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2081  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2023, 07:28:14 PM
although I listed some for sale at $39,876.50

i listed some for sale too, but at ~$120k usd

Yeah I ladder up a bit .

39k
49k
75k

85k
95k
105k

115k
125k
135k
2082  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2023, 07:11:10 PM
I voted in the new poll it asked for closing price on Veterans Day Nov 11.

I picked 40k+

although I listed some for sale at $39,876.50
2083  Other / Meta / Re: People commenting on the first page without having read the previous posts. on: November 09, 2023, 07:05:59 PM
This is the second time in a short time that I've seen someone comment on a thread on the first page without having read the previous comments. Does this happen a lot?

I think it's normal that if you comment on page 7 of a thread you're interested in, you should read at least the first page and the page you're going to comment on, or pages 1-2 and 6-7, because in general, when a thread gets longer nobody reads all the pages, especially if you're commenting for the first time.

This also happens in other forums, and it is something we have commented on in our local board. Here the payment for signature campaigns may have an influence, but I visit other forums and if I comment on a thread for the first time on page 23, there's no way I've read the previous 23 pages.

But not reading the first page, especially if the thread is only one page long is a cardinal sin.

I'm about to send a PM to the manager so he doesn't pay him for that post.

What do you think about this?

I read this post and have read no more of the thread.

Man philipma1957, of course you don't need more to answer. I expected no less from you, that you understood. The problem here is not the threads where you are asked about your experience of something, such as this thread or others like What was your first experience with gambling? How and when did you get to know bitcoin?

The problem is that I was referring to another thread that is not of this style.  You can see my answer to this thread to see if you understand it better:

Do you know about the first public servant paid in bitcoin ?

The thread is not about one's subjective opinion or experience, it is about objective fact.

And to top it all off in this thread, my one, there is a guy who has protested without having understood anything about the my OP, as I said before.

This is the issue of the internet and blogging. Me I have time and I can spend 2-3-4 hours a day on this site. Many people don't have time and many don't have pc or internet access. Of course some are just trying to earn coin fast and easy.

Back in 1997 to 2005 time frames I only had internet access at my public library.  Plus I got bumped off the machine after 30 minutes.  Then from 2005 to 2008 I had dial up . So my 'modern' fast internet access started in 2009. I also got a relatively decent Mac mini the 2009 models had i5 2500 style mobile cpu and I put in a 32gb ssd. My Mac mini was the third fastest rating in the two or three sites that had 3 or 4 thousand speed rating on Mac minis.

So when you see a guy that looks rushed and did 1 post just to squeeze some coin from a signature do you know if he or she has a shitty pc/laptop on a limited internet link or is it an a-hole doing 2 or 3 or 4 accounts to score coin.

  I used to really dislike signature campaign but when you consider that 2-3 billion poor people in 'third' world countries get a chance to make some coin and maybe drag their family up a notch from stone cold poverty I have learned to appreciate the signature campaigns.
  Management could do a lot about multiple accounts grabbing 2 or 3 signatures. But trying to say someone needs to read every post before they post is a hard ask.
  
If a thread is 3 pages or less I may read the whole thread and post. When threads get over 10 pages I may read the op's first post and answer like I did here. Depends on how the post was worded. Sometimes I do fuck up and under read or miss that I am repeating an idea.

I guess management could look for multi accounts from 1 ip. that would cut down a ton of shit posting. but hell maybe they do that.



as I wrote the long post above this was posted and is a really good point.

One of the reasons that not everyone mentioned is that some people have a long ignore list, and this list may contain accounts that make high-quality posts.
you may find that even  those accounts that are difficult to post spam will repeat above replies simply because they are on their ignore list.
2084  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Question about Bitcoin network spammer on: November 09, 2023, 06:20:54 PM
The NFT market is very quiet nowadays, and this seems to be the next thing. Until it blows up, after which someone will create another money maker for themselves.

You think NFTs will gain popularity again? Haven't people already realised what it is about?

Its sad that you accept BTC as a new form of wealth but that you can't accept the value of a new art form

Obviously you have yet to understand their value.

you likely think the art below is worthless.

I thought is was garbage as a kid back in the 60's I was very fucking wrong.

Here you are with the opportunity to support a new form of art work and you simply think it is worth less.

Learn from me as I could have purchased  the item below for under $500 when I was young and instead much like you and NFT's  I thought it  was garbage.

2085  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Lowest Bitcoin mining cost on: November 09, 2023, 05:20:52 PM
The average cost to mine Bitcoin was negative ($6,141) in the third quarter, as compared to $8,227 per Bitcoin for the same three-month period in 2022.
Earned $49.6 million in power curtailment credits during the quarter, as compared to $13.1 million in power curtailment credits earned for the same three-month period in 2022.

https://www.riotplatforms.com/riot-platforms-reports-third-quarter-2023-financial-results-current-operational-and-financial-highlights/

I'm shocked by this data. For a Russian apartment miner with an electricity price of 2 cents and a complete absence of additional expenses and taxes, the cost of bitcoin mining will be more expensive. What's the magic here?

they act as a statewide resistor for excess power on Texas power grid.

but they shut off in the summer months and get a bonus for the power company.

ie

Jan-March they burn the states extra power
April-June they burn the states excess power
July-Sept  they shut down farms to let the grid run air conditioners in peoples homes.
Oct-Dec they burn the states excess power

Note Texas is a large state with its own  power grid.

They have solar
They have windmills
They have flare gas generators

so the state has excess power 9 months a year.

and they sell it to riot

but riot gets money to turn gear off in the 3 hot months
2086  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Raspi 4 for Bitcoin Node: Still Compatible? on: November 09, 2023, 05:18:29 PM
never had an intel nuc. always seemed a bit pricy.

Which was why I didn't include them. The NUC both intel branded and other makes always tended to be a lot more money then an equivalent mini PC.
This even follows down to the used market.
Not sure why, it just is one of those things, at least around here.

-Dave

yeah.  I have found i5 6500t and 16gb with a 2tb ssd is more than enough and pretty cheap.

I tend to forget that my 14 cent at home and 4.7 cent mining power is way cheaper than most people.

so burning 21 kwatts a month for this pc.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/115963393472?

is not a factor for me.

but at 40 or 50 cents a kwatt it would be a factor.
2087  Other / Meta / Re: People commenting on the first page without having read the previous posts. on: November 09, 2023, 05:00:05 PM
This is the second time in a short time that I've seen someone comment on a thread on the first page without having read the previous comments. Does this happen a lot?

I think it's normal that if you comment on page 7 of a thread you're interested in, you should read at least the first page and the page you're going to comment on, or pages 1-2 and 6-7, because in general, when a thread gets longer nobody reads all the pages, especially if you're commenting for the first time.

This also happens in other forums, and it is something we have commented on in our local board. Here the payment for signature campaigns may have an influence, but I visit other forums and if I comment on a thread for the first time on page 23, there's no way I've read the previous 23 pages.

But not reading the first page, especially if the thread is only one page long is a cardinal sin.

I'm about to send a PM to the manager so he doesn't pay him for that post.

What do you think about this?

I read this post and have read no more of the thread.

I find the first post meaning your idea extremely over controlling. I do not need to read anyone else's post or comments even if they say what I just said.

Why is that? because you said "What do you think about this?"





Edit

I now spent the time to read the entire thread. I still am sure my reply to your particular first post made with out reading any more of the thread is correct.

No one said what I did in the other posts. Plus the fact is you still Asked : "What do you think about this?"

Sometimes when asking a question or making a post no-one has to read anything else if the  first post was written a certain way.


So you managed to ask a question that specifically allows anyone to only read the first post and not care about anyone else's comment.

My question for you would be: are you a brilliant writer and worded that first thread post looking to see if someone picks up on the innately clever phrase you put in?

  To all please note I am asking the op the question as I kind of want to know if he is a brilliant writer of very cleverly hidden sarcasm.

Also note I wrote a really long edit because I am deliberately  trying to show I edited the post after reading the other posts.

My answer to the op is the idea is terrible as your own first post demonstrated quite clearly that many first posts in a thread are all you need to read to be able to give a

good answer no matter if it is close to someone else's answer.
2088  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Raspi 4 for Bitcoin Node: Still Compatible? on: November 09, 2023, 04:09:07 PM
The 8 inch by 8 inch by 1.5 inch tinys use under 30 watts daily if they have an intel i5 6500t cpu.

that is 1 kwatt a month. who cares about power costs at that level
30W is 21 kWh/month, or 263 kWh/year. That's €100 per year (at €0.38/kWh). Assuming I create a setup for 5 years, that's €500. If a Raspi could bring it down to 6W including disk, that saves €400.

Also, with laptops if you do have to change the fan out it is *usually* more of a project then a desktop.
I'm on my third fan Tongue The first one broke, the second fan had less blades than the original and didn't work as well. Most of the time it's just 8-12 screws.

Quote
On the flip side if the AC adapter dies on a laptop it's not a big deal vs. taking apart a PC to and getting a new power supply.
Don't get me started on adapters....... I've seen original adapters blow up the mainboard (twice). Most of the time the cable breaks internally, but that doesn't happen if you use it as a server.

my bad 30 x 30 x 24 is 21600 watts a month or 21.6 kwatts

I pay 14 cents in house so it is 3 bucks a month

I pay under five cents in the mine so it is 63 cents a month.

so if a rasp pi knocks 36 dollars a year down to 6 dollars the savings is 30 usd a year.

and if its 8 a year at the mine I drop to 1.50 and save 6.50 a year.

I don’t really mind that extra money to run a node

If you pay 50 cents a kwatt its  10 bucks a month or 120 a year vs 100 a year which does add up



2089  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Can i use antminer control boards exchangeably? on: November 09, 2023, 03:58:40 PM
I have already bought a BB control board for s19 will it work for my miner?

well according to this link no

https://altairtech.io/product/bitmain-antminer-s19j-control-board/


but this company does have a rep here on the forum. and they will answer the question you are asking on their website.

I have interchanged some s19 controllers and I can tell you they don’t always work when they say they will.

and sometimes they work when they say they won’t.
2090  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Can i use antminer control boards exchangeably? on: November 09, 2023, 03:26:48 PM
The antminer is s19 90th model and the psu is APW121417 version B

https://altairtech.io/product/bitmain-antminer-s19-s19-pro-t19-control-board/

I think the above is good.

but wait for others to check in on this pick of mine.
2091  Economy / Speculation / Re: Has anybody expected this? on: November 09, 2023, 03:20:34 PM
It's not funny, but it's amazing.
The Bitcoin market rallied again by breaking through the $36k resistance and was able to hit $37k++.
If Bitcoin manages to survive in that price area, of course, we will see the next highest price in the $38k-39k++ price area which is the top of the Bullish Resis.

It's funny in the sense that the price has been roaming around $35k for some days now, that was the same thing that happened in October, I think it was $27k before it went up to $30k. I have that feeling that we could be seeing $38k anytime soon because in the past few hours the movement has been positively going higher than we expected. With these things happening $38-39k won't take us time to experience before hitting $40k, and I think it will get to $36k anymore.


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$40k could be the closest target and could be achieved as long as there is no FUD that appears suddenly.
I am optimistic that Bitcoin can break the $40k price if the trend continues to be good like this and some good news continues to appear.

I agree with you on the price getting to $40k if there's no FUD but we shouldn't be too hopeful of the price to be too quick to hit $40k very soon, it is either it gets to $39k and back to $38k for some days before hitting $40k and above.

well we topped 38k about a half hour ago.

so 40k seems doable very soon.
2092  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Can i use antminer control boards exchangeably? on: November 09, 2023, 03:10:49 PM
My bitmain antminer came with an amlogic control board can i change it with BB control board? Because the aml doesnt have an sd card reader? Or can i just flash the amlogic using a micro flash drive( i have a flash drive that has a micro outlet that i can be plugged in the amlogic control board ) or can i swap it with a BB board ? Thank you so much for the help..

maybe 🤔.

First off what is the models name.

S19
s19 pro
s19 a
s19 k
s19 j
s19 xp

next the exact model name for your gears psu
2093  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: New pow coin support Ethash mining listing exchange soon on: November 09, 2023, 03:07:25 PM
Mainnet Info
Network Name: NYC mainnet

New RPC URL: https://mainnet-rpc.nycoin.org

Chain ID: 20831

Currency Symbol: NYC

Block Explorer URL(Optional): https://nycoin.org/

Pool: stratum+tcp://pool.nycoin.org:8008
Support :
Navidia  mining tool. T-rex Ethash
Amd mining tool  Teamredminer Ethash
Mainnet
ChainID: 20831
RPC: https://mainnet-rpc.nycoin.org
Explorer: https://nycoin.org
Status: https://status.nycoin.org
Docs: https://docs.nycoin.org/
Pool: https://pool.nycoin.org/

Testnet
ChainID: 25578
RPC: https://testnet-rpc.nycoin.org
Explorer: https://testnet-explorer.nycoin.org
Faucet: https://faucet.nycoin.org
Listing exchange soon


This belongs in alt coins
2094  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2023, 02:49:34 PM

P.s. By the way, Biodom just because you and OgNasty seem to agree on some kind of system that is the opposite of yours truly (or maybe you don't agree on a system, but you rather agree that you don't like my system, even though you don't really seem to appreciate the over-allocation angle of my system), that does not necessarily mean that you got it all figured out, but it may mean that you found something that is comfortable for you, including in terms of your making sure that you don't invest too much into BTC (aka whimpy), just in case dee cornz might not perform as well as some of your other traditional asset diversions.

some peeps are on a minimize the odds of loss mode vs maximize the amount of profit mode

Bitcoin has been good to me...

Me too.



and me

me too. yeah could been a few million,

 but still a goodly amount.
2095  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Raspi 4 for Bitcoin Node: Still Compatible? on: November 09, 2023, 02:37:11 PM
I use RPi and some old laptops and some old PCs to run my nodes. All have their good side and bad side.

RPi: Good: Small, cheap, a lot of support, very low power use. Bad: Can be slow for IBD, and even as cheap as they are, you can get used laptops / PCs for free.

Laptop (assuming used): Good: Built in screen, lower power then a desktop, can be had for very little. Bad: For the most part NOT designed for 24/7/365 operations, and you have no idea how the previous owner(s) treated it. Could have been dropped, left in a hot car cooking over the summer or freezing in the winter. And so on.

Desktop: Good: Cheap (or free) and everywhere. Going to faster then the laptop / RPi for the most part. Bad: Pulls the most power, although not as bad as a laptop you don't know how the previous owner(s) treated it, would need a screen to do a lot of the initial setup.

There is no one size fits all. Something like this that I am selling still works well ( I have a couple still running) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5471664
BUT, you have to then hunt down a m.2 sata and deal with the fan issue........

-Dave

I miss the Mini-PCs in your list. I know, technically you could count them under desktops.

Ofc you shouldn't ignore the purchase of the device when considering the following points, but a NUC, for example, has lower power consumption than laptops or classic desktop PCs.
They also score with their compact shape and take up significantly less space. Some Mini PCs also offer a low noise level due to their passive cooling and are therefore almost inaudible.  Smiley

Compared to the Raspberry Pi it simply offers more powerful hardware and is not dependent on ARM architectures.

I would say that they are perfect for running a full node.




never had an intel nuc. always seemed a bit pricy.
2096  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Raspi 4 for Bitcoin Node: Still Compatible? on: November 09, 2023, 02:23:55 PM
I have done rasp pi
I have done mac mini
I have done hp lenovo dell tinys
I have done laptops

The 8 inch by 8 inch by 1.5 inch tinys use under 30 watts daily if they have an intel i5 6500t cpu.

that is 1 kwatt a month. who cares about power costs at that level

to me they are my favorite for nodes

you can attach it and your normal pc to a monitor that have two inputs.

This asus laptop is the first unit I used for a node. so far it is stable.

I use two other laptops for my remote access to the mines two rooms in clifton.

so far so good. over 1 year up 🆙 time in very hot rooms. running 24/7/365
2097  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2023, 02:16:16 PM
$38000 in one hour confirmed

Could be  Cheesy

its knocking at 38k

when chopper
when reaper
2098  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2023, 02:05:29 PM
Sorry to impede your bullish rhetoric, I rather see a healthy $5000 dump for RSI to reset so it can break $40k ore even $50k before christmas.

Wrong.

42k nov 30 - dec 1
48k dec 31 - jan 1

 profit taking in Jan 2024 drop to 40k

we then rally up to and including the ½ ing. maybe 70 k right before it.

2099  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Raspi 4 for Bitcoin Node: Still Compatible? on: November 09, 2023, 01:51:31 PM
I yell and scream and complain about anyone using a rasp pi to run a node.

I recently did a thread here about getting an older gen3 i7 laptop by asus. only 8 gb ram in it. and a 500gb spinner. the cost was zero.

I think this is about the only advantage, which is the lower consumption of electricity to run the nodes on the Pi. Plus is much more discreet because it requires much less space than any personal computer.

btw. Speaking of this, based on personal experience, what is the recommended minimum hardware CPU/RAM? Does it make sense to start a node on a laptop with 1 core?


no.

An i5 6500t hp or dell or lenovo
an i5 4500t all at this level in the tiny are good.

an i7 3700t although my asus lap top an i7 3rd gen uses linux mint 8gb and a 2tb crucial sata ssd.

If you used the asus for your node and your bitcointalk laptop along with lite browsing like amazon and ebay shopping you would be happy. that is an 11 year or 10 year old laptop.

no gaming. I even think you could youtube,netflix and run the node.

I should did up my thread and run some netflix while it does the node.

using linux really helps it. and if I want I can add ram to it and go to 16gb vs 8gb

let me find the asus I got for free on ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/266476012232?

To be clear my buddy has a business and they got rid of old laptops grabbed new ones to upgrade.

So I got the model above for free.

My model has all parts working I pulled the windows ten 500gb spinner put in the 2tb sata ssd.
I loaded linux mint. I can up grade to 16gb but at this moment I do not need it.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468600.0

my thread on the laptop with linux and 2tb ssd.
2100  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2023 end game sentiment check on: November 09, 2023, 01:42:44 PM
32k isn't that important anymore. The main thing is that the trend, which was the whole 2023, does not change and we do not see the bottom again. If this does not happen, it does not matter how strong the corrections will be. We can calmly wait for halving and buy more coins if possible.
The time to accumulate coins for a good price is coming to an end, and people need to finally commit to a decision, they either buy now and enjoy the profits such a decision will bring them or they stay away from the market until the bull run ends, as buying during the bull run is a move that is too risky, since we will never know when the bull market will end and at what level, so by taking a position early and holding our coins we are basically guaranteeing we will obtain some nice profits once the bull market comes.
There are always two things in the market. They are fear and greed. When the price falls or is at the bottom for a long time, people are afraid to buy. When the price goes up, people get greedy. As we know, greed has never led to good profits. So even if you buy now, there is a risk that the price will fall again.


If you dont buy now you are fearful.

Simply do a weekly dca for the next few years.

I did a dca from nov 2022 until nov 2023.

spoke about it frequent enough.

Buying a huge amount right now is risky but a dca is fine.

being a timid person on the sidelines does not work.
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