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All of a sudden they are now fumbling. They should have just let Messi go and got whatever Millions of Euros they expected from his transfer instead of making the move impossible through courts of law. -snip-
exactly, even they need messi int the field, but with current clubs conditions, selling messi with some million euros will help the club survive. Next year he will also become free agent. @AakZaki, its because of Guardiola factor, of course his age may old enough. but, if Messi join City, Pep can maximized his playing style The club want to show how jerk are they to the world. And i think barcelona successfully make it happened, everybody around the world now feel sorry to messi and feel hatred to barcelona well well well. The best revenge is by moving to rival , not real madrid it is impossible but atletico madrid to join his best friend luis suarez. We will see this to come.
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October 09, 2020, 10:33:41 AM |
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The club want to show how jerk are they to the world. And i think barcelona successfully make it happened, everybody around the world now feel sorry to messi and feel hatred to barcelona well well well. The best revenge is by moving to rival , not real madrid it is impossible but atletico madrid to join his best friend luis suarez. We will see this to come.
Luis could make a change in the team which he's joining and it could be more advantage if he can get another support of a good player too in football. Seeing his record as a striker and able to win 6 trophies in different leaue and had even make 400+ career goals is an exemplary achievement that a football player could make. Yeah I agree with you to wait and see what will going to happen with Messi if he will going to join in other team the atletico madrid. Probably Barcelona will going to taste their own medicine and will make regrets for letting this to happen.
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October 09, 2020, 10:42:54 AM |
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The club want to show how jerk are they to the world. And i think barcelona successfully make it happened, everybody around the world now feel sorry to messi and feel hatred to barcelona well well well. The best revenge is by moving to rival , not real madrid it is impossible but atletico madrid to join his best friend luis suarez. We will see this to come.
It's just that we will never see Messi betray Barcelona, which has made his name in the world. I don't think he will leave and become an enemy for Barcelona for another club. If that happens, I can't imagine what his emotional situation on the pitch would be against Barcelona.
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October 09, 2020, 12:17:07 PM |
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The club want to show how jerk are they to the world. And i think barcelona successfully make it happened, everybody around the world now feel sorry to messi and feel hatred to barcelona well well well. The best revenge is by moving to rival , not real madrid it is impossible but atletico madrid to join his best friend luis suarez. We will see this to come.
It's just that we will never see Messi betray Barcelona, which has made his name in the world. I don't think he will leave and become an enemy for Barcelona for another club. If that happens, I can't imagine what his emotional situation on the pitch would be against Barcelona. The same was once said about Ronaldo, who "would never betray Real", because he was club captain! Although personally I also think that Messi will not leave! However, in modern football everything is solved by huge amounts of money!
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October 09, 2020, 12:30:02 PM |
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The club want to show how jerk are they to the world. And i think barcelona successfully make it happened, everybody around the world now feel sorry to messi and feel hatred to barcelona well well well. The best revenge is by moving to rival , not real madrid it is impossible but atletico madrid to join his best friend luis suarez. We will see this to come.
It's just that we will never see Messi betray Barcelona, which has made his name in the world. I don't think he will leave and become an enemy for Barcelona for another club. If that happens, I can't imagine what his emotional situation on the pitch would be against Barcelona. The same was once said about Ronaldo, who "would never betray Real", because he was club captain! Although personally I also think that Messi will not leave! However, in modern football everything is solved by huge amounts of money! There is nothing as betrayal on changing teams in club football. Club football is a commercial platform where transfers are regulated. Ronaldo is a Portuguese, he was just an employee of Real Madrid. He went to another club legally for his own benefit. Messi too don't necessary be involved with Barcelona forever, tough he joined the team in his early age, it was not Barcelona that picked him up and made his life. He was already a promising player before he decided to give a trail for Barcelona. Messi is a much humble player and he didn't wanted any negative image for himself and the club he served. He wanted to leave the club but decided not to fight Barcelona in court.
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October 09, 2020, 02:43:53 PM |
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It's just that we will never see Messi betray Barcelona, which has made his name in the world. I don't think he will leave and become an enemy for Barcelona for another club. If that happens, I can't imagine what his emotional situation on the pitch would be against Barcelona.
Everything still happens, Messi not extended his contract till today, it's mean Messi can go anywhere on the next summer window. And yes, Barcelona doesn't want Messi leave their club, and they are have a plans to replace current President. Referendum on the way, Bartomeu need to gain minimum 15.000 votes to be on the safe place as Barcelona president, if he get less than 12.000 votes he will lose. His problem with Messi can be a factor that made him will lose. New president, maybe Messi will stay.
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Everything still happens, Messi not extended his contract till today, it's mean Messi can go anywhere on the next summer window. And yes, Barcelona doesn't want Messi leave their club, and they are have a plans to replace current President. Referendum on the way, Bartomeu need to gain minimum 15.000 votes to be on the safe place as Barcelona president, if he get less than 12.000 votes he will lose. His problem with Messi can be a factor that made him will lose. New president, maybe Messi will stay.
Messi won't change his decision and sign a new contract too soon. He love Barcelona and he can stay in Barcelona with a new contract but it will only happen at the end of this season if he feels happy with new manager (Koeman), this season results and future plans from the board (or new President). He is not happy in the club and smart enough to not fall into trap of the board again. Nine more months and he will be free.
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October 09, 2020, 03:19:56 PM Last edit: October 09, 2020, 03:40:53 PM by Swordsoffreedom |
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Everything still happens, Messi not extended his contract till today, it's mean Messi can go anywhere on the next summer window. And yes, Barcelona doesn't want Messi leave their club, and they are have a plans to replace current President. Referendum on the way, Bartomeu need to gain minimum 15.000 votes to be on the safe place as Barcelona president, if he get less than 12.000 votes he will lose. His problem with Messi can be a factor that made him will lose. New president, maybe Messi will stay.
Messi won't change his decision and sign a new contract too soon. He love Barcelona and he can stay in Barcelona with a new contract but it will only happen at the end of this season if he feels happy with new manager (Koeman), this season results and future plans from the board (or new President). He is not happy in the club and smart enough to not fall into trap of the board again. Nine more months and he will be free. I think Messi will make his decision based on Barcelona's performance this season. Messi will be stay in Barcelona next season if Koeman can do something good with this team. Messi's career is almost over. I think, now his only goal is champion league's title. Stay calm until next season. Koeman is a skilled coach. See how far he can take the Barcelona team forward.
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October 09, 2020, 03:38:08 PM |
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Messi's career is almost over
Some players whole careers cannot be compared to 1 year of Messi's career, although I am not a big fan of him but that's the truth and Messi career isn't almost over. I am pretty sure he can keep playing for another 5 years as he used to do before. The question is whether Messi will end his career in Barcelona, if koeman succeeded, or not.
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October 09, 2020, 03:39:37 PM |
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However, in modern football everything is solved by huge amounts of money!
I know in modern football anything can still happen and that's only because of money. However, I believe Messi would not do that for money and that is due to other factor such as his dissatisfaction with the club's management. Everything still happens, Messi not extended his contract till today, it's mean Messi can go anywhere on the next summer window. And yes, Barcelona doesn't want Messi leave their club, and they are have a plans to replace current President. Referendum on the way, Bartomeu need to gain minimum 15.000 votes to be on the safe place as Barcelona president, if he get less than 12.000 votes he will lose. His problem with Messi can be a factor that made him will lose. New president, maybe Messi will stay.
Messi has a huge influence at the club and it is not uncommon for many of his wishes to be fulfilled. On several occasion he has put pressure on the club quite often in making choices such as player recruitment and other policies and now it look like he is also putting pressure on the club to replace its president with a new president. The contract, which has not yet been extended, is a way for the club to act quickly if it is to maintain it as a club icon in modern football history.
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Atletico Madrid has a goal to win the Champions League. They have won the La Liga once before, and in the Champions League they have always stopped short of success. Atlético is not strong enough to play on two fronts and they have to choose.
I agree that they have added more quality and certainly more depth to their squad and there are 2 of my countryman there too, but I don't see them as favorites to win the Champions league. If they get some lucky draw and some circumstances go in their favor, like no injuries they do have the potential though. if they focus on the Champions League, then they have all the chances to perform well. They now have a more balanced squad than last year, and Suarez can help them a lot in this regard.
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But why is not in the poll the Athletic Club? Sevilla, Valencia, why not Bilbao? ok, I'm being a big subjective here, but in fact it is not so difficult to create a poll with all the teams or, at least, the first 10 with the most possibilities of winning. I'm quite an adventurer, so my vote is for the Athletic ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) In fact, it may still win the Cup "Copa del Rey" this year, why not the Liga?
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But why is not in the poll the Athletic Club? Sevilla, Valencia, why not Bilbao? ok, I'm being a big subjective here, but in fact it is not so difficult to create a poll with all the teams or, at least, the first 10 with the most possibilities of winning. I'm quite an adventurer, so my vote is for the Athletic ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) In fact, it may still win the Cup "Copa del Rey" this year, why not the Liga? If you are really sure about Bibeo why not put a little bet on them? Lol Arsenal won the FA cup last season and yet we're only expecting them to finish above 10th
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October 10, 2020, 11:17:25 PM |
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Messi will be stay in Barcelona next season if Koeman can do something good with this team.
It is too early to say he will stay. Even Koeman can make Barcelona to win the La Liga trophy or champions league, Messi may have his own goal for his career in the future. Who knows if he wants to play in Argentina. I am not surprised if he wants to leave Barcelona whereas Barcelona can have a good result this season. Messi has stayed in Barcelona for many years, he may want another challenge in another country. Messi's career is almost over. I think, now his only goal is champion league's title.
Does he state that the only goal for him is the Champions League trophy now? I didn't hear yet that he stated about it. It is true that the Champions League trophy is the most prestigious title. But how he wants a specific goal like that? He already won it many times, so I don't think he is very eager to win it.
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38 years old Bilbao legend Adurit won game for Bilbao by scoring goal of the season. It's f*cking amazing. Today I can't recognize Barcelona. They played low quality football without nothing dangerous in attack. Griezmann was too passive and he just waited till someone will pass him ball. Rafinha probably was best player on the pitch tonight and shows that something is wrong with current Barcelona.
That's like the Barcelona game without Messi, just an ordinary game. The game is far from the previous Barcelona which was very aggressive in every match. Bilbao broke many people's predictions (including mine) In last 6 games without Messi, Barcelona has 4 losses and 2 draws. So actually this result is not a huge surprise, rest of the team simply don't know what to do when he is not on the pitch, no plan at all. In the other news, Hazard got injured during training and he might be off the pitch for a couple of weeks. Big hit for Real Madrid Eden Hazard suffers thigh injury in trainingHazard dream is becoming a nightmare I feel for him he missed just 25 games to injury in 7 years with Chelsea but has already missed 38 games in 1 year and half with Real Madrid. The beginning of the end
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Messi will be stay in Barcelona next season if Koeman can do something good with this team.
Even Koeman can make Barcelona to win the La Liga trophy or champions league, Yeah, I hope so. Koeman is very skilled coach we have seen his great coaching performance before. But this time La Liga will be very competitive. Atletico Madrid is very good team in this time. I am not surprised if he wants to leave Barcelona whereas Barcelona can have a good result this season.
Messi's conflict with the club Barcelona is growing day by day. I don't think Messi is interested in staying Barcelona anymore. His one of the close friend Suarez has left Barcelona, Messi is also a bit upset with the club (from his Instagram post) Messi has stayed in Barcelona for many years, he may want another challenge in another country.
Do you really think Messi has enough time to challenge for a new club? If Messi goes to Man City next season, there is Pep Guardiola. I’m hopeful that he will do better then. Because he has previous experience with Pep and their relationship is sweet. Messi's career is almost over. I think, now his only goal is champion league's title.
Does he state that the only goal for him is the Champions League trophy now? I didn't hear yet that he stated about it. It is true that the Champions League trophy is the most prestigious title. But how he wants a specific goal like that? He already won it many times, so I don't think he is very eager to win it. No Messi didn't state that. But you mentioned that it is the prestigious title. So, don't you think Messi would like to win one more CL title at the end of his career to go on to become one of the greatest players of all time? I think his goal is to win the World Cup for Argentina. (it is my personal opinion, don't think that Messi said that on media)
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Messi will be stay in Barcelona next season if Koeman can do something good with this team.
Even Koeman can make Barcelona to win the La Liga trophy or champions league, Yeah , I hope so . Koeman is very skilled coach we have seen his great coaching performance before. But this time La Liga will be very competitive . Athletico Madrid is very good team in this time. I am not surprised if he wants to leave Barcelona whereas Barcelona can have a good result this season. Messi's conflict with the club Barcelona is growing day by day. I don't think Messi is interested in staying Barcelona anymore .His one of the close friend Suarez has left Barcelona , Messi is also a bit upset with the club (from his Instagram post) Messi has stayed in Barcelona for many years, he may want another challenge in another country. Do you really think Messi has enough time to challenge for a new club? If Messi goes to Man City next season , there is Pep Guardiola.I'm hopeful that he will do better then .Because he has previous experience with Pep and their relationship is sweet . Messi's career is almost over. I think, now his only goal is champion league's title. Does he state that the only goal for him is the Champions League trophy now? I didn't hear yet that he stated about it. It is true that the Champions League trophy is the most prestigious title. But how he wants a specific goal like that? He already won it many times, so I don't think he is very eager to win it.
No Messi didn't state that . But , you mentioned that it is the prestigious title . So don't you think Messi would like to win one more CL title at the end of his career to go on to become one of the gretest player of all time ? I think his goal is to win the World Cup for Argentina . ( it is my personal opinion , don't think that Messi said that on media) Messi is already a god, WorldCup or not there's nothing else to prove to the world he has done the possible and impossible
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~ Messi is already a god, WorldCup or not there's nothing else to prove to the world he has done the possible and impossible
Did you ever hear the name " PELE”? A living legend. One of the great players in history. There are a lot of people who still think Pele is still the best player in history. He has won many titles including World Cup. He had extraordinary talent and skill. Yet we now consider Messi or CR7 to be the best in history. Yeah Messi is the G.O.A.T. But if he can't win more title then our next generation will probably forget Messi and think someone else as the God of Football.
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~ Messi is already a god, WorldCup or not there's nothing else to prove to the world he has done the possible and impossible
Did you ever hear the name " PELE”? A living legend. One of the great players in history. There are a lot of people who still think Pele is still the best player in history. He has won many titles including World Cup. He had extraordinary talent and skill. Yet we now consider Messi or CR7 to be the best in history. Yeah Messi is the G.O.A.T. But if he can't win more title then our next generation will probably forget Messi and think someone else as the God of Football. Of course we heard about Pele. Have you heard of Maradona? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I’ve heard that for the average Argentine, Maradona is a bigger player than Messi because he brought them the 1986 World Cup title. It’s really hard to compare players from different time periods because a lot has changed in football over history. Can only titles won be a criterion for choosing the best footballer? This means that a footballer from a weaker nation could never be the best footballer which would not be fair. On the other hand, can only footballers who score goals be chosen as the best footballers? Isn’t that an injustice to defensive players or goalkeepers? No matter how many more titles he wins, Messi is the best footballer of this time period and beyond that we really don’t need to go.
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October 11, 2020, 07:19:53 AM |
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~ Messi is already a god, WorldCup or not there's nothing else to prove to the world he has done the possible and impossible
Did you ever hear the name " PELE”? A living legend. One of the great players in history. There are a lot of people who still think Pele is still the best player in history. He has won many titles including World Cup. He had extraordinary talent and skill. Yet we now consider Messi or CR7 to be the best in history. Yeah Messi is the G.O.A.T. But if he can't win more title then our next generation will probably forget Messi and think someone else as the God of Football. If messi and Ronaldo could score all these goals with with an offside rules then it is time to crown 👑one of them the greatest, no disrespect to pele but he scored all those goals standing in the oponnent box without offside rules.
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