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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
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Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
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April 23, 2021, 11:11:14 AM
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I think this kid has an attitude problem, why not settle the issue offline and not publish it on the media.  

He's not a kid anymore. He's 28. Smiley I'm expecting him to be matured. Maybe he thinks as a former NBA D league, he can demand what he wants. And you are right, those things should be confidential but why bring it to the media. To pressure the management? It won't work as whatever he is, he's still a rookie.

MVP is not that dumb not to take care of him if he will show great performance and being a good contributor to the team. He just need to show what he got.

This player think like a superstar that deserve a good salary, 300k is too high for PBA since they have a capped, so why would he force himself to play in PBA if he is expecting a higher salary, if he really like bigger salary, then he should play in an international league, that's the only answer.

He has the value, but it's not right to ask for too much that is already out of the maximum, that's just stupid of him, it's like TNT is hiring staff and he is the best candicate but he want a role of the manager, that doesn't make sense. I guess TNT here will just let this player go and look for other deserving players, pretty sure there's more who have a better skills and willing to start with a smaller salary.

Meanwhile, fresh update on PBA>

PBA hopeful teams will be allowed to begin practices in areas under MGCQ
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April 23, 2021, 11:50:39 AM
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TBH, I don't think that there is something wrong with a rookie asking for a higher salary since in the end it will depend on the team management if they will give it or not. One thing more is I don't think that it is right to tell a professional player a kid just because of this. Attitude problem?? I rather call this "his confidence is at a next level" Smiley.

I have not read anything prohibiting us or anyone on calling a pro basketball player a kid. I call him kid because i think he is on his early 20's like most of the draftees but it has nothing to do on him asking that amount for a salary.

I do think different from you and him asking for a non-standard salary is a problem. The definition of PROBLEM in the industry is deviation from standard and that is what he is doing now. Not a good first step for a rookie. He might paly good basketball in the US but the style of play in the PBA is very different and he might nor fit that's why i said he should first prove his worth. 

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April 23, 2021, 11:53:24 AM
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I think this kid has an attitude problem, why not settle the issue offline and not publish it on the media.  

He's not a kid anymore. He's 28. Smiley I'm expecting him to be matured. Maybe he thinks as a former NBA D league, he can demand what he wants. And you are right, those things should be confidential but why bring it to the media. To pressure the management? It won't work as whatever he is, he's still a rookie.

MVP is not that dumb not to take care of him if he will show great performance and being a good contributor to the team. He just need to show what he got.

This player think like a superstar that deserve a good salary, 300k is too high for PBA since they have a capped, so why would he force himself to play in PBA if he is expecting a higher salary, if he really like bigger salary, then he should play in an international league, that's the only answer.

He has the value, but it's not right to ask for too much that is already out of the maximum, that's just stupid of him, it's like TNT is hiring staff and he is the best candicate but he want a role of the manager, that doesn't make sense. I guess TNT here will just let this player go and look for other deserving players, pretty sure there's more who have a better skills and willing to start with a smaller salary.

Meanwhile, fresh update on PBA>

PBA hopeful teams will be allowed to begin practices in areas under MGCQ

These news that has been published lately has been telling us that PBA will commence soon, they are planning already of a practice, so they probably are looking for the commencement next month or the following month. The problem is already their, they just need to find a better solution so they can start the season, and as a fan, all we can do is just hope and pray that they'll successfully open the season.

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April 24, 2021, 09:27:10 PM
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This is according to coach Norman.

Sorry coach Yeng, but Black doesn’t think PBA is just a four-team race

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NORMAN Black refused to believe the 46th PBA season has been reduced to a four-team battle for the championship.

While he did acknowledge Barangay Ginebra, San Miguel Beer, TnT Tropang Giga, and Magnolia are consensus title contenders, Black still likes the chances of his Meralco Bolts to challenge the league’s so-called elite teams.

Coach Norman is right, Meralco is a good contender as well, Coach Yeng are now talking non sense, why not include his team, it seems like he loss faith that his team could compete against the big teams in the PBA, that's not the couach Yeng I know, maybe he meant something deeper on his statement.
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April 25, 2021, 12:49:50 PM
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This is according to coach Norman.

Sorry coach Yeng, but Black doesn’t think PBA is just a four-team race

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NORMAN Black refused to believe the 46th PBA season has been reduced to a four-team battle for the championship.

While he did acknowledge Barangay Ginebra, San Miguel Beer, TnT Tropang Giga, and Magnolia are consensus title contenders, Black still likes the chances of his Meralco Bolts to challenge the league’s so-called elite teams.

Coach Norman is right, Meralco is a good contender as well, Coach Yeng are now talking non sense, why not include his team, it seems like he loss faith that his team could compete against the big teams in the PBA, that's not the couach Yeng I know, maybe he meant something deeper on his statement.

I agree with you, Meralco is also a threat to the popular teams, even in all Filipino cup. He should not publicize his frustration or whatever you call it by praising the big teams and insulting other teams, I really find his statement offensive, and I think Coach Norman here got offended with his comment.

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April 26, 2021, 02:52:53 AM
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A news, very hot news regarding Mikey Williams

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/mikey-williams-finally-officially-joins-tnt-tropang-giga-signs-two-year-deal-a793-20210426?ref=home_featured_2

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The 6-foot-2 Williams will finally come on board for the franchise after being signed to a two-year max contract.

Team manager Gabby Cui confirmed the deal on Monday.

The signing puts an end to the long standoff between the Tropang Giga and the highly-touted rookie picked No. 4 overall in the last PBA draft.

Under the deal, Williams, 28, will be receiving a total of P5.4 million in the next two years, including a monthly salary of P250,000 in his sophomore season.

Good that they ended up getting him because he can be a huge part of the team now that Ray Parks isn't playing. He might not get the 300,000 monthly salary that he wants, he got a max contract and a higher salary at his 2nd year and not only that, he also got a telecommunication franchise.

Any takeaway from you who are waiting for this news?? Smiley

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April 26, 2021, 10:17:19 AM
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This is according to coach Norman.

Sorry coach Yeng, but Black doesn’t think PBA is just a four-team race

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NORMAN Black refused to believe the 46th PBA season has been reduced to a four-team battle for the championship.

While he did acknowledge Barangay Ginebra, San Miguel Beer, TnT Tropang Giga, and Magnolia are consensus title contenders, Black still likes the chances of his Meralco Bolts to challenge the league’s so-called elite teams.

Coach Norman is right, Meralco is a good contender as well, Coach Yeng are now talking non sense, why not include his team, it seems like he loss faith that his team could compete against the big teams in the PBA, that's not the couach Yeng I know, maybe he meant something deeper on his statement.

I agree with you, Meralco is also a threat to the popular teams, even in all Filipino cup. He should not publicize his frustration or whatever you call it by praising the big teams and insulting other teams, I really find his statement offensive, and I think Coach Norman here got offended with his comment.

Both coach have their own opinions, but yes coach Norman might get offended from that statement,
Meralco is there to compete though unable to win the title but they are doing their best to reach the finals or the semis.

With coach Yeng, he might expressing his frsutrations not only with the league but also sending his message to his franchise owner trying to express that 4 teams have better squad.

Whatever they wanted to point out, they should liable with their statement,..

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April 26, 2021, 10:42:05 AM
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This is according to coach Norman.

Sorry coach Yeng, but Black doesn’t think PBA is just a four-team race

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NORMAN Black refused to believe the 46th PBA season has been reduced to a four-team battle for the championship.

While he did acknowledge Barangay Ginebra, San Miguel Beer, TnT Tropang Giga, and Magnolia are consensus title contenders, Black still likes the chances of his Meralco Bolts to challenge the league’s so-called elite teams.

Coach Norman is right, Meralco is a good contender as well, Coach Yeng are now talking non sense, why not include his team, it seems like he loss faith that his team could compete against the big teams in the PBA, that's not the couach Yeng I know, maybe he meant something deeper on his statement.

We can't blame coach Yeng on how he felt at the moment. He tried very hard to build a championship team in NLEX but with just a blink of an eye, his prized center (Erram) was traded to TNT which i think opposite to his vision on the team. They can't win championship without a legit big man that can match JMF15 or the other center, that is why he think that the PBA is just a four team race lol.

But of the other side, he is just so pessimistic as anything can happen if he would just focus and motivate his team that the season is an open race just like the thinking of coach Norman Black.

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April 26, 2021, 11:10:31 AM
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A news, very hot news regarding Mikey Williams

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/mikey-williams-finally-officially-joins-tnt-tropang-giga-signs-two-year-deal-a793-20210426?ref=home_featured_2

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The 6-foot-2 Williams will finally come on board for the franchise after being signed to a two-year max contract.

Team manager Gabby Cui confirmed the deal on Monday.

The signing puts an end to the long standoff between the Tropang Giga and the highly-touted rookie picked No. 4 overall in the last PBA draft.

Under the deal, Williams, 28, will be receiving a total of P5.4 million in the next two years, including a monthly salary of P250,000 in his sophomore season.

Good that they ended up getting him because he can be a huge part of the team now that Ray Parks isn't playing. He might not get the 300,000 monthly salary that he wants, he got a max contract and a higher salary at his 2nd year and not only that, he also got a telecommunication franchise.

Any takeaway from you who are waiting for this news?? Smiley
Good for him though, if he declines this contract, there's probably no other team that would take him in due to that attitude. At least he got into a good team and with that salary, I think he can settle with that amount.
He should be doing good with some of performance bonuses during his stay.

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April 26, 2021, 11:25:27 AM
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A news, very hot news regarding Mikey Williams

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/mikey-williams-finally-officially-joins-tnt-tropang-giga-signs-two-year-deal-a793-20210426?ref=home_featured_2

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The 6-foot-2 Williams will finally come on board for the franchise after being signed to a two-year max contract.

Team manager Gabby Cui confirmed the deal on Monday.

The signing puts an end to the long standoff between the Tropang Giga and the highly-touted rookie picked No. 4 overall in the last PBA draft.

Under the deal, Williams, 28, will be receiving a total of P5.4 million in the next two years, including a monthly salary of P250,000 in his sophomore season.

Good that they ended up getting him because he can be a huge part of the team now that Ray Parks isn't playing. He might not get the 300,000 monthly salary that he wants, he got a max contract and a higher salary at his 2nd year and not only that, he also got a telecommunication franchise.

Any takeaway from you who are waiting for this news?? Smiley
Good for him though, if he declines this contract, there's probably no other team that would take him in due to that attitude. At least he got into a good team and with that salary, I think he can settle with that amount.
He should be doing good with some of performance bonuses during his stay.

That's already a decent salary for a veteran, that's Php 225,000 on a monthly basis, higher than the max salary of a rookie which is only PHP 200,000. he deserved that salary, and I think it was already rumored that he will come back under the new coach, and finally it has already come into reality.

Maybe the issue with Ray Parks not signing for the team, open up an opportunity for new players and Williams could be one of the beneficiary.

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GAB approves training bubble of Creamline, Choco Mucho in Clark

Maybe soon we will see news related to PBA which are approved to start their training.
If the can start next month, then we can expect that the PBA will resume in the last week or the start of June.

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April 26, 2021, 12:35:56 PM
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GAB approves training bubble of Creamline, Choco Mucho in Clark

Maybe soon we will see news related to PBA which are approved to start their training.
If the can start next month, then we can expect that the PBA will resume in the last week or the start of June.

This is good news.

There's no confirmation yet, but that news you shared is probably a good start and PBA will have to remain hopeful as eventually they will also be allowed. PBA is not different from other leagues, it has physical contact and therefore they should be treated the same.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/mgcq-areas-rightful-place-for-pba-teams-to-start-practices-scrimmages-a793-20210423

That's the only update for now, but I'm optimistic soon we will see good news.

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April 26, 2021, 01:53:39 PM
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What do you think is the best team in the PBA now.

For me, I think it's the Ginebra San Miguel, why? because they have C. Stand.
https://pba.ph/news/aguilar-looks-forward-to-reunion-with-standhardinger

Aguilar and C. Stand playing together, they will make a tough team, I'm really excited to see how things will work out for them this season.

@mirakal, maybe add a poll on what team will win this coming season.



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April 26, 2021, 02:03:44 PM
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What do you think is the best team in the PBA now.

For me, I think it's the Ginebra San Miguel, why? because they have C. Stand.
https://pba.ph/news/aguilar-looks-forward-to-reunion-with-standhardinger

Aguilar and C. Stand playing together, they will make a tough team, I'm really excited to see how things will work out for them this season.

@mirakal, maybe add a poll on what team will win this coming season.

For this season, I agree that Ginebra have a higher chance in winning another title.

Knowing that SMB is not solid due to  Fajardo is not 100% yet, and TNT are still blending its new chemistry.

With C.Stand attitude where he always been consistent with his game he's mentality to win always amazed me, from SMB to Global port he shows he's competitiveness, now he's been added to another super team for sure he'll able to offer not just for offense but for sure he's presence inside together with Aguilar will limit those offensive attempts.

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April 26, 2021, 02:21:58 PM
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What do you think is the best team in the PBA now.

For me, I think it's the Ginebra San Miguel, why? because they have C. Stand.
https://pba.ph/news/aguilar-looks-forward-to-reunion-with-standhardinger

Aguilar and C. Stand playing together, they will make a tough team, I'm really excited to see how things will work out for them this season.

@mirakal, maybe add a poll on what team will win this coming season.

For this season, I agree that Ginebra have a higher chance in winning another title.

Knowing that SMB is not solid due to  Fajardo is not 100% yet, and TNT are still blending its new chemistry.

With C.Stand attitude where he always been consistent with his game he's mentality to win always amazed me, from SMB to Global port he shows he's competitiveness, now he's been added to another super team for sure he'll able to offer not just for offense but for sure he's presence inside together with Aguilar will limit those offensive attempts.



Thanks for the suggestion, I'm adding a poll so we will know what everyone thinks of the new season. Are we gonna be witnessing an All Filipino Cup again, right? Feel free to vote, and don't forget to post the reason why you choose that specific team, not compulsory but it's appreciated if you'll comment.

I'll start voting, going with Ginebra.

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April 26, 2021, 05:12:47 PM
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A news, very hot news regarding Mikey Williams

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/mikey-williams-finally-officially-joins-tnt-tropang-giga-signs-two-year-deal-a793-20210426?ref=home_featured_2

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The 6-foot-2 Williams will finally come on board for the franchise after being signed to a two-year max contract.

Team manager Gabby Cui confirmed the deal on Monday.

The signing puts an end to the long standoff between the Tropang Giga and the highly-touted rookie picked No. 4 overall in the last PBA draft.

Under the deal, Williams, 28, will be receiving a total of P5.4 million in the next two years, including a monthly salary of P250,000 in his sophomore season.

Good that they ended up getting him because he can be a huge part of the team now that Ray Parks isn't playing. He might not get the 300,000 monthly salary that he wants, he got a max contract and a higher salary at his 2nd year and not only that, he also got a telecommunication franchise.

Any takeaway from you who are waiting for this news?? Smiley
Good for him though, if he declines this contract, there's probably no other team that would take him in due to that attitude. At least he got into a good team and with that salary, I think he can settle with that amount.
He should be doing good with some of performance bonuses during his stay.

That's already a decent salary for a veteran, that's Php 225,000 on a monthly basis, higher than the max salary of a rookie which is only PHP 200,000. he deserved that salary, and I think it was already rumored that he will come back under the new coach, and finally it has already come into reality.

Maybe the issue with Ray Parks not signing for the team, open up an opportunity for new players and Williams could be one of the beneficiary.
Yes, it's already a decent amount that he shouldn't decline. Well, Ray Parks has some issue and it must be personal and he really don't want to play anymore under them or,
He asked for some raise about his contract and the deal didn't go through, I don't know, just giving some thoughts.

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April 26, 2021, 08:59:44 PM
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Coach Yeng are now talking non sense, why not include his team,

Honestly, his view makes sense. Let's face the reality.

In PBA, being optimistic, being hungry, being motivated, etc. are not enough to compete especially in All-Filipino Cup where there are no dominant imports that can lift up and carry a certain low to mid tier teams. Coach Yeng is just being realistic. They need a strong powerhouse cast to fulfill that being optimistic and motivated. This isn't a movie wherein just being a believer can be turned into success.

I also have the same thinking when Coach Yeng just gave up their bubble rally last year and ask his guys to just play it lightly. I thought they are just giving up but looking at the realistic side, even he will force his men to go all-out, they are lacking players that can compete against a much-stacked team like those in SMC and MVP.

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April 26, 2021, 09:20:44 PM
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Coach Yeng are now talking non sense, why not include his team,

Honestly, his view makes sense. Let's face the reality.

In PBA, being optimistic, being hungry, being motivated, etc. are not enough to compete especially in All-Filipino Cup where there are no dominant imports that can lift up and carry a certain low to mid tier teams. Coach Yeng is just being realistic. They need a strong powerhouse cast to fulfill that being optimistic and motivated. This isn't a movie wherein just being a believer can be turned into success.

I also have the same thinking when Coach Yeng just gave up their bubble rally last year and ask his guys to just play it lightly. I thought they are just giving up but looking at the realistic side, even he will force his men to go all-out, they are lacking players that can compete against a much-stacked team like those in SMC and MVP.

I thought NLEX belongs to the MVP group, so they should also be given players that could compete with the big teams in the PBA. Correct me if I'm wrong, I just writing based on the result of my research. Maybe Coach Yeng cannot replicate the success he had during his time with the ROS, and comparing ROS to his team now, I guess NLEX is a bigger team, and yet he is less successful here compared to handling the ROS as a head coach before.

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April 26, 2021, 09:35:28 PM
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I thought NLEX belongs to the MVP group, so they should also be given players that could compete with the big teams in the PBA.

NLEX good players are being traded to their sister team, the top team of MVP which is TNT KaTropa.

NLEX, even just a speculation, is a farm team of top MVP team. Smiley

Not checking the history but Meralco, also an MVP team, not sure if already got involved in a trade between NLEX.
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April 26, 2021, 09:38:16 PM
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I thought NLEX belongs to the MVP group, so they should also be given players that could compete with the big teams in the PBA. Correct me if I'm wrong, I just writing based on the result of my research. Maybe Coach Yeng cannot replicate the success he had during his time with the ROS, and comparing ROS to his team now, I guess NLEX is a bigger team, and yet he is less successful here compared to handling the ROS as a head coach before.

Though NLEX belong to the MVP group of companies, still they have to get into a normal process of getting more talented players and i think what frustrate coach Yeng is that TNT is the priority of the three MVP teams and NLEX is somewhat a farm team at the moment. I won't be surprised if K. Ravena would be traded to TNT in case Mikey Williams can't fulfill the duty that is expected of him.

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