Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[BADecker]

^^^ I was even looking at going for Crimea. They have some nice beaches.

Keep on listening to US propaganda news. Anybody can get a couple of buddies together and talk about going for Crimea.

[paxmao]

^^^ I was even looking at going for Crimea. They have some nice beaches.

Keep on listening to US propaganda news. Anybody can get a couple of buddies together and talk about going for Crimea.

How is your request for RF citizenship going? Do you need me to legally confirm that you are mentally fit to join? I would gladly report on how perfectly fit are you to join a dictatorship - is just like if it was made for you.

I am reading quite a bit about compulsory conscriptions, protests and people flying to avoid going to the war. It is clear that RF has become a military dictatorship. Adolf Putin is not much in charge any longer, the army has decided to take matters into their hands, starting by forcing civils to go to their war.

And of course, the "fakeferedumds" to annex territories before it is to late... seems like the RF Chief Psychos and the Orc Army are looking for legal coverage to basically transform the RF into a fully fledge militarised country in the hand of a Junta.

[suchmoon]

I am reading quite a bit about compulsory conscriptions, protests and people flying to avoid going to the war. It is clear that RF has become a military dictatorship. Adolf Putin is not much in charge any longer, the army has decided to take matters into their hands, starting by forcing civils to go to their war.

I can't stop laughing every time I read news reports of lines of Russians trying to leave at Kazakhstan border. How the mighty have fallen, berating and discriminating migrants from Central Asia for decades, now running there themselves. The only thing more cringy than that is some of the new migrants asking if they should remove "Z" stickers from their cars before crossing the border... I mean WTF is wrong with these people, literally running from a fascist regime but still not sure if carrying the symbol of the regime is a good idea or not.

I don't however quite understand why Putin (or whoever is in charge now LOL) hasn't closed the borders. Rumor has it that's coming soon but they already let thousands of good cannon fodder out for no good reason.

[af_newbie]

I am reading quite a bit about compulsory conscriptions, protests and people flying to avoid going to the war. It is clear that RF has become a military dictatorship. Adolf Putin is not much in charge any longer, the army has decided to take matters into their hands, starting by forcing civils to go to their war.

I can't stop laughing every time I read news reports of lines of Russians trying to leave at Kazakhstan border. How the mighty have fallen, berating and discriminating migrants from Central Asia for decades, now running there themselves. The only thing more cringy than that is some of the new migrants asking if they should remove "Z" stickers from their cars before crossing the border... I mean WTF is wrong with these people, literally running from a fascist regime but still not sure if carrying the symbol of the regime is a good idea or not.

I don't however quite understand why Putin (or whoever is in charge now LOL) hasn't closed the borders. Rumor has it that's coming soon but they already let thousands of good cannon fodder out for no good reason.

Because he fucks up everything he touches. Maybe he has dementia and forgot to close borders, and nobody has the guts to tell that he fucked up.

The lack of organizational skills all across Russian society is self-evident. They are brain-dead, scared mice waiting for the orders from above.
Once they get orders they execute them without employing an ounce of common sense. Nobody is planning anything.

Putin is micromanaging everything, so don't expect much.

The new 'recruits' (or more precisely, freshly kidnapped people) sleep on floors and have no equipment or uniforms.

Some of the recently 'recruited' saps are already on the Zaporizhian front line.

This is going to be a meat grinder. Expect 1000+/day dead Russian soldiers in the coming weeks once they are fully deployed on all front lines.

[Branko]

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/holding-ground-losing-war/

Article written by this guy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor

[be.open]

Meanwhile, summer rumors about deliveries of Shahid-136 kamikaze drones to Russia from Iran turned out to be true. They are called Geran-2 and have recently been actively used to strike at military infrastructure in Ukraine, in particular in Odessa. Drones are slow, loud, cheap (compared to cruise missiles), not homing (working at given coordinates), and yet they seem to be quite effective, Ukrainian air defense cannot do anything with them.

Partial mobilization in Russia is a symmetrical response to mobilization in Ukraine.

Ukraine has been mobilizing since February.

Symmetrical does not mean synchronous.

I do not see the prerequisites for mass mobilization in Russia; professional military personnel are doing their job quite well.

At what point do you realize that you're being fed lies?

Russia has a huge excess of natural resources and the most combat-ready army in the world

Even now I do not consider mobilization in Russia necessary. I think Putin had a choice in response to the mobilization in Ukraine - start mass bombing or increase the size of his group. Personally, I would prefer to raze Kyiv to the ground, but fortunately for you, I do not make decisions on this issue.

[tvbcof]

Because he [Putin] fucks up everything he touches.  ...

Yup, he fucked the previously larger Ukraine and the drugged out oligarch/globalist butt-boy pretty good when he reached out and touched them.

Western Europe will probably be hit even harder, though in a different way.  Putin gave these idiots more than enough opportunity to live in peace and prosperity, but they insisted on flying moth-like into the Ziocon flame over and over again.  And now it's too late.

[TwitchySeal]

Meanwhile it seems more and more likely that Putin is about to embarrass himself yet again, and cause the unnecessary death of thousands of innocent people that never wanted to be involved, yet again,  by trying to mobilize Russians (and Ukrainians lol) to join his military that already suffers from low morale to fight a war they aren't allowed to call a war.

Russian President Vladimir Putin is unlikely to overcome fundamental structural challenges in attempting to mobilize large numbers of Russians to continue his war in Ukraine. The “partial mobilization” he ordered on September 21 will generate additional forces but inefficiently and with high domestic social and political costs. The forces generated by this “partial mobilization,” critically, are very unlikely to add substantially to the Russian military’s net combat power in 2022. Putin will have to fix basic flaws in the Russian military personnel and equipment systems if mobilization is to have any significant impact even in the longer term. His actions thus far suggest that he is far more concerned with rushing bodies to the battlefield than with addressing these fundamental flaws.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-25



War is so fucking stupid.

[paxmao]

Meanwhile, summer rumors about deliveries of Shahid-136 kamikaze drones to Russia from Iran turned out to be true. They are called Geran-2 and have recently been actively used to strike at military infrastructure in Ukraine, in particular in Odessa. Drones are slow, loud, cheap (compared to cruise missiles), not homing (working at given coordinates), and yet they seem to be quite effective, Ukrainian air defense cannot do anything with them.

Partial mobilization in Russia is a symmetrical response to mobilization in Ukraine.

Ukraine has been mobilizing since February.

Symmetrical does not mean synchronous.

I do not see the prerequisites for mass mobilization in Russia; professional military personnel are doing their job quite well.

At what point do you realize that you're being fed lies?

Russia has a huge excess of natural resources and the most combat-ready army in the world

Even now I do not consider mobilization in Russia necessary. I think Putin had a choice in response to the mobilization in Ukraine - start mass bombing or increase the size of his group. Personally, I would prefer to raze Kyiv to the ground, but fortunately for you, I do not make decisions on this issue.

By now you must be aware that the "all powerful and glorious" RF Air Force is unable to do anything in Ukraine. Missiles are ok to destroy nurseries, commercial centres and the like but real military use requires precision not "precision". To put it plainly, the RF cannot raze anything to the ground. There was no option to "bomb" and instead the Junta took the non-decision of sequestering civilians and send them to die.

On regards to "synchronous"... funny that you mention that. The RF is absolutely unable to coordinate the deployment of 300k freshly recruited pretty much demotivated and unready poor bastards. Expect them to arrive late, unequipped, untrained, unmotivated, uncoordinated... This is the perfect recipe to destroy de population growth rate of the RF for the next 10 years.

Yet here you are, still on phase 1 "denial".

Why did Putin not close the borders? Perhaps the damage would have been excessive or perhaps this is designed to send abroad anyone who might actually dissent with the Psychos Junta.

[BADecker]

^^^ Putin doesn't want to harm Ukraine. He simply wants to kick NATO and the US out. But he wants to do it without hurting the people of Ukraine.

It's a difficult thing that Putin is trying to do. The Ukrainian people tried to do it, but couldn't. So, they appealed to Russia. So, how do you get rid of the Zelensky coup which was set in place by the US and NATO, all the while protect the average people?

What Putin really needs to do is set a date. Announce it to the Ukrainian people. They have to move out of Ukraine by this date. Then, after all the people who are going to move out have done so, totally obliterate what is left of Ukraine... with nukes if necessary.

Then start over, with the people moving back to their lands that are no longer controlled by the US.

[cryptomaxsun]

Meanwhile, summer rumors about deliveries of Shahid-136 kamikaze drones to Russia from Iran turned out to be true. They are called Geran-2 and have recently been actively used to strike at military infrastructure in Ukraine, in particular in Odessa. Drones are slow, loud, cheap (compared to cruise missiles), not homing (working at given coordinates), and yet they seem to be quite effective, Ukrainian air defense cannot do anything with them.

This shit has already been nicknamed mopeds, it flies slowly and makes a lot of noise, they learned to shoot it down.
a very primitive copy of American and Israeli drones.

^^^ Putin doesn't want to harm Ukraine. He simply wants to kick NATO and the US out. But he wants to do it without hurting the people of Ukraine.

It's a difficult thing that Putin is trying to do. The Ukrainian people tried to do it, but couldn't. So, they appealed to Russia. So, how do you get rid of the Zelensky coup which was set in place by the US and NATO, all the while protect the average people?

What Putin really needs to do is set a date. Announce it to the Ukrainian people. They have to move out of Ukraine by this date. Then, after all the people who are going to move out have done so, totally obliterate what is left of Ukraine... with nukes if necessary.

Then start over, with the people moving back to their lands that are no longer controlled by the US.

How are you different from the Nazis?
putin is a sick maniac killer .
You are a fascist and you will suffer a well-deserved punishment, russia actually lost this war, this is agony.
russia is a fascist country and is a terrorist.
This war is a clash of two polar opposite worlds, views, ideologies.
And Carthage must be destroyed.

[suchmoon]

totally obliterate what is left of Ukraine... with nukes if necessary.

Then start over, with the people moving back to their lands that are no longer controlled by the US.

Solid story for a comic book, as a bonus the new population may grow a third arm or gain superpowers.

[TwitchySeal]

Meanwhile, summer rumors about deliveries of Shahid-136 kamikaze drones to Russia from Iran turned out to be true. They are called Geran-2 and have recently been actively used to strike at military infrastructure in Ukraine, in particular in Odessa. Drones are slow, loud, cheap (compared to cruise missiles), not homing (working at given coordinates), and yet they seem to be quite effective, Ukrainian air defense cannot do anything with them.

This shit has already been nicknamed mopeds, it flies slowly and makes a lot of noise, they learned to shoot it down.
a very primitive copy of American and Israeli drones.

^^^ Putin doesn't want to harm Ukraine. He simply wants to kick NATO and the US out. But he wants to do it without hurting the people of Ukraine.

It's a difficult thing that Putin is trying to do. The Ukrainian people tried to do it, but couldn't. So, they appealed to Russia. So, how do you get rid of the Zelensky coup which was set in place by the US and NATO, all the while protect the average people?

What Putin really needs to do is set a date. Announce it to the Ukrainian people. They have to move out of Ukraine by this date. Then, after all the people who are going to move out have done so, totally obliterate what is left of Ukraine... with nukes if necessary.

Then start over, with the people moving back to their lands that are no longer controlled by the US.

How are you different from the Nazis?
putin is a sick maniac killer .
You are a fascist and you will suffer a well-deserved punishment, russia actually lost this war, this is agony.
russia is a fascist country and is a terrorist.
This war is a clash of two polar opposite worlds, views, ideologies.
And Carthage must be destroyed.

Putin got Trump elected and pwnd the hell out of Hillary, Trumptards will forever defend him at all costs.  

[BADecker]

How are you different from the Nazis?
putin is a sick maniac killer .
You are a fascist and you will suffer a well-deserved punishment, russia actually lost this war, this is agony.
russia is a fascist country and is a terrorist.
This war is a clash of two polar opposite worlds, views, ideologies.
And Carthage must be destroyed.

The fact that people are in government, shows that they are a group of pushy people, no matter the government. You really need to look at the crooked things that Biden and the US government are doing to see that they are way worse than Putin could ever think of being.

[TwitchySeal]

How are you different from the Nazis?
putin is a sick maniac killer .
You are a fascist and you will suffer a well-deserved punishment, russia actually lost this war, this is agony.
russia is a fascist country and is a terrorist.
This war is a clash of two polar opposite worlds, views, ideologies.
And Carthage must be destroyed.

The fact that people are in government, shows that they are a group of pushy people, no matter the government. You really need to look at the crooked things that Biden and the US government are doing to see that they are way worse than Putin could ever think of being.

Biden stopped Trump from being President, Trumptards will forever attack him at all costs.  Which fits perfectly with the Putin narrative.

[BADecker]

How are you different from the Nazis?
putin is a sick maniac killer .
You are a fascist and you will suffer a well-deserved punishment, russia actually lost this war, this is agony.
russia is a fascist country and is a terrorist.
This war is a clash of two polar opposite worlds, views, ideologies.
And Carthage must be destroyed.

The fact that people are in government, shows that they are a group of pushy people, no matter the government. You really need to look at the crooked things that Biden and the US government are doing to see that they are way worse than Putin could ever think of being.

Biden stopped Trump from being President, Trumptards will forever attack him at all costs.  Which fits perfectly with the Putin narrative.

Biden didn't do anything. Big Money used all kinds of vote/election fraud to do it. And we see the results, below. But big money doesn't care. And loads of Dem-tards don't understand, even after they are living in the streets.

EDIT: I would have said Biden-tards rather than Dem-tards, but there aren't loads of Biden anything except criminal activity.


Inflation under Biden, Democrats costing Americans more than $11,000 a year per household

Yes, that extra pinch you are feeling in your bank account and checkbook at the end of the pay period is real.

Thanks to the inflationary spikes under our fake president, Joe Biden, and a Democrat-controlled Congress, Americans are paying a lot more for their basic necessities than they were a year ago — like $11,500 more, according to a new analysis.

According to a study by NerdWallet that was published in August, Americans have to spend that much more today than they did in 2020 if they want to maintain the same standard of living, The Epoch Times reported.

The firm’s analysts said that 2020 was the “last full year when inflation was relatively stable” — around 1.23 percent. Last month, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the inflation rate stood at 8.3 percent, down from a June high of around 9.1 percent.

Inflation has been above 5 percent for more than a year, according to BLS stats. And it’s been above 8 percent since March.



“In all of 2020, American households spent $61,300, on average,” the analysts wrote. “This number includes everything we spend our money on housing, food, entertainment, clothing, transportation, and everything else. In 2022, it stands to reach $72,900, a difference of more than $11,500 if consumers want to maintain the same standard of living.”

The analysts also said the annual cost is just an average estimate, and therefore, one that’s “exact to a very few.”

“Those who earn (and therefore spend) more will see more dramatic dollar increases. Those who earn less may see less dramatic dollar jumps, but the impact of these rising prices could be more significantly felt,” they noted.

The Epoch Times went on to note:

According to analysts, total monthly household expenditures are up by $961 from 2020, while spending on groceries is up by $101. Shelter is up by $120 and household utilities are up by $70 per household, while gasoline has risen by a whopping $209.

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[LTU_btc]

This shit has already been nicknamed mopeds, it flies slowly and makes a lot of noise, they learned to shoot it down.
a very primitive copy of American and Israeli drones.

There is good phrase that you shouldn't understimated your enemy. These drones might be slow and very loud, but so far they have done some significant damage. They fly at low altitude and missile defense systems can't detect them. It's possible to shoot it down with Stingers, but I seen video from Odessa where they are trying to shoot it down with machine guns.

[be.open]

By now you must be aware that the "all powerful and glorious" RF Air Force is unable to do anything in Ukraine. Missiles are ok to destroy nurseries, commercial centres and the like but real military use requires precision not "precision". To put it plainly, the RF cannot raze anything to the ground. There was no option to "bomb" and instead the Junta took the non-decision of sequestering civilians and send them to die.

Bombing with high-explosive bombs was successfully used by Russia, in particular at Azovstal and near Kherson, where there is no threat to defeat civilians.

On regards to "synchronous"... funny that you mention that. The RF is absolutely unable to coordinate the deployment of 300k freshly recruited pretty much demotivated and unready poor bastards. Expect them to arrive late, unequipped, untrained, unmotivated, uncoordinated... This is the perfect recipe to destroy de population growth rate of the RF for the next 10 years.

Ukraine somehow coped with the task of mobilizing more than 800k civilians, Russia has a simpler task.

Yet here you are, still on phase 1 "denial".

I think you are too exalted by the local success of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Kharkov. Ukraine still has no chance in confrontation with Russia.

Why did Putin not close the borders? Perhaps the damage would have been excessive or perhaps this is designed to send abroad anyone who might actually dissent with the Psychos Junta.

What for? Russia has a multiple greater mobilization resource than Ukraine, it's okay if some people go abroad, it's their choice.

[TwitchySeal]

Why did Putin not close the borders? Perhaps the damage would have been excessive or perhaps this is designed to send abroad anyone who might actually dissent with the Psychos Junta.

What for? Russia has a multiple greater mobilization resource than Ukraine, it's okay if some people go abroad, it's their choice.

To stop people from fleeing the country to avoid either fighting a war they aren't allowed to call a war or face 10 years in the gulag for refusing to fight in the war they can't call a war.

[suchmoon]

Ukraine somehow coped with the task of mobilizing more than 800k civilians, Russia has a simpler task.

Sending thousands of untrained drunks armed with rusty kalashnikovs against HIMARS is indeed quite simple. Not very effective though.