[ANN][YAC] YACoin ongoing development

[Beave162]

Perhaps it might be best to wait for this next wallet release before spreading the word and trying to market YAC on these forums, but I urge people to take 1000 YAC from me in my give-a-way offer http://forum.yacoin.org/index.php?topic=672.0.

People became really disenchanted with YACoin quickly in the turbulent beginning, but I'm sure a lot of people don't realize the truly incredible people active in the YACoin 'community' and the fulfillment of the initial premise of being asic-resistant long-term along with the great new and truly innovative features that keep on coming out. It's awesome when someone like btc-mike reaches out to this thread to add YAC back on his CPU Coins List, and I feel a lot more of that can and should happen, but people just need to be made aware. I think the memes make it a little more interesting and add a little more emphasis, and I'm hoping the 1000 YAC would entice some people even though the value right now isn't exactly stellar.

BTW I wish there was a different word other than 'community'--I think the communities of coins out there are looking more and more like cults clamoring for centralization.

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[DirtyDutch]

Groko's been doing some work on the POS miner through the YACoin client.  Looks like he found a world around to some of the long-term concerns.  I thought I would share the link here to increase awareness.  I believe he recently made a pull request to have this items added to the sourcecode.

http://yacointalk.grokonet.com/t/pos-mining-performance-boost/67

More excellent additions by Groko! Well need some community consensus on this, so everyone that can, please provide your opinion.

Still looking for an opinion for some of the bigger holders and old timers in the community.  YAC doesn't mix very well with dictator

Correction.. Its not dictator, its leader...

[alenevaa]

Groko's been doing some work on the POS miner through the YACoin client.  Looks like he found a world around to some of the long-term concerns.  I thought I would share the link here to increase awareness.  I believe he recently made a pull request to have this items added to the sourcecode.

http://yacointalk.grokonet.com/t/pos-mining-performance-boost/67

More excellent additions by Groko! Well need some community consensus on this, so everyone that can, please provide your opinion.

I was asking this feature long ago! So I'm for it.

Can we set an option in wallet under advanced settings? You set the manual "nSplitThreshold" for splitting.
By default it can be as Groko have choosen for nCombineThreshold

Code:

int64 nCombineThreshold = GetProofOfWorkReward(GetLastBlockIndex(pindexBest, false)->nBits) * 10 ;

So we will have two rules for not splitting the output of PoS block:
1) if age more than 90 days (as it was hardcoded by pocopoco)
2) if output less than nSplitThreshold

This will be a good compromise for those who wants to split and for those who wants to not split! 

[aso118]

Groko's been doing some work on the POS miner through the YACoin client.  Looks like he found a world around to some of the long-term concerns.  I thought I would share the link here to increase awareness.  I believe he recently made a pull request to have this items added to the sourcecode.

http://yacointalk.grokonet.com/t/pos-mining-performance-boost/67

More excellent additions by Groko! Well need some community consensus on this, so everyone that can, please provide your opinion.

I was asking this feature long ago! So I'm for it.

Can we set an option in wallet under advanced settings? You set the manual "nSplitThreshold" for splitting.
By default it can be as Groko have choosen for nCombineThreshold

Code:

int64 nCombineThreshold = GetProofOfWorkReward(GetLastBlockIndex(pindexBest, false)->nBits) * 10 ;

So we will have two rules for not splitting the output of PoS block:
1) if age more than 90 days (as it was hardcoded by pocopoco)
2) if output less than nSplitThreshold

This will be a good compromise for those who wants to split and for those who wants to not split! 

I'd like a setting where we would be able to indicate if we want the transaction to split, or how 'large' we want the transaction to merge.

From what I understand from Groko's original post, is this is something he is using now.  So if he wanted, he could merge his transactions into 1, 5, 50 or 100 times the original block size.  This would be very appealing to me; in a cash wallet, I could set transactions to merge to about 1 block size, where in a savings wallet (on a different computer) I could set the transaction to be larger (20-100 times the block size) to cut down on how long I need to leave the wallet/computer running.

[btc-mike]

If someone would write up a quick description, I will make a new page for Scrypt-YAC and make an entry here: http://cpucoinlist.com/cryptocurrency-algorithms/

http://wiki.cryptsy.com/yac

Something specifically about Scrypt-YAC.

[bitdwarf]

I definitely would prefer no split -- but my opinion has near nil weight, percentage-wise.

[RJF]

Groko's been doing some work on the POS miner through the YACoin client.  Looks like he found a world around to some of the long-term concerns.  I thought I would share the link here to increase awareness.  I believe he recently made a pull request to have this items added to the sourcecode.

http://yacointalk.grokonet.com/t/pos-mining-performance-boost/67

More excellent additions by Groko! Well need some community consensus on this, so everyone that can, please provide your opinion.

Still looking for an opinion for some of the bigger holders and old timers in the community.  YAC doesn't mix very well with dictator

PoS doesn't secure the network now anyway, so I'd go with the more user-friendly option and that's not splitting the stake (although it's beyond me why all the people want it to be this way).

+1

[RJF]

BTW I wish there was a different word other than 'community'--I think the communities of coins out there are looking more and more like cults clamoring for centralization.

Investors...

[Beave162]

BTW I wish there was a different word other than 'community'--I think the communities of coins out there are looking more and more like cults clamoring for centralization.

Investors...

I like stakeholders, but they both connote people who are holding YACoins, which may not necessarily be the case. Perhaps 'contributors' works better. I should avoid the word 'community' altogether though I think.

50,000 YACoin Promotional Give-A-Way!

Claim your 1000 YAC if you haven't already! There are 48,000 YACoins left in the purse.

http://forum.yacoin.org/index.php?topic=672.0

[Beave162]

Groko's been doing some work on the POS miner through the YACoin client.  Looks like he found a world around to some of the long-term concerns.  I thought I would share the link here to increase awareness.  I believe he recently made a pull request to have this items added to the sourcecode.

http://yacointalk.grokonet.com/t/pos-mining-performance-boost/67

More excellent additions by Groko! Well need some community consensus on this, so everyone that can, please provide your opinion.

I was asking this feature long ago! So I'm for it.

Can we set an option in wallet under advanced settings? You set the manual "nSplitThreshold" for splitting.
By default it can be as Groko have choosen for nCombineThreshold

Code:

int64 nCombineThreshold = GetProofOfWorkReward(GetLastBlockIndex(pindexBest, false)->nBits) * 10 ;

So we will have two rules for not splitting the output of PoS block:
1) if age more than 90 days (as it was hardcoded by pocopoco)
2) if output less than nSplitThreshold

This will be a good compromise for those who wants to split and for those who wants to not split! 

I always say more choices is the key to happiness. But why would anyone want the option of having the inputs split? The original reason for it is obsolete right?

[sairon]

The original reason for it is obsolete right?

Yes, it is.

[senj]

... But why would anyone want the option of having the inputs split? The original reason for it is obsolete right?

In reply to that I couldn't agree more with the answer aso118 already gave above:

...  This would be very appealing to me; in a cash wallet, I could set transactions to merge to about 1 block size, where in a savings wallet (on a different computer) I could set the transaction to be larger (20-100 times the block size) to cut down on how long I need to leave the wallet/computer running.

I also think this might come handy in the future: Imagine users setting this parameter and for example an average of last 6 months of this values (derived from PoS blocks) would determine some more global aspect of yacoin network operation. There are other usages and I will write about them some other time.
In any case I believe it is of significant importance to have this dynamic.

[aso118]

... But why would anyone want the option of having the inputs split? The original reason for it is obsolete right?

In reply to that I couldn't agree more with the answer aso118 already gave above:

...  This would be very appealing to me; in a cash wallet, I could set transactions to merge to about 1 block size, where in a savings wallet (on a different computer) I could set the transaction to be larger (20-100 times the block size) to cut down on how long I need to leave the wallet/computer running.

I also think this might come handy in the future: Imagine users setting this parameter and for example an average of last 6 months of this values (derived from PoS blocks) would determine some more global aspect of yacoin network operation. There are other usages and I will write about them some other time.
In any case I believe it is of significant importance to have this dynamic.

How hard would it be to implement something like this?  And would there be any downside in security/transaction size/etc?

[alenevaa]

Guys, we need some jokes for adding YAC to Hivewallet

Get involved!

[Beave162]

YAChoarder is giving away 40,000 YAC and 20,000 YAC for ONE PICTURE. That is over $100 USD worth of YACoin (ONE PICTURE) even at these depressed prices! Crazy!

http://forum.yacoin.org/index.php?topic=680.0

I think that was worth announcing on this thread

And I STILL have 48,000 YACoins I'm itching to giveaway: http://forum.yacoin.org/index.php?topic=672.0

Another big bounty is the 100,000 YACoins for the multipool. You have to read the thread because the idea is MUCH more than yet another multipool: http://forum.yacoin.org/index.php?topic=639.0

[aso118]

Groko's been doing some work on the POS miner through the YACoin client.  Looks like he found a world around to some of the long-term concerns.  I thought I would share the link here to increase awareness.  I believe he recently made a pull request to have this items added to the sourcecode.

http://yacointalk.grokonet.com/t/pos-mining-performance-boost/67

More excellent additions by Groko! Well need some community consensus on this, so everyone that can, please provide your opinion.
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Does anyone object to this update?  Should we put together a poll to formalize it?

[Joe_Bauers]

I don't belive a poll is needed. I should have some time over the next day or so to merge to testing and build the windows client.

[aso118]

Awesome!   I can help test the windows client if you need a hand. 

[Joe_Bauers]

New testing build with Groko's changes are up!  Test it out and let me know of any issues.

https://github.com/yacoin/yacoin/releases/tag/testing_0.4.4-B

[obermensch]

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Hope this will boost some life into Yac again