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1121  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2024 Diff thread happy New Years. on: March 12, 2024, 02:27:52 AM
OK, I have seen a reference to a "bull trap". Can someone explain what that really means and how it works?

Btc is ath high = bull 🐂

½ ing in 38 days = trap 🪤

If you purchased  a miner right now because it is bull and btc goes flat or retreats you will likely lose

mining. you got trapped.

if you buy a miner now and we moon 🌕 you will not be bull trapped.

so buying gear to mine today has the added risk of a bull trap.

and lets say you buy one and we drift to 75k and do flat we as a buyer at any price under that you are okay.

but a miner could be in a lot of trouble if we stay under 80k for a long time.
1122  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 12, 2024, 02:14:48 AM
Whatever dumbassery there is in the legacy media, at least it is very clear that they are still talking about Bitcoin.

Certainly not Ethereum, not Vitalik walking zombie deep eye socket man, not BNB, not Solana and not bearded ape asswiped NFTs.

Other "cryptos" are not even worth mentioning here as they are bound to fall off the radar in a few years whichever position they currently enjoy on coinmarketcap.

Most never even regained their previous highs whilst we have seen BTC's new ATHs. At what point is it not clear to people that they are shitcoins?

Just because it is a shitcoin does not mean it has absolutely no use. You can leverage Bitcoin to short shitcoins and make more Bitcoin Tongue. When exiting your position you can figuratively feel the frustration and confusion of shitcoin investors who still have not realized that whenever Bitcoin goes down, shitcoins go down even harder. And shitcoins always go down except during bull markets when they get to ride daddy Bitcoin's coat tails. And if the shitcoiner gets lucky, they own whichever shitcoin is getting pumped on that day(Which totally is not just the devs trying to make their shitcoin look popular, I mean, who would do that? Roll Eyes).

No shit coin should be purchased or traded for.

Mining them at a profit and quickly converting to btc is the only way to deal with shit coins.
1123  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 12, 2024, 02:08:26 AM

tick tock to the moon
1124  Economy / Speculation / Re: Top 20 days for Bitcoin on: March 12, 2024, 01:47:26 AM
Hoping for many more days of high numbers.

11+2 = 13 solid days over 60k

and multiple ATH's in a row.
1125  Economy / Speculation / Re: Top 20 days for Bitcoin on: March 12, 2024, 12:41:41 AM
Rank   BitStamp  USD/BTC
   1  2024-03-11  71360 USD
   2  2024-03-10  69255 USD
   3  2024-03-09  68393 USD
   4  2024-03-08  68221 USD
   5  2021-11-09  67483 USD
   6  2024-03-07  67191 USD
   7  2024-03-06  66315 USD
   8  2021-11-10  66256 USD
   9  2024-03-04  65970 USD
  10  2021-11-08  65762 USD
  11  2021-10-20  65702 USD
  12  2021-11-15  65064 USD
  13  2024-03-05  65034 USD
  14  2021-11-11  64931 USD
  15  2021-10-21  64502 USD
  16  2021-11-14  64456 USD
  17  2021-11-13  64113 USD
  18  2021-11-12  63900 USD
  19  2021-04-14  63315 USD
  20  2021-10-19  63168 USD
  21  2021-04-15  62949 USD
  22  2021-10-25  62745 USD
  23  2021-11-03  62608 USD
  24  2024-03-03  62489 USD
  25  2021-11-02  62447 USD
  26  2021-11-07  62216 USD
  27  2021-04-13  62143 USD
  28  2024-02-29  62117 USD
  29  2024-03-01  62097 USD
  30  2021-10-22  62069 USD
  31  2024-03-02  62027 USD
  32  2021-10-26  61895 USD
  33  2021-11-04  61789 USD
  34  2021-10-18  61675 USD
  35  2021-10-30  61605 USD
  36  2021-10-29  61534 USD
  37  2021-04-16  61478 USD
  38  2021-11-05  61449 USD
  39  2021-11-01  61302 USD
  40  2021-10-16  61253 USD
  41  2021-04-17  61112 USD
  42  2021-10-31  61085 USD
  43  2021-10-23  61064 USD
  44  2021-11-06  60862 USD
  45  2021-11-16  60734 USD
  46  2021-10-17  60685 USD
  47  2021-10-24  60481 USD
  48  2021-03-14  60429 USD
  49  2024-02-28  60403 USD
  50  2021-04-12  60169 USD
  51  2021-10-15  60134 USD
  52  2021-10-28  60131 USD
  53  2021-04-10  60037 USD
  54  2021-11-17  59813 USD
  55  2021-04-11  59797 USD
  56  2021-03-13  59670 USD
  57  2021-04-02  59378 USD
  58  2021-10-27  59370 USD
  59  2021-11-21  59185 USD
  60  2021-04-01  58826 USD
  61  2021-03-20  58820 USD
  62  2021-11-20  58791 USD
  63  2021-11-18  58687 USD
  64  2021-05-08  58665 USD
  65  2021-03-31  58640 USD
  66  2021-04-03  58586 USD
  67  2021-03-18  58586 USD
  68  2021-03-30  58473 USD
  69  2021-11-25  58316 USD
  70  2021-04-06  58307 USD
  71  2021-03-19  58307 USD
  72  2021-04-05  58289 USD
  73  2021-04-09  58229 USD
  74  2021-05-03  57906 USD
  75  2021-05-09  57902 USD
  76  2021-05-01  57825 USD
  77  2021-11-29  57636 USD
  78  2021-10-14  57623 USD
  79  2021-04-04  57572 USD
  80  2021-11-30  57431 USD
  81  2021-12-01  57380 USD
  82  2021-11-22  57339 USD
  83  2021-04-08  57275 USD
  84  2021-03-29  57263 USD
  85  2021-03-21  57207 USD
  86  2021-11-19  57203 USD
  87  2021-02-21  57158 USD
  88  2021-03-15  57137 USD
  89  2021-05-07  57025 USD
  90  2021-11-23  57006 USD
  91  2021-05-10  56970 USD
  92  2021-05-06  56806 USD
  93  2021-10-11  56802 USD
  94  2021-05-02  56788 USD
  95  2024-02-27  56716 USD
  96  2021-03-12  56712 USD
  97  2021-11-24  56694 USD
  98  2021-04-07  56684 USD
  99  2021-12-02  56681 USD
 100  2021-03-11  56339 USD
    * * Chart Explanation * *


Nice New ATH
1126  Economy / Speculation / Re: Top 20 days for Bitcoin on: March 12, 2024, 12:31:07 AM
77777.77 next

Lucky number?

I prefer the Chinese lucky number: 88888.88

Edit: Hello DirtyK

We're patiently waiting.  Cool

I have a few slices to sell at:

77777.77
80808.00
88888.88
90909.00
1127  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2024 Diff thread happy New Years. on: March 12, 2024, 12:27:47 AM
Only a few years ago eff was 30-40w/T, now is less that 20w/T That is hardly 'little' progress.

Well actually going as far back as 4-5 years then it's 2019 era, the most efficient publicly available mining gear at the time was Antminer S17 which did 56th for 2500w, this puts it 44.6W/th, fast-forward to today, we got Antminer S21 which does 200th for 3500W, which is 17.5th, that's a little over 60% improvement in efficiency which is HUGE, one would also assume that mining gears manufacturers have already acquired more experience and skills to make the overall production cost lower.

We may not get another 60% improvement in the coming 4 to 5 years, at least not on a single-chip level, but if they can make them cheap enough, they can always stack more chips and run them at lower speeds to achieve better efficiency.

I under clocked s17pro to 42th and pulled as little as 1300 watts that was 31 watts.

So far no one has shown me an s21 at 3500 watts I have seen a

200 th s21 doing 3575 watts = 17.875 watts a th

so we went from 31 to 17.875 that is a 42.5% improvement

 2019 to 2024 five years time we are better.

BTW Fuzzy is correct that more efficiency does not help miners much.
1128  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2024 Diff thread happy New Years. on: March 11, 2024, 11:13:16 PM
Have we now hit a new "All Time High" on BTC price (roughly $72.5K)?

That seems like it will spur mining effort, at least until the halving.
fomo is not here for mining.

we are at 12 cents a th we were at 13 cents a th due to high fees back in December.

The month of December was better for mining btc then it is right now. as we had 3 coins of fees per block
we now have only 0.30 coins of fees each block

and the hammer is coming in under 40 days. (1/2 ing)

Meanwhile the diff is jumping over 6%. I smell a bull trap

Quote
https://newhedge.io/terminal/bitcoin/difficulty-estimator

Latest Block:   834282  (a few seconds ago)

Current Pace:   106.3422%  (1675 / 1575.10 expected, 99.9 ahead)

Previous Difficulty:   81725299822043.22                           
Current Difficulty:   79351228131136.77                           
Next Difficulty:   between 84234208206445 and 84387155575890
Next Difficulty Change:   between +6.1536% and +6.3464%
Previous Retarget:   February 29, 2024 at 7:45 PM  (-2.9049%)
Next Retarget (earliest):   Thursday at 12:42 AM  (in 2d 5h 26m 37s)
Next Retarget (latest):   Thursday at 1:17 AM  (in 2d 6h 1m 1s)
Projected Epoch Length:   between 13d 3h 57m 39s and 13d 4h 32m 3s
1129  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 11, 2024, 11:07:47 PM
Quote
I've been thinking a lot about these ETFs and running the possible scenarios through my head.

I'm increasing my probability of a speculative attack on the USD to 30-40% by the end of 2025.

What might this look like?

There will be a gargantuan, constant bid on Bitcoin, as a flight to safety out of all fiat currencies. A bid from the hand of God himself.

George Soros breaking the Bank of England will be a drop in the ocean compared to what is coming.

The attack vector here will come from all angles, this is what makes my probability so high:

- From the corporate angle: companies see what Saylor is doing with issuing more and more debt to buy bitcoin, and copy him.

- Countries see the success of El Salvador in buying bitcoin and copy them. The Saudis also start bidding, causing other countries to bid in secret for national security reasons.

- Individuals see viral Tik Tok campaigns explaining that the cost of living is so high because of the currency. They buy because they are screwed anyway. Financial nihilism. The zeitgeist is perfect for this.

- Banks see customer deposits flee to crypto exchanges / ETFs, prompting them to offer custodial solutions.

- Politicians looking to make a name for themselves realise the younger generation wants Bitcoin, not Fed Coin.

- Hedge funds realise the US is increasing debt by $1 trn every 100 days and make it publicly known that they are taking very large positions in Bitcoin, encouraging others to do the same.

There is no real precedence for any of this.

We are talking about a global flight to safety on a scale that is so enormous it should scare you to even consider this as a 1% probability event, let alone 30-40%.

If you see what I see, there are not any words in the English language to describe how big of a deal this is.

We are talking about a tidal wave of money all trying to escape the fiat system simultaneously, into a digital asset with a fixed supply.

Where we are going, there will be no ask.

If this eventuates, it will become a systemic risk to the global financial system as it is currently structured, forcing the G20 to convene in a Bretton Woods 2.0 meeting to rejig The Game.

It seems to me that there is blood in the water here.

The sharks are coming...

They can see the kill.

They want a feast.

And they fucking deserve it.
https://twitter.com/rationalaussie/status/1767216888936071427?t=SlyoLg9f5DR4cI2VInoZ1A&s=19


I found those scenarios to be unlikely in a short time frame (1-2 years).
Most likely, we would pull up to a significant % of the gold market cap of about 12 tril (anywhere between 30 and 50%) aka $4-6 tril or 200-300K/btc.
My favorite number, if someone asks, is currently $236K/btc.

I think the flight will be into:

gold
silver
platinum
palladium

then btc

Maybe stones like ruby emeralds and diamonds.

But it still does not mean dump your btc.

I am hoping for my btc savings to become higher than my wife's 'safe' 401k by 2026
1130  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 11, 2024, 07:20:06 PM
This is being the most calm and slow progressing ATH I ever witnessed. Not gonna complain though.

P.S.: In other words... anyone else "miss" the good old violent pumps and dumps?

there was a violent revisit under 60k .... already far to violent for me...

please give the seasoned OG's just a forward travel thx in advance.

yep march 5th we dropped hard.

close to 73k.
1131  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 11, 2024, 07:15:59 PM
when 3x wo page count?

🔜 soon?


it would be 99426

as 3x33142= 99426

I wonder that if we ever get to 3x page count what will it be?

33333x3=99999

so I have to think that is not going to happen that soon.

maybe by 35000 we are at 105000
1132  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2024 Diff thread happy New Years. on: March 11, 2024, 06:06:01 PM
really heating up

Quote
newhedge.io

Latest Block:   834246  (15 minutes ago)

Current Pace:   106.1595%  (1639 / 1543.90 expected, 95.1 ahead)

Previous Difficulty:   81725299822043.22                           
Current Difficulty:   79351228131136.77                           
Next Difficulty:   between 84061075695735 and 84242269902101
Next Difficulty Change:   between +5.9354% and +6.1638%
Previous Retarget:   February 29, 2024 at 7:45 PM  (-2.9049%)
Next Retarget (earliest):   Thursday at 1:15 AM  (in 2d 11h 11m 15s)
Next Retarget (latest):   Thursday at 1:56 AM  (in 2d 11h 52m 9s)
Projected Epoch Length:   between 13d 4h 30m 17s and 13d 5h 11m 11s

fees are going up a little.
1133  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: March 11, 2024, 06:02:19 PM

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com


buddy and badger are pushing us higher and higher.
1134  Economy / Speculation / Re: Top 20 days for Bitcoin on: March 11, 2024, 06:00:05 PM
Really getting heated early.

hope if stays hot.

77777.77 next
1135  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 11, 2024, 05:42:43 PM
Good morning WO!

I spy with my little eye.... 71k!

So we have now entered no-mans-land. The new frontier (ha, get it? Because Star Trek).

Can't wait for us to pass 100k, finally! Those ETF's sure are doing their job Cheesy. Good.

We entered no man's land at $55k..and it probably lasts until about $82k-ish... give or take a couple k..

Sure, this would be called price discovery (and yeah probably in that regard the new frontier of places not yet explored) since all time highs are being reached.. and hard to even come close to proclaiming that we are approaching either blow off top territory or even over exuberance.. yet.. .. but yeah, if we go to $90k in the next 12 to 36 hours, I, personally, would consider that to be over exuberance... each person likely has their own definition and that's why some people are still waiting for a 50% correction.  

We are not over exuberant. Yet.

Mining pays 12 cents a th

or 6 cents in a month.  That 6 cents is very shitty for mining.

But if we were at 123456 right now we would be at 20 cents a th soon to be 10 cents a th at the 1/2ing

if we are at those numbers after the 1/2 ing it would be uncharted highs for miners right after the ½ ing.

Soon to see what happens
1136  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 11, 2024, 05:36:19 PM
Poll should change to:

What do you think will happen first:

Back to 65K or new ATH at 100K.

how about 66666 or 77777?

66666 or 99999?

99999 or 123456?
1137  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 11, 2024, 04:31:33 PM
Poll should change to:

What do you think will happen first:

Back to 65K or new ATH at 100K.

how about 66666 or 77777?
1138  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Hello, my friend has 200 solar panels, do they generate enough energy for mining on: March 11, 2024, 04:27:19 PM
a solar panel could be 400 watts so 200 x 400 = 80000 watts do a factor of 5 gives you 400,000 watts in a day.

If you have a proper buy back electric company you get 1 to 1 payback for excess.

translation take the 400k/24 = 16kwatts an hour 24/7/365

so 5 antminer s21's maybe or 4 ant miner s21's surely
1139  Other / Meta / Re: [REQUEST] the wall observer thread should be pinned. on: March 11, 2024, 04:29:27 AM
Chart buddy does keep it near the top. Lots of others post.

I would think it gets over 100 posts a day.
1140  Economy / Speculation / Re: Top 20 days for Bitcoin on: March 11, 2024, 03:59:48 AM
Wait until tomorrow.

Over $70k?

would love to see us level up this week.
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