[Antminer S1 Sales open] Price changes daily, now 0.414 BTC for 180GH/s

[ZiG]

Yet people still advertise used S1's for BTC1.......then wonder why they don't sell

What? Where?

Everywhere...Maybe next will be Walmart...LOL

[WEB slicer]

Sent me a used antminer. Manufacturer date was 1/14. Order date was 3/14. Fan and heat fins were dirty and covered with dust. The antminer had been used from the time of production to the sale date. The heat fins were also physically damaged. Both blades were not soldered properly and were separating from the base. I have included pics in the links so you can see for yourself. I contacted Juan from 112bit and he was not helpful at all. He told me i am not the manufacturer contact bitmain. He no longer responds to my emails. If you have any problems he will brush you off and say im just a distributor i cant help you contact the manufacturer. Do not buy from 112bit or bitmain. 112bit is just a middle man and can't do anything but take your money. Bitmain is a chinese manufacturer. They have low standards for quality. They will not accept any responsibility for anything. All of the financial burden is on the buyer. They do not care about their customers. All they care about is mass production and sales. This has been an ongoing issue. I have returned the antimner and requested a refund due to the amount of mining time lost waiting for a replacement. I was told i pay return shipping and they will give me a refund when delivered. After the antminer arrived in china i was told they will not give me a full refund. I am responsible for the original shipping cost, return shipping cost, and import tax both ways. I have not been told how much of a refund i will receive but it will be around $200-300 less than what i paid. And to be perfectly honest, i have a feeling bitmain will come up with some BS excuse such as it was not returned in the original condition and they can not give me a refund or replacement.

[tzortz]

Sent me a used antminer. Manufacturer date was 1/14. Order date was 3/14. Fan and heat fins were dirty and covered with dust. The antminer had been used from the time of production to the sale date. The heat fins were also physically damaged. Both blades were not soldered properly and were separating from the base. I have included pics in the links so you can see for yourself. I contacted Juan from 112bit and he was not helpful at all. He told me i am not the manufacturer contact bitmain. He no longer responds to my emails. If you have any problems he will brush you off and say im just a distributor i cant help you contact the manufacturer. Do not buy from 112bit or bitmain. 112bit is just a middle man and can't do anything but take your money. Bitmain is a chinese manufacturer. They have low standards for quality. They will not accept any responsibility for anything. All of the financial burden is on the buyer. They do not care about their customers. All they care about is mass production and sales. This has been an ongoing issue. I have returned the antimner and requested a refund due to the amount of mining time lost waiting for a replacement. I was told i pay return shipping and they will give me a refund when delivered. After the antminer arrived in china i was told they will not give me a full refund. I am responsible for the original shipping cost, return shipping cost, and import tax both ways. I have not been told how much of a refund i will receive but it will be around $200-300 less than what i paid. And to be perfectly honest, i have a feeling bitmain will come up with some BS excuse such as it was not returned in the original condition and they can not give me a refund or replacement.

I have seen it many times.


Bitmain SUCKS!

[WEB slicer]

I have seen it many times.

Bitmain SUCKS!

wow, somebody actually agreed with me. thank you sir. i was expecting the forum to call me an asshole and defend the manufacturer. at least there is one person who knows bitmain does deliver but is not a respectable vendor.

[tzortz]

I have seen it many times.

Bitmain SUCKS!

wow, somebody actually agreed with me. thank you sir. i was expecting the forum to call me an asshole and defend the manufacturer. at least there is one person who knows bitmain does deliver but is not a respectable vendor.

We are on the same boat.

I was the first saying that Bitmain delivers used/dusty/overclocked S1s.

Bitmain treats as like idiots.

I have also bought more than 50 S1s and the support was... nothing ! No support at all.

They lost me also my coupons when there was the "supposed" sold out.

If someone buys from Bitmain now, is definitely retarded.

[WEB slicer]

your support is appreciated. i think bitmain is the new BFL. they dont care about us they just want our money. i have been banging my head against the wall for the past 3 weeks trying to resolve this. talking to them is like talking to a retarded child. the person i've been talking to is Yanhua Qin. we just keep going in circles and have made no progress towards resolving this. its not even a big sale its one fucking antminer worth less than 1 coin and they still jerk me around. i feel sorry for the people who buy S2 from them.

[tzortz]

your support is appreciated. i think bitmain is the new BFL. they dont care about us they just want our money. i have been banging my head against the wall for the past 3 weeks trying to resolve this. talking to them is like talking to a retarded child. we just keep going in circles and have made no progress towards resolving this. its not even a big sale its one fucking antminer worth less than 1 coin and they still jerk me around. i feel sorry for the people who buy S2 from them.

Most important is that their current products will never ROI.

Secondly , as you said, they do NOT care, they only want to fill up their pockets by selling us used equipment.

[WEB slicer]

sending used equipment is so fucked up. don't get me wrong, i get it. but it's still not right. BFL was doing it. avalon was doing it. now bitmain is doing it. they will all do it to us. it's such a bend over the customer racket. nowhere else would that be acceptable but they get away with it cause everybody wants to be a part of the gold rush. and to add insult to injury they only offer a 3 month warranty after they been mining with it for months.

[elasticband]

I have been saying it since January.

I have seen it many times.

Bitmain SUCKS!

wow, somebody actually agreed with me. thank you sir. i was expecting the forum to call me an asshole and defend the manufacturer. at least there is one person who knows bitmain does deliver but is not a respectable vendor.

We are on the same boat.

I was the first saying that Bitmain delivers used/dusty/overclocked S1s.

Bitmain treats as like idiots.

I have also bought more than 50 S1s and the support was... nothing ! No support at all.

They lost me also my coupons when there was the "supposed" sold out.

If someone buys from Bitmain now, is definitely retarded.

[WEB slicer]

i noticed the feedback you left elasticband. its good to see you post here and add another unhappy customer to the mix.

[cruzader]

New price for AntMiner S1: 0.831btc each one, shipping cost included.

Daily s1 going down because...no one is interested any more like it was before.
Even this price is still to high.
Simple math:

1Th/s(6x s1=1150Gh/s overclocked) cost at this time 4.986btc
customs in uk- 6x 55gbp=330 (1.14Btc)
PSU 750w x6= 96gbp (0.33Btc)
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So 1Th/s cost 6.456Btc

One s2 cost at this moment 6.57Btc + customs

A1 clone cost 2300usd which is 4.55 with psu or 4.38Btc without delivered. Ofcourse bitmain quality cannot be beaten but 1Th is 1Th dosn't matter who delivers that.

1Th/s can generate daily no more than 0.0721Btc so 1BTC will be generated at this diff every 2 weeks.
So ROI can be reached after 3-4 months, depends on diff jump.

Damn ASics are so overpriced....

since i like undervolting the s1 + lieing on customs forms it comes out at:
1TH/s (7x s1 undervolted) 5,817
customs = none (declared below limit)
PSU 1300w x1 = 30$ with shipping (server psu ebay)

5,879Btc
1170-1200watt at wall, instead of your 2500ish at overclock.

[xingqiaoyin]

Well TBH having used to dealing with customer services in china, this is the kind of CS i expected. Comparing bitmain to BFL and hashfast is not fair. BFL and Hashfadt never deliver.

[WEB slicer]

just wait, when the time is right and they made enough they will fuck us in the ass even worse than BFL.

[reactor]

just wait, when the time is right and they made enough they will fuck us in the ass even worse than BFL.

Uh, right now they're giggling their way to the bank.  They barely respond to PM's or emails, they finally stopped the bullshit of pulling S1 sales at BTC/450 and resuming them around BTC/500 and now just sell for a price meant for suckers.  They've made plenty of cash and I don't understand why anyone supports them anymore.  In the time it took to get exactly zero responses from Bitmain via pm and email I emailed over a dozen times with folks over at ZoomHash and managed to get a G-Blade shipped from Hong Kong to my door.  Still nothing from Bitmain.

They pulled a KNC - all friendly at first, gung-ho about their customers, now that they have sold a cubic shitton of this stuff they couldn't give a damn.  Just look at these bastards, when the S1 first came out the price was around $3000.  Now the price is around $425.  Same hardware.  And people have been blowing loads in their pants defending this shit operation while downplaying the countless stories of RMA problems, pre-mined hardware, damaged hardware, poor manufacturing quality, etc.  And now they're like "Oh, we have more S2!"  Even though not a single piece of their hardware will ROI even with free electricity. 

[kendog77]

sending used equipment is so fucked up. don't get me wrong, i get it. but it's still not right. BFL was doing it. avalon was doing it. now bitmain is doing it. they will all do it to us. it's such a bend over the customer racket. nowhere else would that be acceptable but they get away with it cause everybody wants to be a part of the gold rush. and to add insult to injury they only offer a 3 month warranty after they been mining with it for months.

I'm confused. Did the S1 mine at the advertised speed or not? If the S1 was used but did perform as advertised, I think it's pretty crazy to return it, pay return shipping, and lose out on mining revenue while waiting for a replacement.

[BITMAIN]

New price for AntMiner S1: 0.818 btc each one, shipping cost included.

[cevad]

My S1 didnt have any sort of price on the Customs Declaration and just had "computer game gateway" on it - although I wasnt too worried about getting slugged import duty as we have a $1000 limit before that kicks in here in Australia - kinda makes up for being so damn far away from everything lol - not sure why it doesn't have a price on it, I was expecting it to.

[WEB slicer]

I'm confused. Did the S1 mine at the advertised speed or not? If the S1 was used but did perform as advertised, I think it's pretty crazy to return it, pay return shipping, and lose out on mining revenue while waiting for a replacement.

read the post and look at the pictures. the issue was damage and poor workmanship. the fins were damaged and both blades were not welded all the way and are separating from the base.

My S1 didnt have any sort of price on the Customs Declaration and just had "computer game gateway" on it - although I wasnt too worried about getting slugged import duty as we have a $1000 limit before that kicks in here in Australia - kinda makes up for being so damn far away from everything lol - not sure why it doesn't have a price on it, I was expecting it to.

i purchase from china and other countries on ebay. i've never paid any kind of import tax. it's just a BS excuse to refund me less.

[s1lverbox]

New price for AntMiner S1: 0.818 btc each one, shipping cost included.

This is 3rd drop in price of s1 and instead of sales, isuess piling up.
Im ready to buy at .45btc price.

wake me up end of week once u will realise this price is acceptable.

bitmain i really like your way of business (miners delivered within 5 days of order), but you become another ass hole company who screwing people over just because of success.

Seem like bitmain is like "PSY-gangam style" one song success with no talent what so ever. one unit which was hit and nothing else, s2 complete joke(price, issues with sd card,issues with QC and with delivering on time). bitmain even become preorder company which is really weird after s1 success.

[xingqiaoyin]

just wait, when the time is right and they made enough they will fuck us in the ass even worse than BFL.

Maybe yes maybe no.
My point is to not make BFL look better because bitmain fucked things up recently.