890231 2174 0.00567510 none 236145  25.34600000 confirmed  
18027 2013-05-14 08:00:28 0:33:49 4716423 1128 0.00582061 none 236136  25.16020001 confirmed


I still stand behind my position that Slush and his pool is worth some amount of loyalty.  If you feel you were shorted on a couple blocks, likely because of a programming error, and leave, then so be it.... but hasty decisions like that often lead to nowhere.

I'm just trying to encourage the rest of you who haven't left, but feel like "something is wrong" to just relax for a bit and wait for Slush to return.  That's it.  And to stop with the FUD.
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May 16, 2013, 01:58:29 PM
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I also seem to have problems with slush's pool. Yesterday my total reward was about 0.0099 BTC and I let it mine for two hours or so. But this morning the reward is still the same. I kinda feel like something doesn't work correctly.
Look at statistics. If you were not looking you might mine in a 4 or 8 hours block. If this is a case you just had bed luck but this is the way it is with Slush method.
If you mine in an 4 or 8 hour block you don't get reward?
It isn't as easy as that. If you mine on a start of a 4 or 8 hour block and stop after 2 hours you will defenetly get nothing. If you finish close to the end you will get about full reword. So it is important when you stop mining. But since you can't know when a block will finish it is hard to use this in your advantage. So look at statistic page and find when you have mine this 2 hours.
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May 16, 2013, 02:12:45 PM
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Woot!   Quick blocks, quick bucks!

Awesome blocks. Unfortunately with over 900 MH/s I still have not managed to sneak a single share in ether one, according to my stats. Luck is not on my side today. LOL

My workers are only 220Mh/s (I have 32 of them).  The problem isn't the hardware, it's the system design.  The miner needs to support long polling, then immediately flush all current work and start on the new job.  If you can do this quick enough you'll get those early shares.  The hash rate will affect the number of shares you get (these blocks are below average for me, so someone else is faster) but you will get something.
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May 16, 2013, 02:55:59 PM
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Is remember seeing not send stale share setting in miner?  Know where is in what?
Thank you.

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May 16, 2013, 02:57:52 PM
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Is 0.00000058 BTC for 840 shares right? Seems very low to me.
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May 16, 2013, 02:58:36 PM
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Is remember seeing not send stale share setting in miner?  Know where is in what?
Thank you.

command line:  cgminer --no-submit-stale

or cgminer.conf:

"no-submit-stale" : true,

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May 16, 2013, 03:04:32 PM
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Is 0.00000058 BTC for 840 shares right? Seems very low to me.

Not enough information.  The time of when those shares were submitted during the round determine how much weight they have.  So it's entirely possible that reward is legit.

If I help you out: 17QatvSdciyv2zsdAbphDEUzST1S6x46c3
References (bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=): 50051.20  50051.100  53668.0  53788.0  53571.0  53571.0  52212.0  50729.0  114804.0  115468  78106  69061  58572  54747
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May 16, 2013, 03:12:40 PM
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Is 0.00000058 BTC for 840 shares right? Seems very low to me.
On what block was that? What was the number. I asked you to look that on a statistic page.
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May 16, 2013, 03:18:25 PM
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What I have seen is that my miners report normal activity with no connection problems and yet one of the miners has no accepted shares reported on my account log on Slush's pool. The first occasion showed over six hours since the last share had been accepted; the second occasion showed over nine minutes without a share accepted.  On both occasions, the time since the last share accepted matched the time since a block was found on Slush's pool but not necessarily the last block.  It appears as if one of my miner's shares were no longer be credited after the pool's 'block found' event processing.

On both occasions, I stopped and restarted GUIMiner for the affected miner and share accepted activity on my pool account log resumed normally. The shares lost were not recovered.


Yup.  I reported this exact phenomenon last week (among other issues) and the general consensus among the self appointed spokespeople for the pool is "Nothing to see here, stop complaining, working as designed".  It was repeated issues, no word from Slush, and an almost hostile atmosphere from those who either don't have problems or can't be bothered to notice if they have problems that led me to move most of miners to other pools.

I will say this, having my miners spread out on different pools and participating in pools with much clearer reward systems makes my daily reward look much more reliable so far.  
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May 16, 2013, 03:36:38 PM
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The bottom line, is less than 1% of the miners are having problems.  That doesn't mean there aren't problems, but chances are it's not with the pool.  That doesn't mean your doing anything wrong, but it could be a bad dns entry between you and slush, or some issue between your isp and the amazon servers, or any of thousands of other weird little things that can happen on the internet.

That's why your getting the response you are.  If you report a problem, then slush checks everything on his end and finds everything is good.  Then there is nothing he can do about it.  And I now what your going to say next, slush hasn't reported back.  Well I can assure you, he has seen your posts, and if there was anything he could do about it, it would have been done already.

A=B, and B=C, therefore A=C, maybe a little simplified, but the principal is sound.

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References (bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=): 50051.20  50051.100  53668.0  53788.0  53571.0  53571.0  52212.0  50729.0  114804.0  115468  78106  69061  58572  54747
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May 16, 2013, 03:54:12 PM
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The bottom line, is less than 1% of the miners are having problems.  That doesn't mean there aren't problems, but chances are it's not with the pool.  That doesn't mean your doing anything wrong, but it could be a bad dns entry between you and slush, or some issue between your isp and the amazon servers, or any of thousands of other weird little things that can happen on the internet.

That's why your getting the response you are.  If you report a problem, then slush checks everything on his end and finds everything is good.  Then there is nothing he can do about it.  And I now what your going to say next, slush hasn't reported back.  Well I can assure you, he has seen your posts, and if there was anything he could do about it, it would have been done already.

A=B, and B=C, therefore A=C, maybe a little simplified, but the principal is sound.

Couldn't have put it better myself.
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May 16, 2013, 03:57:47 PM
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Hiya

I have made the very first version of MineMinder available here:

http://fileshosting.co.uk/files/MineMinder_1.0.0.0.exe.7z

Not sure if I need Slush's permission to call the API but I have limited the refresh to 10 seconds minimum for now.

It's very simple, it just looks up my wallet address on loading (for ahem donations but nothing mandatory:)), then you can put your APIToken in the top and click refresh or enable the timer to refresh for you.

It requires the DotNET 2.0 framework.

Any problems and I'll try and monitor here for now.

If it's worth it (and if anyone wants it) more features to come.
Cheers

http://fileshosting.co.uk/files/MineMinder2.jpg


Hmm, the 7z is corrupted.

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May 16, 2013, 04:00:17 PM
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The bottom line, is less than 1% of the miners are having problems.  That doesn't mean there aren't problems, but chances are it's not with the pool.  That doesn't mean your doing anything wrong, but it could be a bad dns entry between you and slush, or some issue between your isp and the amazon servers, or any of thousands of other weird little things that can happen on the internet.

That's why your getting the response you are.  If you report a problem, then slush checks everything on his end and finds everything is good.  Then there is nothing he can do about it.  And I now what your going to say next, slush hasn't reported back.  Well I can assure you, he has seen your posts, and if there was anything he could do about it, it would have been done already.

A=B, and B=C, therefore A=C, maybe a little simplified, but the principal is sound.
I bet you 1BTC that he didn't read them... And how did you figure out 1%? do you have access to the pool? And seeing pool accepting shares and then not recording them is a pool problem for sure. Also recording them to the wrong worker is a pool problem. Seeing one worker connecting and other not with same configuration is a pool problem...
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May 16, 2013, 04:05:44 PM
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What I have seen is that my miners report normal activity with no connection problems and yet one of the miners has no accepted shares reported on my account log on Slush's pool. The first occasion showed over six hours since the last share had been accepted; the second occasion showed over nine minutes without a share accepted.  On both occasions, the time since the last share accepted matched the time since a block was found on Slush's pool but not necessarily the last block.  It appears as if one of my miner's shares were no longer be credited after the pool's 'block found' event processing.

On both occasions, I stopped and restarted GUIMiner for the affected miner and share accepted activity on my pool account log resumed normally. The shares lost were not recovered.


Yup.  I reported this exact phenomenon last week (among other issues) and the general consensus among the self appointed spokespeople for the pool is "Nothing to see here, stop complaining, working as designed".  It was repeated issues, no word from Slush, and an almost hostile atmosphere from those who either don't have problems or can't be bothered to notice if they have problems that led me to move most of miners to other pools.

I will say this, having my miners spread out on different pools and participating in pools with much clearer reward systems makes my daily reward look much more reliable so far.  
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May 16, 2013, 04:09:32 PM
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Please don't quote this Lucko guy - he's clearly an idiot - if we all ignore him he may go away - he keeps promising to leave - fingers crossed he will...

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May 16, 2013, 04:11:13 PM
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Hmm, the 7z is corrupted.

Just updating, hang on

edit: Just checked and the 7z isn't corrupt.
However new version is here:
http://fileshosting.co.uk/files/mineminder.zip

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May 16, 2013, 04:14:47 PM
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Hi all

I have added a couple of new features.
First ... the previous refresh worker data is now shown in brackets after the current data ... this is useful for checking back on and also ensuring that you are submitting shares on each worker.

Secondly I have also totaled the worker data in a row at the bottom.

I have now put the download in a zip.

Version 1.0.0.1 is here:

http://fileshosting.co.uk/files/mineminder.zip

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May 16, 2013, 04:14:58 PM
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Is 0.00000058 BTC for 840 shares right? Seems very low to me.
On what block was that? What was the number. I asked you to look that on a statistic page.
It was Block 18056.
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