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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 16 (45.7%)
SMB - 7 (20%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 5 (14.3%)
Talk and Text - 6 (17.1%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (2.9%)
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April 10, 2021, 09:21:07 PM
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Cone sees Slaughter flourishing with NorthPort: 'He needs the game to be built around him'

Just to let him feel upset on the trade, lol.. The fact that they let him go, it means they don't need him anymore as they are not satisfied with his performance, I'm not sure if that statement is really serious.
That’s how you tell the public so you can still be good, trade is not just letting other teams to flourish a player that only means he’s not performing anymore and you have to look for more players that can be traded against your own player. Anyway, this is basketball after all we saw many trades already and let’s see if Slaughter will really perform this time.
He will surely perform as there's no other players that could carry this team, he will fill the place of C. Stand, so definitely the expectation of him contributing to the team is very high, this is just to up his morale, coach Tim Cone is good at that, it's his secret of success.

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April 10, 2021, 09:25:12 PM
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trade is not just letting other teams to flourish a player that only means he’s not performing anymore and you have to look for more players that can be traded against your own player. Anyway, this is basketball after all we saw many trades already and let’s see if Slaughter will really perform this time.
That's the main point, too bad that he's traded and he has to realize that he's been traded for a better player and they don't need him anymore. He has to prove them wrong with his new team and if still, he can't perform as much as they're expecting, they'll have to trade him again as long as it's part of the contract. He needs to improve and become better than what they think about him.
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April 10, 2021, 09:28:28 PM
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trade is not just letting other teams to flourish a player that only means he’s not performing anymore and you have to look for more players that can be traded against your own player. Anyway, this is basketball after all we saw many trades already and let’s see if Slaughter will really perform this time.
That's the main point, too bad that he's traded and he has to realize that he's been traded for a better player and they don't need him anymore. He has to prove them wrong with his new team and if still, he can't perform as much as they're expecting, they'll have to trade him again as long as it's part of the contract. He needs to improve and become better than what they think about him.

He flew to the USA to train after his contract with BGSM has expired, maybe that little time could help him to improve his game. In terms of statistics, well, we can expect some improvemnet as definitely he will get more touches of the ball since NP is not a powerhouse team, he will be considered as a star player so its his chance to prove his worth again though in different team.

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April 10, 2021, 10:49:16 PM
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trade is not just letting other teams to flourish a player that only means he’s not performing anymore and you have to look for more players that can be traded against your own player. Anyway, this is basketball after all we saw many trades already and let’s see if Slaughter will really perform this time.
That's the main point, too bad that he's traded and he has to realize that he's been traded for a better player and they don't need him anymore. He has to prove them wrong with his new team and if still, he can't perform as much as they're expecting, they'll have to trade him again as long as it's part of the contract. He needs to improve and become better than what they think about him.

He flew to the USA to train after his contract with BGSM has expired, maybe that little time could help him to improve his game. In terms of statistics, well, we can expect some improvemnet as definitely he will get more touches of the ball since NP is not a powerhouse team, he will be considered as a star player so its his chance to prove his worth again though in different team.
He's with Ginebra for seven years since he was included in PBA draft on 2013, and of course this is not the end of his PBA journey now with the new team, I'm sure he'll be more eager to show to Ginebra of what they have lost and probe his worth. He needs to do everything and give 101% on his upcoming games with the new team, though of course he has nothing to prove anymore because he's a champion already.
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April 10, 2021, 10:59:14 PM
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trade is not just letting other teams to flourish a player that only means he’s not performing anymore and you have to look for more players that can be traded against your own player. Anyway, this is basketball after all we saw many trades already and let’s see if Slaughter will really perform this time.
That's the main point, too bad that he's traded and he has to realize that he's been traded for a better player and they don't need him anymore. He has to prove them wrong with his new team and if still, he can't perform as much as they're expecting, they'll have to trade him again as long as it's part of the contract. He needs to improve and become better than what they think about him.

He flew to the USA to train after his contract with BGSM has expired, maybe that little time could help him to improve his game. In terms of statistics, well, we can expect some improvemnet as definitely he will get more touches of the ball since NP is not a powerhouse team, he will be considered as a star player so its his chance to prove his worth again though in different team.
He's with Ginebra for seven years since he was included in PBA draft on 2013, and of course this is not the end of his PBA journey now with the new team, I'm sure he'll be more eager to show to Ginebra of what they have lost and probe his worth. He needs to do everything and give 101% on his upcoming games with the new team, though of course he has nothing to prove anymore because he's a champion already.
There will be that pride from him whenever he's going to play against his former team. But he can also put that as his mindset and show them that they've lost a guy that they can depend on.
Maybe that's what we're going to see if he starts improving, can't wait to see the season and wishing him to become tougher and better inside the court.
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April 11, 2021, 01:07:00 AM
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Cone sees Slaughter flourishing with NorthPort: 'He needs the game to be built around him'

Just to let him feel upset on the trade, lol.. The fact that they let him go, it means they don't need him anymore as they are not satisfied with his performance, I'm not sure if that statement is really serious.
That’s how you tell the public so you can still be good, trade is not just letting other teams to flourish a player that only means he’s not performing anymore and you have to look for more players that can be traded against your own player. Anyway, this is basketball after all we saw many trades already and let’s see if Slaughter will really perform this time.
Slaughter is a decent player, he will perform the same as when he is in genebra, although his years spent on the team was not that spectacular, they just get him for rebounds, besides I don't see any progress on his plays same as usual every conference, him being traded is a good decision for the franchise, to get better players, what I don't like is that genebra is getting all the stars in the league, I mean who on earth will trade a star player for a bunch of old bench players, there is something wrong with that, genebra is tanking every conference getting all the great players from a sister team, just to chase a championship, which they can't get if they won't do that, the PBA should do something about the situation, of what genebra is doing.

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April 11, 2021, 10:17:09 AM
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Cone sees Slaughter flourishing with NorthPort: 'He needs the game to be built around him'

Just to let him feel upset on the trade, lol.. The fact that they let him go, it means they don't need him anymore as they are not satisfied with his performance, I'm not sure if that statement is really serious.
When Greg is still in the league around 2009, there are rumors already spreading regarding the Greg-CStand trade and after that Greg decided to leave Ginebra to practice outside the PH.

Now that he is back, he's just being used as a trading tool and now the Ginebra got Cstand in exchange of him. One thing more is that the Ginebra already won a championship without him and that is a proof that they don't need him in order to win a championship. On Greg's side, he must show his improvements of his practice last year and he must show that the Ginebra really made the wrong choice of trading him. I'm really excited how Greg will play this upcoming season and how he will fit on the NorthPort Smiley. I'm excited to see his improvements.

 
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April 11, 2021, 10:41:06 AM
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Cone sees Slaughter flourishing with NorthPort: 'He needs the game to be built around him'

Just to let him feel upset on the trade, lol.. The fact that they let him go, it means they don't need him anymore as they are not satisfied with his performance, I'm not sure if that statement is really serious.
When Greg is still in the league around 2009, there are rumors already spreading regarding the Greg-CStand trade and after that Greg decided to leave Ginebra to practice outside the PH.

Now that he is back, he's just being used as a trading tool and now the Ginebra got Cstand in exchange of him. One thing more is that the Ginebra already won a championship without him and that is a proof that they don't need him in order to win a championship. On Greg's side, he must show his improvements of his practice last year and he must show that the Ginebra really made the wrong choice of trading him. I'm really excited how Greg will play this upcoming season and how he will fit on the NorthPort Smiley. I'm excited to see his improvements.

He can stand out but the fact that the team he's been sent is not the type of a team who can compete with superb teams.

Plus also he's aging and lots of injuries, he can give some good minutes but without any supporting cast to win the game, he'll be forgotten
all along.

He should be thankful to land a team and now will still playing, unlike with other known players who still don't have clear destinations.
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April 11, 2021, 10:45:45 AM
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Cone sees Slaughter flourishing with NorthPort: 'He needs the game to be built around him'

Just to let him feel upset on the trade, lol.. The fact that they let him go, it means they don't need him anymore as they are not satisfied with his performance, I'm not sure if that statement is really serious.
When Greg is still in the league around 2009, there are rumors already spreading regarding the Greg-CStand trade and after that Greg decided to leave Ginebra to practice outside the PH.

Now that he is back, he's just being used as a trading tool and now the Ginebra got Cstand in exchange of him. One thing more is that the Ginebra already won a championship without him and that is a proof that they don't need him in order to win a championship. On Greg's side, he must show his improvements of his practice last year and he must show that the Ginebra really made the wrong choice of trading him. I'm really excited how Greg will play this upcoming season and how he will fit on the NorthPort Smiley. I'm excited to see his improvements.

He can stand out but the fact that the team he's been sent is not the type of a team who can compete with superb teams.

Plus also he's aging and lots of injuries, he can give some good minutes but without any supporting cast to win the game, he'll be forgotten
all along.

He should be thankful to land a team and now will still playing, unlike with other known players who still don't have clear destinations.

He is lucky he has the height, big man are usually a demand in the PBA, especially with the height like of JMF and Slaughter, they are actually rivals during their collage days and I'm happy they are still here in the PBA, thouhgh they don't have the same fate.

Speaking of injuries, that really is a big problem for the success of a player, look JMF, he is still out and with the recent report we read, he may not be able to come back early this season because there's a little problem.

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April 11, 2021, 12:29:00 PM
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Players and coaches are willing, so most likely we will see a PBA bubble soon, we are just waiting for the formal announcement.

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He should be willing because he was successful last bubble, and since Fajardo has not fully recovered yet, I'm guessing Ginebra will again win in this set up.

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April 11, 2021, 03:28:12 PM
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Players and coaches are willing, so most likely we will see a PBA bubble soon, we are just waiting for the formal announcement.

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Cone willing to go through another 'mentally wearing' PBA bubble
He should be willing because he was successful last bubble, and since Fajardo has not fully recovered yet, I'm guessing Ginebra will again win in this set up.

More on Gins favor after acquiring CStand, Though Fajardo will always there to threat them as he got the domination inside but still not fully recovered and this bubble set up more consecutive games SMB will not force him.

We are waiting for the final announcement and as a fan I'll be glad to see them back and continue this league, small profits or just break-even is far better than nothing.

The willingness of everyone dictates the league to continue.

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April 11, 2021, 10:13:47 PM
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Players and coaches are willing, so most likely we will see a PBA bubble soon, we are just waiting for the formal announcement.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/tim-cone-willing-to-go-through-another-mentally-wearing-pba-bubble-a795-20210411?ref=feed_1_section
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Cone willing to go through another 'mentally wearing' PBA bubble
He should be willing because he was successful last bubble, and since Fajardo has not fully recovered yet, I'm guessing Ginebra will again win in this set up.

More on Gins favor after acquiring CStand, Though Fajardo will always there to threat them as he got the domination inside but still not fully recovered and this bubble set up more consecutive games SMB will not force him.

We are waiting for the final announcement and as a fan I'll be glad to see them back and continue this league, small profits or just break-even is far better than nothing.



We don't know if Fajardo could play 100% the way he played when he won multiple MVPs award.

As this news says _ https://www.espn.com/basketball/pba/story/_/id/31025514/fajardo-return-season-not-sure-opener

He will return but not on the opener, that says he still has a problem and he might be in some restricted minutes.

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The willingness of everyone dictates the league to continue.

There's money on the line so everyone will be willing.

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April 11, 2021, 10:36:03 PM
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..small profits or just break-even is far better than nothing.

Agree. This is not what others don't get. They will always have a question, can PBA sustain it? As if we know the full capability of PBA in terms of the financial aspect. And to sustain or not is not our problem anymore because there is no way PBA will push something if they think they can't handle the budget. What are they looking for is to minimize the cost of expenses but they have a budget.

MECQ now in Manila effective today until the end of April. Sports aren't allowed to open. It will be only allowed in MGCQ areas which are so far low chance to be implemented in Manila. Like last year, Manila didn't have a chance to be under MGCQ and it's likely to happen again this year. The only way for the league to open the conference right now or for few months to go is to play on MGCQ areas but since it will be outside Manila, then a bubble is really the option.
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..small profits or just break-even is far better than nothing.

Agree. This is not what others don't get. They will always have a question, can PBA sustain it? As if we know the full capability of PBA in terms of the financial aspect. And to sustain or not is not our problem anymore because there is no way PBA will push something if they think they can't handle the budget. What are they looking for is to minimize the cost of expenses but they have a budget.

MECQ now in Manila effective today until the end of April. Sports aren't allowed to open. It will be only allowed in MGCQ areas which are so far low chance to be implemented in Manila. Like last year, Manila didn't have a chance to be under MGCQ and it's likely to happen again this year. The only way for the league to open the conference right now or for few months to go is to play on MGCQ areas but since it will be outside Manila, then a bubble is really the option.

Bubble is better, they have done it before so they are confortable doing it again under the current situation. We were excited to see PBA back to its old ways, but this news really disrupt that plan and the management has no chance but to comply the directives of the government, however, they can still open the season in a bubble format, better than nothing.

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April 12, 2021, 12:07:21 PM
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..small profits or just break-even is far better than nothing.

Agree. This is not what others don't get. They will always have a question, can PBA sustain it? As if we know the full capability of PBA in terms of the financial aspect. And to sustain or not is not our problem anymore because there is no way PBA will push something if they think they can't handle the budget. What are they looking for is to minimize the cost of expenses but they have a budget.

MECQ now in Manila effective today until the end of April. Sports aren't allowed to open. It will be only allowed in MGCQ areas which are so far low chance to be implemented in Manila. Like last year, Manila didn't have a chance to be under MGCQ and it's likely to happen again this year. The only way for the league to open the conference right now or for few months to go is to play on MGCQ areas but since it will be outside Manila, then a bubble is really the option.

Bubble is better, they have done it before so they are confortable doing it again under the current situation. We were excited to see PBA back to its old ways, but this news really disrupt that plan and the management has no chance but to comply the directives of the government, however, they can still open the season in a bubble format, better than nothing.

This is their last option since if they didn't implement the bubble they cannot start the season as the government protocols is the main problem they will encounter here. But if they think bubble format is not profitable at their ends maybe the best thing to do is to postpone the league for a while and let the vaccine roll out for safety of all.

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April 12, 2021, 12:18:23 PM
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..small profits or just break-even is far better than nothing.

Agree. This is not what others don't get. They will always have a question, can PBA sustain it? As if we know the full capability of PBA in terms of the financial aspect. And to sustain or not is not our problem anymore because there is no way PBA will push something if they think they can't handle the budget. What are they looking for is to minimize the cost of expenses but they have a budget.

MECQ now in Manila effective today until the end of April. Sports aren't allowed to open. It will be only allowed in MGCQ areas which are so far low chance to be implemented in Manila. Like last year, Manila didn't have a chance to be under MGCQ and it's likely to happen again this year. The only way for the league to open the conference right now or for few months to go is to play on MGCQ areas but since it will be outside Manila, then a bubble is really the option.

Bubble is better, they have done it before so they are confortable doing it again under the current situation. We were excited to see PBA back to its old ways, but this news really disrupt that plan and the management has no chance but to comply the directives of the government, however, they can still open the season in a bubble format, better than nothing.

This is their last option since if they didn't implement the bubble they cannot start the season as the government protocols is the main problem they will encounter here. But if they think bubble format is not profitable at their ends maybe the best thing to do is to postpone the league for a while and let the vaccine roll out for safety of all.

Yes, it's the easiest way to follow since they have done this before in the same situation, however, people are more aware now so there wouldn't be no more major problem if they'll do the bubble one more time. This bubble could also be different as we are not only talking of one conference here, maybe the same conference but I'm hopefully it will not all end in a bubble set up.

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April 12, 2021, 01:15:49 PM
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Players and coaches are willing, so most likely we will see a PBA bubble soon, we are just waiting for the formal announcement.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/tim-cone-willing-to-go-through-another-mentally-wearing-pba-bubble-a795-20210411?ref=feed_1_section
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Cone willing to go through another 'mentally wearing' PBA bubble
He should be willing because he was successful last bubble, and since Fajardo has not fully recovered yet, I'm guessing Ginebra will again win in this set up.

Bubble or not, if San Miguel Beer have a healthy Fajardo this season, i think they will snatch the championship trophy from the Gin Kings.

Fajardo is used to this "mentally wearing" bubble as he is always away from his family and that would work on his advantage if they will be in a bubble once again.

PBA should do a bubble and not think if it's profitable or not because this time is not normal and thinking of profit is too selfish for them.

There is an ongoing "bubble" league happening in Cebu, a small organization so i think PBA holding a bubble would not be problem even if there is no vaccine yet.

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Players and coaches are willing, so most likely we will see a PBA bubble soon, we are just waiting for the formal announcement.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/tim-cone-willing-to-go-through-another-mentally-wearing-pba-bubble-a795-20210411?ref=feed_1_section
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Cone willing to go through another 'mentally wearing' PBA bubble
He should be willing because he was successful last bubble, and since Fajardo has not fully recovered yet, I'm guessing Ginebra will again win in this set up.

Bubble or not, if San Miguel Beer have a healthy Fajardo this season, i think they will snatch the championship trophy from the Gin Kings.

Fajardo is used to this "mentally wearing" bubble as he is always away from his family and that would work on his advantage if they will be in a bubble once again.

PBA should do a bubble and not think if it's profitable or not because this time is not normal and thinking of profit is too selfish for them.

There is an ongoing "bubble" league happening in Cebu, a small organization so i think PBA holding a bubble would not be problem even if there is no vaccine yet.

I wish for his full recovery as SMB will not be the same without him.

BGSM are getting ready, they have 2 big man who can limit JMF, a healthy Fajardo is really a monster, however, how healthy he is when he come back?

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April 12, 2021, 02:04:33 PM
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Yes, it's the easiest way to follow since they have done this before in the same situation, however, people are more aware now so there wouldn't be no more major problem if they'll do the bubble one more time.
Yeah right, people are more aware so setting aother bubble set up would not be a problem, fans will embrace this setup especiall
those who are really longing to see there idols playing once again.

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This bubble could also be different as we are not only talking of one conference here, maybe the same conference but I'm hopefully it will not all end in a bubble set up.

Getting your point. If in case the quarantine got lifted maybe PBA have an alternative plans to proceed, it's also good to see just in case
this virus already been contained, seeing live games is very likely for most fanatics.

 

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April 12, 2021, 08:32:11 PM
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Players and coaches are willing, so most likely we will see a PBA bubble soon, we are just waiting for the formal announcement.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/tim-cone-willing-to-go-through-another-mentally-wearing-pba-bubble-a795-20210411?ref=feed_1_section
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Cone willing to go through another 'mentally wearing' PBA bubble
He should be willing because he was successful last bubble, and since Fajardo has not fully recovered yet, I'm guessing Ginebra will again win in this set up.
Yeah, just a formal announcement, and all of our expectations and speculations would be filled by that one huge announcement. Everyone agrees with the bubble setup because it's the best idea that they can do these days.
They're in a very situational event and it's still timely to do it, they don't have to imitate the NBA that most of them are back to their own courts because the situation is different and they've got more vaccines than us.
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