Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[blatchcorn]

I really don't think that Kohli want to concentrate on tests. He is a good test player, but why should he detach himself from all the glamor and blitz of T20? Players resigning from other formats to focus on test cricket is a thing of the past. There is too much money available in franchise T20 to make that option really unattractive. On top of that, the popularity of test cricket is going down with every passing year. In the long term, if he concentrate only in test format, Kohli's market value will decrease and his revenue from various endorsements will go down.

Original format of cricket is test but with time people lost interest in test as ODI and now T20 are introduced. I don't think the future of cricket is in test but in T20 as its interesting for people due to its shorter duration and also pays good money to players. Kohli need break from cricket ASAP to gain its form.

[CryptoBuds]

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I really don't think that Kohli want to concentrate on tests. He is a good test player, but why should he detach himself from all the glamor and blitz of T20? Players resigning from other formats to focus on test cricket is a thing of the past. There is too much money available in franchise T20 to make that option really unattractive. On top of that, the popularity of test cricket is going down with every passing year. In the long term, if he concentrate only in test format, Kohli's market value will decrease and his revenue from various endorsements will go down.

Players like Kohli, Smith considered test format as true form of cricket and they would very much like to play test cricket for long.

Virat doesn't need to stop playing limited over cricket completely. All he has to do is avoid unnecessary Bilateral series, he can make himself available for the IPL and ICC tourney or may be 1-2 limited overs bilateral series, mainly Aus. His current annual income is close to $25-27 Million and that's only from the endorsement (additional 3 million from BCCI +IPL contract), yes it would go down but not that much.

^ Yes, I agree and probably the best solution is going to be taking a break from international cricket. Obviously, he is a great player, and whenever anyone watches him performing like he is doing right now even someone who doesn't understand cricket that much he's going to suggest that he should take a break.

I know that what I am going to say next is not the most popular opinion but I think for a player who is really one of the most seniors on the team I think it is better to not concentrate on the test format.

[7788bitcoin]

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^ Yes, I agree and probably the best solution is going to be taking a break from international cricket. Obviously, he is a great player, and whenever anyone watches him performing like he is doing right now even someone who doesn't understand cricket that much he's going to suggest that he should take a break.

I know that what I am going to say next is not the most popular opinion but I think for a player who is really one of the most seniors on the team I think it is better to not concentrate on the test format.

For a player like Virat Kohli all he needs is a single innings that could change his confidence but taking a break will not help him. People are judging with the standards with which he performed throughout the years and when he is struggling everyone is having an opinion as if he is taking the opportunity of a player who could perform much better than him. Let him play and i am sure he will change his technique and will be back in form.

[S A KHAIR]

With current form and having criticism he needs some break which could be very helpful for him and his future because age factor is still with Kohli and if he wants to stay for some long time then surely a break can help him in this case.
It's never new for any player because we have a history of bad patches like these and mostly players with having break come back very strongly, so he is also can do this. Now with Shastri is also looking for something like this; hopefully he will take some good decision for his future and fight back with very strong performance, or he can take retirement from one or two formats and just keep playing test matches which is also very good for him and his career because he is still good player for this format.

I really don't think that Kohli want to concentrate on tests. He is a good test player, but why should he detach himself from all the glamor and blitz of T20? Players resigning from other formats to focus on test cricket is a thing of the past. There is too much money available in franchise T20 to make that option really unattractive. On top of that, the popularity of test cricket is going down with every passing year. In the long term, if he concentrate only in test format, Kohli's market value will decrease and his revenue from various endorsements will go down.

I think it's better if he does not concentrate on test cricket right now and concentrates more on the shorter formats of cricket because he is into the later stages of his career. At this moment a break will do a lot of good for him because if he goes away and the Indian team starts performing bad, I think eventually he will be needed in the team and at that time I am quite sure that he will be able to perform a lot better with a positive state of mind.

[jaberwock]

Original format of cricket is test but with time people lost interest in test as ODI and now T20 are introduced. I don't think the future of cricket is in test but in T20 as its interesting for people due to its shorter duration and also pays good money to players. Kohli need break from cricket ASAP to gain its form.

With this all test cricket is not going anywhere even this format is having not good potential for development but still it's going to in progress with these very few teams, and we can have some good number of countries in T20 format as ICC is also increasing number of teams in this format's mega event World Cup which is good.

Test cricket is having not good chances of any better development or any other way of popularity so most chances this will be going with this all but quality of game will decrease as we already have in West Indies, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh few other countries will be keep going as they have good finances for support and going ahead but new and few which are not good enough can go some down.

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I think it's better if he does not concentrate on test cricket right now and concentrates more on the shorter formats of cricket because he is into the later stages of his career. At this moment a break will do a lot of good for him because if he goes away and the Indian team starts performing bad, I think eventually he will be needed in the team and at that time I am quite sure that he will be able to perform a lot better with a positive state of mind.

If the opinion is that Virat Kohli should step down as a player and then come back when India is struggling does not make any sense  . No player will take a break and then expect him to perform well and when a team is struggling how come he will be able to bat freely with all the pressure upon him, so that is not a good option for him. He needs to rectify his technique he thinks is creating problems and one solid innings will change the momentum.

[Sithara007]

I think it's better if he does not concentrate on test cricket right now and concentrates more on the shorter formats of cricket because he is into the later stages of his career. At this moment a break will do a lot of good for him because if he goes away and the Indian team starts performing bad, I think eventually he will be needed in the team and at that time I am quite sure that he will be able to perform a lot better with a positive state of mind.

This (taking a break) was suggested to him many months back, but he refused to listen. Anyway, he is angry with the BCCI guys and now Ganguly and Shah doesn't want to antagonize him further. As of now, Kohli has at least 3-4 years of international cricket left with him. And maybe another 2-3 years of IPL after that. He remains as the Indian cricketer with the maximum market value. Others (Rohit, Bumrah, Shami.etc) are far behind. But sooner or later, he need to address the issue of his current poor form.

[blatchcorn]

This (taking a break) was suggested to him many months back, but he refused to listen. Anyway, he is angry with the BCCI guys and now Ganguly and Shah doesn't want to antagonize him further. As of now, Kohli has at least 3-4 years of international cricket left with him. And maybe another 2-3 years of IPL after that. He remains as the Indian cricketer with the maximum market value. Others (Rohit, Bumrah, Shami.etc) are far behind. But sooner or later, he need to address the issue of his current poor form.

I would say with current form he can only play 1 to 2 years in international cricket, as bcci won't afford such batsmen in there line-up. I agree he has market value because of many reasons but we have to admit his value as a batsman has gone down to zero.

[S A KHAIR]

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I think it's better if he does not concentrate on test cricket right now and concentrates more on the shorter formats of cricket because he is into the later stages of his career. At this moment a break will do a lot of good for him because if he goes away and the Indian team starts performing bad, I think eventually he will be needed in the team and at that time I am quite sure that he will be able to perform a lot better with a positive state of mind.

If the opinion is that Virat Kohli should step down as a player and then come back when India is struggling does not make any sense  . No player will take a break and then expect him to perform well and when a team is struggling how come he will be able to bat freely with all the pressure upon him, so that is not a good option for him. He needs to rectify his technique he thinks is creating problems and one solid innings will change the momentum.

And exactly how long are we going to wait for that “one solid innings”?  and the other thing is if Virat Kohli steps down as a  player and India is doing well,  aren't there less chances of him being called into the team?
I get that some players might play Bad and they might switch that there for him but still I think the chances are low.

I think it's better if he does not concentrate on test cricket right now and concentrates more on the shorter formats of cricket because he is into the later stages of his career. At this moment a break will do a lot of good for him because if he goes away and the Indian team starts performing bad, I think eventually he will be needed in the team and at that time I am quite sure that he will be able to perform a lot better with a positive state of mind.

This (taking a break) was suggested to him many months back, but he refused to listen. Anyway, he is angry with the BCCI guys and now Ganguly and Shah doesn't want to antagonize him further. As of now, Kohli has at least 3-4 years of international cricket left with him. And maybe another 2-3 years of IPL after that. He remains as the Indian cricketer with the maximum market value. Others (Rohit, Bumrah, Shami.etc) are far behind. But sooner or later, he need to address the issue of his current poor form.

Everyone goes through slums and it's ok to acknowledge that. and a player obviously has to understand that he is actually going through slumps and he really should understand that at that time the best thing to do is take a break.  and one more thing that is is not being understood by Virat Kohli is that it the more he will try to overcome this situation with his tilted mentality the more he is going to play bad.

[wiss19]

I would say with current form he can only play 1 to 2 years in international cricket, as bcci won't afford such batsmen in there line-up. I agree he has market value because of many reasons but we have to admit his value as a batsman has gone down to zero.

Day by day things are going the worst for Kohli but greediness or competition is not allowing him to take care about these things, and he is carried on with his the worst form in current time which can bring some more problems for him and his career.

Many saying it's all about money and few are having other views alike ego or what, but surely he needs some break which give them some better mind-set about his game and future, but he has to do something for some time surely currently Indian team is most busy in cricket world and their players are now suffering from things like this which is not good signal if BCCI needs to keep their players in good shape then surely they need to work on rotation system and having some strong back for all in all formats which will help them for staying good for long time, and they could be served in better way for their country.

[7788bitcoin]

I would say with current form he can only play 1 to 2 years in international cricket, as bcci won't afford such batsmen in there line-up. I agree he has market value because of many reasons but we have to admit his value as a batsman has gone down to zero.

If you say that Virat Kohli is having zero value as a batsman then there are other players like Rohit Sharma who is struggling as well and there are many young talents that are waiting for an opportunity to play and they need to find these players and give them the opportunity rather than replacing all these big players all at once. Even in Test matches their specialist players like Rahane and Pujara are struggling for a while and they need to be replaced if BCCI plans on replacing Kohli  .

[mm2543363580]

I would say with current form he can only play 1 to 2 years in international cricket, as bcci won't afford such batsmen in there line-up. I agree he has market value because of many reasons but we have to admit his value as a batsman has gone down to zero.

Day by day things are going the worst for Kohli but greediness or competition is not allowing him to take care about these things, and he is carried on with his the worst form in current time which can bring some more problems for him and his career.

Many saying it's all about money and few are having other views alike ego or what, but surely he needs some break which give them some better mind-set about his game and future, but he has to do something for some time surely currently Indian team is most busy in cricket world and their players are now suffering from things like this which is not good signal if BCCI needs to keep their players in good shape then surely they need to work on rotation system and having some strong back for all in all formats which will help them for staying good for long time, and they could be served in better way for their country.

Seem like there are so much nepotism and ego problem in the indian players. There are so many teams in IPL and it's hard to keep record of them.
Everything has pros and cons - now we dont see the professionalism in cricket these days because there is so much rush of young cricketers in the ground  now.

[coinism]

]If you say that Virat Kohli is having zero value as a batsman then there are other players like Rohit Sharma who is struggling as well and there are many young talents that are waiting for an opportunity to play and they need to find these players and give them the opportunity rather than replacing all these big players all at once. Even in Test matches their specialist players like Rahane and Pujara are struggling for a while and they need to be replaced if BCCI plans on replacing Kohli  .

Even in IPL kohli has got two ducks in his last two matches. BCCI would do harm to its national squad if they keep including kohli in its playing eleven. Pujara and Rahane are replaced as they were not seen in latest test series against SL. Time for king kohli to think wisely else it will be too late.

[blatchcorn]

Day by day things are going the worst for Kohli but greediness or competition is not allowing him to take care about these things, and he is carried on with his the worst form in current time which can bring some more problems for him and his career.

Many saying it's all about money and few are having other views alike ego or what, but surely he needs some break which give them some better mind-set about his game and future, but he has to do something for some time surely currently Indian team is most busy in cricket world and their players are now suffering from things like this which is not good signal if BCCI needs to keep their players in good shape then surely they need to work on rotation system and having some strong back for all in all formats which will help them for staying good for long time, and they could be served in better way for their country.

In South Asia the problem with players like kohli is that they don't take break since they fear that new players may perform well and they will be replaced permanently. With this mentality kohli is still carrying on. In T20 WC, when kohli was asked to replace rohit because of his bad form he laughed and ignored it. Now same is done by Rohit when asked will he consider replacing kohli. Seems like Indian skippers are more interested in having good relationships with each other and that's costing Indian team.

[Swordsoffreedom]

In South Asia the problem with players like kohli is that they don't take break since they fear that new players may perform well and they will be replaced permanently. With this mentality kohli is still carrying on. In T20 WC, when kohli was asked to replace rohit because of his bad form he laughed and ignored it. Now same is done by Rohit when asked will he consider replacing kohli. Seems like Indian skippers are more interested in having good relationships with each other and that's costing Indian team.

Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma may not be in form. However, India does not have talented and experienced players like them. There are some young players who are quite talented, but they are not as experienced as Rohit and Kohli. And so replacement of Kohli and Rohit is not possible now.
However, it is important to return to their form. Some days they should take a break from all types of cricket. Once they are mentally stable, they should practice again. Maybe with hard practice they will be able to get back to form.

[romero121]

In South Asia the problem with players like kohli is that they don't take break since they fear that new players may perform well and they will be replaced permanently. With this mentality kohli is still carrying on. In T20 WC, when kohli was asked to replace rohit because of his bad form he laughed and ignored it. Now same is done by Rohit when asked will he consider replacing kohli. Seems like Indian skippers are more interested in having good relationships with each other and that's costing Indian team.

Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma may not be in form. However, India does not have talented and experienced players like them. There are some young players who are quite talented, but they are not as experienced as Rohit and Kohli. And so replacement of Kohli and Rohit is not possible now.
However, it is important to return to their form. Some days they should take a break from all types of cricket. Once they are mentally stable, they should practice again. Maybe with hard practice they will be able to get back to form.

That's a wrong statement. India have got more talented players, when opportunities were given we'll come to know about them. Now through IPL more strong players of India are known to the world. When there is consistent performance with a player they can't be questioned as well as when there is lack of performance they shouldn't be removed from the squad immediately. They need to be given time, because one may not perform in a series but come and perform with confidence in the next series.

[galambo]

That's a wrong statement. India have got more talented players, when opportunities were given we'll come to know about them. Now through IPL more strong players of India are known to the world. When there is consistent performance with a player they can't be questioned as well as when there is lack of performance they shouldn't be removed from the squad immediately. They need to be given time, because one may not perform in a series but come and perform with confidence in the next series.

India has population of 1.3 billion and they are crazy for cricket. BCCI has around 40 teams in its domestic cricket pool. So with such huge setup it's surprising to see bcci has no replacement of King kohli nor rohit. If bcci wanna continue with kohli current form rather then giving chance to new talent then its there own choice.

[JSRAW]

In South Asia the problem with players like kohli is that they don't take break since they fear that new players may perform well and they will be replaced permanently. With this mentality kohli is still carrying on. In T20 WC, when kohli was asked to replace rohit because of his bad form he laughed and ignored it. Now same is done by Rohit when asked will he consider replacing kohli. Seems like Indian skippers are more interested in having good relationships with each other and that's costing Indian team.

Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma may not be in form. However, India does not have talented and experienced players like them. There are some young players who are quite talented, but they are not as experienced as Rohit and Kohli. And so replacement of Kohli and Rohit is not possible now.
However, it is important to return to their form. Some days they should take a break from all types of cricket. Once they are mentally stable, they should practice again. Maybe with hard practice they will be able to get back to form.

That's a wrong statement. India have got more talented players, when opportunities were given we'll come to know about them. Now through IPL more strong players of India are known to the world. When there is consistent performance with a player they can't be questioned as well as when there is lack of performance they shouldn't be removed from the squad immediately. They need to be given time, because one may not perform in a series but come and perform with confidence in the next series.

Sometime i wish that ICC should allow BCCI to field 2 or may be 3 teams (being cheeky here) teams in ICC tournament lol, i know it's a ridiculous demand but imo it does have some merit. Even 2nd, 3rd string Indian team would perform better or give fair amount of competition to opposition in comparison to associate member.

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Rambo is about to lose his job soon.

[LittleBitFunny]

Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma may not be in form. However, India does not have talented and experienced players like them. There are some young players who are quite talented, but they are not as experienced as Rohit and Kohli. And so replacement of Kohli and Rohit is not possible now.
However, it is important to return to their form. Some days they should take a break from all types of cricket. Once they are mentally stable, they should practice again. Maybe with hard practice they will be able to get back to form.

That's a wrong statement. India have got more talented players, when opportunities were given we'll come to know about them. Now through IPL more strong players of India are known to the world. When there is consistent performance with a player they can't be questioned as well as when there is lack of performance they shouldn't be removed from the squad immediately. They need to be given time, because one may not perform in a series but come and perform with confidence in the next series.

I agree because I think India has a lot of talent on offer but they don't have the experience and also the quality that these two players bring in the team.

I also agree that the players should be given more time and especially the players who are young. It is easy to feel nervous in the first few matches. But once the nerves get settled the player is surely going to do better. And I believe through IPL a lot of players are coming forward and they also don't feel that much nervousness while playing their first few matches.

[JSRAW]

Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma may not be in form. However, India does not have talented and experienced players like them. There are some young players who are quite talented, but they are not as experienced as Rohit and Kohli. And so replacement of Kohli and Rohit is not possible now.
However, it is important to return to their form. Some days they should take a break from all types of cricket. Once they are mentally stable, they should practice again. Maybe with hard practice they will be able to get back to form.

That's a wrong statement. India have got more talented players, when opportunities were given we'll come to know about them. Now through IPL more strong players of India are known to the world. When there is consistent performance with a player they can't be questioned as well as when there is lack of performance they shouldn't be removed from the squad immediately. They need to be given time, because one may not perform in a series but come and perform with confidence in the next series.

I agree because I think India has a lot of talent on offer but they don't have the experience and also the quality that these two players bring in the team.

I also agree that the players should be given more time and especially the players who are young. It is easy to feel nervous in the first few matches. But once the nerves get settled the player is surely going to do better. And I believe through IPL a lot of players are coming forward and they also don't feel that much nervousness while playing their first few matches.

I think you guys are focused on IPL so i want to jump in this conversation.

Just to give everyone broad perspective in regards of quality. Natarajan, Washington, Axar, Avesh Khan, Kartik, Ravi Bishnoi, Umesh Yadav, Khaleel Ahmed, Harshal patel, Prasidh Krishna, Gaikward, Shryas iyer, Shivam Dhube, Venkatesh Iyer, Prithvi Shaw, Shikar Dhawan can't even find their place in National team and i'm not even including new guys here.