macsheadroom
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July 24, 2013, 06:39:39 PM |
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Ah, I see said the blind man.
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1FQkmrwQ7yf9MKGLsAUhY2jgMT8WjepwL7
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"In a nutshell, the network works like a distributed
timestamp server, stamping the first transaction to spend a coin. It
takes advantage of the nature of information being easy to spread but
hard to stifle." -- Satoshi
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CheezWiz
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July 24, 2013, 10:27:46 PM |
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Does this look right? 19256 2013-07-23 14:49:27 4:07:06 81656872 3142 0.00000000
No cut for over 3K shares...
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haveagr8day
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July 25, 2013, 06:40:21 AM |
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Does this look right? 19256 2013-07-23 14:49:27 4:07:06 81656872 3142 0.00000000
No cut for over 3K shares...
Were you mining for the whole round?
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el_rlee
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July 25, 2013, 12:44:48 PM |
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Is something wrong with the pool luck calculation?
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cosurgi
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July 25, 2013, 02:28:28 PM |
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Is something wrong with the pool luck calculation?
According to http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/old_calculator.php average round time at 24.775889 Thash/s and difficulty 31256960 should be 1 hour 30 minutes. See for yourself what is our current average round time. Luck is calculated correctly. We are just plain crazy lucky these days.
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Synethstesia
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July 25, 2013, 02:45:43 PM |
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25000 GH/s!
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micalith
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July 25, 2013, 02:59:58 PM |
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Ever since an all-night wifi outage, I'm getting frequently underpaid. When calculating the expected btc before my wifi outage, I was getting consistently more than expected. I guess this is a nice example of how the slush points work.
my btc my expected btc 19289 2013-07-25 14:25:20 3:10:10 65087874 8914 0.00267229 25*8914/ 65087874 = 0.0034 19288 2013-07-25 11:15:10 1:06:44 22496665 3072 0.00314420 25*3072/ 22496665 = 0.0034 19287 2013-07-25 10:08:26 0:05:58 2027467 308 0.00380032 25*308/ 2027467 = 0.0038 19286 2013-07-25 10:02:28 0:01:30 497916 70 0.00342332 25*70 /497916 = 0.0035 19285 2013-07-25 10:00:58 2:29:49 50785547 4448 0.00315257 25*4448/50785547 = 0.0022
(The last one is higher than expected as I switched on my miners half way through that round)
My question is, how long does it take to get back on to better than expected btc? Cheers
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Trongersoll
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July 25, 2013, 04:10:13 PM |
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Ever since an all-night wifi outage, I'm getting frequently underpaid. When calculating the expected btc before my wifi outage, I was getting consistently more than expected. I guess this is a nice example of how the slush points work.
my btc my expected btc 19289 2013-07-25 14:25:20 3:10:10 65087874 8914 0.00267229 25*8914/ 65087874 = 0.0034 19288 2013-07-25 11:15:10 1:06:44 22496665 3072 0.00314420 25*3072/ 22496665 = 0.0034 19287 2013-07-25 10:08:26 0:05:58 2027467 308 0.00380032 25*308/ 2027467 = 0.0038 19286 2013-07-25 10:02:28 0:01:30 497916 70 0.00342332 25*70 /497916 = 0.0035 19285 2013-07-25 10:00:58 2:29:49 50785547 4448 0.00315257 25*4448/50785547 = 0.0022
(The last one is higher than expected as I switched on my miners half way through that round)
My question is, how long does it take to get back on to better than expected btc? Cheers
This is also affected by increases in our Hashrate. If our hashrate goes up your return will go down. But, it should be offset by increasing the number of blocks we find. You really can't tell much looking at each individual block, your graph 7 day average is a better indicater.
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angryrob
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July 25, 2013, 04:37:31 PM |
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i just noticed that it broke thru 25 TH/s
that is the highest i've ever seen the 30-minute average for slush ^_^
gg
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bspurloc
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July 25, 2013, 04:48:34 PM |
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i just noticed that it broke thru 25 TH/s
that is the highest i've ever seen the 30-minute average for slush ^_^
gg
It is cuz I added another GPU Miner... I do that and someone adds like 200 Jalapenos!
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Trongersoll
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July 25, 2013, 05:35:12 PM |
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i just noticed that it broke thru 25 TH/s
that is the highest i've ever seen the 30-minute average for slush ^_^
gg
It is cuz I added another GPU Miner... I do that and someone adds like 200 Jalapenos! I feel that way everytime i add a ASICminer stick.
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micalith
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July 25, 2013, 06:02:47 PM |
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Ever since an all-night wifi outage, I'm getting frequently underpaid. When calculating the expected btc before my wifi outage, I was getting consistently more than expected. I guess this is a nice example of how the slush points work.
my btc my expected btc 19289 2013-07-25 14:25:20 3:10:10 65087874 8914 0.00267229 25*8914/ 65087874 = 0.0034 19288 2013-07-25 11:15:10 1:06:44 22496665 3072 0.00314420 25*3072/ 22496665 = 0.0034 19287 2013-07-25 10:08:26 0:05:58 2027467 308 0.00380032 25*308/ 2027467 = 0.0038 19286 2013-07-25 10:02:28 0:01:30 497916 70 0.00342332 25*70 /497916 = 0.0035 19285 2013-07-25 10:00:58 2:29:49 50785547 4448 0.00315257 25*4448/50785547 = 0.0022
(The last one is higher than expected as I switched on my miners half way through that round)
My question is, how long does it take to get back on to better than expected btc? Cheers
This is also affected by increases in our Hashrate. If our hashrate goes up your return will go down. But, it should be offset by increasing the number of blocks we find. You really can't tell much looking at each individual block, your graph 7 day average is a better indicater. OK, so you're saying it was a coincidence that this hashrate increase, at the apex of my going from >expected to <expected happened while my miners were having a nap. I wonder what the odds are. How does the hashrate relate to the shares per block being different? I can't see how that works.
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5120-01-518-6126
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July 25, 2013, 08:07:57 PM |
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This is also affected by increases in our Hashrate. If our hashrate goes up your return will go down. But, it should be offset by increasing the number of blocks we find. You really can't tell much looking at each individual block, your graph 7 day average is a better indicater.
OK, so you're saying it was a coincidence that this hashrate increase, at the apex of my going from >expected to <expected happened while my miners were having a nap. I wonder what the odds are. How does the hashrate relate to the shares per block being different? I can't see how that works. If the pool hash rate stays the same while the network hash rate increases, the pool's chance of finding a block decreases, i.e., it will take longer on average for the pool to find a block. Similarly, if the pool hash rate is increasing while the network hash rate stays the same, the pool's chance of finding a block increases, resulting in shorter round times. Now, if your hash rate stays the same while the pool's hash rate increases, your share of the pot decreases because your payout is based in part on your_shares_submitted_during_round divided by pool_shares_submitted_during_round. Your lower payout will be offset a bit if the pool has an increasing hash rate because the pool will find on average, more blocks.
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micalith
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July 25, 2013, 09:52:48 PM |
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This is also affected by increases in our Hashrate. If our hashrate goes up your return will go down. But, it should be offset by increasing the number of blocks we find. You really can't tell much looking at each individual block, your graph 7 day average is a better indicater.
OK, so you're saying it was a coincidence that this hashrate increase, at the apex of my going from >expected to <expected happened while my miners were having a nap. I wonder what the odds are. How does the hashrate relate to the shares per block being different? I can't see how that works. If the pool hash rate stays the same while the network hash rate increases, the pool's chance of finding a block decreases, i.e., it will take longer on average for the pool to find a block. Similarly, if the pool hash rate is increasing while the network hash rate stays the same, the pool's chance of finding a block increases, resulting in shorter round times. Now, if your hash rate stays the same while the pool's hash rate increases, your share of the pot decreases because your payout is based in part on your_shares_submitted_during_round divided by pool_shares_submitted_during_round. Your lower payout will be offset a bit if the pool has an increasing hash rate because the pool will find on average, more blocks. I understand that your_shares_submitted_during_round / pool_shares_submitted_during_round is what is affected by respective varying hashrates. As such, an increase in the pool's total hashrate explains why I would get a smaller proportion of the total shares for a block. I know that here is added variance to do with how close your last share in the block is to the end of the block, which would explain why the shares proportion doesn't translate perfectly to my earnt BTC as with a proportional earning pool. What I didn't get was why my earnings might have been more than expected more often than less than expected, until I stopped mining for 8 hours, then started again, with more 'balanced' expected earnings. To be sure, I plotted the numbers for before and after the outage, though not really enough points to confirm anything. I'm guessing that I was just having a lucky run before the outage. If that's right, then there's no long-term penalty for disconnecting other than the current round. Is that right?
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Trongersoll
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July 25, 2013, 11:38:37 PM |
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This is also affected by increases in our Hashrate. If our hashrate goes up your return will go down. But, it should be offset by increasing the number of blocks we find. You really can't tell much looking at each individual block, your graph 7 day average is a better indicater.
OK, so you're saying it was a coincidence that this hashrate increase, at the apex of my going from >expected to <expected happened while my miners were having a nap. I wonder what the odds are. How does the hashrate relate to the shares per block being different? I can't see how that works. If the pool hash rate stays the same while the network hash rate increases, the pool's chance of finding a block decreases, i.e., it will take longer on average for the pool to find a block. Similarly, if the pool hash rate is increasing while the network hash rate stays the same, the pool's chance of finding a block increases, resulting in shorter round times. Now, if your hash rate stays the same while the pool's hash rate increases, your share of the pot decreases because your payout is based in part on your_shares_submitted_during_round divided by pool_shares_submitted_during_round. Your lower payout will be offset a bit if the pool has an increasing hash rate because the pool will find on average, more blocks. I understand that your_shares_submitted_during_round / pool_shares_submitted_during_round is what is affected by respective varying hashrates. As such, an increase in the pool's total hashrate explains why I would get a smaller proportion of the total shares for a block. I know that here is added variance to do with how close your last share in the block is to the end of the block, which would explain why the shares proportion doesn't translate perfectly to my earnt BTC as with a proportional earning pool. What I didn't get was why my earnings might have been more than expected more often than less than expected, until I stopped mining for 8 hours, then started again, with more 'balanced' expected earnings. To be sure, I plotted the numbers for before and after the outage, though not really enough points to confirm anything. I'm guessing that I was just having a lucky run before the outage. If that's right, then there's no long-term penalty for disconnecting other than the current round. Is that right? yes, i believe that is right.
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CMMPro
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July 26, 2013, 01:51:50 AM |
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Is the pool address still having trouble?
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bspurloc
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July 26, 2013, 07:11:43 PM |
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i just noticed that it broke thru 25 TH/s
that is the highest i've ever seen the 30-minute average for slush ^_^
gg
It is cuz I added another GPU Miner... I do that and someone adds like 200 Jalapenos! I feel that way everytime i add a ASICminer stick. I was going to buy 4 ASICminer stick yesterday... but first I went to the calculator to see much my monthly BTC would increase.... then I increased the diff from 31256960 to 36256960 and noted it negated 2 ASICminer stick, so every 10 days 660mh/s gets negated... So I decided maybe I should stop chasing the diff. the Video cards I can sell at a profit, ASICminer stick will be useless soon. well to most people! people with 50+ already will love every single one tossed out heh
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Trongersoll
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July 26, 2013, 07:54:33 PM |
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i just noticed that it broke thru 25 TH/s
that is the highest i've ever seen the 30-minute average for slush ^_^
gg
It is cuz I added another GPU Miner... I do that and someone adds like 200 Jalapenos! I feel that way everytime i add a ASICminer stick. I was going to buy 4 ASICminer stick yesterday... but first I went to the calculator to see much my monthly BTC would increase.... then I increased the diff from 31256960 to 36256960 and noted it negated 2 ASICminer stick, so every 10 days 660mh/s gets negated... So I decided maybe I should stop chasing the diff. the Video cards I can sell at a profit, ASICminer stick will be useless soon. well to most people! people with 50+ already will love every single one tossed out heh or sold for cheap.
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digital
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July 26, 2013, 08:12:49 PM |
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i just noticed that it broke thru 25 TH/s
that is the highest i've ever seen the 30-minute average for slush ^_^
gg
It is cuz I added another GPU Miner... I do that and someone adds like 200 Jalapenos! I feel that way everytime i add a ASICminer stick. I was going to buy 4 ASICminer stick yesterday... but first I went to the calculator to see much my monthly BTC would increase.... then I increased the diff from 31256960 to 36256960 and noted it negated 2 ASICminer stick, so every 10 days 660mh/s gets negated... So I decided maybe I should stop chasing the diff. the Video cards I can sell at a profit, ASICminer stick will be useless soon. well to most people! people with 50+ already will love every single one tossed out heh or sold for cheap. That's what I'm waiting for. It won't be long before you can get them for $100 or less...
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If I help you out: 17QatvSdciyv2zsdAbphDEUzST1S6x46c3 References (bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=): 50051.20 50051.100 53668.0 53788.0 53571.0 53571.0 52212.0 50729.0 114804.0 115468 78106 69061 58572 54747
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Trongersoll
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July 26, 2013, 08:32:19 PM |
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i just noticed that it broke thru 25 TH/s
that is the highest i've ever seen the 30-minute average for slush ^_^
gg
It is cuz I added another GPU Miner... I do that and someone adds like 200 Jalapenos! I feel that way everytime i add a ASICminer stick. I was going to buy 4 ASICminer stick yesterday... but first I went to the calculator to see much my monthly BTC would increase.... then I increased the diff from 31256960 to 36256960 and noted it negated 2 ASICminer stick, so every 10 days 660mh/s gets negated... So I decided maybe I should stop chasing the diff. the Video cards I can sell at a profit, ASICminer stick will be useless soon. well to most people! people with 50+ already will love every single one tossed out heh or sold for cheap. That's what I'm waiting for. It won't be long before you can get them for $100 or less... you can buy them for less than $100 now on Amazon now. i was thinking more like 1-5 USD.
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