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July 03, 2017, 03:06:11 PM
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Is it scam or dead coin? show up few days as active to upgrade the coin value. But now all are gone. May be they come to took their profit and after that they gone. 
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July 03, 2017, 04:43:33 PM
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Is it scam or dead coin? show up few days as active to upgrade the coin value. But now all are gone. May be they come to took their profit and after that they gone. 

What on earth are you talking about? this is one of the oldest coins in crypto.

Do not trust Yobit/HitBTC/C-cex/Poloniex scam exchanges or shady ICO's run by known scam companies like HashCoins/Ambisafe/Bountyhive etc - they WILL scam you:
https://translate.google.com/translate?u=https://bitnovosti.com/2017/06/28/stop-this-for-bitcoins-sake/
Use due diligence & do research. Buy the coins, sell the coins - don't invest in stupid shit. If your questions aren't answered - don't touch it.
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July 03, 2017, 06:51:27 PM
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Is it scam or dead coin? show up few days as active to upgrade the coin value. But now all are gone. May be they come to took their profit and after that they gone. 

What on earth are you talking about? this is one of the oldest coins in crypto.


All the newbies these days seem to need to find something to call a "scam". Must be a right of passage or something. Gone are the days of research....


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July 03, 2017, 07:23:21 PM
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Is it scam or dead coin? show up few days as active to upgrade the coin value. But now all are gone. May be they come to took their profit and after that they gone. 

What on earth are you talking about? this is one of the oldest coins in crypto.


All the newbies these days seem to need to find something to call a "scam". Must be a right of passage or something. Gone are the days of research....



That person is new and supposedly has a lot of different crapcoins based on their posts. They're just trying to boost their post count so they can account farm/sell BCT accounts.


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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July 03, 2017, 07:24:02 PM
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Is it scam or dead coin? show up few days as active to upgrade the coin value. But now all are gone. May be they come to took their profit and after that they gone. 

What on earth are you talking about? this is one of the oldest coins in crypto.


All the newbies these days seem to need to find something to call a "scam". Must be a right of passage or something. Gone are the days of research....



I completely agree. It's rare that a noob will even read a page, let alone a thread. it's because they don't research that there are so many scams on BCT.

Do not trust Yobit/HitBTC/C-cex/Poloniex scam exchanges or shady ICO's run by known scam companies like HashCoins/Ambisafe/Bountyhive etc - they WILL scam you:
https://translate.google.com/translate?u=https://bitnovosti.com/2017/06/28/stop-this-for-bitcoins-sake/
Use due diligence & do research. Buy the coins, sell the coins - don't invest in stupid shit. If your questions aren't answered - don't touch it.
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July 04, 2017, 02:28:46 AM
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Is it scam or dead coin? show up few days as active to upgrade the coin value. But now all are gone. May be they come to took their profit and after that they gone. 

What on earth are you talking about? this is one of the oldest coins in crypto.


All the newbies these days seem to need to find something to call a "scam". Must be a right of passage or something. Gone are the days of research....



I completely agree. It's rare that a noob will even read a page, let alone a thread. it's because they don't research that there are so many scams on BCT.
I know , this coin is the one of oldest coins. But have no price movement. Have no active dev to improve the price. have only one exchanging market. and that is https://www.coingather.com/exchange/DVC/BTC . How can I believe , this coin still alive?
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July 04, 2017, 01:10:31 PM
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I have a few million coins in bter, but looks like it is deprecated since long. I cannot just manage to find them anywhere... just cancelled an DVC/LTC order with 1.5M coins, but now gone somewhere

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July 04, 2017, 06:45:59 PM
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Is it scam or dead coin? show up few days as active to upgrade the coin value. But now all are gone. May be they come to took their profit and after that they gone. 

What on earth are you talking about? this is one of the oldest coins in crypto.


All the newbies these days seem to need to find something to call a "scam". Must be a right of passage or something. Gone are the days of research....



I completely agree. It's rare that a noob will even read a page, let alone a thread. it's because they don't research that there are so many scams on BCT.
I know , this coin is the one of oldest coins. But have no price movement. Have no active dev to improve the price. have only one exchanging market. and that is https://www.coingather.com/exchange/DVC/BTC . How can I believe , this coin still alive?


Some things get better with age. As long as there is an active blockchain, the coin is alive and, can be traded as long as one exchange hosts a wallet. Lots of projects have come back from the edge in the present market, no reason this one can't.


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July 04, 2017, 09:44:42 PM
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As a silent holder, just wanted to thank the devs for their efforts. Back in the day I've also been writing Devtome posts and whatnot and always liked the devcoin idea. Even if it is quite around DVC now, maybe it will ressurect at some point.
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July 06, 2017, 05:14:57 PM
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As a silent holder, just wanted to thank the devs for their efforts. Back in the day I've also been writing Devtome posts and whatnot and always liked the devcoin idea. Even if it is quite around DVC now, maybe it will ressurect at some point.

@R-J-F @niceli, I do appreciate your feedback a lot! It only encourages us to keep working hard Smiley This time we really want to make it better. Please stay tuned and don't worry about the price fluctuations, we are still on baby steps, things will improve as we make progress!

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July 09, 2017, 02:25:40 AM
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As a silent holder, just wanted to thank the devs for their efforts. Back in the day I've also been writing Devtome posts and whatnot and always liked the devcoin idea. Even if it is quite around DVC now, maybe it will ressurect at some point.

@R-J-F @niceli, I do appreciate your feedback a lot! It only encourages us to keep working hard Smiley This time we really want to make it better. Please stay tuned and don't worry about the price fluctuations, we are still on baby steps, things will improve as we make progress!

are you working on devcoin fulltime or partime? if not do you know what happen to the original founder or any dev is currently working on it? im interested in buying some bc i like its long history and its potential. maybe we can start with community support and create discord or slack. thanks.
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July 13, 2017, 05:57:38 AM
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As a silent holder, just wanted to thank the devs for their efforts. Back in the day I've also been writing Devtome posts and whatnot and always liked the devcoin idea. Even if it is quite around DVC now, maybe it will ressurect at some point.

@R-J-F @niceli, I do appreciate your feedback a lot! It only encourages us to keep working hard Smiley This time we really want to make it better. Please stay tuned and don't worry about the price fluctuations, we are still on baby steps, things will improve as we make progress!

are you working on devcoin fulltime or partime? if not do you know what happen to the original founder or any dev is currently working on it? im interested in buying some bc i like its long history and its potential. maybe we can start with community support and create discord or slack. thanks.

Kind of part-time. The original founder still collaborates a little with the maintenance of current Devcoin blockchain. He has not shown any interest on changing how Devcoin works AFAIK. I'm running a plan to rebird Devcoin, all investors are welcome!

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July 14, 2017, 07:12:27 PM
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DISCUSSION ON THE FUTURE OF DEVCOIN

First of all, thanks everyone for your patience! I had to take a time to discuss internally with the people that expressed support to my initiative of hardforking Devcoin. I waited a reasonable amount of time for their answers. Now is time to make the discussion public.

Yes! I'm planning to hardfork Devcoin! this is the actual plan:

1. Define a new Rewards Distribution System (RDS) for new generated Devcoins (a new policy for the receiver_xx.csv files)
2. Define a new Inflation Rate Strategy (IRS O_o!), no more wild generation of Devcoins!
3. Implement RDS & IRS in tesnet
4. Hardfork Devcoin

I know Devcoin has many downsides, but we have some strengths: Many people is holding Devcoin! We are not starting from scratch. There is still an exchange site supporting this project and an strong force of miners giving live to Devcoin's blockchain.

Everyone interested on the future of Devcoin, please share your insights on RDS & IRS. We need a fair system that ensures we are rewarding people that are actually serving the purpose of Devcoin, along with managing the inflation rate in a way that promotes Devcoin's ecosystem.

I look forward to your feedback Devcoiners!

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July 14, 2017, 07:22:00 PM
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DISCUSSION ON THE FUTURE OF DEVCOIN

First of all, thanks everyone for your patience! I had to take a time to discuss internally with the people that expressed support to my initiative of hardforking Devcoin. I waited a reasonable amount of time for their answers. Now is time to make the discussion public.

Yes! I'm planning to hardfork Devcoin! this is the actual plan:

1. Define a new Rewards Distribution System (RDS) for new generated Devcoins (a new policy for the receiver_xx.csv files)
2. Define a new Inflation Rate Strategy (IRS O_o!), no more wild generation of Devcoins!
3. Implement RDS & IRS in tesnet
4. Hardfork Devcoin

I know Devcoin has many downsides, but we have some strengths: Many people is holding Devcoin! We are not starting from scratch. There is still an exchange site supporting this project and an strong force of miners giving live to Devcoin's blockchain.

Everyone interested on the future of Devcoin, please share your insights on RDS & IRS. We need a fair system that ensures we are rewarding people that are actually serving the purpose of Devcoin, along with managing the inflation rate in a way that promotes Devcoin's ecosystem.

I look forward to your feedback Devcoiners!

FWIW, I'm still around and do read the PMs. I haven't chimed in on your previous ones because I don't feel like I know enough to really give solid input on its direction. This is an unprecedented area for me (reviving a project like this) and don't really want any mishaps to be due to my ignorance when pushing ideas that may get passed.

As a result, I'm fairly open to what you guys feel is best.


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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July 17, 2017, 01:55:43 PM
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I am a sign up administrator and contributing writer to devtome.  I support whatever the general consensus from the community is for what is best for the health of DVC.  I am definitely not tech savvy, but I am still available to assist with any aspects of DVC in regards to writing, writers, etc.
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July 18, 2017, 09:39:07 PM
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DISCUSSION ON THE FUTURE OF DEVCOIN

First of all, thanks everyone for your patience! I had to take a time to discuss internally with the people that expressed support to my initiative of hardforking Devcoin. I waited a reasonable amount of time for their answers. Now is time to make the discussion public.

Yes! I'm planning to hardfork Devcoin! this is the actual plan:

1. Define a new Rewards Distribution System (RDS) for new generated Devcoins (a new policy for the receiver_xx.csv files)
2. Define a new Inflation Rate Strategy (IRS O_o!), no more wild generation of Devcoins!
3. Implement RDS & IRS in tesnet
4. Hardfork Devcoin

I know Devcoin has many downsides, but we have some strengths: Many people is holding Devcoin! We are not starting from scratch. There is still an exchange site supporting this project and an strong force of miners giving live to Devcoin's blockchain.

Everyone interested on the future of Devcoin, please share your insights on RDS & IRS. We need a fair system that ensures we are rewarding people that are actually serving the purpose of Devcoin, along with managing the inflation rate in a way that promotes Devcoin's ecosystem.

I look forward to your feedback Devcoiners!

when is the hardfork?
i can still leave my dvc in CoinGather after hardfork right?
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July 19, 2017, 07:58:53 AM
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DISCUSSION ON THE FUTURE OF DEVCOIN
...We are not starting from scratch.
...need a fair system that ensures we are rewarding people that are actually serving the purpose of Devcoin...
As Sidhujag noted, if you plan to fundamentally modify generation and distribution then need to start anew. ~14bn existing supply so perception & economics of a change won't fly otherwise:

1) Would look dodgy.

2) Wouldn't make sense to expect fundamental change. Already constant generation = falling rate of supply growth as a percentage of total per period. Simply adjusting that lower means very little at this point (relatively tiny numerator/relatively huge denominator).

3) If you do it anyway and maintain current framework, need to recognise that price is basically pegged to an implied monetary measure of work via distribution. This is primarily a quality/community/enthusiasm/acceptance problem, not a technical problem.

i.e. DVC/BTC currently = Implied $ value of a share/(DVC per share/(BTC/USD)). Getting DVC/BTC higher requires increasing $ value of a share and/or lowering DVC per share.

4) If you do it anyway and maintain a [different] generation/distribution framework you need to seriously consider how you'll overcome (3) and how legacy supply and perception will feed into mechanics and assumptions about the future.

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July 19, 2017, 04:38:16 PM
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DeVCoin is fine the way it is, what needs working on is the shares allocation.

The Devtome wiki was a nice idea, and actually it probably is still a nice idea, but it has not been making money yet has still been getting the lion's share of the generated coins, which has served to massively reduce the amount of devcoins people actually developing software have been getting and the amount of coins paying for hosting for our stable nodes.

So if we have not done so already we should limit how much goes to devtome by dividing only some specific fraction of all the coins among the shares that are about the devtome.

Since so far we have only two categories really, one being devtome the other being everything else, we should probably separate the shares into devtome shares and other shares and assign half the generated coins to devtome shares the other half to everything else.

That should make at least a start toward correcting the huge problem that devtome has turned out to be, and might help get more attention put into software development.

Personally I would like to see three categories reallky, one being devtome, one being the Galactic Milieu, the third being everything else.

That is partly because flooding the markets with devcoins via devtome has constantly undermined the Galactic Milieu's attempts to support the markets, to the point where eventually all the devcoins-versus-bitcoins markets have vanished, leaving us only paired now against litecoin which is a coin most of the Galactic Milieu never wanted to touch. Folks are reluctant to invest in litecoin vs devcoin markets for fear of getting stuck with litecoins.

Also, having a constant supply of DeVCoins coming into the Milieu will greatly help ensure that players actively harvesting resources in the various aspects of the game can always reasonably expect to be able to trade resources for coins, as we can have a budget within the game enabling non-player-character companies nations etc to purchase resources.

I remind you all again of the conversion rates files stored at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html

ALSO: It has come to my attention that to compile devcoin, and other coins that old, against Boost 1.58 instead of 1,54 you need the following sed command's effect:

Code:
sed -i 's/<const\ CScriptID\&/<CScriptID/' rpcrawtransaction.cpp

Maybe someone can make the corresponding change in the git repo?

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July 19, 2017, 05:15:56 PM
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If anything new news about devcoin we will wait if there is such as bounty and airdrop I will be very senag about it. thaks you.

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July 21, 2017, 12:49:44 AM
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DISCUSSION ON THE FUTURE OF DEVCOIN
...We are not starting from scratch.
...need a fair system that ensures we are rewarding people that are actually serving the purpose of Devcoin...
As Sidhujag noted, if you plan to fundamentally modify generation and distribution then need to start anew. ~14bn existing supply so perception & economics of a change won't fly otherwise:

1) Would look dodgy.

2) Wouldn't make sense to expect fundamental change. Already constant generation = falling rate of supply growth as a percentage of total per period. Simply adjusting that lower means very little at this point (relatively tiny numerator/relatively huge denominator).

3) If you do it anyway and maintain current framework, need to recognise that price is basically pegged to an implied monetary measure of work via distribution. This is primarily a quality/community/enthusiasm/acceptance problem, not a technical problem.

i.e. DVC/BTC currently = Implied $ value of a share/(DVC per share/(BTC/USD)). Getting DVC/BTC higher requires increasing $ value of a share and/or lowering DVC per share.

4) If you do it anyway and maintain a [different] generation/distribution framework you need to seriously consider how you'll overcome (3) and how legacy supply and perception will feed into mechanics and assumptions about the future.

I have two ideas in mind:

1. Start anew radically, everything from scratch, kill the old DVC, people should SELL all their current DVC stock to preserve a bit of their money
2. Make a hard cut. Implement a DVC RENEWAL SERVICE (DRS) where people can "submit" their current DVC so that it gets converted into the new DVC

#2 makes more sense for me. BUT we should set a conversion rate that pumps the new DVC up. For example a relation of 10,000 to 1. For every 10 thousand OLD DVC sent to DRS, you get 1 NEW DVC back. Maybe it should be 100K or 1 million, I'm open to proposals!

Lets say that DRS is implemented. On every round the new DVC Rewards Distribution System (RDS) should pay to the following FUNDS:

1. Fund to Convert OLD DVC into NEW DVC
2. Fund for Open Source Projects and Assets (Devtome?)
3. Fund to pay the staff (core team, mirrors, nodes)
4. Fund to pay miners

Then we have to figure out the Inflation Rate Strategy (IRS), how much DVC should be generated on every round? Should it be static or variable like STEEM?

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