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December 20, 2014, 04:46:07 AM
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CrossTalk : Empire of Chaos Pepe Escobar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM8i1BOdcys

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December 20, 2014, 09:12:21 AM
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Fuck bankers  Smiley
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December 20, 2014, 10:22:15 PM
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City of Gorlovka was shelled by the Ukrainian punishers today after many days of relative quiet. A 9-year-old girl was killed as the result of a mortar shell explosion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dVLGpSFTwrQ



Each day of the military terroristic operation costs Kiev 6 million dollars (according to Poroshenko), yet the spending on the massacre of the Ukrainian population will be increased (from where?)



Head of DNR ended up on Obama's personal "hate list" - list of sanctions, yet he invites Obama to visit DNR and to see everything for himself. Smiley



Closing of Zaporozje airport for civilian traffic is prolonged until 24th. Seems like Uncle Sam is sending more Christmas-tanks and jingle-grenades to Ukrainian punishers to distribute to the children of Donbass.

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“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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December 21, 2014, 12:35:54 PM
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TIME TO LAUGH Cheesy


Nobody respects the bankrupt Western powers anymore. And this came from the part where the bankrupt EU was hoping where their gas would pass  Cheesy

I told you the endgame is at hand



Erdogan tells EU to 'mind own business'  Cheesy Cheesy


www.dawn.com/news/1151034


Cheesy
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December 21, 2014, 12:46:07 PM
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TIME TO LAUGH Cheesy

Nobody respects the bankrupt Western powers anymore. And this came from the part where the bankrupt EU was hoping where their gas would pass  Cheesy

I told you the endgame is at hand

Erdogan tells EU to 'mind own business'  Cheesy Cheesy
www.dawn.com/news/1151034
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The European Union led the criticism with EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini and Enlargement Commissioner Johannes Hahn condemning the raids as “incompatible with the freedom of media”.

Yep, because kicking an Italian journalist out of Estonia, or torturing Russian journalists in Ukraine clearly represents EU valuing the freedom of press. Erdogan is right to telling EU off.



Apropos Russian journalists. Russian Investigation Committee opened a criminal investigation against head of Ukrainian SBU, Nalivajchenko, accusing him of torture and pressuring of Russian journalists as well as torture of Ukrainian people. Under the international anti-torture agreement Russia (as any other country that have ratified such agreement) MUST investigate cases of torture in other countries, if said countries fail to presecute torture themselves.

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You know there are a lot of people who are tired of those damned Belgians. Belgians stopped the South Stream project by sabotaging it. Currently the Belgians are driving German economy to ruin. This damned Belgian Angela Merkel is not hearing her own business circles in Germany. Oh, and Belgian Francois Hollande, despite the French best interests, killed its ship-building industry. Yes, Belgians are evil. Many Europeans are spreading the blame all over Brussels now.

Oh, and show me countries that are newly rushing to join NATO, where either a colour revolution or a substantial buying off of the politicians by US was not needed first.

Your statement is exactly the reason why you should differentiate between Russia and Soviet Union. Under Soviet Union, Russia was an occupied country, itself a victim. During coup d'etat of 1917 Russia was essentially hijacked, anyone who resisted killed off (much like today in Ukraine - anyone against forced Westernasation now falls victim of lustration), and the state and its structure destroyed. Russia (RSFSR) had the least say in running of USSR, and its territories were treated as private property of the USSR leaders, to be given away at a whim (Novorossia, South Ossetia, Crimea). If USSR's capital were in Kiev, would you be blaming Ukrainians, and if in Tbilisi, would Georgians be the bad guys today?

.... Here, in bold, sorry but you just said enormous bullshits:
 you moralized "dont blame people for their government action" but:
                    -You blamed Belgians for their government action
                    -Belgians government never did what you say:
                       1. Obviously because of the 2 government crisis (2007-2008, 2010-2011) and Belgium is a tiny country in Europe (Belgium:11,116,243 inhabitants, Europe Union:507,416,607),
                       2. googling too quickly, you saw Brussels and you stated "damn Belgian" whereas you should read "Brussels" which refers to, by metonymy, the European institutions.
                       3. François Hollande is French.

Now here is some facts, which can be discussed too Wink : On 17 April 2014, amid the 2014 pro-Russian conflict in Ukraine, the European Parliament adopted a non-binding resolution opposing the South Stream gas pipeline and recommending a search for alternative sources of gas supplies for the European Union. On 29 April 2014 a memorandum on the implementation of the Austrian section was signed in Moscow. Commissioning of the Austrian section is scheduled by January 2018. In June 2014, Bulgaria temporarily stopped construction due to the European Commission's infringement procedure against Bulgaria for non-compliance with European rules on energy competition public procurements.

In April 2014 Russia filed a complaint at the World Trade Organization against the European Union's energy market laws that were enacted in 2009, claiming that they violate international rules. These laws ban suppliers from owning transit facilities such as gas pipelines, and would force Gazprom to allow third-party gas producers to use the South Stream pipeline.

On 1 December 2014, during a state visit to Turkey, president Putin announced that Russia was withdrawing from the project, blaming Western sanctions and lack of construction permits in the territory of the European Union.

The Nabucco project is backed by the European Union and the United States. An objective of the project is to connect the European Union better to the natural gas sources in the Caspian Sea and the Middle East regions. The project has been driven by the intention to diversify its current energy supplies, and to lessen European dependence on Russian energy (the biggest gas supplier for Europe.
The Russia/Ukraine gas disputes have been one of the factors driving the search for alternative suppliers, sources, and routes. Moreover, as per the European Commission, Europe's gas consumption is expected to increase from 502 billion cubic metres, in 2005, to 815 billion cubic metres in 2030, which would mean Russia alone would not be able to meet the demand.

E=(ɔ)mc²
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December 21, 2014, 06:42:05 PM
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Alexandr Gelyevich Dugin (Russian: Aлeкcáндp Гéльeвич Дýгин, Moscow, 7th January 1962) is a Russian philosopher and political scientist known for his fascist views.[3][4][5][6][7] He has two PhDs (Sociology and Philosophy) from NGMA University in Rostov Oblast and is known for his Fourth Political Theory and the Theory of the Multipolar World. He has close ties with the Kremlin and the Russian military,[8] serving as an advisor to State Duma speaker (and key member of the ruling United Russia party) Sergei Naryshkin.[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Dugin

The Foundations of Geopolitics: The Geopolitical Future of Russia is a geopolitical book by Alexander Dugin. The book has had a large influence within the Russian military, police, and statist foreign policy elites[1] and is used as a textbook in the General Staff Academy of Russian military.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

The book declares that "the battle for the world rule of [ethnic] Russians" has not ended and Russia remains "the staging area of a new anti-bourgeois, anti-American revolution." The Eurasian Empire will be constructed "on the fundamental principle of the common enemy: the rejection of Atlanticism, strategic control of the USA, and the refusal to allow liberal values to dominate us."[1]

Military operations play relatively little role. The textbook believes in a sophisticated program of subversion, destabilization, and disinformation spearheaded by the Russian special services. The operations should be assisted by a tough, hard-headed utilization of Russia's gas, oil, and natural resources to bully and pressure other countries.[1]

The book states that "the maximum task [of the future] is the 'Finlandization' of all of Europe".
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December 21, 2014, 07:14:29 PM
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Alexandr Gelyevich Dugin (Russian: Aлeкcáндp Гéльeвич Дýгин, Moscow, 7th January 1962) is a Russian philosopher and political scientist known for his fascist views.
Maybe it depends on point of view, but Eurasianism != Fascism.
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December 21, 2014, 08:57:40 PM
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You know there are a lot of people who are tired of those damned Belgians. Belgians stopped the South Stream project by sabotaging it. Currently the Belgians are driving German economy to ruin. This damned Belgian Angela Merkel is not hearing her own business circles in Germany. Oh, and Belgian Francois Hollande, despite the French best interests, killed its ship-building industry. Yes, Belgians are evil. Many Europeans are spreading the blame all over Brussels now.

Oh, and show me countries that are newly rushing to join NATO, where either a colour revolution or a substantial buying off of the politicians by US was not needed first.

Your statement is exactly the reason why you should differentiate between Russia and Soviet Union. Under Soviet Union, Russia was an occupied country, itself a victim. During coup d'etat of 1917 Russia was essentially hijacked, anyone who resisted killed off (much like today in Ukraine - anyone against forced Westernasation now falls victim of lustration), and the state and its structure destroyed. Russia (RSFSR) had the least say in running of USSR, and its territories were treated as private property of the USSR leaders, to be given away at a whim (Novorossia, South Ossetia, Crimea). If USSR's capital were in Kiev, would you be blaming Ukrainians, and if in Tbilisi, would Georgians be the bad guys today?

.... Here, in bold, sorry but you just said enormous bullshits:
 you moralized "dont blame people for their government action" but:
                    -You blamed Belgians for their government action
                    -Belgians government never did what you say:
                       1. Obviously because of the 2 government crisis (2007-2008, 2010-2011) and Belgium is a tiny country in Europe (Belgium:11,116,243 inhabitants, Europe Union:507,416,607),
                       2. googling too quickly, you saw Brussels and you stated "damn Belgian" whereas you should read "Brussels" which refers to, by metonymy, the European institutions.
                       3. François Hollande is French.

Don't tell me there is another person, who can't read and cannot understand analogies?!  Shocked

Again, for the uneducated in reading: I presented Belgians in the context of EU in comparison to Russians in the context of USSR - just because the HQ of one organisation is in Brussels and of the other was in Moscow. My point in saying that François Hollande is Belgian: François Hollande is as Belgian as Stalin was Russian.

Learn to read sarcasm.



Alexandr Gelyevich Dugin (Russian: Aлeкcáндp Гéльeвич Дýгин, Moscow, 7th January 1962) is a Russian philosopher and political scientist known for his fascist views.
Maybe it depends on point of view, but Eurasianism != Fascism.

This guy found a convenient toy to troll with - he posted the same thing in the other thread on sanctions...



The 10th humanitarian aid column from Russia, consisting of 150 trucks, delivered its cargo to Lugansk and Donetsk today. 50 tonnes were New Year presents, prepared by children from all over Russian Federation to the children of Donbass.

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December 25, 2014, 01:07:55 AM
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MERRY CHRISTMAS, FOLKS...

IT'S THE TIME TO LAUGH  Wink



RUSSIAN GAMBIT: Grandmaster Putin Checkmates the Bankrupt West & Other Hilarious Eurasian Tales


http://asiatikistic.blogspot.com/2014/12/homestretch-checkmark-and-other.html



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December 25, 2014, 01:14:38 AM
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Well, with the Crimea and Donetsk gone there really isn´t that

much left worth stealing in the Ukraine which explains the

western Mob´s fast diminishing interest.

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December 25, 2014, 12:04:16 PM
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Bad news for the Ukrainian nazi punisher troops: Russia may officially deploy peacekeepers forces in Donbass:
http://versia.ru/articles/2014/dec/23/rossiya-oficialno-vojdjot-na-donbass
This may be the result of the recent talks between Poroshenko and Lukashenko/Nazarbaev. The agreement seems to be signed and verified by OSCE.


Scratch that. Looks like Russia decided to continue staying out of the West-created fiasco in Ukraine after all:
http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1672389



By the way, Lavrov said yesterday that Russia is still the only country that sustains Ukraine economically. EU/US continue to feed Ukraine with promises of money and real weapon deliveries.



Head of DNR, Zaharchenko, said that they expect Kiev to make a large scale offensive once NATO deliveries (using Hercules transport planes) of weapons to the Ukro-Nazis is finished.

http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1671970

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December 25, 2014, 12:13:51 PM
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I wish I could find reports on how the planting of the fields

went this year in the Ukraine. Not that it should be that much

of a problem if it flopped since the U.S. and the E.U. are so

eminently well positioned financially to underwrite Ukraininan

agriculture.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGsCM1dANKw
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Descendants of the White Emigration Against Russophobia in Western MSM
http://stanislavs.org/descendants-of-the-white-emigration-against-russophobia-in-western-msm/

The above link for more information.
Letter in Russian: http://www.russkymost.net/spip.php?article71
Letter in French: http://www.russkymost.net/spip.php?article70
The letter and interview with Prince Shakhovskoy: http://www.rg.ru/2014/12/25/pismo.html

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For almost a year, the Ukrainian events were of deep concern to of us, the descendants of white emigration, especially since in contrast to the people around us, we, due of our origin, have access to comprehensive information. Knowledge of the recent past, namely the past of the pre-revolutionary Russia, gives us the opportunity, and with it the duty, to expose the obvious historical falsifications that led to the current drama in Ukraine. In the face of heightened tensions in the Donbass as well as in the international relations we come to a conclusion is that the aggressive hostility, unfolding now against Russia is devoid of any rationality. The policy of double standards is above any limits.

Russia is accused of all crimes, without a priori evidence it is declared guilty, while other countries are shown an amazing lenience, in particular with regard to observing human rights.

We in no way refuse to protect those values upon which our ancestors brought us up, doomed to exile after the 1917 revolution. We do not refuse neither the condemnation of the criminal acts of the Bolsheviks and their successors, nor restoring of the historical truth about that terrible time. But this does not mean that we can put up with with the slander that daily falls on modern Russia, its leadership and its president, which is sanctioned and gets dirt thrown at it, contrary to elementary common sense. This self-destructive for the European countries ridiculous idea prompts to serious thought all those, who see in it the desire of the West to rather prevent the development of Russia, than to settle the crisis in Ukraine. Especially ridiculous are the systematic attack on everything, that is somehow related to the “Russian world”: we are talking about the historical, geographical, linguistic, cultural and spiritual realities of the great civilization that has enriched the world and that we are rightfully proud of. We also resent the shameful silence of the European official institutions and the media with regard to the brutal bombing that Ukrainian army, supported by military groups under Nazi symbols, pours in Donbass on civilians and civilian infrastructure. Such silence is perceived by the Kiev authorities as providing them with full right to continue killing and destruction. For months, children and old people are killed or seriously injured, and prisoners are tortured. And now the Kiev government has in addition introduced a complete blockage (gas, electricity, railways, pensions, salaries, medication, institutions, hospitals, etc.), to finally destroy the region, which al the while it declares to be an integral part of its territory. And how not to condemn violent acts committed by the supporters of Kiev in relation to the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine?! Priests are persecuted, forced to flee and even killed; fifty temples have been bombed, of which twenty were completely destroyed; believers are persecuted. Where are the European values?

We can not put up with the daily slander against modern Russia that is falling upon us.

Despite the complete rejection of the Soviet Union, our fathers and grandfathers greatly grieved the suffering endured by the Russian people during World War II. In turn, we will not stay as indifferent and silent witnesses in the face of the systematic destruction of the population of Donbass, blatant Russophobia and hypocritical approaches, completely contrary to the interests of our beloved Europe. We really want to hope that the countries that once gave shelter to our families, will again take the path of prudence and impartiality.

Paris, November 26, 2014
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This letter is compiled by the Prince and Princess Dimitri and Tamara Shahovskaya, with the initiative being supported by the group “Russian Bridge”, established in February 2011 by the descendants of white emigration.

Published online on November 26, 2014, this letter was supported by more than one hundred representatives of princely and aristocratic families from different countries. Every day, more and more letters of “solidarity with Russia in the hour of the Ukrainian tragedy” come to e-mail solidairesdelarussie@gmail.com

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December 26, 2014, 10:39:28 PM
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Well, since the western mob is openly supporting nazis in the Ukraine

they´ve given up on painting Putin as the new Hitler. Which is the favorite

advertising label for those who don´t comply with the interests of the

mob´s corporate sponsors.


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December 27, 2014, 12:55:06 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vglgaE54UZ0

Lol, I wonder to see something similar with Obama or Cameron Cheesy
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December 27, 2014, 01:06:12 AM
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Selling ‘Peace Groups’ on US-Led Wars

December 25, 2014

Since the anti-war protests on Vietnam, the U.S. government has made “perception management” of the American people a high priority, feeding them a steady diet of propaganda about foreign crises, even getting “peace groups” to buy into “pro-democracy” wars, write Margaret Sarfehjooy and Coleen Rowley.

https://consortiumnews.com/2014/12/25/selling-peace-groups-on-us-led-wars/

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