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1781  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "Why haven't the earliest participants sold their Bitcoin, and some haven't even on: November 21, 2023, 06:47:06 PM
but the point is of the first 100,000 blocks with 5 million coins in them over 500,000 coins have moved.

So most of the guys alive  in years 1 and 2 of mining moved what they needed to move.

One day maybe in 2059 old unmoved addresses will be forfeiting the coins unless they move them.

Much Like a bank declares bank accounts to be abandoned.

I wonder if the USA or a few big ass countries will start to do that. Force the stale addresses to show they are not lost or abandoned.

I wish I was only 30 and not 66 as I likely won't live till 2059 to see what they do.
1782  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gun Ownership by State (2023 Statistics) on: November 21, 2023, 06:41:56 PM
I live in NJ USA.  We have the strictest gun laws. I own 2 guns via inheritance. They are shotguns which are the only bullets you can buy in NJ without a permit.

Do I really want the shotguns no but they have been in the family since the 1920's So I will keep them for now.

Do I think they make me safer? no not right now and they are very likely to never make me safer.
1783  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "Why haven't the earliest participants sold their Bitcoin, and some haven't even on: November 21, 2023, 04:58:56 PM
look at this block of 50 coins

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/blocks/btc/3

it is block 3 of all time

went to this address

1FvzCLoTPGANNjWoUo6jUGuAG3wg1w4YjR

worth over 1 million dollars and is untouched.

now 3,4,5,6,7,8 all untouched

but 9. lets look at this one.

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/blocks/btc/9

went to this address

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/BTC/12cbQLTFMXRnSzktFkuoG3eHoMeFtpTu3S

now this address has a block of 50 coins plus 145 other coins put into it.

total of 195 in and 177 sent with 18 hanging out.

So if this was and is one satoshi's addresses on this one alone has plenty of action and is old as fuck.
1784  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Fair and unbiased coins have a bias to land on the same side they started on: November 21, 2023, 04:44:17 PM
Coin toss has nothing to do with casino's house edge and odds, because they are using computer entropy to generate the random numbers that in turn determine the results.
I know, but they mention that comparison for the readers to understand how big of an advantage such a side-biased coin toss gives you (on average) compared to some well-known casino games like blackjack and roulette. It didn't have to be in the report. I think saying that you could potentially profit $19 on average after 100 coin tosses if you know the starting position of each coin before it's tossed is enough.


But did they be sure to make the coin spin and that it must go upwards over the head of the tosser.

I can favor a half dollar or a silver dollar if I flip it to a soft surface such as grass. And I start it on heads or tails I can bias the toss by doing a gentle lower toss.

say my hand releases at waist high and it arcs up to chest high and fall to grass with a slower spin.

Much like tossing a dart at a bulls eye  you can do some control over the coins.

But If you have to make the coin toss go over your head and spin rapidly hitting a hard surface like a maple wood floor control is far more difficult.

The bias is very likely subconsciously done by the tosser.

If you tested this with blindfolding I wonder if it changes.
1785  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Argentina Be The Next El Salvador To Accept Bitcoin As Legal Tender? on: November 21, 2023, 04:35:54 PM
picture source   picture source

Javier Milley has won Argentina's second round of presidential elections. In Argentina's second round of presidential elections, Miley's opponent was left-wing candidate Sergio Massa.

Almost 90 percent of the votes have been counted in Argentina's presidential election. According to the preliminary results, Millei got about 56 percent of the votes. Masa got about 44 percent of the vote.

In other words, Milley won by a margin of more than 10 percent of votes over Masa.

Milley was elected president of Argentina at a time when the country was in the midst of an economic crisis. Inflation is increasing in the countryArgentina's annual inflation has exceeded 140 percent.
Milley sees Bitcoin as a transformative solution to improve her standard of living in Argentina. He envisions it as a way to return control of money to the private sector. Milley sees the decentralized nature of Bitcoin as the right way out of the centralized control exercised by Argentina's traditional financial institutions, including the central bank. So far, however, Milley has not explicitly proposed making Bitcoin legal tender in Argentina. If Milley proposes and implements it, Argentina will be the second country to use bitcoin as legal tender. As before, El Salvadar became the first country to use Bitcoin as legal tender in 2021.



My wife has a lot of family in Argentina having a BTC favoring president is good. I do have 2 good friends that lived in NYC the moved back home to Argentina.

Maybe a road trip is in order for me. Argentina has been an interesting country for decades maybe a right wing style President that pushes BTC would be good for them.
1786  Other / Meta / Re: Request for the merit source for the Polish board on: November 21, 2023, 04:28:08 PM
How many smerits per month would get you guys going? 50, 100? I haven't seen any bias, or any signs of abuse from OP, it seems they are respectful and trustworthy, besides I don't think they need a lot. And if they don't have an active source, OP could be a good candidate.

Poland has been a country with talented people, who knows who can emerge from those unmerited newbies?

To be fair, I think we should be good for quite a while with all the merits we got even from this topic alone (again, massive thanks to all the senders). As per Rikafip's latest update, we jumped from being the worst (with 0.04 merit per post) to a number 3 (with 1.0 merit per post):


The current problem we have is with low activity, as there are only few active posters. Hopefully things will pick up when Bitcoin starts pumping.

We still don't have a merit source, but that's on us. We had a discussion, everyone agrees we should have one, but no one wants to volunteer for the job  Undecided Oh well.

Here is 50 more.

I am trying to lower my unspent merits from 1400 to 400. I am at 800 since I have been doing more gives.

I can't speak and read but one language so while I would love to read and help directly I have to do it with a proxy such as your self.
1787  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 21, 2023, 01:35:43 PM
For those not yet aware of the recent OpenAI / Sam Altman saga, here's a nice summary:

The OpenAI Saga - Everything Changed AGAIN!

I wonder what's going to happen to OpenAI / ChatGPT after all this mess...

It will only be used for good.


(kidding)
1788  Economy / Economics / Re: People keep talking how weak dollar and how bad usa economy getting on: November 21, 2023, 02:56:45 AM
In fact, what we observe with the current situation, the unemployment index, employment, output, ... refers to the general context of the economy is very difficult, the position of the United States over the years. Recently, it has been struggling with its strong rise in the mid-terms. From the time of the epidemic, to other notable international issues, many large countries are wanting to separate from US control in the economic aspect. I do not expect the competitive scenario to lead to war settlements, but still hope that economic transformation and change will make the countries harmonious, no matter who's economic status, it would be great if they worked together to help people overcome difficulties.
There is no to devalue of dollar because USA economy is very strong. They are involved in every War and they sell their  weapons . That is why,their economy value can't fall. There are thousands of which are investing in dollars and now in International market it's position is very strong. In last month it's value fell 5 percent but now it's value
static and it's value will increase due to War of Israel and phalasteen. USA is companion of Israel and USA don't want peace in the earth .If peace is everywhere then who will buy the weapons of USA.Also USA economy is strong due to education public of America.

USA
France
UK
Russia
China

all make serious cash selling weapons.

Even Turkey was clearing out drones like made selling to Ukraine.
Lastly Iran has been dealing in weapons for a while.


So warmongering is a big industry and quite a few people are in on it.

When I was a young man I was naive enough to think the U.S.A. wanted to keep the peace the reality is many countries make good money selling weapons so peace is a very wishful idea.
1789  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 21, 2023, 12:55:45 AM
45k by Christmas

we can have a very merry Christmas .
1790  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am the creator of Bitcoin on: November 21, 2023, 12:01:51 AM
So quick? I was almost close to getting you a partner that’s ready to spend more than a billion dollars on your project.  Grin
And now that you’re Satoshi the amount just doubled. Hehehe.

Hello, dear members of Bitcointalk forum!

I am for a partner for an interesting cryptocurrency project. Details about this project can be provided only in private messages. If you are interested in cooperation, please write me in private messages and we will discuss the details of the project and possibilities of cooperation.

Thank you for your attention, and I look forward to your messages!



only 2 billion. shit I just got off the phone with musk and bezos.  they want me to broker a 33.33 billion dollar deal with the op.

I told them not only will I broker the deal I am pledging my part ownership of the Brooklyn Bridge to have a 1% share.
1791  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 20, 2023, 08:17:15 PM
When 38

before 39
1792  Economy / Reputation / Re: Is 1miau fit for DT? on: November 20, 2023, 05:19:29 PM
As for the "conflict" that started the whole thing, I'm quite surprised that you both went that far. A completely useless debate where both sides claim that their media sources of information are more honest than the other. That's the first thing I saw after a quick look at the discussion you mentioned.
I think this sums it up nicely. I don't feel like reading all the details, but from what I've seen, none of this should have been a reason to create drama about exclusions and removing positive feedback. So you disagree. It happens. That's okay.
This has potential to turn into a year-long-feud. Don't go there, get a beer together and move on.

Well said.

1miau and mikeywith, your argument is going to stop killing the innocent children and women in Gaza, the constant conflict in the Middle East, Russia invading Ukraine, failure of US to bring peace in the world? Any of your argument is not going to stop the propaganda spreading by the main stream media to sell their news.

Shake the hands and don't speak politics. None of us cares about anyone else in the world, we only think for ourselves, we are limited and programmed to justify everything in our own favor and we don't speak a word unless it brings at least some benefits to us.

This is a voice of reason. (royse777)

Most info we see is shaded lies designed to tear us apart. So that the puppet masters can get their way.

My business partner Loves Donald Trump and hates Joe Biden anyone that gets in that box of beliefs has fallen victim to brainwashing.
If my business partner loved Joe Biden and hated Donald Trump they have fallen victim to brainwashing.

Same goes Israel and Gaza the conflict is designed to sell weapons and keep the military industrial complex alive and well.

mikeywith has been a level head good guy with me.
I don't know 1miau very well.
I will tell them both
To fight with passion for either side means you are both feeding the military - industrial complex. And rich fucks are making money off your passion.

I watched Vietnam
I watched lots of conflicts.
1967 six day war.
Iranian Hostage conflict
Desert Storm
World Trade Center. in which I lost a fire fighter cousin and my wife was working blocks from the WTC when the planes hit.
Afghanistan
Ukraine vs Russia
Gaza vs Israel


and in all the cases above weapons builders made money.


All of you watch this movie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_War

and understand if you make a stand and take a side you feed into the war monster.


Believe me it is not easy to resist.

I have a good Russian friend
My therapist is Ukraine descent with relatives still there.

I know these 2 for close to 20 and 30 years.

Both think their former countries are correct.

Both are well educated and intelligent.

I can tell you they are falling victims to war-monger puppet masters.

I told both of them that and intellectually they get it but emotions run deep and they both struggle.

Which is how I sometimes feel about the World Trade Center. I want to hurt and kill over it. I don't as I realize 66 years down maybe 10-30 years left so I am not feeding into the war machine anymore.

I am mining for BTC + LTC + DOGE instead  Grin
1793  Other / Meta / Re: How does total time logged in count? on: November 20, 2023, 04:48:41 PM
LoyceBot has only 15 days "time logged in", which should be a lot more based on your description.
I expected it to be longer based on HTTP requests. Perhaps since you have been added to the white list, the time has decreased significantly.
I noticed that time increases dramatically when I open several pages one after another.
In general, no one seems to care about these numbers, otherwise some would try to increase them.

Yeah I guess I could open my account in Chrome Safari Edge Firefox and tack on time like mad. But I don't.


I usually am logged in on three devices an iPad and 2 Mac minis. But they normally would all be the same browser.  Being doing it that way for a long time.
1794  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time to roll-back Ordinals? on: November 20, 2023, 03:39:13 PM
I'm talking about how the network is currently designed, and it's robust.

not as rubust as you think it is.. there is actually a tier system of node types and abilities.. its not as peer-to-peer equal as you have been told
your mentor pretends that pruned nodes are "full" nodes, that 'backward compatible' stripped nodes are "full".. they are not. they offer less peer services and do less functions than an actual full node does

learn the differences of what effects things have on the network when/if too many nodes 'prune'."strip",'bypass' EG use 2015 'backward' software thats stripped blockdata to then not IBD to full nodes, and bypasses validity checks.. or use 2019 that bypasses taproot validity checks.
 
with 99.99% of nodes reliant on the code of core(multigenerational but still core based), there is a central point of failure effect aswell. bitcoin no longers stands by the solution of byzantines generals problem.

years ago people wrote different nodes that knew the rules but checked them different ways in different code languages (coding is great at doing that) but things have got too cludgy and just become the same copy/paste line for line bug included bypass stuff as cores own node release..

bitcoin can be more robust than it currently is.

Yeah the network could be strengthened.  One way is to recognize the main purpose is not sending 0.00009999 btc or less in a send.

As the main chain should not allow small sends.


0.0001 is $3.75 value its small enough.

and 0.00001 is minimum fee that is  $0.375

Also 8mb blocks.

These three changes along with no node pruning allowed would work.

4tb ssd are cheap they can handle a larger chain.

Full sized nodes are a must.

Also certified a ssd with linux os and first 12 years of the chain could be sold by a few companies.
1795  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 20, 2023, 03:27:32 PM
My haiku Sunday alarm didn’t go off :-) All is well in the grey!

Up waiting to do
Contracts interfering with it
Be calm be resolute

better late then never.



Oh my ladder kicked in and I sold 1% of my BTC
1796  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2023 Diff thread now opened. on: November 20, 2023, 02:02:31 PM
Network is above 600 EH/s, next year, who knows...

Well if it happens we would need an ATH price to keep mining on.

once the ½ ing kicks in 37k is like 18.5k add high fees that take longer to go. and it would be like you are mining at 20k

are are at 450 so 600 is a 33% increase.

Should be interesting.
1797  Economy / Economics / Re: ~85% of money doesn't exist on: November 20, 2023, 05:35:41 AM
I was looking at some statistics about FIAT money, taking the European Union's Euro as an example.

When comparing physical money, i.e., banknotes and coins, bank deposits, a stark difference can be noticed.

physical Euro money:
~1.5 Trillion
Source: https://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/banknotes/html/index.en.html

All while the Euros in bank accounts peaked at a total of 11.7 trillion, now 10.5 trillion
Source: https://data.ecb.europa.eu/data/datasets/BSI/BSI.M.U2.Y.V.M10.X.1.U2.2300.Z01.E

What does this mean? There's undeniable proof that central banks know with confidence that most of the money in existence isn't destined for usage by real flesh and bone humans.
It's printed specifically to be used by governments, banks and mega corporations, that will never need to withdraw it from an ATM like a real person would.
Central banks don't even have to "print" money anymore if they want to inflate the monetary supply. They can just add more digits to a bank account.
Of course, increasing the monetary supply results in us, individual people, having to face higher prices which means our money is worth less.

Many of bitcoin's detractors will often say that it's held by too few people. Well, look at "actual money" then. 85% of it is completely unaccounted for.
Keep this in mind next time someone says anything about bitcoin.

Well I guess that is one way to look at it. It is an interesting way to look at it. Lots of times banks ran out of cash so at worst you are part right.
1798  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: how can i change the fees from a signed and sent transaction ? on: November 20, 2023, 05:33:33 AM
hello everyone, i hope all of you are doing good,

so actually what i'am asking is that if it's possible to manually change the fees of a transaction that already has been sent to mempool ?

imagine i sent transfer with x fees and the actual fees are x+10, so i want to add that 10 to my fees tx, how can i do this ? and is it possible ?

thank you all Smiley

if you show the tx we can figure if it is rbf possible.

also we can see if it will work in viabtc.com tool section
1799  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2023 Diff thread now opened. on: November 20, 2023, 03:05:44 AM
Well rewards dropped.

last ten blocks are down a lot.

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/blocks

we were ripping 2-3 btc in fees

now .7-1.5 still high
1800  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 20, 2023, 03:04:42 AM
a new ATH that's going to be higher then the previous ATH.



...

 Roll Eyes

Nice catch quite funny.
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