⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024

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At this point, I think it is almost impossible for Arsenal to win the league.
City has 2 fewer games played and they can go +3 on the leaderboard if they will win both games.

I can't see 2 teams be able to beat them, yes they can lose focus for the incoming champions league, but...

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[JollyGood]

Back when Abramovich was the Chelsea owner, he would regularly fire managers every season or two and the squad's performance has stayed mostly intact for most of his tenure. So clearly, the manager run-in is not the problem. The problem is with the players that are chosen to start together. Chelsea plays a 3-4-2-1 so if you're not starting players who are good in that system, of course shit will hit the fan.

Chelsea have had that many starting formations over the past season that we all have lost count. They brought in too many players during the time the new owners came in and I think it backfired. The new owners won over the fans by splashing the cash and showing their intent but is all simply backfired. Owners bringing in players without the consent or advice of the manager is a recipe for disaster and that is why they pushed Tuchel out. Sacking Tuchel did not help even though many of the players gave up on playing for him.

I see people blaming it on the lack of strikers, the lack of a good defense and stuff like that. And that's horseshit because they've signed good players like Mudryk, Koulibaly, Felix, hell even Gallagher is good as long as you play him properly. You can't just buy anyone you like and expect them to just fit in the system.

The system definitely is/was flawed but good players always find a way to at least to an acceptable level. I cannot foot all the blame with Potter because in the end the players go out there and perform but Potter was never the right man for the job, the club was too big for him and his lack of experience showed.

Felix and Mudryk, they have not really performed but you can put it down to the moving to a new country and new league but they cannot have an excuse next season.

A complete and total breakdown of tactical play is why they are struggling to win games big time, and I don't see that just changing overnight next season. Which is bad for them, because they risk becoming another Spurs.

They have to sell most of the excess squad and get back to basics. Once their new manager is announced (and it looks like Todd Boehly has managed to talk Mauricio Pochettino in to becoming their manager and they have a verbal agreement), things will change. If the rumours are true, they will make a bid to buy Kane from his ex-club Tottenham.

[ILuckyGuyI]

The remaining games for Arsenal are like these:

- Chelsea (H)
- Newcastle (A)
- Brighton (H)
- Nottingham (A)
- Wolves (H)

Technically all of the games are quite winnable except the one against Newcastle. Because Newcastle are in a very solid shape these days. They started to obtain very big victories when we take their last five league games into account. Arsenal couldn't win against them in Emirates either. This makes me think like Arsenal are quite probable to have a point loss in this one.

However even if Arsenal win all of the rest of their games it is still too difficult for them to win the PL title indeed. Manchester City don't have any concentration issues while competing for 2 big titles at the same time - PL and CL. Their having 2 missing games is making things easier for them to take the lead soon. I will still be appreciating Arsenal's huge effort and it'll be lovely to watch them in the CL next season.

[JollyGood]

These are the games taking place today:

Crystal Palace vs West Ham United
Brentford vs Nottingham Forest
Brighton and Hove Albion vs Wolverhampton Wanderers

If Brentford and Brighton win today they will both remain in the hunt for a Europa League position and that is very good progress considering the clubs are relatively small in comparison to the Premier League giants. As for West Ham, they continue to pull away from the relegation zone and also Crystal Palace have improved immensely since they sacked their manager Vieira.

The remaining games for Arsenal are like these:

- Chelsea (H)
- Newcastle (A)
- Brighton (H)
- Nottingham (A)
- Wolves (H)

Technically all of the games are quite winnable except the one against Newcastle. Because Newcastle are in a very solid shape these days. They started to obtain very big victories when we take their last five league games into account. Arsenal couldn't win against them in Emirates either. This makes me think like Arsenal are quite probable to have a point loss in this one.

However even if Arsenal win all of the rest of their games it is still too difficult for them to win the PL title indeed. Manchester City don't have any concentration issues while competing for 2 big titles at the same time - PL and CL. Their having 2 missing games is making things easier for them to take the lead soon. I will still be appreciating Arsenal's huge effort and it'll be lovely to watch them in the CL next season.

Arsenal had the chance to take the Premier League title, maybe they still can do it Manchester City slip up. They dropped too many points recently as they felt the pressure and basically could not handle it.

I expect Newcastle United to beat Arsenal but do expect them to also drop points against Brighton too.

[JollyGood]

These are the results from the games played today:

Bournemouth 4-1 Leeds United 
Fulham 1-2 Manchester City 
Manchester United 1-0 Aston Villa 
Newcastle United 3-1 Southampton
Liverpool 4-3 Tottenham Hotspur

Things seem to go from bad to worse for Tottenham whereas Liverpool are making a late push to at least qualify for the Europa League by trying to finish 5th at the end of the season. They moved up to 5th now but if Brighton win their games in hand they will push Liverpool down to 6th.

Manchester City overcame Fulham and are now sitting a point clear at the top of the Premier League and also have one game in hand, they are overwhelming favourites to be crowned Champions again. Newcastle United and Manchester United ended up winning their games continue to chase a 3rd place finish to the season.

These are the results from the games played yesterday:

Crystal Palace 4-3 West Ham United
Brentford 2-1 Nottingham Forest
Brighton and Hove Albion 6-0 Wolverhampton Wanderers

[emrecemsan]

Manchester City's winning against Fulham and taking the lead can create some pressure over Arsenal players' shoulders a little. But Arsenal just can't go on like this until the end of the season. They have made pretty amateurish mistakes on the recent weeks and risked their championship a lot. I don't even see them making it to the title anymore after losing to Manchester City as well.

But at least it must be time to finish this winless streak by their upcoming fixture. It is a home match against Chelsea. We all know how bad Chelsea are now. They have completely given up this season already and it has been a long time since they got their last win in the Premier League. They couldn't even score a goal in most of their recent matches. Arsenal don't have scoring issues while there are weaknesses in defense. But still I expect nothing different than an Arsenal win in this match. 

[JollyGood]

What on earth is going on at Tottenham. They were losing 3-0 after 15 minutes but made the score 3-3 during time added on but as soon as they equalised, Liverpool came back and scored a fourth goal in the 90th + 4 minute to win the game 4-3. That loss must have hurt badly.

As for Manchester City they soaked up the pressure and put it back on Arsenal. If Chelsea cause problems for Arsenal when they meet on Tuesday and they end up with a loss or draw then you would expect Manchester City to increase their lead at the top of the table. The inexperience of the young Arsenal squad eventually showed before the season ended just as how I thought it would.

Manchester City's winning against Fulham and taking the lead can create some pressure over Arsenal players' shoulders a little. But Arsenal just can't go on like this until the end of the season. They have made pretty amateurish mistakes on the recent weeks and risked their championship a lot. I don't even see them making it to the title anymore after losing to Manchester City as well.

But at least it must be time to finish this winless streak by their upcoming fixture. It is a home match against Chelsea. We all know how bad Chelsea are now. They have completely given up this season already and it has been a long time since they got their last win in the Premier League. They couldn't even score a goal in most of their recent matches. Arsenal don't have scoring issues while there are weaknesses in defense. But still I expect nothing different than an Arsenal win in this match. 

[Sandra_hakeem]

Liverpool's performance started well... Prolly for the fact that they were given too much space and,... uhhh..., Tottenham played with Less enthusiasm during the start of the game.
I can't imagine how bad it was to have conceived 3 goals within the first 12 minutes of the game or so.... To a point that Kane lost his composure and hanged on the ball for too long, only to get kicked in the ass and pulled away from possession... I immediately knew everything wasn't going too well. I realized earlier enough the lapses they had,..and it seemed they realized just the same when they immediately began to make on the spaces and outlets.... Then it became a 50-50 match, not untill the game changer was brought into the pitch, JOTA. I saw alot of missed chances that Tottenham could have won with -- like hitting the crossbar 3 fuckin' times? What have you to name that as ? Hard luck?... I really think they'll be an improvement now, don't you?

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[JollyGood]

When Kane scored the first Tottenham goal and Son hit the post with his left foot curler, it was going to be uncomfortable for Liverpool even they were still winning 3-1 at that stage. Tottenham played well to make it 3-3 but that back pass by Lucas Moura (who as a striker should have been nowhere near the defence at that stage) allowed Jota to score.

Having said that should Jota have stayed on the pitch after that high kick when he hit Oliver Skipp in the head? Should it have been a red card instead of the yellow card he received?

Overall, Tottenham could have walked away with a point after being 3-0 down but they ended up losing the game.

[NotATether]

What on earth is going on at Tottenham. They were losing 3-0 after 15 minutes but made the score 3-3 during time added on but as soon as they equalised, Liverpool came back and scored a fourth goal in the 90th + 4 minute to win the game 4-3. That loss must have hurt badly.

It's called "Dancing Pigeon Syndrome", and one remedy for the disease would be to ban the celebration at stadiums (Richalison LOL)

Anyway, fucking wild over there. Even Klopp pulled a hamstring celebrating that last goal. Unfortunately, Champions League spots will be out of our reach unless Manchester United collapse spectacularly like how Spurs did, which is not happening because... they are not Spurs. But at least we are almost guaranteed to finish 5th with Europa League as long as we win the rest of our games.

[JollyGood]

Tottenham have a world class stadium and are located in one of the best cities in the world but their team just keeps on underperforming on a regular basis. They have a lot of potential but they are not good enough for a top four finish this season.

Kane needs to move on to a new club before he realises he has no suitors and retires with no domestic trophies with his club Tottenham.

Here is Richarlison teaching Son how to do it, I forgot about that dance 

It's called "Dancing Pigeon Syndrome", and one remedy for the disease would be to ban the celebration at stadiums (Richalison LOL)

Anyway, fucking wild over there. Even Klopp pulled a hamstring celebrating that last goal. Unfortunately, Champions League spots will be out of our reach unless Manchester United collapse spectacularly like how Spurs did, which is not happening because... they are not Spurs. But at least we are almost guaranteed to finish 5th with Europa League as long as we win the rest of our games.

[Igebotz]

As for Manchester City they soaked up the pressure and put it back on Arsenal. If Chelsea cause problems for Arsenal when they meet on Tuesday and they end up with a loss or draw then you would expect Manchester City to increase their lead at the top of the table. The inexperience of the young Arsenal squad eventually showed before the season ended just as how I thought it would.

Do not expect anything from this Lampard side, if we were still under Potter I would have said well we could do something but us under Lampard gives me no hope, I have no hope of us winning any game since he took over, this Arsenal may not be looking as good as they were some months ago but they will surely run us down to the ground tomorrow, we haven't beaten them in a long time and things won't change now that we are even worse than before. I knew the inexperienced team would be drained along the process, as the team lacked depth.Players are the same for every game, there are no solid backups, and it is impossible to get toe to toe with mancity that way.

I see people blaming it on the lack of strikers, the lack of a good defense and stuff like that. And that's horseshit because they've signed good players like Mudryk, Koulibaly, Felix, hell even Gallagher is good as long as you play him properly. You can't just buy anyone you like and expect them to just fit in the system.

A complete and total breakdown of tactical play is why they are struggling to win games big time, and I don't see that just changing overnight next season. Which is bad for them, because they risk becoming another Spurs.

You made some good points here, but I don't see us staying down like Spurs or becoming Liverpool before the Klopp era, we are known for picking up quickly, we have the players now it's up to the club to make a hire someone experienced enough to trim the player size into manageable numbers and give them sort of motivations to his young players, it's difficult to adapt under four managers in a short period of time, i honestly blamed the owners for our mess this season,We did it properly in 2015, and I believe we can do it again.

[JollyGood]

Do not expect anything from this Lampard side, if we were still under Potter I would have said well we could do something but us under Lampard gives me no hope, I have no hope of us winning any game since he took over, this Arsenal may not be looking as good as they were some months ago but they will surely run us down to the ground tomorrow, we haven't beaten them in a long time and things won't change now that we are even worse than before. I knew the inexperienced team would be drained along the process, as the team lacked depth.Players are the same for every game, there are no solid backups, and it is impossible to get toe to toe with mancity that way.

If Chelsea managed to win and then went on an unbeaten run until the end of the season then it will remembered as the time Lampard and his team completely ended the title hopes of the London rivals Arsenal. I would not write Chelsea off just yet because they might at the very least get a draw.

I see people blaming it on the lack of strikers, the lack of a good defense and stuff like that. And that's horseshit because they've signed good players like Mudryk, Koulibaly, Felix, hell even Gallagher is good as long as you play him properly. You can't just buy anyone you like and expect them to just fit in the system.

A complete and total breakdown of tactical play is why they are struggling to win games big time, and I don't see that just changing overnight next season. Which is bad for them, because they risk becoming another Spurs.

You made some good points here, but I don't see us staying down like Spurs or becoming Liverpool before the Klopp era, we are known for picking up quickly, we have the players now it's up to the club to make a hire someone experienced enough to trim the player size into manageable numbers and give them sort of motivations to his young players, it's difficult to adapt under four managers in a short period of time, i honestly blamed the owners for our mess this season,We did it properly in 2015, and I believe we can do it again.

The problem is when Ferguson left Manchester United everybody thought they were too good to struggle and would be back to their winning ways soon but that never happened. 10 years after he retired Manchester United have been lost without a proper structure. Temporary moments of success came but they never had the same energy.

I think it is the same for Chelsea, if they do sort out their issues within the next two seasons they will face years trying to finish the season in 8th or 9th position. Chelsea can no longer by players and win the Premier League, that time was 2003 and it was possible under Abramovich bankrolling the team and it continued for nearly 20 years until Abramovich was removed from Chelsea. With the excellent squad they have now, if they do not make a successful challenge for the Premier League next season I think they will be floating around mid-table for many years to come.

[Juggy777]

When Kane scored the first Tottenham goal and Son hit the post with his left foot curler, it was going to be uncomfortable for Liverpool even they were still winning 3-1 at that stage. Tottenham played well to make it 3-3 but that back pass by Lucas Moura (who as a striker should have been nowhere near the defence at that stage) allowed Jota to score.

Having said that should Jota have stayed on the pitch after that high kick when he hit Oliver Skipp in the head? Should it have been a red card instead of the yellow card he received?

Overall, Tottenham could have walked away with a point after being 3-0 down but they ended up losing the game.

@JollyGood for the mess they’re in I blame Levy, because he’s constantly making one bad decision after another and till he’s at the club I don’t think that they can progress hence it’s time that he leaves the club. Furthermore Tottenham comeback did surprise me but in the manner they lost it clearly shows that the next manager will have a very big task on his hand, as this Tottenham side just keeps getting worst with each passing game.

[JollyGood]

It must have been very painful for them to find themselves 3-0 down only to make it 3-3 and then in the end to lose 4-3, especially if they conceded the 4th goal a minute after they equalised. Many Tottenham fans have been asking Levy to sell the club for a long time but maybe he has no plans to sell because he believes he can guide them to success.

@JollyGood for the mess they’re in I blame Levy, because he’s constantly making one bad decision after another and till he’s at the club I don’t think that they can progress hence it’s time that he leaves the club. Furthermore Tottenham comeback did surprise me but in the manner they lost it clearly shows that the next manager will have a very big task on his hand, as this Tottenham side just keeps getting worst with each passing game.

[emrecemsan]

Arsenal have been dominating the match against Chelsea as I was waiting for them to do so. They have already finished the job in the first half by getting 3-0 ahead. Chelsea have just scored and this must be like their 2nd goal in their last 8 official matches. This is just horrible for a big team like Chelsea to tell the truth. They just can't have any explanation for this poor performance in offense.

I know that they don't have any goal left in this season. But there are many other teams in the league which still do their best and score many goals despite being in a similar situation. They had better bring a permanent manager as soon as possible. They really need to bring the right man here to help his team well in a recovery phase.

For now the most rumoured names are Pochettino and Nagelsmann. I think both of them would do a nice job but Pochettino knows this place better though.

[JollyGood]

RESULT:

Arsenal 3-1 Chelsea

Arsenal are back on top of the league table again after they beat Chelsea. What is going no with Lampard and Chelsea? Full credit to Arteta and Arsenal for pushing Manchester City and still trying to challenge for the title. They are two points ahead but Manchester City have two games in hand which can give them six points.

[Igebotz]

Do not expect anything from this Lampard side, if we were still under Potter I would have said well we could do something but us under Lampard gives me no hope, I have no hope of us winning any game since he took over, this Arsenal may not be looking as good as they were some months ago but they will surely run us down to the ground tomorrow, we haven't beaten them in a long time and things won't change now that we are even worse than before. I knew the inexperienced team would be drained along the process, as the team lacked depth.Players are the same for every game, there are no solid backups, and it is impossible to get toe to toe with mancity that way.

If Chelsea managed to win and then went on an unbeaten run until the end of the season then it will remembered as the time Lampard and his team completely ended the title hopes of the London rivals Arsenal. I would not write Chelsea off just yet because they might at the very least get a draw.

I warned you, maybe it's time you wrote us off since I did months ago, I'm used to us losing for a long time now and the horrible show will continue next week.

I think it is the same for Chelsea, if they do sort out their issues within the next two seasons they will face years trying to finish the season in 8th or 9th position. Chelsea can no longer by players and win the Premier League, that time was 2003 and it was possible under Abramovich bankrolling the team and it continued for nearly 20 years until Abramovich was removed from Chelsea. With the excellent squad they have now, if they do not make a successful challenge for the Premier League next season I think they will be floating around mid-table for many years to come.

Manchester United's success under Sir Alex Ferguson was built on corruption, bribery, and manipulations. He was too respected by the English FA and he was getting enough favor, but they lost all that when he retired because he was too prominent. The Chelsea tale is different; they have everything it takes to be successful next season if they can find the proper manager.

[JollyGood]

At the very least they were capable of a draw, I mean they have a squad full of talent (old and young) therefore taking away a point would have been within their capacity. Chelsea did not even manage that and that was indicative of where they are now. You as a Chelsea fan obviously saw that coming but I did not.

Arsenal meanwhile have a great team spirit even though there is little chance Manchester City will slip up and allow them back in to the title race. You would expect Manchester City to beat West Ham United when they meet in Manchester this evening and go back to the top of the table with a game to spare.

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I warned you, maybe it's time you wrote us off since I did months ago, I'm used to us losing for a long time now and the horrible show will continue next week.

How could you that sure Chelsea would lose?

[Igebotz]

I warned you, maybe it's time you wrote us off since I did months ago, I'm used to us losing for a long time now and the horrible show will continue next week.

How could you that sure Chelsea would lose?

Maybe because I'm closer to the team and know how bad we are right now, the way we play, the dressing room is already divided, players are beginning to doubt their future, and you have a manager who only talks about players' condition and not how to improve the players tactically, we don't press enough, we can't even defend set pieces, and there are a lot of weak links in the team right now. We can't seem to get the basics right. The season is already gone, and everyone, even the players, must accept blame. I'd be surprised if we won any of our last matches.

This Brighton side has been fun to watch this season, they dominated the entire game tonight and got what they deserved at the end, what a way to avenge last weekend's FA Cup loss. Their hunt for a Europa League game continues