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Author Topic: [2.5+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); World's First Mining Pool  (Read 4327332 times)
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May 16, 2013, 04:23:09 PM
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Please don't quote this Lucko guy - he's clearly an idiot - if we all ignore him he may go away - he keeps promising to leave - fingers crossed he will...
Can you quote me saying that  Grin ? You can't because I didn't. All I say was that I chanced pool priority and now I'm waiting to see if the pool will get fixed. And don't forget about 50 other idiots that did have same problems as I did not talking about probably 100s others who didn't figure it out jet... It must be idiot feast somewhere...
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May 16, 2013, 04:26:54 PM
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Is 0.00000058 BTC for 840 shares right? Seems very low to me.
On what block was that? What was the number. I asked you to look that on a statistic page.
It was Block 18056.

This is my log for that round mining at 500MH/s

18056 2013-05-16 14:06:52 2:56:21 23425869 1012 0.00118289
Yours looks more reasonable. I am also mining with 500MH.
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May 16, 2013, 04:27:41 PM
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Is 0.00000058 BTC for 840 shares right? Seems very low to me.
On what block was that? What was the number. I asked you to look that on a statistic page.
It was Block 18056.
OK it is 3 hours block and if you were mining only 2 hours and unlucky enough to start at the start it is normal.
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May 16, 2013, 04:37:55 PM
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Is 0.00000058 BTC for 840 shares right? Seems very low to me.
On what block was that? What was the number. I asked you to look that on a statistic page.
It was Block 18056.

This is my log for that round mining at 500MH/s

18056 2013-05-16 14:06:52 2:56:21 23425869 1012 0.00118289
Yours looks more reasonable. I am also mining with 500MH.
Yes but you have only 840 he has 1012. So if you would mine whole block you would get the same and you didn't. From what I can see you did only 2 hours 30 minutes...
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May 16, 2013, 04:42:37 PM
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Is 0.00000058 BTC for 840 shares right? Seems very low to me.
On what block was that? What was the number. I asked you to look that on a statistic page.
It was Block 18056.

This is my log for that round mining at 500MH/s

18056 2013-05-16 14:06:52 2:56:21 23425869 1012 0.00118289
Yours looks more reasonable. I am also mining with 500MH.
Yes but you have only 840 he has 1012. So if you would mine whole block you would get the same and you didn't. From what I can see you did only 2 hours 30 minutes...
What do you mean whole block? You mean from start to finish?
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May 16, 2013, 05:04:50 PM
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What do you mean whole block? You mean from start to finish?
Yes. If you start at the start and stop before the end you get much less then when you start in a middle and stop at the end. It was covered in a topic a lot of times.
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May 16, 2013, 05:45:28 PM
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Problem being Slush pool not PPS it using Double Geometric Method (DGM) with constants set by fast decay and not having block carry across.  Math penalizes for not mining entire block, even few minutes not mining near end of block can erase whole reward.  Sorry to say but Slush pool not very good for miners who only mine few little times during day.  Better mining for part time on PPS pool kind maybe 50BTC but not so much BTC per share.  Good night.  Thank you.

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May 16, 2013, 05:57:39 PM
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Problem being Slush pool not PPS it using Double Geometric Method (DGM) with constants set by fast decay and not having block carry across.  Math penalizes for not mining entire block, even few minutes not mining near end of block can erase whole reward.  Sorry to say but Slush pool not very good for miners who only mine few little times during day.  Better mining for part time on PPS pool kind maybe 50BTC but not so much BTC per share.  Good night.  Thank you.
Two things
1. Slush doesn't use DGM it uses Slush method
2. Even part time miner can use this. It is numbers game. He might start at the end of a block and get much more or start at start and get less. It all evens out at the end and you get the same-fee. And fee is higher at PPS.
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May 16, 2013, 06:27:18 PM
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Problem being Slush pool not PPS it using Double Geometric Method (DGM) with constants set by fast decay and not having block carry across.  Math penalizes for not mining entire block, even few minutes not mining near end of block can erase whole reward.  Sorry to say but Slush pool not very good for miners who only mine few little times during day.  Better mining for part time on PPS pool kind maybe 50BTC but not so much BTC per share.  Good night.  Thank you.
Two things
1. Slush doesn't use DGM it uses Slush method
2. Even part time miner can use this. It is numbers game. He might start at the end of a block and get much more or start at start and get less. It all evens out at the end and you get the same-fee. And fee is higher at PPS.

OK I usually being wrong.  My friend speaking english gone with past discussing of method.   But reading Cosurgi and Raulo talking with Slush making it easy to confusing due to similar math implemented.

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May 16, 2013, 06:59:19 PM
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Hi why is this block showing as invalid? I have not received any reward from this block...  Angry

18050    2013-05-16 00:59:30    0:25:24    3347302    8696    0.07037942    236382    25.49110000    invalid
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May 16, 2013, 07:11:08 PM
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Hi why is this block showing as invalid? I have not received any reward from this block...  Angry

18050    2013-05-16 00:59:30    0:25:24    3347302    8696    0.07037942    236382    25.49110000    invalid

Invalid blocks appear because finding blocks is kind of a race and someone else found and registered this block, probably seconds, before we did. It is an orphan block.
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May 16, 2013, 07:12:51 PM
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Hi why is this block showing as invalid? I have not received any reward from this block...  Angry

18050    2013-05-16 00:59:30    0:25:24    3347302    8696    0.07037942    236382    25.49110000    invalid

This doesn't have noting to to with you. All miners of the world are looking for blocks and sometimes it happens that someone finds a block just seconds before Slush pool and pool didn't detect that and send new data to pool miners to start searching for a new block. And pool finds a block in this time and send it to network and it gets rejected by network. This can be do to relay bed luck or pool core have bad connection to other nodes. Since this is a 4 or 5 invalid block in last 15 days and me being an idiot(read back to understand this one) I will not say that this is relay bad statistic. I will only tell you that you need to be the judge of that.
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May 16, 2013, 07:20:51 PM
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Ahh that sucks  Sad

Thanks for the fast response guys hopefully we will get there 1st next time  Cool
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May 16, 2013, 08:06:08 PM
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Hi all

I have added a couple of new features.
First ... the previous refresh worker data is now shown in brackets after the current data ... this is useful for checking back on and also ensuring that you are submitting shares on each worker.

Secondly I have also totaled the worker data in a row at the bottom.

I have now put the download in a zip.

Version 1.0.0.1 is here:

http://fileshosting.co.uk/files/mineminder.zip

Cheers

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Thanks for the quick update. Will be great if you can add my share contribution for each ended round as part of the table at the bottom.

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May 16, 2013, 08:39:22 PM
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Hi all

I have added a couple of new features.
First ... the previous refresh worker data is now shown in brackets after the current data ... this is useful for checking back on and also ensuring that you are submitting shares on each worker.

Secondly I have also totaled the worker data in a row at the bottom.

I have now put the download in a zip.

Version 1.0.0.1 is here:

http://fileshosting.co.uk/files/mineminder.zip

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Thanks for the quick update. Will be great if you can add my share contribution for each ended round as part of the table at the bottom.

Unfortunately, submitted shares per round don't come out of the API feed from Slush, maybe it can be implemented?!
In the meantime one thing I was thinking of doing was detecting when a new block was found and saving the previous total shares score. It would be accurate down to (Block Discovered Time - Last Refresh Time) so would miss a few shares.
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May 16, 2013, 08:42:26 PM
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whats going on with the pool. why is it pausing on confirmations and not finding new blocks?

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May 16, 2013, 09:18:01 PM
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In the meantime one thing I was thinking of doing was detecting when a new block was found and saving the previous total shares score. It would be accurate down to (Block Discovered Time - Last Refresh Time) so would miss a few shares.

I have a ticker running on http://blockchain.info/latestblock which pings me when a new block is found - not perfect but good enough for what you need maybe...

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May 16, 2013, 09:23:12 PM
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whats going on with the pool. why is it pausing on confirmations and not finding new blocks?

Conformations are not paused. They are moving normally. Not finding blocks. Luck is down...
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May 16, 2013, 09:28:00 PM
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In the meantime one thing I was thinking of doing was detecting when a new block was found and saving the previous total shares score. It would be accurate down to (Block Discovered Time - Last Refresh Time) so would miss a few shares.

I have a ticker running on http://blockchain.info/latestblock which pings me when a new block is found - not perfect but good enough for what you need maybe...

Cheers for the input, but I'd know when a new block was detected by reading the blocks feed.
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May 16, 2013, 09:32:21 PM
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whats going on with the pool. why is it pausing on confirmations and not finding new blocks?


Confirmations seem fine to me.

You gotta take the rough with the smooth, no one was moaning last night (plenty of squabling though lol Grin )

18048   2013-05-15 23:00:36   0:00:22   43608   7   0.00396016   none   236367   25.00000000    confirmed
18047   2013-05-15 23:00:07   0:01:27   165492   30   0.00434060   none   236366   25.14505001    confirmed

22 sec and 1min 27 sec straight after each other -  you have to accept the odd 6 or 8 hour drudge too

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