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March 15, 2014, 04:55:12 AM
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BTC Guild added to mining pools database
Good luck, miners

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March 15, 2014, 04:56:26 AM
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Chance is kicking out butts this last week+.
Not as bad as other pools are getting killed though.


Block solves are really bad right now, so not so much in the pplns payout...

I think it will be "fix" soon

There is no "fix".  It's pure random chance.

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March 15, 2014, 05:04:13 AM
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Cool deal.
Thanks
Happy Mining.



BTC Guild added to mining pools database
Good luck, miners

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March 15, 2014, 08:10:11 AM
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may i ask, is all block created will shown on blockchain.info ?
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March 15, 2014, 01:35:46 PM
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The luck really is shit right now, switched all my miners to PPS. It sucks doubling your farm only to see the same payment. I think I'm pretty close to being done with mining, not worth the effort or stress.
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March 15, 2014, 02:49:59 PM
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The luck really is shit right now, switched all my miners to PPS. It sucks doubling your farm only to see the same payment. I think I'm pretty close to being done with mining, not worth the effort or stress.

It _should_ even out in the end, but I agree, right now it's hurting pretty bad.

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March 15, 2014, 03:24:05 PM
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may i ask, is all block created will shown on blockchain.info ?

I think all created blocks are shown.  But who it assigns as the block solver won't always be accurate.

If you haven't seen this yet, please read it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=123726.msg1329549#msg1329549

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
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March 15, 2014, 06:36:41 PM
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Well my 24hr average is on the way back up 0.0259478BTC … no idea what went wrong.

 
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March 15, 2014, 07:19:08 PM
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My 24 hour stats are stuck at .68 btc
Any one else having this stat frozen? It has been like this for 2 days.

BTW I do not mine .68 per day. more like .075. Payouts are normal and I am getting the correct amount. It is just the stat that appears incorrect and frozen.
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March 15, 2014, 07:38:33 PM
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My 24 hour stats are stuck at .68 btc
Any one else having this stat frozen? It has been like this for 2 days.

BTW I do not mine .68 per day. more like .075. Payouts are normal and I am getting the correct amount. It is just the stat that appears incorrect and frozen.

Using Internet Explorer?  Change your cache settings from "automatically" to "every visit to page".

Or use another browser.

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March 15, 2014, 07:43:03 PM
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My 24 hour stats are stuck at .68 btc
Any one else having this stat frozen? It has been like this for 2 days.

BTW I do not mine .68 per day. more like .075. Payouts are normal and I am getting the correct amount. It is just the stat that appears incorrect and frozen.

If you switched to/from PPS, your 24-hour earnings will be broken for a while.  PPS is slowly being altered out on parts of the backend to make it easier to remove later on.

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March 15, 2014, 08:07:38 PM
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Ok cool thanks for the explanation.
Cheers
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March 15, 2014, 09:21:39 PM
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Are you planning to remove PPS entirely, or just he way it reports info on the top web banner?
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March 15, 2014, 10:27:21 PM
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Are you planning to remove PPS entirely, or just he way it reports info on the top web banner?

I'm very likely to be removing PPS entirely, very soon at this rate.  I am NOT willing to continue LOSING money while running the 2nd largest Bitcoin pool.  In the long run PPS makes me a lot more money, but there are significant risks in it, specifically it requires a much larger hot wallet because bad luck doesn't mean people stop generating income, and the risk of bankruptcy.  The only time the pool has ever had significant losses (full hot wallet drained) was due to PPS and a change in behavior with Bitcoin 0.8, where I lost over 1200 BTC, all of which ended up coming out of my own pocket.  People may bitch about bad luck affecting their earnings, but it could be a lot worse:  I am actively *losing* money for the last 10 days from bad luck, and have to keep the hot wallet significantly larger than it would otherwise be by continuing to have PPS on the pool.

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March 15, 2014, 11:06:26 PM
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Are you planning to remove PPS entirely, or just he way it reports info on the top web banner?

I'm very likely to be removing PPS entirely, very soon at this rate.  I am NOT willing to continue LOSING money while running the 2nd largest Bitcoin pool.  In the long run PPS makes me a lot more money, but there are significant risks in it, specifically it requires a much larger hot wallet because bad luck doesn't mean people stop generating income, and the risk of bankruptcy.  The only time the pool has ever had significant losses (full hot wallet drained) was due to PPS and a change in behavior with Bitcoin 0.8, where I lost over 1200 BTC, all of which ended up coming out of my own pocket.  People may bitch about bad luck affecting their earnings, but it could be a lot worse:  I am actively *losing* money for the last 10 days from bad luck, and have to keep the hot wallet significantly larger than it would otherwise be by continuing to have PPS on the pool.

seems fair.... I have no problem going all PPLNS. You have run a great pool for the community.
Thanks
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March 15, 2014, 11:15:46 PM
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   It seems like there may need to be a way to discourage people with the highest hash rates from jumping back and forth in payment methods and ride out the varience/luck. Maybe limiting the per worker hash rate on PPS to something equal to a pair of S1's or blades, if you have a faster rate then you have to open another worker . If they have to divide up the power of the equipment versus leaving it alone, you may have fewer people shifting back and forth if only because its a pain in the arse to switch their local set up. I only have a couple of Ant U2's and PPS is where I stay...steady consistancy...even if it means giving up a little in  the end.  OR  a slight(very slight) break in fees to those who declare a desired payment method   PPS or PPLNS and stick with it , a sort of reward based on User account controls and not the worker setting. This might make it easier to predict how large the wallet needs to be if only from knowing how consistant your base overall hashrate may stay on PPS or PPLNS.
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March 15, 2014, 11:21:11 PM
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  It seems like there may need to be a way to discourage people with the highest hash rates from jumping back and forth in payment methods and ride out the varience/luck. Maybe limiting the per worker hash rate on PPS to something equal to a pair of S1's or blades, if you have a faster rate then you have to open another worker . If they have to divide up the power of the equipment versus leaving it alone, you may have fewer people shifting back and forth if only because its a pain in the arse to switch their local set up. I only have a couple of Ant U2's and PPS is where I stay...steady consistancy...even if it means giving up a little in  the end.  OR  a slight(very slight) break in fees to those who declare a desired payment method   PPS or PPLNS and stick with it , a sort of reward based on User account controls and not the worker setting. This might make it easier to predict how large the wallet needs to be if only from knowing how consistant your base overall hashrate may stay on PPS or PPLNS.

People were not jumping back and forth.  Large miners understood the concept of variance, it was only small time miners jumping between them (and doing so was basically gambling, there never was any way to jump between them to guarantee higher payout).  The hot wallet problem with PPS is the fact that during sustained bad luck, the hot wallet is not refilling itself with new blocks but people are continuing to earn money and require coins in the hot wallet to be paid, meaning the hot wallet had to be kept MUCH higher than under a non-PPS method where block solves are the only way to have your balance increase.

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March 15, 2014, 11:25:38 PM
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Eleuthria,

I have never run PPS so it's a non event for me but it seems insane to me to have 6,200THs and have to lose sleep over getting wiped out because of bad luck.

The luck is what it is.  I have been mining since late last year and have never solved a block so bad luck is a relative term.  If I was solo my earnings would be 0.00BTC

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March 15, 2014, 11:35:07 PM
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Sucks I just started mining a couple days ago, went with you and now I'm looking for another pool because I just can't mine without a steady pay. Hope everything works out.
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March 15, 2014, 11:39:04 PM
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Speaking of luck - is there a way to calculate the 24hr luck from info in the API?  I should probably be able to work it out but I didn't get any sleep last night.  Cry
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