suchmoon came in second. Revisit the list to see who came in first.
suchmoon did not come in second. Revisit the list to see who came in second. Hint: It's the user above your own name. LOL statistics doesn't appear to be a strong subject in this thread.  Congratulations to those that are the most entertaining:  |
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I'll buy your evidence here, xtraelv. Even though I still firmly believe these accounts are part of a shitposting bounty farm and that they abused the merit system, I wouldn't have tagged them for just the merit issue and I'll assume they've learned their lesson about that. Hopefully.
Also I apparently stopped paying attention to this thread before marlboroza pretty much posted the same issue with the "airdropped" ETH, because he did post about it back in September. Either way, I'll remove the red trust now.
Better to have guilty men go free than to have innocent men punished. I think you have made the right choice. Some of the merit data did look a little unusual but if any merit was swapped I doubt they will repeat it. |
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Thats too bad. I guess this forum is dead then.
Do you have a PGP key that you have used that is linked to the account ? I've archived the earliest bitcoin address that you have quoted in case you find your old wallet data. https://archive.fo/eKjTjI want to get some bitcoins so I am offering my domain. www.copiesandprinting.com for sale - BTC accepted mybitcoin address 1JWsFCv2u47gkgSimeCAznQWwxaQiLiacr I want 666.66 BTC. or Best Offer. The domain is registered at GoDaddy.com. I have owned it since 2000. you can email me at sebuh@live.com if you are interested. |
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YEP - As I said....  |
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Yes I know he delivered the paid service didnt he? All 3 or 4 xtraelv posts on this thread are completely biased one side posts and were clearly paid by you. You are a Scammer Medri/eliale.
Be careful xtraelv I hate scammers accomplices. You might end with some negative feedback.
I have never even used the rock as a customer or even spoken to someone from there - let alone being paid by them. To make such blatantly false accusation against me accompanied with threats for expressing my opinion is not cool. You have effectively publicly called me a liar and scammer - that makes you untrustworthy in my view. Your aggressive demeanor towards me makes me think you are an alt of the OP or somehow vested in this. Disclosure: I've never traded on that exchange and don't know anyone involved there.
xtraelv posts on this thread are completely biased one side posts and were clearly paid by you
I now require you to provide proof of this "payment". Failing to provide clear verifiable proof of payment makes you a proven LIAR. People can have different opinions but as soon as you started accusing me and threatening me you became untrustworthy. Archived for proof of threat and false accusation. From an account that curiously woke up after a long sleep...  Fortunately you should be able to prove it is not a bought or hacked account by signing a message with todays date with address 1FphoN4MyqwPuWBQaN4PgHZMSkWcuitsBuhttps://archive.fo/dTj4A#selection-5885.16-5885.50 What a co-incidence...  AML & KYC is entrenched in Italian law - FACT
It is reasonably recent that it applies to virtual currencies - FACT
That exchange is located in Italy and subject to Italian law - FACTThis is a typical post by someone who does not want to disclose their identity - for unknown reasons. I tried to help at the start - it could have easily been resolved two months ago simply by sending in KYC. Someone can have a tantrum and cause numerous posts on the internet. It doesn't make them right. If an exchange has to follow the law they do not have leeway to make exceptions. They legally cannot return the funds unless KYC is completed. It would be different if an exchange is located in some dodgy country. The Legislative Decree No. 90 of May 25, 2017 has been published in the Ordinary Supplement No. 28 of the Italian Official Gazette No. 140 of 19 June 2017 (the Decree). The Decree amends the legislative decrees No 231 dated 21 November 2007 (Decree 231) and No. 109 dated 22 June 2007, implementing the Directive (EU) 2015/849 (IV AML Directive) on «prevention of the use of the financial system for money laundering or terrorist financing» as well as the Regulation (EU) 2015/847 on information on accompanying transfers of funds. https://www.dlapiper.com/en/italy/insights/publications/2017/06/anti-money-laundering-directive-in-italy/Virtual currency providers
Specific rules have also been set forth with reference to providers operating in "virtual currencies", meaning any "digital representation of value, not issued by a central bank or by a public authority, not necessarily linked to a currency with legal tender, used as a means of exchange for the purchase of goods and services and transferred, stored and negotiated electronically".
In detail, the Decree 231 now qualifies as "other non-financial operators" the virtual currency service providers, defined as "natural or legal persons providing to third parties, on a professional basis, services functional to use, exchange, store virtual currencies as well as to convert them in or from currencies with legal tender". Such providers are required to fulfil specific anti-money laundering obligations with regard to virtual currency conversion activities.
It is worthy of notice the fact that, by amending Legislative Decree no. 141, the Decree requires the virtual currency service providers to be registered in a special section of the register held by the so called "Agents and Credit Brokers Body" (Organismo degli Agenti e dei Metiatori Creditizi) which is responsible for the management of the register of financial agents and credit brokers, in accordance with Article 128-undecies of the Consolidated Banking Act.
This provision shall be implemented by a decree to be issued by the Italian Minister of Economy and Finance, detailing the reporting duties of the virtual currency service providers with regard to the operations carried out in Italy. Such reporting must be considered as an essential condition for the lawful performance of the relevant activity by the aforementioned providers. https://www.dlapiper.com/en/italy/insights/publications/2017/06/anti-money-laundering-directive-in-italy/It is also clearly stated in their terms:  https://support.therocktrading.com/kb/faq.php?id=64&lang=en_US https://www.therocktrading.com/en/service_terms/5 They clearly state that they can ask for additional information and refer to their AML policy.Note:
per our sole discretion we can require additional information or documents despite the status
Please, if you are sending documents via mail (not suggested), you can utilize only the mail we do have on file.
without updated and proper documentation FIAT deposits or withdrawals will be delayed until updated properly
please read our AML policy I'm sick of people calling something a "scam" when it is compliance to the law.Archived |
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Firstly congratulations to the OP for ranking up. Even TMAN gave you a compliment. Unfortunately, merits are still very tied to issues related to utility. That is, those who produced something useful receive tons of merits. As one of the few useful things that have been constantly produced in the forum are statistics about merits, these topics are the ones that receive most. Those who produce something useful looking for and unmasking scams, plagiarists and double accounts are also very well rewarded with tons of merits.
This is useful for improving the quality of the discussions and improving the forum as a whole. So the merits system works if the intention is just to improve the forum.
Merit sources have limited time. Giving merits to people working to make the forum a better place distributes merits through (usually) reliable members via sMerits. Because they are looking for "scams, plagiarists and double accounts" they are also in a good position to distribute Merits from the sMerits that they receive. A lot of the merit sources and senior members are interested in the inner workings an administration of the forum. Part of this is getting rid of the spammers and shit-posters. Often when I have a excess of sMerits I go on the hunt for newbies to give merits to. A lot of the time I get disappointed and end up reporting them for plagiarism or other deliberate rule violations. If I believe it is accidental I usually send a PM rather than reporting them. Genuine newbies are hard to find. Some of them pose as newbies but are really account farmers for campaigns. I look for genuine opinions - not something that someone writes because they think it is what someone wants to hear. Consistency in their other posts and for signs that they are interested in discussion rather than talking at people. Looking for genuine newbies can be quite exhausting and often involves having to dredge through hundreds of posts to find a deserving one. I do challenge members to do that. |
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Thats expensive stuff ! I've added it to the OP  He paid 9BTC. That is, today it would cost almost 60k USD. This is cool as a curiosity, but it should never discourage using BTC for transactions like this. On the contrary, it should stimulate. But often cases like this or that pizza make us think several times before spending any BTC we own. This is sad 1 GRAM RHODIUM COIN = US $162,95It is the people that use bitcoin and altcoins as a means of exchange that will eventually assist it to become adopted by the masses. My theory is that when BTC reaches a high value it will become more stable and trading will be done in satoshi increments or BTC will be used for inter exchange transactions but other crypto will be used for smaller transactions. I have also paid phenomenal amounts for items purchased with BTC and items purchased with altcoins. But I have also paid minuscule amounts for BTC and ETH at times and mined coins at a fraction of their current value. Some of the items I purchased now have great sentiment value. Someone once said to me:" Shit happens in crypto trading. If you have regrets then you should not buy Crypto." If you buy something with BTC and you feel you might regret it - just buy more BTC. |
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I only support projects and coins that I believe in. Regardless of profit. Project ethics, long-term viability, real world use, innovation and strong development teams is what gets my attention. It makes any losses more bearable knowing that a project is giving its best and it makes any profits more satisfying knowing that it is making a positive impact.
What i found that works best for me is to have a long term strategy rather than following the hype of coins. With ICO's and with pumps and dumps there is frantic trading and the price first goes up and then usually goes down.
You can analyse the cycles of a coin and predict when it goes up and when it is likely to go down. But I am not a particularly good trader.
I like capital gain rather than trading profits.
I find it easier and less time consuming to buy coins that I think are long term winners.
The criteria that I use are:
If it is POW coins - how much does it cost to mine v to buy ?
Was there a pre-mine and who benefited and why ? (e.g. if it is used for ongoing development then that is good - if it is dev get rich quick then it is bad)
With POS coins - is the rate of return sustainable. How is it generated ? Transaction fees or new coins generated?
What is the total number of coins in circulation.
What is the usual daily number of coins being traded
What is the maximum amount of coins that will be / are created.
How popular is it ?
Importantly - does it have a particular purpose?
How useful is it ?
Do i understand how it works ?
Its special features - Would I use it ?
Does it have some really good features ?
What is the market CAP - is it realistic ?
Does it have a busy developer community ?
Are funds from its value being used to develop it further ?
Is it ethical and does it have legitimate use ? (For my own peace of mind and to prevent regulatory shutdown)
Spread your investment - do some cloud mining, some home mining, invest in a promising exchange / crypto related startup / ICO , Invest in some established coins like BTC, ETH, LTC and invest in some lesser known coins that show some promise. Don't be too greedy - diversify. Take some risk but make sure to do your homework. Last year after everyone was selling ETH after the DAO hack - I took a risk and stated buying ETH mining contracts and ETH. I made a larger % from that than trading. It outperformed my expectations.
Some coins are worthwhile holding on when the price crashes and sometimes you are better cutting your losses.
I hadn't heard of Droxne until I saw the trading volume this morning with a large volume being dumped and the price crashing.
“Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful”
― Warren Buffett
(I have to add - Warren Buffet does not like crypto and has said crypto is a bubble that will burst)
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Please use the scam reporting format. Making unsubstantiated allegations is not "proof" or helpful. If you have evidence you should state it. There are a number of false and poor quality accusations that make it harder for people to distinguish facts from fiction. Scam Report Format [b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]
Copy and paste it in new thread then fill all data. Scam report example:What happened:: I saw escrow.ms's lolipop thread 4 days ago and placed a order for 1000 lolipops. After I sent him payment, he just went offline and never came back. I think he's a big liar and a scam artist. Stay away from him. Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=76380Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260070.0Amount Scammed: 2 BTC/$176.40 Payment Method: Bitcoins Proof of Payment: http://blockchain.info/tx/b80f35cebae98fcbd8eb0e2eaea6def41f90ad01086ad830ba23094ac3c3b165PM/Chat Logs: https://i.imgur.com/8UbLVSc.pngAdditional Notes: I advise you to not deal with this user until this dispute is resolved. Some Tips Use escrow and be safe. |
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- 1) the fact that your colleague, marina, is digging through nasonov's dirty laundry by publishing his photo with a beautiful woman doesn't contribute to proofs (vice versa - it's an open blackmailing). moreover, all of us remember fake video where he allegedly confesses in scamming. I wish both sides to this would concentrate on facts rather than unsubstantiated accusations. If you throw shit at others in the hope that some sticks - it might hit them but you still have shit on your hands. There is no real proof of "blackmail" and if there is it should be reported to the police and dealt with by the courts. |
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I would not bother to make another post to say the old stuffs again and again but seems like here xtraelv bought another new dimension to spice up the entire mdayonliner reputation again. You are doing very good job xtraelv since you were caught on exchanging merit with your friend (which later I figured was not intentional).
There is no doubt that I would like to consider Lafu a friend. We chat occasionally on discord. I neither know his real name and neither does he know mine (although I could easily find out) . I admire him for his knowledge and dedication towards helping others with crypto. There are others on this forum that I would like to consider friends as well. People of who I don't know their RLI but chat with regularly regarding crypto. I doubt it precludes me from giving merit to them for a deserving post. But for an exchange to take place there would have had to have been some sort of agreement. There was none. I never discussed merits with Lafu until after you made the allegation. I have no need for an account beyond "JrMember" since I never participate in bounties or signature campaigns. So merit is not important to me.  I was not caught exchanging merit. It was your allegation that I exchanged merit. Your methodology was flawed. I did not exchange merit. When I gave merit there was no expectation of anything in return. You are mixing truths (I was involved with online marketing stuffs before joining the forum), semi truths, mistakes where I had no hand and regretted in public numerous times , innocent mistakes when a system was too new to understand, finding mistakes in regular things and lies very wisely. I wonder how do you find everything all together? I hope you don't plan for them to frame me.
Your involvement in " marketing stuff before joining the forum" was promoting ponzis. Lets call it what it is. This is where the issue is. You accuse me of lying but you have not identified a single lie. I have offered to change any mistakes in the information. All the evidence I have presented I have backed up with a source so people can check it themselves and draw their own conclusions. Now you are trying to insinuate that I would frame you ? Those are just weasel words. EDIT: https://archive.fo/6r01l |
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We did spreedshit for each categories. To receive a spreedshit, write to us on bounty@bitcourse.net indicating your nickname and the category in which you are participating. Who has already told us his mail may not do this. We will send everything to you tomorrow. <snip>
no. in the spreedshit Twitter campaingn 190
no. in the spreedshit Facebook campaingn 122
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no. in the spreedshit 11
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Manager, when you will check my status in twitter campaign(spreedshit 244 Levilate)?
Dear, Dyron. I have made friendly tweets and retweeted posts from your twitter, made a report to this thread, and send a report
no later than 2 days after the end of the week. And why i don't see my account approved in the spreadshit?
Do you have any spreadshit which show our stakes, or ypou will publish end od bounty campaing ?
I joined the telegram
Tw spreadshit#86
Fb spreadshit #82
please correct the status. Thank you
These are just a few examples of spreedshit, spreadshit and speedshit posts EDIT: Any kind I guess. If you`re talking about specifically pets then I would more likely to get a god.
A what ?  |
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So it looks like mdayonliner abused that Ambassador airdrop/bounty with alt accounts? Does that sound about right? (I may just forget about this forum completely or may consider creating another account /This time anonymous like most of you all have/)
I would advise you to be a lot less ambitious in your dealings on bitcointalk if you go that route. I never thought you offered to do that escrow deal so you could run away with the money, but you most likely would have had the temptation to, and given that you didn't have a reputation as an escrow, it was an ill-advised offer. My impression was always that you were trying to build a reputation here too quickly, and that got you in trouble. So what about the apparent alt accounts you had participating in the bounty I mentioned above? Certainly looks that way. The nguyenthanhhieu status was posted first and when I checked it showed that it has not been edited.   https://archive.fo/6wSFjThe Mdayonliner post was posted the following day with the same twitter status.  https://archive.fo/rQ5eg https://archive.fo/yfw53Account farmers tend to make mistakes. Getting confused with which profile they are posting. |
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I think you posted the wrong archive for quangtrung1991 . It is the same as the mdayonliner one. [url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1432468]mdayonliner[/url] [url=https://twitter.com/cDesignsUK]Twitter[/url] [url=https://archive.fo/IwWzP]Archive[/url]
[url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1786178]quangtrung1991 [/url] [url=https://twitter.com/cDesignsUK]Twitter[/url] [url=https://archive.fo/IwWzP]Archive[/url]
I found the post and archived it https://archive.fo/NBqhO |
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Don't bother to answer the questions coz after this post (I may just forget about this forum completely or may consider creating another account /This time anonymous like most of you all have/) I will login to this forum only to communicate with the loan thread I have (There are few people who took loan from me and still on their process to give them back although I am not sure how much I will get back). I love Bitcoin and wanted to be part of the forum to promote bitcoin (I still can do my job by the way, this forum should not be the only option for me). I never had any bad intentions and will never have one coz deep down I know myself although this proves nothing for you except criticism from some of you. Thanks to the well wishers I made here also the haters. Good luck everyone. Another one ? https://archive.fo/B5jjHhttps://archive.fo/PWDw4https://archive.fo/GfXmt |
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Ofcourse it is possible to delete accounts. Site admins will have that option, for sure. Whether they don`t care or are just lazy is another issue. I am pretty sure they are obliged by law if they are registered in the US or EU or other similar areas.
Just leaving the account won`t satisfy me. What if someone else wants my username? If I just leave it will be "gone" forever.
My OCD forces me to delete the accounts I don`t use.
You can delete your posts and change your email to a disposable one. There is no personal information that you cannot delete so not quite sure how you think EU or US law applies to this. |
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Merits system here is useless. Look at threads/topics started by "First77" but he got banned Gold and silver are safer than bank deposits https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4463427.0Digital money = cashless society Most dangerous jobs and many others.. You mean your alt got banned and you are now shit-posting the same crap under this account including your website link. Thus bypassing a ban. |
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In my country our ID card is a global card with our full id numbers of all public services. It's so danger to give a copy of it that is illegal for any entity to demand it. They can only verify the numbers.
I'll go to the police, but it will be my last option, since I'll have to send them a digital copy of my id card. Who knows how many low officials, secretaries, will handle the copy.
I know a guy who had his life destroyed because of a copy of his id card.
Besides I'm warning the community about them. I Know I won't have patience after this is solved.
But thanks for your interest allyouracid.
You trusted them with your crypto but not with your ID. If you don't want to give them your national ID you can give them your passport instead. With KYC in certain jurisdictions you can do anything you like but unless you provide the identification they require for KYC so they can comply with AML laws they won't budge. The "drama" that you can create is nothing in comparison to the prison terms they can receive for not complying with the law. It is not as if the exchange is hidden somewhere in Russia or the Ukraine. The exchange is located in Italy: The Rock Trading TRT srl - Galleria del Corso 2 - 20122 Milano, Italy - VAT: 10120840961 https://www.therocktrading.com/It has to comply with AML laws https://www.therocktrading.com/en/service_terms/5There is a good chance that because you have made this much drama that your file has been passed to the authorities as "suspicious". Refusing to provide identification to withdraw a substantial amount of funds is suspicious. No matter what excuses you provide. I don't like KYC either - but it is introduced by legislation and most exchanges have to comply to AML regulations. (The exchanges that don't have to comply to AML legislation are in dodgy jurisdictions) Dealing with large amounts on centralized exchanges requires KYC nowadays. It is just a fact of life. |
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