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[os2sam]

Now every time luck takes a dip it's going to be an attack.  That's just great.

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[atadro]

If Eligius is withholding payment to this user (and rightfully so), will he redistribute those 200 BTC to the other members?

And what about here on BTC Guild?

I noticed luck has gone back up.  So was it really bad luck before, or was it an attack?

It was bad luck earlier this week.  But who knows, maybe yet another user is attacking (it isn't the previous withholders).  You can read above for why it's impossible to detect an attack unless it is sustained for long enough time to provide statistical anomalies for users.  But the bad luck spike we had lasted only a few days, and was caused by just a few very poor rounds.  The pattern does not fit an attack because we'd have a few normal length rounds, then one or two bad rounds, and then back to normal.  There weren't any significant speed fluctuations between those changes.

Eligius was able to hold 200 BTC hostage because Eligius does not pay out regularly.  BTC Guild pays out multiple times per hour.  Even if I froze the user's accounts, you'd get maybe a dozen, two dozen coins.  In return, you'd end up with some very pissed off people who already know how to weaponize their ASICs against a pool by simply reverting a patch.

 but we know that this group did and they are currently mining on the pool.  there is the opportunity now to force them to make it right to you and us by withholding payouts - or they GTFO.

[sconklin321]

If Eligius is withholding payment to this user (and rightfully so), will he redistribute those 200 BTC to the other members?

And what about here on BTC Guild?

I noticed luck has gone back up.  So was it really bad luck before, or was it an attack?

Wizkid stated in the Eligius thread that he plans on paying the "shelved" shares from the time period of the withholding attack with the 225 BTC that was held from being distributed.

[MoreBloodWine]

If Eligius is withholding payment to this user (and rightfully so), will he redistribute those 200 BTC to the other members?

And what about here on BTC Guild?

I noticed luck has gone back up.  So was it really bad luck before, or was it an attack?

Wizkid stated in the Eligius thread that he plans on paying the "shelved" shares from the time period of the withholding attack with the 225 BTC that was held from being distributed.

But how will be be determined who gets what ?

I've been mining BTCGuild for some time now and was quite active during the "attack".

[sconklin321]

If Eligius is withholding payment to this user (and rightfully so), will he redistribute those 200 BTC to the other members?

And what about here on BTC Guild?

I noticed luck has gone back up.  So was it really bad luck before, or was it an attack?

Wizkid stated in the Eligius thread that he plans on paying the "shelved" shares from the time period of the withholding attack with the 225 BTC that was held from being distributed.

But how will be be determined who gets what ?

I've been mining BTCGuild for some time now and was quite active during the "attack".

That's what wizkid is doing on Eligius, if you mined there, you'd get paid for the shares that were shelved during that time frame until wizkid has paid out 225 BTC worth of shares.  Obiviously that doesn't apply here as this is BTC Guild.  Not sure what, if anything, eleuthria plans or can do?  I know someone said they wouldn't call it theft, but I don't know what else you would call it.  The miner got paid for shares that were worthless because their hardware/software had an error that prevented them from submitting solved blocks.  So they got paid, but could never actually contribute since there was a bug preventing it.  Intentionally or unintentionally, it's still theft.  It's kinda like shopping and putting something on the bottom of the shopping cart, but forgetting to pay for it on the way out.  If you don't return the item or pay for it when you notice, it's still theft.

[DrG]

Roughly how much power did this user have during the time-frame?  I think in another thread it was mentioned he had 2PH/s, which at that time was about 1/20th the total network.

[navigator]

11 blocks in ~5 hrs? 

[eleuthria]

11 blocks in ~5 hrs? 

Clearly a block withholding att--err, wait a minute...block producing attack?

[Bitsaurus]

11 blocks in ~5 hrs? 

Clearly a block withholding att--err, wait a minute...block producing attack?

Thank you may I have another.  Guess it was good timing I got my extra 25TH online yesterday!  I haven't seen a run like this for almost a month I think.

[atadro]

If Eligius is withholding payment to this user (and rightfully so), will he redistribute those 200 BTC to the other members?

And what about here on BTC Guild?

I noticed luck has gone back up.  So was it really bad luck before, or was it an attack?

Wizkid stated in the Eligius thread that he plans on paying the "shelved" shares from the time period of the withholding attack with the 225 BTC that was held from being distributed.

But how will be be determined who gets what ?

I've been mining BTCGuild for some time now and was quite active during the "attack".

That's what wizkid is doing on Eligius, if you mined there, you'd get paid for the shares that were shelved during that time frame until wizkid has paid out 225 BTC worth of shares.  Obiviously that doesn't apply here as this is BTC Guild.  Not sure what, if anything, eleuthria plans or can do?  I know someone said they wouldn't call it theft, but I don't know what else you would call it.  The miner got paid for shares that were worthless because their hardware/software had an error that prevented them from submitting solved blocks.  So they got paid, but could never actually contribute since there was a bug preventing it.  Intentionally or unintentionally, it's still theft.  It's kinda like shopping and putting something on the bottom of the shopping cart, but forgetting to pay for it on the way out.  If you don't return the item or pay for it when you notice, it's still theft.

since eleuthria continues to ignore direct questions regarding this group making restitution for the their admitted 'theft', it seems he is taking the position of just letting it go plus inviting them back.  i guess there is a first time for everything - i agree with the actions of luke-jr in the case of dealing with this mining group. 

[sukamasoto]

if I can rent a rig mine with other people

[hurricandave]

All right, WHO ATE ALL the Lucky Charms and put the empty box back in the pantry!

[MoreBloodWine]

All right, WHO ATE ALL the Lucky Charms and put the empty box back in the pantry!

*Runs like hell...*

[ManeBjorn]

Could be worse.
I don't mind bad luck that is fine.  I am glad it is not block withholding anymore.
Heck with Lucky Charms it is time for Golden Grahams!!!

All right, WHO ATE ALL the Lucky Charms and put the empty box back in the pantry!

*Runs like hell...*

[MoreBloodWine]

it is time for Golden Grahams!!!

Funny thing is I got a full box downstairs lol

[hurricandave]

I'm not touchin' the box of Trix just yet!

[eleuthria]

All right, WHO ATE ALL the Lucky Charms and put the empty box back in the pantry!

The Lucky Charms box is never empty...it just doesn't have any marshmallows left.

[hurricandave]

 

[MoreBloodWine]

All right, WHO ATE ALL the Lucky Charms and put the empty box back in the pantry!

The Lucky Charms box is never empty...it just doesn't have any marshmallows left.

Oh the memories of being like 10 and doing that lol

[ManeBjorn]

LOL
I wanted some and my wife got me grape nuts. I like them but wanted Golden Grahams. 
Eat them and savor for me.

it is time for Golden Grahams!!!

Funny thing is I got a full box downstairs lol